and normally speaking, a picture like this, for me,

通常來講像這張照片對我來說

should be straightforward.

應該是一發即中的，

I'm in southern Ethiopia. I'm with the Daasanach.

我在南伊索比亞與 「達薩納奇人」在一起

There's a big family, there's a very beautiful tree,

那裡有一個大家族、 一棵非常漂亮的樹，

and I make these pictures with this very large,

我用非常大台、

extremely cumbersome, very awkward technical plate film camera.

極為笨重、非常難搞的平面底片攝相機拍出這些照片

Does anybody know 4x5 and 10x8 sheets of film,

有人知道一張 4 x 5 和 10 x 8 大小的底片嗎？

and you're setting it up, putting it on the tripod.

我就把它裝設好、放置到三腳架上。

I've got the family, spent the better part of a day talking with them.

我找上了該家族， 花了好半天跟他們聊天，

They sort of understand what I'm on about.

他們似乎聽懂了我講的意思，

They think I'm a bit crazy, but that's another story.

他們認為我有點不正常， 不過那是另一個故事了。

And what's most important for me is the beauty and the aesthetic,

對我來說最重要的是漂亮和美感，

and that's based on the light.

彼乃取決於光線；

So the light's setting on my left-hand side,

所以陽光就在我的左手邊轉暗，

and there's a balance in the communication with the Daasanach,

其與「達薩納奇人」之間的 聯繫有著一種平衡，

the family of 30, all ages.

老老少少三十人的家庭，

There's babies and there's grandparents,

有嬰兒也有祖父母輩。

I'm getting them in the tree and waiting for the light to set,

我把他們弄上樹去等著太陽下山，

and it's going, going, and I've got one sheet of film left,

時間一分一秒過去， 我手邊只剩下一張底片，

and I think, I'm okay, I'm in control, I'm in control.

我認為我準備好了！ 一切都在我的掌控下了！

I'm setting it up and I'm setting up, and the light's just about to go,

我正在裝底片、調整相機， 天色差不多要轉暗了，

and I want it to be golden, I want it to be beautiful.

我想要光線轉成金黃色的、很漂亮的，

I want it to be hanging on the horizon so it lights these people,

我想要它停留在地平線上， 這樣的話它會照亮這些人，

in all the potential glory that they could be presented.

展現出他們最內蘊的美麗樣貌，

And it's about to go and it's about to go,

天色要轉暗了！天色要轉暗了！

and I put my sheet in the camera,

我把底片放進相機，

it's all focused,

相機已經聚焦好了，

and all of a sudden there's a massive "whack,"

突然間有聲巨大的拍擊，

and I'm looking around, and in the top corner of the tree,

我四處張望著，而在樹的頂端

one of the girls slaps the girl next to her,

一個女孩賞了 她身邊另一個女孩一巴掌，

and the girl next to her pulls her hair, and all hell breaks loose,

她旁邊那個女孩就抓了她的頭髮， 整個亂成了一團，

and I'm standing there going, "But the light, the light.

我就站在那邊喊著：「光線！光線！

Wait, I need the light. Stay still! Stay still!"

我需要這個光線！保持好姿勢啊！」

And they start screaming,

然後她們開始尖叫，

and then one of the men turns around and starts screaming, shouting,

接著一個男的轉過身開始尖叫、嘶喊，

and the whole tree collapses, not the tree, but the people in the tree.

然後整棵樹倒了，不是啦！ 是在樹上的人掉了下來。

They're all running around screaming, and they run back off into the village

他們全都尖叫著四處奔跑， 一溜煙地回到村子裡，

in this sort of cloud of smoke, and I'm left there standing behind my tripod.

徒留我一個人站立在我的三腳架後面。

I've got my sheet, and the light's gone, and I can't make the picture.

我裝好了底片、陽光消失了， 而我無法拍出照片了！

Where have they all gone? I had no idea.

