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  • Once, people thought God had created the world and every living thing,

  • each with a purpose in an ordered universe over which our creator presided,

  • rewarding good deeds and punishing sin.

  • Charles Darwin's theory of evolution by natural selection

  • blew a hole in this comfortable explanation of life

  • and faced us with a blindingly obvious yet disturbing truth -

  • humans don't have dominion over animals.

  • We are animals.

  • We are the fifth ape.

  • But even Darwin hesitated to say this out loud.

  • It throws into question our trust in our fellow human beings.

  • Are our morals and manners just a veneer?

  • Since a struggle for existence drives evolution,

  • why don't we humans run an entirely dog-eat-dog world?

  • How about genocide and ethnic cleansing?

  • Are they some kind of survival strategy?

  • In this programme, I want to confront

  • the issue that Darwin skirted around in The Origin Of Species,

  • the evolution of human beings.

  • I want to ask what it means for us to be evolved.

  • The question is more urgent than ever.

  • Increasingly, religious people and others attack Darwinism for, in their view,

  • excusing selfishness and barbarism.

  • Throughout my career, I've wrestled with how to reconcile my liberal values

  • with what Darwin revealed to be the pitiless war of nature.

  • So now I'm going to take you into the Darwinian heart of darkness

  • and look for answers...

  • and for hope.

  • Natural selection is the driving force of our evolution,

  • but that doesn't mean that society ought to be run on Darwinian lines.

  • As a scientist, I'm thrilled by natural selection,

  • but as a human being, I abhor it as a principle for organising society.

  • Evolution by natural selection is a very simple idea.

  • Over thousands of generations, in a struggle for existence,

  • successful variations have survived to reproduce,

  • the process that gradually carves life into more and more specialised forms.

  • Life forms that include the apes -

  • gibbons, orang-utans, gorillas, chimps...and us.

  • Here, at London Zoo, back in the 1830s,

  • the arrival of the first apes outraged polite society.

  • Queen Victoria, for one, found them painfully and disagreeably human.

  • But another visitor was spellbound.

  • The young Charles Darwin saw the unmistakable truth

  • staring back at him from the other side of the cage.

  • The uncanny familiarity of ape hands

  • and the humanity we seem to glimpse in their eyes

  • was, for Darwin, further evidence to support the idea of evolution,

  • that all life was related.

  • The African apes, he realised, were our closest evolutionary cousins.

  • East Africa - my birthplace and, rather more importantly,

  • the birthplace of the human species itself.

  • Between five and six million years ago,

  • there lived in Africa an ape who had two children.

  • One of those children was destined to give rise to us,

  • the other was destined to give rise to the chimpanzees.

  • If I stood here and held my mother's hand,

  • and she held her mother's hand,

  • and she held her mother's hand, and so on,

  • back to the grand ancestor of all humans and all chimpanzees,

  • how far would the line stretch?

  • The answer is about 300 miles.

  • Over that surprisingly short distance,

  • the fossil record shows evidence of extraordinary changes.

  • The palaeontologist Richard Leakey and his family

  • have uncovered the hard evidence in Kenya's Rift Valley,

  • evidence that charts the evolution of our ancient human ancestors.

  • About 1.9 million years ago,

  • you have skulls like this turning up.

  • This is what they were calling Homo habilis.

  • Largish brains, still got a flat, big face,

  • and probably ancestral to Homo erectus, which turns up in Africa

  • at about 1.8 million years.

  • This, then, is the ancestor to Homo sapiens.

  • This persists for almost a million years, this condition,

  • and then it gives way to something with an even larger brain -

  • things that are much more like ourselves.

  • These whopping great vaults.

  • The brain has really expanded.

  • It's much more like a modern human brain in terms of size

  • and in terms of shape,

  • and by the time you get to this,

  • all of these others have disappeared from the fossil record.

  • So all the major steps in the human story are, in fact, told in Africa.

  • I often meet people who say to me, "Nobody's going to tell me I'm an ape."

  • Is there a kind of visceral revulsion? Do you meet that, as well?

  • Yes, I do, but it seems to be so misplaced

  • because, as you know, we are the fifth ape.

  • We never separated from the apes, we just do things differently.

