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  • IT IS THE LATEST WORD IS

  • UNDER THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL

  • DEBATE, AND ONE MAJOR STORY IS

  • DOMINATING THE NATIONAL NEWS.

  • CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA.

  • THE SECOND NIGHT OF VIOLENT

  • PROTESTS AFTER THE POLICE

  • SHOOTING OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN

  • MAN ON TUESDAY.

  • TODAY, SALADS CHIEF OF POLICE

  • SAID THE VIDEO OF THE SHOOTING

  • SUPPORTS THE OFFICER'S VERSION

  • OF EVENTS, BUT DOES NOT

  • DEFINITELY SHOW SCOTT POINTING A

  • GUN AT POLICE.

  • THE CITY REFUSES TO RELEASE

  • FOOTAGE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT

  • INTENDS TO SHOW STOCKS FAMILY.

  • ALWAYS FOLLOWED ANOTHER CHAOTIC

  • NATIVE GUNFIRE AND TEAR GAS IN

  • CHARLOTTE'S CITY CENTER.

  • NORTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR HAS

  • DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY,

  • THE NATIONAL GUARD HAS BEEN

  • DEPLOYED, AND LORETTA LYNCH IS

  • SENDING DOJ OFFICERS HELP

  • POLICE.

  • POLICE RELATED SHOOTINGS HAVE

  • BEEN ONE OF THE MOST EXPLOSIVE

  • ISSUES IN AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR

  • IS ANST FEW YEARS, AND IT

  • ISSUE THAT BOTH PRESIDENTIAL

  • CANDIDATES HAVE JUST ON THE

  • CAMPAIGN TRAIL.

  • HERE'S DONALD TRUMP, SPEAKING

  • TODAY.

  • MR. TRUMP: MANY AMERICANS ARE

  • WATCHING THE UNREST IN CHARLOTTE

  • UNFOLDING RIGHT BEFORE THEIR

  • EYES ON THE TV SCREENS.

  • OTHERS ARE WITNESSING THE CHAOS

  • AND VIOLENCE FIRSTHAND.

  • OUR COUNTRY LOOKS BAD TO THE

  • WORLD, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE

  • SUPPOSED TO BE THE WORLD LEADER.

  • HOW CAN WE LEAD WHEN WE CAN'T

  • EVEN CONTROL OUR OWN CITIES?

  • WE HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT

  • OF ALL AMERICANS TO PEACEFULLY

  • ASSEMBLE, PROTEST, AND

  • DEMONSTRATE, BUT THERE IS NO

  • RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN VIOLENT

  • DISRUPTION.

  • AS MESSAGES WERE DECIDEDLY

  • MIXED TODAY.

  • AT TIMES THEY DISPLAYED AT THE

  • DEEPER THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN

  • COMMUNITY, AND IN OTHER TIMES

  • FROM SAID HE WOULD GET TOUGH ON

  • CRIME AND SUGGESTED THAT DRUGS

  • WERE A VERY BIG FACTOR IN THE

  • VIOLENCE AMERICANS ARE SEEING ON

  • THEIR TELEVISIONS EVERY NIGHT.

  • HILLARY CLINTON WAS ON THE

  • CAMPAIGN TRAIL TODAY, BUT

  • YESTERDAY CALLED THE REASON

  • POLICE SHOOTINGS, "UNBEARABLE

  • AND INTOLERABLE."

  • MARK, THESE ISSUES ARE SURE TO

  • COME UP IN THE DEBATE ON MONDAY.

  • IN TERMS OF POLITICS AND POLICY

  • ON THIS TOPIC, WHERE DO THE

  • CANDIDATES STAND AT THIS POINT,

  • AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DEBATE

  • BETWEEN THEM IS LIKELY TO LOOK

  • LIKE?

  • NEWS TODAY,EAKING

  • THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN TULSA,

  • OKLAHOMA CHARGED OFFICER BETTY

  • SHALL BE WITH MANSLAUGHTER.

  • SHE IS THE OFFICER WHO SHOT

  • TERENCE CRUTCHER, WHICH PRECEDED

  • THE CHARLOTTE EVENT, BUT

  • SUPERCHARGED THE REACTION THERE.

  • THAT WILL BE MUCH DISCUSSED OVER

  • THE COMING DAYS.

  • CHARLOTTE PROBABLY WILL REMAIN

  • THE CENTER OF ATTENTION BECAUSE

  • THAT CASE IS STILL PLAYING OUT

  • AND THERE ARE STILL SOME

  • QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY

  • HAPPENED, AND THE VIDEO BEING

  • SHOWN ONLY TO THE FAMILY WILL

  • CREATE CONTROVERSY.

  • THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT BOTH

  • CAMPAIGNS HAVE SURRENDERED TWO,

  • RECOGNIZING JUST A MOMENT OF

  • LEADERSHIP THEY NEED TO STEP UP

  • TO, BUT IF THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT

  • THIS, IT WILL LIKELY KEEP THEM

  • OUT OF THE NEWS.

  • HOWARD CLINTON IS DOWN BETWEEN

  • NOW AND THE DEBATE ON TUESDAY.

  • SHE DID NOT, TODAY, BUT DID SHE

  • DOES HAVE POLICIES ON THIS,

  • MOSTLY INVOLVING MORE WASHINGTON

  • SPENDING TO TRY TO CREATE

  • PROGRAMS ON BEST PRACTICES AND

  • THINGS LIKE THAT.

  • HAS NOT BEEN VERY

  • SPECIFIC.

  • I THINK THIS WILL BE LESS ABOUT

  • WHO IS PROPOSING WHAT SPECIFIC,

  • AND MORE ABOUT WHO SEEMS TO BE

  • STEPPING UP TO BE READY COME

  • JANUARY TO DEAL WITH WHAT IS

  • SURE TO BE A LINGERING AND

  • PERSISTENT ISSUE FOR THE

  • COUNTRY.

  • HILLARY CLINTON IS

  • RELATIVELY EASY TO EXPLAIN WHERE

  • SHE IS.

  • SHE HAS MADE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE

  • POLICY PROPOSALS AND HER

  • RHETORICAL POSTURE, WHICH IS

  • FOCUSED TO A LARGER ON ENDEMIC

  • RACISM AND RACIAL BIAS IN POLICE

  • FORCES, AND HER POSITION ON GUN

  • VIOLENCE.

  • SHE HAS A RELATIVELY CONSISTENT

  • POSITION.

  • DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN TRYING TO

  • WALK A TIGHTROPE.

  • A SPIRIT OFD ABOUT

  • TOGETHERNESS, TALKED ABOUT THE

  • NEED TO WALK A MILE IN SOMEONE

  • ELSE'S SHOES AND SEE THINGS IN

  • THEIR EYES AND FIX OUR WOUNDED

  • COUNTRY.

  • LAST NIGHT AT ONE POINT, HE

  • TALKED ABOUT STOP AND FIRST AS A

  • POTENTIAL SOLUTION.

  • HE SAYS THAT ASSIST IN CHICAGO,

  • THE CLEVELAND.

  • THIS INCENDIARY COMMENT ABOUT

  • DRUGS BEING A PART OF WHAT IS

  • GOING ON IN THESE CITIES, HE IS

  • TRYING TO STAY OUT OF THE RACIAL

  • MINEFIELD, BUT AT THE SAME TIME

  • HE STILL WANTS TO BE THE LAW AND

  • ORDER CANDIDATE.

  • HILLARY CLINTON IS CONSISTENT.

  • CAP IS RIGHT NOW TRYING TO HAVE

  • IT BOTH WAYS, AND THAT MIGHT NOT

  • WORK THAT WELL FOR HIM ON THE

  • DEBATE STAGE.

  • FOCUSTHE LATEST NATIONAL

  • ON THE TRAGEDY OF A POLICE

  • SHOOTING OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN

  • MAN IS OCCURRING IN THE MIDST OF

  • THE ENDGAME OF THIS PRESIDENTIAL

  • CONTEST.

  • IT IS AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED IN

  • CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA.

  • NATIONAL NEWSE

  • CREWS BACK UP AND GO HOME, THIS

  • SHOOTING OF A PROTEST ARE SURE

  • TO LINGER IN THAT STATE FROM NOW

  • UNTIL ELECTION DAY.

  • NORTH CAROLINA IS ONE OF THE BIG

  • THREE BATTLEGROUND STATES THAT

  • WILL PLAY A BIG ROLE IN PICKING

  • THE NEXT PRESIDENT.

  • IT IS THE ONLY STATE BARACK

  • ITMA WON IN 2008, BUT LOST

  • 2012.

  • HE LOST THE TAR HEEL STATE BY

  • ABOUT 100,000 VOTES TO MITT

  • ROMNEY.

  • EARLY VOTING IN NORTH CAROLINA

  • STARTS IN LESS THAN ONE MONTH.

  • JOHN, WHAT ARE THE POLITICAL

  • IMPLICATIONS OF THE UNREST IN

  • THIS IMPORTANT POLITICAL

  • PRESIDENTIAL BATTLEGROUND?

  • JOHN: AS YOU SAID, IT WILL BE

  • VERY CLOSE.