他們全都跑哪去了呀？ 我完全不知道。

It took me a week, it took me a week to make the picture which you see here today,

這花了我一個禮拜！ 拍出你今天在這裡看到的這張照片，

and I'll tell you why. (Applause)

我會跟你們說是什麼原因的。（掌聲）

It's very, very, very simple -- I spent a week going around the village,

道理非常簡單－ 我花了一個禮拜走遍整個村莊，

and I went to every single one: "Hello, can you meet at the tree?

我一一找上門去問：「哈囉！ 你能在那棵樹那裡跟我碰面嗎？

What's your story? Who are you?"

你有什麼故事？你是誰啊？」

And it all turned out to be about a boyfriend, for crying out loud.

這般哭天搶地結果全是為了個男朋友，

I mean, I have teenage kids. I should know.

我是說我自己也有小孩子， 我早該料到的。

It was about a boyfriend. The girl on the top, she'd kissed the wrong boy,

就是為了個男朋友啦， 在頂頭的女孩親錯了男孩，

and they'd started having a fight.

她們就開始打起來了，

And there was a very, very beautiful lesson for me in that:

這讓我上了非常精采的一門課：

If I was going to photograph these people

「要是我打算一如我所願

in the dignified, respectful way that I had intended,

莊敬地來拍攝這些人，

and put them on a pedestal, I had to understand them.

而且把他們放在基座上，我得要去瞭解他們。」

It wasn't just about turning up. It wasn't just about shaking a hand.

並不是突然跑了出來、握一下手，

It wasn't about just saying, "I'm Jimmy, I'm a photographer."

說著：「我是吉米！我是攝影師！」。

I had to get to know every single one of them,

我得去認識他們每一個人，

right down to whose boyfriend is who and who is allowed to kiss who.

就連誰的男朋友是誰、 誰可以去親誰這種細節也得知道，

So in the end, a week later,

所以到了最後，在一個禮拜後

and I was absolutely exhausted,

我無比疲累，

I mean on my knees going, "Please get back up in that tree.

我幾乎是跪著說：「拜託回到樹上去，

It's a picture I need to make."

這是我需要拍的照片啊！」

They all came back. I put them all back up in the tree.

他們全部回到了樹上， 我把他們全弄到樹上去了，

I made sure the girls were in the right position,

我確定女孩們都在正確的位置上，

and the ones that slapped, one was over there.

打巴掌的那一個和另一個。

They did look at each other. If you look at it later,

她們彼此對看著， 你等一下可以看到

they're staring at each other very angrily,

她們正非常生氣地盯住對方。

and I've got the tree and everything,

我有了樹、有了所有東西，

and then at the last minute, I go, "The goat, the goat!

然後在最後一刻我說了： 「山羊！還有山羊！

I need something for the eye to look at. I need a white goat in the middle."

我需要能吸引目光的東西， 我需要一隻白山羊在中央。」

So I swapped all the goats around. I put the goats in.

所以我試換過所有附近的山羊， 我把山羊放進去了，

But even then I got it wrong, because if you can see on the left-hand side,

即使這樣，我還是做錯了，你可以看見左手邊，

another little boy storms off because I didn't choose his goat.

另一個小男孩氣沖沖走開， 就因為我沒有選中他的羊！」

So the moral being I have to learn to speak Goat as well as Daasanach.

寓意就是我必須去學「羊語」 如同「達薩納奇語」一般。

But anyway, the effort that goes into that picture

總之我的努力都進到這張照片，

and the story that I've just related to you,

以及我剛剛跟你們講述的故事裡，

as you can imagine,

你們可以想像到，

there are hundreds of other bizarre, eccentric stories

世界各地還有上百個類似的

of hundreds of other people around the world.

古怪稀奇故事。

And this was about four years ago, and I set off on a journey,

而這個大概是在四年前的事了，我展開了一段旅程，

to be honest, a very indulgent journey.

老實說是一段非常放縱的旅程，

I'm a real romantic. I'm an idealist, perhaps in some ways naive.

我是個如假包換的浪漫派、理想主義者，或許就某方面來講是天真，

But I truly believe that there are people on the planet that are beautiful.

不過我真心相信在這個星球上 有著很漂亮的人。

It's very, very simple. It's not rocket science.

非常簡單的事情，沒什麼大學問，

I wanted to put these people on a pedestal.

