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  • [Sally Mann: "The Two Virginias"]

  • My parents couldn't agree on where to live.

  • My mother found the South unbearable.

  • [May 11, 2000] Well, they went to New Orleans

  • [May 11, 2000] as soon as they were married,

  • [May 11, 2000] and she was miserable.

  • She was 98 pounds.

  • She was sleeping on the floor in a sweat.

  • She was living off Coca-Colas.

  • So they just looked at a map,

  • and they split the difference between New Orleans--

  • where my father was in heaven--

  • and Boston, and found Charlottesville,

  • and then they found Lexington.

  • And then they found this farm.

  • [Lexington, Virginia]

  • There are a number of things that set Southern artists apart

  • from anyone else.

  • Their love of the past

  • and their susceptibility to myth.

  • And their willingness to experiment with romanticism.

  • Their obsession with place

  • and their obsession with family.

  • My parents were important,

  • but Virginia may have been the single most important person in my life.

  • She's an extraordinary woman.

  • She was my family.

  • I was raised by Virginia,

  • [Virginia & Sally] who worked for my parents for 30 years.

  • Virginia Carter was born right down the road

  • and lived in a black community of freed slaves called Buck Hill,

  • and married very young and had five children.

  • And, remarkably, with what she earned,

  • sent all five children away to boarding school.

  • Because, of course, you didn't have public school for black children

  • here in Virginia.

  • And then she sent every one of them through college.

  • That's a remarkable woman--

  • she's just breathtaking.

  • And compassionate, and warm,

  • and big, and generous,

  • and embraced us in a way...

  • [SIGHS]

  • [VIRGINIA MANN]

  • [VIRGINIA MANN] Thanks, mom.

  • [SALLY MANN] Take a picture of you?

  • [VIRGINA] No, thanks.

  • [SALLY] This is good. What is this thing?

  • Do that again.

  • Good girl! [LAUGHS]

  • ["The Two Virginas" (1988–1991)]

  • Going to church with Virginia was an ecstatic moment.

  • First of all, you'd have to get dressed up, which we didn't do.

  • [Easter Sunday, 1956] We didn't get dressed up in our family.

  • We didn't go to church.

  • She'd get us all dressed up and we'd go.

  • And the singing, and the clapping...

  • it's like a great tide.

  • You felt like you were roiled around

  • and in waves of emotion and song

  • and feeling.

  • When I think of the hardships in her life

  • and the inequities,

  • it's astonishing that she could love three white children

  • who didn't have a clue.

  • [Virginia Franklin Carter, 1894–1994]

[Sally Mann: "The Two Virginias"]

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