  • I've often found it fun to go to an ape exhibit in one of the big zoos

  • and you can watch people looking at a group of chimpanzees,

  • and what is very clear, if you watch their facial expression,

  • you can see that they're not so sure that that ape's like them

  • but they can look around and say, "There's a similarity

  • "between the person on the other side of the cage."

  • We're closer to chimps, African chimps,

  • than a horse is to an ass.

  • Horses and asses put together produce offspring.

  • "Wow!" says everybody. "Are you...?"

  • "Yeah, I am."

  • It's an unsettling thought.

  • In evolutionary terms, we're so closely related to chimps

  • that it's not ridiculous to ask

  • whether we might still be able to breed with them.

  • We're the human animal,

  • upright, big-brained ape cousins who evolved to out-think the competition.

  • As a biologist, I've wondered at the challenging implications of this,

  • what it tells us about human society now.

  • But over half the people on Earth

  • are so horrified by what Darwinism reveals about our origins,

  • they just refuse to believe it.

  • I'm an ape. Are you an ape?

  • No, I'm not, I'm a human being.

  • I'm on a journey exploring the dark side of Darwinism.

  • I want to confront what it means for us

  • to have evolved in nature's brutal struggle.

  • Why should the fifth ape love thy neighbour?

  • The thought of our animal origins can upset people.

  • Read The Origin Of Species, Darwin's masterpiece

  • that set out his theory of evolution,

  • and you will find only a handful of passing references to human origins.

  • That man was made in God's image,

  • having dominion over the animals,

  • defined what it meant to be human,

  • so discussing human evolution was just too risky.

  • Darwin shied away from it

  • and simply wrote near the end,

  • "Light will be thrown on the origin of man and his history."

  • But when the book came to be published in 1859,

  • the buzz was all about the extraordinary implications for mankind.

  • Were we just beasts in fancy dress?

  • Evolution become known as "the monkey theory".

  • The row has not gone away.

  • In Kenya, the cradle of mankind,

  • religious groups are trying to block the opening

  • of the National Museum's exhibit of human fossils.

  • The fossil record of human ancestry has a particular fascination.

  • To me, these are far more precious than the Crown Jewels.

  • This is the Turkana Boy.

  • Homo erectus, 1.5 million years old.

  • The most complete ancient human skeleton ever found.

  • It's one of the most precious relics in any museum

  • anywhere in the world.

  • It would be an enormous pity if there were any pressure

  • not to allow it to be seen.

  • CHOIR SINGS A PRAISE SONG

  • The ten-million-strong Evangelical movement in Kenya

  • has run a hide-the-bones campaign.

  • By coincidence, I was born right next door to the church

  • where the protest is being led by Bishop Bonifes Adoyo.

  • Bishop, how do you do? Very nice of you to agree to this meeting.

  • Same here to meet the great professor.

  • Let's go in, shall we?

  • I was born just over the road, there.

  • No, I'm told over the other side.

  • Well, we'll have to work that out.

  • Yeah, yeah.

  • 'It was clear that we weren't going to see eye-to-eye from the beginning.'

  • I'm an ape. Are you, Bishop?

  • I'm not. I definitely am not.

  • (LAUGHS)

  • I'm special.

  • Made in the image of God, in the creative mind of God,

  • creative as God is, who made me.

  • That's the difference between the ape and me.

  • Well, I'm an ape. I'm an African ape.

  • I'm very proud to be an African ape, and so should you be.

  • Don't you think the evidence should be displayed

  • for all to see and make up their own minds?

  • Sure.

  • You are against displaying it.

  • Everybody should make up their own mind.

  • No, I am not against the display,

  • I am against the attachment of the evolution theory to the display.

  • See, that's all we're talking about.

  • You'd be happy for them to be displayed but not the evolutionary messages?

  • They are complete human being skulls.

  • Well, not really.

  • They're very much smaller than ours and they've got very much less brain.

  • The three-million-year-old one had the same-sized brain as chimpanzees.

  • They were kind of chimpanzees on their hind legs,

  • so it was a first step towards becoming human.

  • The next step was then, in the Turkana Boy,

  • to have a bigger brain,

  • and the final step was to have an even bigger brain, like us.