我想要把這些人弄到一個基座上，

I wanted to put them on a pedestal like they'd never been seen before.

我想把他們放到一個基座 像是他們從來還不曾被人看到過。

So, I chose about 35 different groups,

所以我差不多選了 35 個 不同的團體、

tribes, indigenous cultures.

部落或原住民文化，

They were chosen purely because of their aesthetic,

純粹是以他們的美感做這些選擇，

and I'll talk more about that later.

我稍後會談到更多這部分的事。

I'm not an anthropologist, I have no technical study with the subject,

我不是人類學家、該類議題我沒有專業的涉略，

but I do have a very, very, very deep passion,

但是我懷有深切的熱忱，

and I believe that I had to choose the most beautiful people on the planet

而且我相信我得要選出這個星球上

in the most beautiful environment that they lived in,

住在最美麗環境的最漂亮人種，

and put the two together and present them to you.

把這兩者湊在一塊兒呈現在你眼前。

About a year ago,

大約在一年前吧，

I published the first pictures,

我公開了第一張照片，

and something extraordinarily exciting happened.

而且發生了無比令人興奮的事情，

The whole world came running,

那是一種很奇特的經驗，

and it was a bizarre experience, because everybody, from everywhere:

因為全世界各地每個人都跑過來問：

"Who are they? What are they? How many are they?

「他們是誰？他們是什麼人？他們有多少人？

Where did you find them? Are they real? You faked it.

你在哪裡找到他們的？他們是真的嗎？你騙人！

Tell me. Tell me. Tell me. Tell me." Millions of questions for which,

告訴我、快點告訴我啦！」相關問題多不勝數。

to be honest, I don't have the answers.

老實講我也沒有答案！

I really didn't have the answers,

我真的沒有答案，

and I could sort of understand, okay, they're beautiful, that was my intention,

我可以有點清楚，可以了！他們很漂亮啦，那就是我要的啦，

but the questions that I was being fired at,

不過我被人狂問的問題

I could not answer them.

我沒有辦法解答它們。

Until, it was quite amusing, about a year ago

直到大約一年前還有點好笑，

somebody said, "You've been invited to do a TED Talk."

有人跟我說： 「你受邀去 TED 演說！」

And I said, "Ted? Ted? Who's Ted? I haven't met Ted before."

我說：「泰德？泰德嗎？誰是泰德啊？ 我以前從沒見過泰德呀？」

He said, "No, a TED Talk." I said, "But who's Ted?

他說：「不是的！是 TED 演說啦！」， 我說：「不過誰是泰德呢？

Do I have to talk to him or do we sit with each other on the stage?"

我是得跟他談什麼呢？ 還是跟他一起坐在講台上？」

And, "No, no, the TED group. You must know about it."

他說：「不是！不是啦！ 你一定知道 TED 大會吧！」

And I said, "I've been in a teepee and in a yurt for the last five years.

我說：「我住在圓尖式帳棚 和蒙古包裡已經五年了，

How do I know who Ted is? Introduce me to him."

我怎麼會知道誰是泰德呢？ 幫我介紹一下吧。」

Anyway, to cut a long story short, he said, "We have to do a TED Talk."

總之長話短說吧，他說： 「我們得做一場 TED 演說啦。」

Researched. Oh, exciting. That's great!

做點功課後－哇！ 太好玩了、棒透了！

And then eventually you're going to go to TEDGlobal.

接著是最後你將會參加 TEDGlobal 的年度大會，

Even more exciting.

這更有趣。

But what you need to do, you need to teach the people lessons,

但是你得做什麼呢？你需要教大家過來人的經驗，

lessons that you've learned on your travels around the world

你在世界旅行與這些部落相處時學到的

with these tribes.

過來人的經驗。

I thought, lessons, okay, well, what did I learn? Good question.

我想好吧！過來人的經驗喔， 我學到什麼呢？好問題。

Three. You need three lessons, and they need to be terribly profound.

三項！你需要有三項過來人的經驗， 而且必須要博大精深到不行。

(Laughter)

（笑聲）

And I thought, three lessons, well, I'm going to think about it.

