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  • [MOTHERBOARD]

  • [BROOKLYN, NEW YORK]

  • Hey, it's Brian with Motherboard.

  • [BRIAN A. ANDERSON MOTHERBOARD] I've got one word for you: drones.

  • Now, you've probably heard a little bit about drones in the news lately.

  • These things fly all throughout the Middle East and the horn of Africa.

  • When they're not spying on suspected terrorists,

  • they're probably killing them with hellfire missiles.

  • But here's the thing, drones are coming to the States.

  • And they're actually already here.

  • They're being used to keep an eye on things, so they're not gonna kill you.

  • At least not yet.

  • Motherboard has been fascinated with drones for a while now.

  • But it seems there are some misconceptions about the age of unmanned aerial vehicles.

  • To try and clear the air just a little bit,

  • we're gonna head out and talk to some people who are building drones,

  • who are selling drones all over the world.

  • With any luck, we hope to fly some drones as well.

  • We have absolutely no idea what we're getting into.

  • [DRONE ON]

  • New York City.

  • Captured by a Swiss drone hobbyist.

  • As you're probably thinking,

  • yes, this is illegal as all hell.

  • And I'll be the first to say that doing this sort of thing

  • over the sight of the worst terrorist attacks on American soil?

  • Probably not the best idea.

  • The drone view that you've seen probably looks a bit more like this.

  • Or more accurately, this.

  • The grainy, pixelated birds eye views that unmanned aerial vehicles,

  • or UAVs, offer, have become wildly popular on the internet.

  • Maybe you've heard of the grim footage under it's nome de YouTube:

  • drone porn.

  • How did we arrive at the Robo Wars?

  • And where are they taking us?

  • To get an idea, we left our Brooklyn offices for Washington, D.C.,

  • to meet up with P.W. Singer,

  • one of the world's foremost experts on military robotics.

  • We are

  • [P.W. SINGER AUTHOR, "WIRED FOR WAR"] wrestling with what it means to

  • live, work and even fight through a robotics revolution.

  • The technology that we're using with things like the Predator or the PackBot,

  • you know, those are Model T4, those are Wright Brothers equivalents.

  • But even with that first generation,

  • we're seeing impact on questions like,

  • how do we catch up our laws

  • in war?

  • But also how do we start to catch up our laws domestically

  • as we start to see that technology move over to the domestic side?

  • We're seeing an evolution that is following many other technologies.

  • The story of the airplane is, I think, a good illustration

  • of where we're at and the impact of war

  • on an industry that becomes a game changer.

  • The flying machine was once thought,

  • is mere science fiction.

  • Then, the Wright Brothers make it real.

  • Within a couple years, it's utilized in war.

  • In World War I at the start, they're not armed.

  • They're just used for observation.

  • Then they jury-rig arm there.

  • Then they start to specially design them to be armed.

  • And then by the end of World War I, you see all these other roles

  • being visualized for planes

  • that soon move over to the commercial sector.

  • Passenger, postal delivery, medical evacuation, you name it.

  • Same exact thing is happening with robotics.

  • You know um, first, science fiction.

  • Then, becomes real.

  • The Predator was originally unarmed,

  • just used for observation.

  • Then they jury-rig arm it.

  • Then they specially designed them to be armed.

  • Now, we're seeing all sorts of other roles.

  • One of the latest developments in militarized drones is autonomy.

  • Being able to tell your drone where to go,

  • and then basically setting the thing on cruise control until it gets there

  • is a game changer.

  • At the same time,

  • drone technology is doing what most any other killer ad does as it proliferates.

  • It's becoming smaller.

  • We actually noticed this evolution last year when VICE was in Amman, Jordan,

  • home to SOFEX,

  • the world's largest military weapons expo.

  • You know when you were a kid you used to have those

  • [SHANE SMITH VICE] little model airplanes and then be like...

  • You know, somebody's dad would be a real nerd and have the model airplane.

  • Now like, it's all model airplane-style drones

  • that can take pictures or drop bombs.

  • We want to check out some of these micro drones and size up their market.

  • So we decided to go back.

  • [SPECIAL OPERATIONS FORCES EXPOSITION 2012 AMMAN, JORDAN]

  • Drones are becoming hot commodities for armed forces around the world.

  • Some 600 companies from well over 50 countries are dabbling with drone tech

  • for both spying and killing.

  • And nowhere is this more evident than among the trade booths at SOFEX,

  • where we first meet this guy,

  • a rep for a Turkish drone company.