  • If that's where we originated

  • and evolved into this stage,

  • why aren't those chimpanzees also evolving...into man?

  • Why aren't they extinct?

  • Because by the time they developed to this level, they should have been extinct.

  • No, that's not the way evolution works.

  • We're not descended from them.

  • We are cousins of them.

  • So we and they go back to a common ancestor.

  • There are the chimpanzees, there's us.

  • We go back to a common ancestor.

  • Now, that common ancestor was not a chimpanzee and it was not a human,

  • it was something else.

  • And it evolved towards being a chimpanzee and in a different direction,

  • it evolved towards being a human.

  • So chimpanzees have been evolving all that time,

  • and humans have been evolving all that time,

  • and they'll probably both go on evolving but we can't predict where that will go.

  • 'Our discussion now threw up an important point about evolution.'

  • So what is the goal of evolution? What is the ultimate goal?

  • Is it for us to have big heads?

  • There is no goal.

  • No goal?

  • It just happens.

  • That doesn't answer my question.

  • Where are we heading to?

  • I mean, up to where shall we say that this is the limit?

  • It doesn't have goals.

  • It's a misunderstanding to say evolution has goals. It never had. It just changes.

  • This is crucial. To understand evolution by natural selection,

  • you have to grasp that it is not a grand scheme with goals.

  • It's a harsh, unguided process

  • which simply favours those that are most successful

  • at passing on their genes.

  • It has no morality or purpose.

  • And we humans are just one of its products.

  • Darwin took man off his pedestal and made him an animal, like all others.

  • We evolved in the ruthless competition of nature.

  • So what does that mean for us and our society?

  • To begin to grapple with this problem,

  • we have to understand what nature is in all its brutal glory.

  • It looks like nature in harmony.

  • Actually, as Darwin realised,

  • there's a struggle out there.

  • All the players are working for their own benefit

  • and because they are surrounded by others working for their own benefit,

  • they tend to exploit each other.

  • In the shady forest,

  • all the plants are struggling to get to the light.

  • Big trees pay the price legitimately

  • by growing up to the sun.

  • But this strangler fig does a very strange and cruel thing.

  • It started life high up in the tree from a seed,

  • perhaps dropped by a fruit-eating monkey.

  • It then sent roots down towards the ground

  • in order to get nourishment from the ground.

  • And then these roots proliferate all around the original tree

  • and strangle it to death.

  • Eventually, the original tree will die

  • and the fig will be left standing on its own,

  • having usurped its position in the sun.

  • The bitter struggle for survival in nature

  • has been the dynamic force that has driven the evolution of life.

  • And this is where my own struggle with the consequences of Darwinism begins.

  • Attacks on Darwin have claimed that his goalless, soulless theory

  • has unleashed the worst of human nature.

  • If nature is ruthless competition,

  • and nature is where we evolved,

  • then is this the model for human society? Every man for himself?

  • Well, let's look at this.

  • There is one area of human affairs in which the dog-eat-dog mentality

  • seems to many entirely natural.

  • In business.

  • Certain elements of business

  • have always loved what they perceive as Darwin's message -

  • the strong must survive, the weak perish.

  • Here is apparent justification for unrestrained capitalism

  • and denying help to the poor.

  • Several of the great entrepreneurs of the early 20th century,

  • the so-called "robber barons" like the oil tycoon John D Rockefeller,

  • were unashamed social Darwinists.

  • They believed human progress would be delivered

  • by modelling business and society on nature,

  • on the unceasing struggle of the jungle.

  • NEWSREEL: 'Today, the giants of the oil industry

  • 'stand as monuments to Rockefeller, the architect of our business age.'

  • Social Darwinism is still with us.

  • In the 1990s the American energy company Enron

  • ran a kind of nasty Darwinian experiment,

  • lining up 15% of the least fit of their workforce to be fired each year.

  • It didn't end well.

  • Enron selected not necessarily the best

  • but the most ruthless individuals, who turned a blind eye to the widespread fraud

  • that brought the company down in scandal.

  • Ken Lay, chairman and chief executive officer, Enron.