我想了一下，三項過來人的經驗喔， 好吧！我來想想看吧。

(Applause)

（掌聲）

So I thought long and hard, and I stood here two days ago,

因此我努力想了很久， 我兩天前

and I had my test run, and I had my cards

就站在這裡試演過了一遍，我手上拿著小抄

and my clicker in my hands and my pictures were on the screen,

和切換遙控器，我的照片就在螢幕上，

and I had my three lessons, and I started presenting them,

我想好了我的三項過來人經驗，我開始在介紹它們，

and I had this very odd out-of-body experience.

我有了非常古怪的靈魄出竅經驗，

I sort of looked at myself standing there, going, "Oh, Jimmy,

我有點像看著自己站在這裡，我說：「噢！吉米，

this is complete loads of codswallop.

這完全是一堆廢話，

All these people sitting here, they've had more of these talks,

所有坐在台下的這些人，他們已經聽過許多場這種演說了，

they've heard more lessons in their life.

他們在他們的生活中，早已聽過更多過來人的經驗了，

Who are you to tell them what you've learned?

你憑什麼告訴他們你學到的東西，

Who are you to guide them and who are you to show them

你憑什麼指引他們？

what is right, what is wrong, what these people have to say?"

你憑什麼跟他們講大道理、這些人得說些什麼？」

And I had a little bit of a, it was very private,

然後我有一點點崩潰，

a little bit of a meltdown.

這非常隱密外人全都不知道啦；

I went back, and a little bit like the boy walking away from the tree with his goats,

我就回家了，有點像跟著他的羊一起離開樹下的那個小男孩，

very disgruntled, going, that didn't work,

非常不悅地說：「這一套不行，

It wasn't what I wanted to communicate.

這並不是我想要傳達的。」

And I thought long and hard about it, and I thought, well, the only thing

我又很努力地想了很久，想說好吧！

I can communicate is very, very basic.

唯一我可以傳達的東西非常基本：

You have to turn it all the way around.

「你必須扭轉局面！」

There's only one person I know here, and that's me.

在這裡我所瞭解的 只有一個人－就是我，

I'm still getting to know myself,

我也還在認識自己，

and it's a lifelong journey, and I probably won't have all the answers,

這是一輩子的旅程， 我可能不會有一切的答案，

but I did learn some extraordinary things on this journey.

但是在這個旅途中我的確學到一些非比尋常的事情。

So what I'm going to do is share with you my lessons.

所以我接下來要做的是分享我的過來人經驗給你，

It's a very, as I explained at the beginning, very indulgent, very personal,

如同我一開始就解釋過， 那是非常放縱、很私人的，

how and why I made these pictures,

我怎樣和為什麼要拍這些照片，

and I leave it to you as the audience to interpret what these lessons

我把這個留給你們聽眾來解讀

have meant to me, what they could perhaps mean to you.

這些過來人的經驗對我、或者可以對你們有什麼意義？

I traveled enormously as a child.

我小時候經常旅行，

I was very nomadic. It was actually very exciting.

非常居無定所的，那真的很好玩，

All around the world,

跑遍了整個世界；

and I had this feeling that I was pushed off at great speed

我有著被高速催促著

to become somebody, become that individual, Jimmy.

成為某人的這種感覺，成為「吉米」這個人，

Go off into the planet, and so I ran, and I ran,

離開去深入這星球！所以我跑了又跑，

and my wife sometimes kids me, "Jimmy, you look a bit like Forrest Gump,"

我太太偶爾取笑我： 「吉米，你看起來有點像『阿甘』喔！」，

but I'm, "No, it's all about something, trust me."

不過我會說：「不是啦， 這都是有意義的啦，相信我！」

So I kept running and I kept running, and I sort of got somewhere

我持續不斷地跑，我像是到了某處，

and I sort of stood there and looked around me and I thought, well,

像是站在那裡望著我的四周，

where do I belong? Where do I fit?

想著我的歸屬於哪裡？ 哪個地方適合我？

What am I? Where am I from? I had no idea.