  • My name is Fatih Senkul,

  • [FATIH SENKUL ATLANTIS UVS] I'm working for Atlantis Unmanned Vehicle Solutions

  • developing unmanned vehicles like "Aeroseeker."

  • Some photographers want to use it for surveillance purposes,

  • military issues, and maybe some go track-and-seek missions.

  • Some of the militaries, even the Turkish Army [said], "What's the payload?"

  • They asked, we said "500 grams"

  • "So let's put a very little camera,

  • and just put 500 grams of bomb

  • and they will do a suicide attack."

  • That's one of the issues they offered that we hadn't thought of.

  • This is something that the military is thinking.

  • If that sounds crazy, well,

  • then there's this.

  • I am a fan of Terminator

  • and I love these movies.

  • I really would like to see some of them in the future,

  • like 2030 maybe?

  • So,

  • I'm trying to do my best to see them.

  • Unlike Fatih,

  • I'm in no rush to hasten the rise of the machines.

  • The next guy we meet at SOFEX maybe isn't either.

  • Then, he says something almost as crazy.

  • To me, drone means you've got something that's operational on its own,

  • [CHRIS BARTER DATRON] it's kind of doing its own thing, like a HAL out of a

  • '2001: Space Odyssey.'

  • Here's hoping his robot, The Scout,

  • has no intentions of becoming self-aware like HAL

  • and refusing to open the pod-bay doors.

  • [COST $60,000 USD]

  • Now, to be clear,

  • The Scout is built by Aeryon Labs,

  • a Canadian drone firm.

  • Datron, its reps like Chris,

  • work with Aeryon on the supply side of the chain.

  • Chris Barter's a drone dealer.

  • The Scout is the flagship UAV in Datron's suite of tactical robotics.

  • Take one look at its size, and it's pretty clear

  • that The Scout is nothing more than a surveillance system.

  • It can fly at speeds up to 30 miles per hour.

  • It's fully operational from -22 to 122 degrees Fahrenheit.

  • And it can withstand wind gusts up to 50 miles per hour.

  • It's a compact, capable machine

  • and has been sought after by the likes of NOA,

  • the US Coast Guard and FEMA.

  • Is there anything that,

  • you know, that you can give me,

  • like a brochure or something like that?

  • And hopefully we will be contacting you very very soon.

  • Sounds like a plan.

  • After Chris closes the deal,

  • he invites us back to Datron's headquarters,

  • just outside of San Diego.

  • In addition to drones, he promises

  • there's going to be some pretty decent surfing.

  • I'm a pretty Buddhist guy.

  • There's not much that makes me tick out there.

  • Um, outside of bad driving and bad surfing.

  • Would you ever use a Scout to shoot some pretty gnarly,

  • big wave surfing footage?

  • Oh absolutely, man.

  • That's actually one of my dreams is to take it out to Pipeline or Waimea.

  • So even though Chris exudes the calculating precision

  • of a drone capitalist,

  • he's a surfer dude at heart.

  • And maybe even a drone hobbyist.

  • And he isn't the only one who views drones as being

  • a whole lot more than killers and spies.

  • This is Justin Wellender.

  • Notice those goggles he's putting on.

  • Those allow for what's known as first person viewing.

  • So suddenly,

  • what the drone's camera sees, transmits back to Justin's goggles.

  • In effect, allowing him to fly.

  • But, we'll get back to the hobbyist later.

  • [DRONE VALLEY VISTA, CALIFORNIA]

  • Southern California has long been a hub of aerospace R and D.

  • And today, drone firms like Datron are popping up all over the region.

  • You can call it Drone Valley.

  • Or even the Drone Zone.

  • Datron's campus is in one of these cookie cutter industrial parks.

  • But soon enough, we find the place,

  • and we're greeted by Chris and two of his colleagues.

  • We get down to the brass tax.

  • Who buys a Scout?

  • I will not go into specific customers by name,

  • but I can address customer bases that we will go after.

  • [DATRON PROMO VIDEO] The Scout is man-packable and offers fast setup,

  • ease of use and hot, swappable payload capabilities.

  • The snap together assembly requires no tools

  • and total assembly to take-off time could be measured in seconds.

  • We're targeting the guy, be it the law enforcement officer,

  • be it the squad guy who's out in a combat theater,

  • who doesn't want to rely on some guy flying a system in Las Vegas

  • that's being launched out of an airport that's, you know, 7,000 miles away.

  • Unlike the Scout, most so-called "hunter-killer drones"

  • are flown out of airforce bases throughout the American West.

  • Many people lose sleep over the thought of these hulking drones.

  • But many others accept the new bug-splat warfare.