  • CHEERING

  • I've come to a convention of entrepreneurs in London

  • to observe today's business animal up close.

  • My best friend's a money-broker in the City

  • and has more money than he knows what to do with...

  • One thing's confusing me, and that is why you're here.

  • Your presentation - I'll put my cards on the table.

  • I don't like the recruitment industry generally...

  • For a very long time, people have noticed

  • the similarities between economic systems and biological systems,

  • in particular, the notion of competition in both systems.

  • When businesses compete, we can think of them as designs,

  • so you might have a design for a bank, a way to run a bank,

  • and each of the banks along the high street

  • will have a slightly different way of running a bank, a different design,

  • and the evolutionary competition,

  • it's a competition for you walking down the high street

  • to determine which bank will serve you best, which design suits your needs best.

  • 'So are we looking at corporate apes fighting for supremacy

  • 'without compassion, teeth bared?

  • 'I wonder if it's more posturing than reality.'

  • Do you think there's a risk of overdoing the Darwinian analogy?

  • < Yes, very much so.

  • The press loves to play up company CEOs and entrepreneurs as these heroes,

  • and in many ways they are.

  • They work incredibly hard, make great sacrifices.

  • But the myth is that they were these great visionaries,

  • these people who could predict the future

  • and drive an organisation toward that future.

  • The reality is, economic systems, just like biological systems,

  • are hugely complex

  • and being able to predict what's gonna happen in the long term

  • is extraordinarily difficult, or even impossible.

  • And what some companies do is rather than try to outguess where the market's going,

  • they'll create some notion of variety within their company

  • and let the market choose -

  • let customers decide which products and services they like best.

  • These legendary moguls who... I mean, is it sort of luck

  • that they're the ones who've just... they just happen to get it right?

  • With hindsight, you could say that they got it right. But it's just hindsight.

  • Well, not to take away from the talent that these individuals may have,

  • but if you imagine a room full of people flipping coins,

  • if the room's big enough, one of them is going to get ten heads in a row.

  • Then if you ask that person, "What did you do?"

  • they'll say, "I'm an expert coin-flipper. I've got my wrists just right."

  • And we see the same thing in business.

  • CHATTER

  • So Darwinism in business seems to be little more than a metaphor, an analogy.

  • It certainly doesn't provide a straightforward natural law

  • for economic progress, as social Darwinists used to argue.

  • But can Darwinism be applied to other areas of human affairs?

  • What about taking back the reins of our own evolution?

  • Don't copy nature but control it.

  • Speed up the elimination process.

  • NEWSREEL: 'Once they have been born, defectives are happier and more useful

  • 'in these institutions than when at large, but it would have been better by far

  • 'if they had never been born.'

  • It's been tried before.

  • The eugenics movement of the early 20th century

  • aimed to stop the weak procreating

  • through compulsory sterilisation of the unfit.

  • Eugenics seeks to apply the known laws of heredity

  • so as to prevent the degeneration of the race, and improve its inborn qualities.

  • Here was a slippery slope down to a nightmare.

  • At its worst,

  • eugenics became a dark, tribal vision

  • ultimately used to justify ethnic genocide in Nazi Germany

  • with horrific echoes in Bosnia and Rwanda.

  • I feel strongly that the barbarism that was the culmination of eugenics in the 20th century was atrocious.

  • But it's important to say eugenics is not Darwinism.

  • Eugenics is not a version of natural selection.

  • Hitler, despite popular legend, was not a Darwinist.

  • Every farmer, horticulturalist or pigeon-fancier

  • knew how to breed for desired outcomes.

  • Eugenicists like Hitler borrowed from breeders.

  • What Darwin uniquely realised was that nature can play the role of breeder.

  • Darwin has been wrongly tainted.

  • I've always hated how Darwin is wheeled out

  • to justify cut-throat business competition,

  • racism and right-wing politics,

  • and throughout my career, I've grappled with the apparent paradox

  • of the way co-operation, being nice to each other,

  • even morality, could evolve from the mindless brutality of nature.

  • Charles Darwin argued in Origin Of Species that evolution of life on Earth

  • had been driven by a brutal struggle for existence.

  • Natural selection can seem bleak for many biologists.