  • THERE HAS BEEN SHIFTING

  • DEMOGRAPHY THAT HELPS HILLARY

  • CLINTON IN NORTH CAROLINA, AND

  • SOME OF THE POLITICAL CLIMATE

  • THERE HAS HELPED HER TO.

  • THINGS THE STATE HAS

  • DONE THAT HAVE BEEN VERY HARD

  • RIGHT HAVE CREATED A BACKLASH IN

  • URBAN COUNTIES AND ELSEWHERE.

  • SHE SEEMS TO HAVE A SLIGHT

  • ADVANTAGE.

  • THINK THE QUESTION IS, ARE

  • THERE A BUNCH OF GENERALLY

  • REPUBLICAN LEADING VOTERS WHO

  • WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO TRUMP BY

  • HIS LAW AND ORDER MESSAGE AND

  • SEEING THIS UNREST?

  • ON THE OTHER HAND, WILL

  • AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, WHO

  • CLINTON IS TRYING TO DRIVE BIG

  • TURNOUT FROM IS A BIG CITIES IN

  • NORTH CAROLINA, WILL THEIR TURN

  • OUT RISE IN THE FACE OF SOME OF

  • THESE EVENTS?

  • IT COULD GO EITHER WAY.

  • IT IS CLEAR IT WILL HAVE AN

  • EFFECT.

  • MARK: THIS IS A TEST OF WHETHER

  • DONALD TRUMP CAN SIMULTANEOUSLY

  • ,E THE LAW IN ORDER CANDIDATE

  • AND A CANDIDATE WHO CAN REACH

  • OUT TO BE A UNIFYING FIGURE.

  • CLEARLY, HILLARY CLINTON WITH

  • HER CAMPAIGN SLOGAN, "STRONGER

  • HAS EMPHASIZED UNITY

  • MORNING CONFRONTATION.

  • THEY WILL HAVE TO WIN BACK INTO

  • THIS ISSUE, NO MATTER WHAT

  • HAPPENS.

  • I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL

  • ASSUME THAT THIS IS IN SOME WAY

  • BENEFIT TO TRUMP IN THAT STATE.

  • REPUBLICAN STATE AND A

  • LOT OF WAYS, BUT IT IS

  • INCREASINGLY PURPLE.

  • ONE OF HILLARY CLINTON'S BIGGEST

  • CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW IS TURNOUT

  • CHALLENGES.

  • TO MESSAGE IS WELL-SUITED

  • AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN NORTH

  • CAROLINA, AND IF THEY PERCEIVE

  • THAT THE POLICE ARE OUT OF

  • CONTROL, IF THERE IS A SENSE OF

  • INJUSTICE IN THAT COMMUNITY,

  • HILLARY CLINTON'S MESSAGE MIGHT

  • BE THE KIND OF THING THAT

  • CATALYZES THE KIND OF TURNOUT

  • SHE NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, IF

  • SHE IS GOING TO WIN IN NORTH

  • CAROLINA.

  • IT IS A VERY VOLATILE SITUATION,

  • POLITICALLY IN TERMS OF PUBLIC

  • SAFETY.

  • ONE OF THE BIGGEST

  • UNKNOWNS ABOUT THE UPCOMING

  • DEBATE IS DONALD TRUMP'S TONE.

  • JOHN: WILL WE SEE THE

  • UNPREDICTABLE INTEMPERATE HARD

  • EDGED TRUMP, OR ARE WE MORE

  • LIKELY TO SEE A KINDER AND

  • GENTLER TRUMP.

  • SOMETHING LIKE THIS.

  • TO THEMP:

  • AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, TO

  • THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, TO ALL

  • COMMUNITIES, I WANT TO SAY WE'RE

  • GOING TO MAKE IT RIGHT.

  • YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN

  • SPIRIT AND A CERTAIN UNITY.

  • THERE IS NO UNITY.

  • YOU LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF HATRED,

  • THE ROCKS BEING THROWN AND

  • EVERYTHING HAPPENING.

  • IT IS SO SAD TO SEE THAT THIS IS

  • THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA.

  • THERE'S JUST NO UNITY.

  • THERE HAS TO BE A UNITY MESSAGE

  • THAT HAS TO GET OUT.

  • AMERICA DESPERATELY NEEDS UNITY,

  • AND IT NEEDS THE SPIRIT OF

  • TOGETHERNESS THAT IS NOT REALLY

  • ONLY GOT US THERE ARE TOUGHEST

  • , BUT WHICH HAS LIFTED US

  • THAT IN THE PAST TO OUR GREATEST

  • ACHIEVEMENTS AS A NATION.

  • SEE PEOPLE OF

  • DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, WORKING

  • TOGETHER FOR A COMMON GOOD, AND

  • WE NEED TO BRING THAT SPIRIT TO

  • EVERY PART OF OUR COUNTRY.