  • I have no qualms when I read the news about a drone strike in Pakistan.

  • What troubles me is that

  • people have a tendency to kind of lump in a lot of these unmanned systems

  • one with another.

  • So a Scout, which is unarmed and will probably always be unarmed,

  • is meant specifically for surveillance.

  • Will never be harming any individual.

  • For the most part, unless you know, any kind of accident.

  • The unit really and truly flies itself.

  • It just waits first to tell it when to take off, how high to go,

  • [PAUL WILSON DATRON] how fast to fly, where we want it to go and what to look at.

  • All of our status says we're okay, we've got a GPS accuracy of 2.6 meters.

  • So we're ready to take off.

  • It spins up,

  • it says I've done all my check so now I'm ready to take off.

  • So I hit take off.

  • The vehicle is very good at flying itself

  • and it just listens to the directions of how high we want it to go,

  • where we want it to go to and what we want it to look at.

  • We've had a lot of interest in special use cases

  • like in Nome, Alaska, where they actually had an oil tanker trended,

  • ship oil into Nome.

  • Unfortunately, the harbor froze really early in the year.

  • What they actually did with the Scout was they took it off

  • and they took photographs of the ice surrounding this harbor.

  • And in a post-processing, um...

  • Using post-processing software, they were able to actually

  • map out the sea ice thickness.

  • So they could navigate this tanker in accordingly.

  • So it's a pretty diverse system.

  • It takes some convincing,

  • but eventually Chris and his team let us take this diverse system of theirs

  • for a spin.

  • So I'm gazing up at this airborne robot.

  • Only to see it looking back down at me.

  • I begin to feel the sting of my own privacy potentially being compromised.

  • And I can't help but wonder if Chris and Datron feel the same.

  • Yes, we do empathize with the security and privacy rights,

  • but we're more so focused on supporting that agency,

  • supporting that firefighter or supporting that law enforcement officer

  • going into the building,

  • who needs to know either what's happening in that building

  • in a tactical type of situation or what's happening on the other side.

  • So really, it's in the court of public opinion how that gets fleshed out.

  • Datron doesn't want to talk about privacy.

  • But Chris hopes every day civilians will come to see something like the Scout

  • as a friend, not Big Brother.

  • As we deploy these into real world environments,

  • what I hope happens is that people attain an understanding

  • of how these systems are actually working for them.

  • As opposed to against them.

  • How do you think we did?

  • You guys did pretty good.

  • You took off and you landed exactly where you wanted it to

  • and you didn't crash a thing.

  • You did good. -No blood.

  • No blood!

  • No blood, no dents, no scratches!

  • Now that we've gotten a glimpse of the defense and professional side of this equation,

  • we decided to check out some of the folks

  • at the leading edge of hobby drones.

  • A few miles down the road from Datron is 3D Robotics,

  • a company that represents a drastic culture shift in drone tech.

  • Alan and Sam, two engineers with the company,

  • give us a quick run of the lab.

  • This is where we design all the

  • [ALAN SANCHEZ 3D ROBOTICS] frames, the autopilots,

  • all the circuits.

  • Right.

  • And also where we play around.

  • So this is just where everything starts

  • and then the manufacturing, shipping

  • and testing is on the other side.

  • So right now, the word "drone" I feel has a negative connotation,

  • especially with all the wars that have been going on and

  • military drones being the most common use of the word.

  • But really, a drone is a machine that you can,

  • you know, pre-program or class at a level of autonomy.

  • That could, you know, do a job the user can't do or doesn't want to do.

  • So what we're doing is turning regular RC Aircraft

  • or even, you know, helicopter squad copters into autonomous vehicles.

  • With our autopilot, you can just drop it into your existing vehicle

  • and turn it into a fully autonomous aircraft...

  • Um, something that wasn't available for the masses before.

  • Um, and then, what to do with it, that's where the user comes in, you know?

  • We're selling the tool and it's up to the user to come up with a use for it.

  • And you know, you can go buy scissors and do something bad with it,

  • so it's basically the same thing.

  • I'm Chris Anderson,

  • [CHRIS ANDERSON CO-FOUNDER 3D ROBOTICS] I'm the co-founder of 3D Robotics and

  • founded DIY drones in the community that spawned us initially.

  • This is not my day job.

  • My day job is I'm the editor at WIRED.

  • Shortly after taping this interview,

  • Chris Anderson announced his departure from WIRED

  • to focus on 3D Robotics full-time.

  • Well what you're looking at here is

  • what we think of something like, you know, the Apple, you know,

  • from 1977, coming out of the Home-brewed computing club.