  • Certainly, nature can be pitiless and cruel.

  • But I've been intrigued by what appear to be acts of kindness in nature -

  • warning cries, huddling for warmth and comfort,

  • and mutual grooming.

  • Animals like these are displaying what we call altruism.

  • They're giving something to another at a cost to themselves.

  • The question I've grappled with as a biologist is why.

  • The explanation must, at some point, involve the brain.

  • Altruism, like any other behaviour, must have evolved over time

  • as brains have evolved.

  • 'So now I want to talk to somebody who knows about our evolved psychology.'

  • Hello.

  • Hello. Nice to see you.

  • When we teach about evolution, we naturally tend to focus on anatomy

  • but you could equally well say that psychology, that our minds,

  • are evolved organs, or organ systems, couldn't you?

  • Well, yes. We've every reason to believe

  • that the mind is a product of the activity of the brain.

  • I happen to have one here.

  • It's clear that the brain is an organ.

  • It's got an evolutionary history.

  • All of the parts in the human brain you can find in the brain of a chimpanzee

  • and other mammals.

  • And we also know that the brain is not just a random neural network,

  • and we have reason to believe that a lot of the products of the brain -

  • our perception, our emotions, our language, our ways of thinking -

  • are strategies for negotiating a world -

  • surviving, bringing up children, finding mates,

  • negotiating relationships.

  • I suppose we can all understand why sexual lust

  • has a Darwinian survival value.

  • Are you now saying that the mechanisms for guilt, trust,

  • that those are a bit like lusts?

  • There's a lust to trust... or is that not a...?

  • Indeed!

  • And people have...no problem accepting Darwinian explanations

  • for emotions that are triggered by the physical world -

  • fear of heights and snakes and spiders

  • and the dark and deep water,

  • disgust at bodily secretions that might be carrying parasites,

  • or rotting meat and so on -

  • um...but often feel a little more surprised

  • and even resistant to the idea that some of our moral emotions

  • might have an evolutionary basis - like trust, sympathy or gratitude.

  • But I think that, as clear as it is that fear has an evolutionary basis,

  • I think our moral emotions can be analysed in the same way.

  • I think Stephen Pinker is right and we do have an evolved morality.

  • But I also understand why there is resistance to the idea.

  • Why would the genes for the parts of the brain

  • that involve giving at a cost to oneself

  • be inherited in nature's brutal struggle for existence?

  • Darwin defined this as sexual selection.

  • To explore this, I want to look at another case

  • where individual survival doesn't appear to be the priority.

  • A peacock's plumage is gorgeous

  • but it must get in the way of its own survival.

  • It's easily spotted by predators

  • and its huge weight must hinder a quick escape.

  • So why isn't the peacock's tail eliminated by natural selection?

  • Charles Darwin was puzzled.

  • "The sight of a feather in a peacock's tail whenever I gaze at it," he wrote,

  • "makes me sick."

  • But it was Darwin himself who hit upon the answer -

  • sex.

  • The peacock's tail is a burden to himself but a boon to the genes that built it.

  • Why? Because the tail wins sexual partners.

  • Something about the peahen's brain is attracted to bright feathers

  • and extravagant, maybe costly, advertisement.

  • Peacock evolution has been shaped not jut by individual survival

  • but by peahen brains.

  • Peahens, in effect, selectively breed peacocks

  • as pigeon fanciers breed pigeons.

  • Darwin defined this as sexual selection

  • Evolution, he now realised, wasn't just about which animals survived,

  • but which could prevail in winning the favours of the opposite sex.

  • # The naked cowboy Keeping it real for you

  • # I'm the naked cowboy You gotta do what you gotta do

  • There are two ways for an individual to pass his genes on to the next generation -

  • you've got to survive and you may have to be attractive to the opposite sex.

  • A peacock is a walking advertising hoarding.

  • A peacock's tail with its eye spots

  • is like a walking neon sign.

  • Here in America,

  • I'm looking into an unexpected way

  • in which women could be said to be practising a form of selective breeding.

  • I'm going to meet some single women who, in the cold light of day,

  • are choosing the attributes they want to mate with

  • and hope to pass on to their children.