我是什麼？我從哪裡來的？ 我半點頭緒都沒有的；

So I hope there aren't too many psychologists in this audience.

我希望聽眾之中沒有太多心理學專家，

Perhaps part of this journey

也許旅程的一部分

is about me trying to find out where I belonged.

和我試著找出我的歸屬在哪裡有關。

So whilst going, and don't worry, I didn't when I arrived with these tribes,

所以當我在行進時、當我抵達 且與那些部族在一起時，

I didn't paint myself yellow and run around with these spears and loincloths.

別操心啦我沒有把我自己塗上黃色帶著尖矛與獅鬃到處跑；

But what I did find were people that belonged themselves,

不過我發現到的是這些人就是屬於他們自己的，

and they inspired me, some extraordinary people,

他們啟發了我－那些少數不同一般的人，

and I'd like to introduce you to some heroes of mine.

而我想要跟你們介紹一些

They're the Huli.

我非常崇尚的人－「胡力人」

Now, the Huli are some of the most extraordinarily beautiful people

「胡力人」是當今

on the planet.

這星球上絕美的一些人，

They're proud. They live in the Papua New Guinean highlands.

他們非常自豪、住在巴布亞紐幾內亞的高地上，

There's not many of them left, and they're called the Huli wigmen.

現在剩下來的人已經不多了， 他們被叫做「胡力溫格人」，

And images like this, I mean, this is what it's all about for me.

像這樣的形像就是所為何來了。

And you've spent weeks and months there talking with them, getting there,

花了數個禮拜、幾個月到達那裡、跟他們對談，

and I want to put them on a pedestal, and I said, "You have something

我想要將他們擺在一個基座上，我說：「你們有著

that many people have not seen.

許多人都沒見識過的一些東西，

You sit in this stunning nature."

你們處在迷人的自然裡。」

And it really does look like this, and they really do look like this.

環境真的就是這個樣子， 他們人真的就是這個樣子，

This is the real thing.

這是真實的東西。

And you know why they're proud? You know why they look like this,

你知道為什麼他們很自豪嗎？你知道為什麼他們就是這個樣子嗎？

and why I broke my back literally

為什麼我真的拼了老命克服一切險難

to photograph them and present them to you?

來把他們照下來呈現給你們看呢？

It's because they have these extraordinary rituals.

因為他們有著非常罕見的儀式，

And the Huli have this ritual: When they're teenagers,

胡利人有個儀式：當他們從小夥子

becoming a man, they have to shave their heads,

邁入成年人時得剃光頭髮，

and they spend the rest of their life shaving their heads every single day,

接著他們會用餘生的每一天來剃頭，

and what they do with that hair,

而他們怎麼處理他們剃下來的頭髮呢？

they make it into a creation,

他們把它變成一種創作，

a creation that's a very personal creation.

一種非常私人的創作，

It's their creation. It's their Huli creation.

那是他們的創作、那是胡利人的創作，

So they're called the Huli wigmen.

所以他們被叫做胡利「假髮人」。

That's a wig on his head.

在他頭上的是一頂假髮，

It's all made out of his human hair.

那全是用他的頭髮做的，

And then they decorate that wig with the feathers of the birds of paradise,

然後他們用天堂鳥的羽毛來裝飾假髮，

and don't worry, there are many birds there.

不必操心，那裡還有著許多的天堂鳥；

There's very few people living, so nothing to get too upset about,

只有非常少的人住在那裡， 所以不用太為天堂鳥感到難過的，

and they spend the rest of their life recreating these hats

他們用餘生持續製作這些帽子

and getting further and further,

讓它變得越來越大頂。

and it's extraordinary, and there's another group,

而且非常少見地那裡有另一群人，

they're called the Kalam, and they live in the next valley,

他們叫做「迦朗人」， 他們就住在旁邊的村莊，

but they speak a completely different language,

但是他們說著完全不一樣的語言、

they look completely different, and they wear a hat,

長得完全不一樣，他們戴著帽子，

and it's built out of scarabs,

帽子是用甲蟲編製成的，

these fantastic emerald green little scarabs,

這些非常棒的翡翠綠色小甲蟲，