  • Amateurs, um, hobbyists, you know, not the IBMs of the day.

  • Technology in your cell phone, the sensors, the processors,

  • the wireless, etc. The fact that this has become cheap and available

  • and ubiquitous is the enabling technology

  • of the personal drone movement.

  • And we don't come out of the airspace and disappear.

  • It'll come-it definitely won't come out of the military.

  • We come out of the hobbyist world,

  • and what you're seeing here is just a bottoms up,

  • open-sourced, community-based attempt

  • to take technology that was once a military, industrial one

  • and democratize it.

  • Make it available to everybody and introduce the word "personal" to drone.

  • Minutes later, we're heading to a nearby field

  • that serves as one of the main proving grounds for 3D's aircraft.

  • Alan and Sam bring along two drones:

  • a small quad copter and a more traditional RC glider.

  • We're curious to see how these guys stack up against the pro model,

  • like the Scout.

  • These things are light.

  • The planes are foam, they hit you on the head,

  • they'll just sort of bounce off. It won't hurt you

  • but they're not, they don't have weapons.

  • They are, you know, can't carry anything very heavy.

  • They're, you know, designed basically to like, radar patrol

  • like toy airplanes but they just have a plane.

  • Yeah, so these things take a while to get some altitude.

  • Bottled it up. Fill it up or should I just...

  • [COST $500 USD]

  • And just like that, our graceful flight is cut short.

  • The guys are spooked by a small private plane

  • passing through our airspace.

  • Which brings us to the Federal Aviation Administration's stance on drones.

  • You know, since the FAA doesn't really have rules for what we make,

  • we just piggyback onto RC Aircraft.

  • And so we're limited by, you know, altitude,

  • we can only fly 400 feet or below.

  • We have to fly within line of sight.

  • Just various rules that are there

  • that maybe we could do away with 'cause our drones are more capable.

  • [COST $600 USD]

  • While 3D's quad copter and the Scout might look similar,

  • their differences far outweigh any similarities.

  • 3D shoots seemingly better looking footage

  • than the Scout that we flew, for one thing.

  • Just compare the two.

  • Then again, what the Scout might lack in visuals,

  • it makes up in durability.

  • And of course the GPS and the slick user interface

  • allow for reconnaissance and search and rescue capabilities

  • that put it above and beyond 3D's systems,

  • which are more or less, pimped out RC Aircraft.

  • We fly 3D's drones the old-fashioned way,

  • with RC controllers.

  • But thanks to 3D's autopilot, these are autonomous aircraft.

  • Meaning that just like the Scout,

  • you can tell your DIY drone where to go,

  • let it get there by itself,

  • and then regain control once it's at point B.

  • Wow.

  • I could see how it would be easy to drop out

  • and kick it in the drone zone forever,

  • but it's time we get back to New York.

  • So we've made it back to Brooklyn.

  • Before this trip, a lot of my thinking about today's drone world

  • came with a certain alarmism.

  • To a degree, I think it still does.

  • And for good reason.

  • When you're playing with toys like these, it can be hard to forget

  • that drone technologies are evolving in large part

  • to being really, really good at killing a lot of people.

  • So if you want it to come back to you, -Yeah.

  • take this switch and pull it all the way down.

  • So I think that rigging that big Predator and Reaper drones

  • to incinerate innocent civilians and American citizens on foreign soil,

  • is too much the stuff of war crimes and extrajudicial killings.

  • And I certainly don't sit well with the thought of a spying robot

  • peering into my apartment window.

  • But when it comes to some of the tactical and hobbyist drone deployments

  • that I saw in Jordan and San Diego,

  • I kind of caught the bug.

  • It's getting harder and harder to argue against the fact that for certain scenarios,

  • drones just make sense.

  • Think about Aeryon giving a couple Scouts to Libyan rebels last year

  • to help aid their fight against Muammar Qaddafi's forces.

  • We all know how that story ended.

  • But beyond the wartime theater,

  • think of the myriad possibilities that drones open up for research,

  • filmmaking,

  • even the next generation in taco delivery.

  • Or I think about a guy like Justin, who's just really, really stoked on flying.

  • My guess as to what the domestic dronescape is going to look like

  • in the next five to ten years is about as good as yours.

  • But having spoken with people like Chris Barter

  • and Sam and Alan out at 3D,

  • I can say with relative assurity that drones are going to become

  • more a part of our everyday lives than they already are.

  • Should we be concerned about that?

  • Absolutely.

  • But so long as these drones are being put to legitimate uses,

  • that's maybe not the worst thing, is it?

[MOTHERBOARD]

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