  • Is it even possible that kindness, altruism,

  • is one of the things they go for?

  • Hi.

  • You must be Stacey.

  • I am. Welcome.

  • I'm Richard.

  • And this is?

  • 'These women want to become mothers through a sperm donor.

  • 'It's a kind of hi-tech sexual selection.'

  • Thank you for...

  • Did you think you were choosing a man you yourself would be attracted to?

  • Absolutely. I joke that it's a little bit like going on match.com -

  • you pay for a three-month membership

  • and you look at the photos and I know some women

  • that look at it that way.

  • You're looking for healthy, attractive, fit and intelligent.

  • So I would want those qualities for my child -

  • the same qualities I would want in a partner.

  • They're appealing for people in general, that's how I look at it.

  • For the women's potential partners, partners whom they never meet,

  • the process begins here.

  • Here we have the donor rooms where, you know, they can do their thing.

  • And...

  • Suitable pictures on the wall.

  • Of course you've got to have some inspirational material to help them along.

  • 'But who are the women going to pick?'

  • Are there any women who say, "Just give me something at random"?

  • Very, very, very rarely.

  • Tell me a woman that has walked into a shoe shop

  • and said, "Just give me whatever you have."

  • That doesn't happen.

  • You spend time on your decisions.

  • Of course, but in our society, we pay lip service to the idea

  • that there's something taboo about eugenic choice.

  • So you might think that women might, as it were, go along with that and say,

  • "I don't approve of eugenics, so..."

  • It's America - it's a society of consultation and consumerism.

  • People are used to... You go online, you buy products, you ask questions.

  • 'Donors have to provide full and intimate details of all aspects of their life.'

  • Shoe size and allergies

  • and skin tone -

  • if he tans easily.

  • (Woman) There is one that caught my eye.

  • 6'1", hazel eyes, curly brown hair.

  • Favourite pet - dog.

  • If he's a smoker.

  • He likes James Bond.

  • He likes the Aston Martin.

  • He likes jazz music.

  • 'But I want to return to the enigma of altruism.

  • 'Is it possible that among the qualities women want in a sperm donor

  • 'is niceness - kindness?'

  • I'm interested in this donor

  • because he explained that someone in his family had difficulty getting pregnant

  • and so it was important to him to be able to help others

  • who...um...were in need of assistance in that area.

  • So I liked that.

  • 'What's fascinating is that the women don't just want

  • 'the obvious alpha male qualities.'

  • There's so many things that go into it

  • than just looks and/or intelligence. One of the donors that have been really popular

  • is actually the nicest guy.

  • And...

  • I don't know how you put that in a form,

  • but he's the nicest guy. He's not the smartest guy,

  • he's not the best-looking guy.

  • How do they know he's the nicest?

  • He's actually written a really good extended profile about himself.

  • I've actually met him and the profile checks out - he is a really nice guy.

  • So what's going on here at a more fundamental level?

  • This goes back to an old interest of mine.

  • I became fascinated by the issue of how animals evolved to be nice

  • when I started teaching biology at Oxford in the 1960s.

  • This was barely ten years after the structure of DNA and genes

  • had first been cracked by Watson and Crick,

  • and I was intrigued how the new science of genetics

  • could help provide an answer to the puzzle of altruism.

  • Genes are coded instructions that build every living thing - body and mind.

  • They give rise to the distinctive family nose down through the generations.

  • They dictate what colour eyes you have.

  • But such examples are just the outward and visible tip of the iceberg.

  • Now here's the point -

  • we organisms - you, me, an octopus, a forget-me-not or a giraffe -

  • are survival machines.

  • We are vehicles for the genes that ride inside us -

  • vehicles that are thrown away after we've handed the precious coded information on

  • to the next generation through reproduction.

  • Genes are copied from one generation to the next, on and on.

  • So they, and they alone, are immortal.

  • I advocate a kind of genes'-eye view of nature.

  • The genes that survive are the ones that consistently provide

  • slightly longer necks, slightly keener eyes or improved camouflage

  • and so help their vehicle to survive and therefore pass those same genes on.

  • The survival of the fittest

  • really means the survival of genes,

  • because it is only genes that really survive down through many generations.

  • A gene that didn't look after its own interests would not survive.

  • That's the meaning of the phrase "selfish gene".

  • OK, so how can selfish genes support kindness?

  • If genes are striving selfishly to make more copies of themselves,

  • how can a gene achieve this selfish objective

  • by making its bearer behave altruistically?

  • One part of the answer is kinship.

  • An altruistic gene can spread through the population

  • so long as the altruism is directed at other organisms

  • that have the same gene.

  • In other words, at family.

  • So selfish genes build parent animals who protect their young.

  • In human terms, parents who'd rush into a burning building to save their children.

  • This is called kin selection.

  • The other part of the answer is reciprocal altruism.

  • You scratch my back and I'll scratch yours.

  • When animals live in groups where they encounter each other repeatedly,

  • genes for returning favours can survive.

  • Individuals sacrifice themselves for each other, they give food to each other,

  • to close kin and to other individuals

  • who might be in a position to pay back favours on another occasion.

  • Selfish genes give rise to altruistic individuals.

  • In the '70s, I wrote a book bringing these ideas together,

  • called The Selfish Gene.

  • The idea that altruism ultimately boils down to a survival game for genes

  • raised hackles, but it's now widely accepted among biologists.

  • But it's not the end of the story.

  • I realised there really does seem to be something odd about humans.

  • Aren't humans rather nicer than even the selfish gene theory would expect?

  • We donate to charity, give blood,

  • weep in sympathy at the plight of complete strangers.

  • Now I want to explore why.

  • I've been struggling all my life

  • with why people should be quite so kind and decent to each other.

  • At first glance, it seems to go against the dog-eat-dog viciousness of Darwinism.

  • To be sure, Darwinism was softened

  • because it was in the selfish interests of genes to build altruistic animals.

  • There are good genetic reasons for limited acts of kindness.

  • But I can't help wondering

  • is this enough to explain the kindness of humans or even chimpanzees?

  • 'The Dutch primatologist Frans De Waal

  • 'has been a critic of the selfish gene idea. He studies chimps.

  • 'He believes that our closest living relatives

  • 'exhibit empathy and moral concern

  • 'that goes beyond the kin altruism and tit-for-tat of selfish genes.'

  • Let's say there's a big fight,

  • someone loses the fight,

  • very often another one will put an arm round them, try to calm them down,

  • groom them. We call that consolation behaviour

  • and that's common enough that you can collect data on it.

  • 'De Waal has accused my work of promoting what he's labelled "veneer theory",

  • 'the idea that morals are a thin veneer

  • 'on top of the inherent nastiness of our animal nature.'

  • Well, the reason I speak of veneer theory

  • is because we've seen 30 years of books published

  • on how humans are not inherently kind.

  • Humans are deep-down nasty

  • and if we are kind it's only to make a good impression on each other.

  • And if we are moral, it's just a little veneer over human nature.

  • I take opposition to that.

  • My feeling is that the phenomena that we see, which you've described as empathetic,

  • are phenomena which need explaining.

  • And we're going to explain them, in my case, in terms of selfish genes.

  • Selfish genes are just as good at explaining altruistic behaviour

  • as they are at explaining selfish behaviour.

  • But maybe the problem is that...it's certainly a self-promoting gene,

  • and so the word "selfish" has a motivational content, of course.

  • And I think that's where people sometimes get confused

  • between if we have selfish genes, that means that we must be selfish,

  • and those things need to be kept apart.

  • They really do. It's a very unfortunate confusion,

  • because most of the book is about altruistic behaviour.

  • You know that in political ideology, it has also been used,

  • so for example, what we call social Darwinism,

  • which is very prominent in this country, in the US,

  • is a sort of ideological streak which says animals are not nice to each other,

  • we humans should not be nice to each other.

  • There's no reason to help the poor because the poor need to help themselves

  • and if they cannot, they perish and that's fine.

  • 'I hate social Darwinism too,

  • 'but that doesn't mean we should romanticise nature

  • 'or not face facts when it comes to the genetic roots of altruism.

  • 'I think altruism has been favoured

  • 'by kin selection in small groups in nature.

  • 'But when it comes to humans, something special is going on.'

  • We've gone beyond kin selection.

  • Our world now has been scaled up.

  • We live amongst large, anonymous populations of strangers,

  • not kin who share our genes and not people who we might expect to return favours.

  • And yet we still have a lust to be nice.

  • The rule that's built into your brain says, "Be nice to everyone you meet."

  • And that works in nature because everyone you meet is part of the small group.

  • Everyone you meet is probably going to be a cousin.

  • So when I see another human being in distress,

  • weeping, or something like that,

  • I have an almost uncontrollable urge to go and console,

  • to maybe put my arm around them. "What's the matter? How can I help?"

  • "Um...please let me help you."

  • And that's a strong inner urge

  • which, as a Darwinian,

  • I believe has ancestral roots in a past

  • when I lived in small groups like this, small bands

  • in which I was likely to be surrounded by kin

  • or surrounded by individuals who could reciprocate.

  • I no longer am. This person who's weeping is a complete stranger to me.

  • They will never reciprocate, and yet the lust is still there. I can't help it.

  • Oh, she lost it.

  • She got it last time.

  • I got another one.

  • Oh, brilliant!

  • Why are humans often so good to complete strangers?

  • Could it be because our selfish genes are, in some sense - a blessed sense -

  • misfiring?

  • Compare it to sexual desire.

  • The lust to copulate, even though we deliberately use contraception

  • to thwart its evolutionary purpose,

  • is still there because of hardwiring from the genes.

  • Similarly, we have a lust to be nice, even to total strangers,

  • because niceness has been hardwired into us from the time when we used to live

  • in small groups of close kin and close acquaintances

  • with whom it would pay to reciprocate favours.

  • This, for me, is the antidote

  • to the darkness some have seen in our Darwinian heritage.

  • And it goes further.

  • The joy of being conscious human beings is that we rise above our origins.

  • Our misfiring selfish genes

  • mean we don't ape the nastiness of nature

  • but extract ourselves from it and live by our values.

  • As Darwin recognised, we humans are the first and only species

  • able to escape the brutal force that created us -

  • natural selection.

  • We civilised men do our utmost to check the process of elimination.

  • We build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed and the sick.

  • We institute poor laws and our medical men exert their utmost skill

  • to save the life of every one to the last moment.

  • This is the 999 Club in London's East End.

  • It takes in the less fortunate, alcoholics, drug addicts and the homeless,

  • providing them with tea and hot meals.

  • Such altruism is, I believe,

  • among the pinnacles of human civilisation.

  • We care for the most vulnerable in our society. We look after the sick,

  • we give welfare to the needy.

  • I feel, which I've always felt, that they need something hot...

  • to warm 'em up. When they've been out all night

  • sleeping and...they've got no warmth in their bodies.

  • If they only have a cup of soup...

  • And what makes you feel the need to be so nice and so good?

  • Well, I was a war child, so we never had a lot of food,

  • and that's why I've always tried to look after these as best I can.

  • If they're hungry, I'll feed 'em.

  • You felt hungry as a child, so you felt you didn't want that to happen to others.

  • That's it. That's how I felt.

  • We can empathise. We can imagine how it is for others.

  • A society run on crude Darwinian lines would be a ruthless, merciless place.

  • Fortunately, natural selection gave us big brains.

  • With those big brains, we can plan a gentler society -

  • the sort of society in which we would want to live.

  • Evolution has no purpose.

  • There's no benevolence there, no forward planning.

  • Some people find that disturbing,

  • but there is a better way to think about it.

  • We, alone on Earth, have evolved to the extraordinary point

  • where we can understand the selfish genes that shaped us.

  • They're not models for how to behave, but the opposite.

  • Because we are conscious of these forces,

  • we can work towards taming them.

  • Through kindness and morality, modern medicine, charity,

  • even paying our taxes, we can overthrow the tyranny of natural selection.

  • Our evolved brains empower us to rebel against our selfish genes.

  • Next time, into the lion's den -

  • today's religious backlash against Darwin.

  • The ever more elaborate strategies to deny the evidence of evolution

  • and how Darwin himself struggled with the implications of his own theory.

Once, people thought God had created the world and every living thing,

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