  • WE ALL HAVE TO WALK A MILE IN

  • SOMEONE ELSE'S SHOES, SAVINGS

  • THROUGH THEIR EYES, AND GET TO

  • -- SEE THINGS THROUGH THEIR

  • EYES, AND GET TO WORK FIXING OUR

  • COUNTRY. WE HAVE SOME REAL

  • PROBLEMS, AND WE DO HAVE A

  • WOUNDED COUNTRY.

  • JOHN: THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP OVER

  • THE PAST 48 HOURS TALKING ABOUT

  • THE LATEST POLICE RELATED

  • SHOOTINGS.

  • HE WAS A CONSISTENTLY

  • TRYING TO STRIKE A SOFTER TONE.

  • CANDIDATES OFTEN USE THE TIME

  • LEADING UP TO A DEBATE TO

  • PRACTICE THE APPROACH THEY PRINT

  • IS ON STAGE.

  • MARK, IF WE SEE A MORE SUBDUED

  • TRUMP AT HOFSTRA ON MONDAY, THE

  • KIND OF TRUCK WE SAW IN THAT

  • TAPE ON HAVE YOU WILL PLAY OUT

  • IN -- FOR HIM?

  • I THINK IT'S HIS BEST

  • GAMBIT.

  • IF TRUMP CAN SUSTAIN THAT OVER

  • 90 MINUTES, IT WILL BRING DOWN

  • HILLARY CLINTON A LITTLE BIT.

  • I THINK INSIDERS IN THE MEDIA

  • AND POLITICS OVERSTATE THE

  • EXTENT TO WHICH VOTERS PAY THAT

  • MUCH ATTENTION.

  • TRUMP CAN LEAVE A STRONG

  • IMPRESSION, AND WHAT PEOPLE

  • FIGHT IS AS PERFORMANCE AND TO

  • GO.

  • I HEART BACK TO THE TOWN HALL HE

  • DID WITH ANDERSON COOPER AND HIS

  • FAMILY AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF

  • THAT KIND OF MODE.

  • IF TRUMP DOES THAT, IT WILL BE

  • EFFECTIVE.

  • SUSTAINING AT OVER 90 MINUTES IS

  • NOT AS BIG A CHALLENGE AS PEOPLE

  • MAKE IT OUT TO BE.

  • TRUMP HAS SHOWN HE IS NOT ALWAYS

  • THE MOST DISCIPLINED.

  • JOHN: I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT IT

  • WILL NOT BE HIS GOAL TO TRY TO

  • STRIKE THAT TONE.

  • WHETHER HE WILL BE ABLE TO

  • SUSTAIN THAT TONE WHEN HE STARTS

  • GETTING HIT AND ATTACKED BY

  • HILLARY CLINTON -- AND YOU KNOW

  • SHE IS GOING TO.

  • SHE IS GOING TO TAKE HIM ON.

  • AT A MINIMUM, SHE WILL TAKE HIM

  • ON IN A HARD-EDGED WAY ON POLICY

  • MATTERS, AS THAT WILL PROVOKE

  • HIM AND MAYBE THE THING THAT

  • KEEPS THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO

  • MAINTAIN THAT KIND OF

  • SEMI-ANGELIC NON-TRUMP TONE.

  • HE IS NOT GOOD AT SAYING, THOSE

  • SITUATIONS.

  • THAT IS FINE THINK IT WILL BE

  • TOUGH FOR HIM.

  • MARK: THERE IS THIS CONSENSUS

  • THAT THIS IS WHAT HE SHOULD DO.

  • CONSENSUS THAT IT

  • WOULD PUT HIM IN A STRONG

  • POSITION AND MAKE THINGS TOUGH

  • FOR HER.

  • THERE IS A DISAGREEMENT ABOUT,

  • CAN HE DO IT OR NOT.

  • I HAVE NOT SEEN THESE SORT OF

  • CIRCUMSTANCES.

  • JONATHAN HILLARY CLINTON HAS HER

  • OWN STYLISTIC PRICES TO MAKE AN

  • ADVANCE OF MONDAY'S DEBATE.

  • THERE SEEM TO BE TOO GENERAL

  • SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT ON WHAT

  • CLINTON COULD DO.

  • WHAT IS THAT SHE SHOULD AVOID

  • SPARRING WITH TRUMP AT ALL

  • COSTS, NOT BEEN DONE IN THE MUD

  • WITH THEM AND TURN THE OTHER

  • CHEEK AND FOCUS ON POLICY.

  • THE OTHER OPTION SHE HAS, WHICH

  • SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE SHE MUST DO

  • IS TO TAKE TRUMP DOWN,

  • FORCEFULLY AND REPEATEDLY.

  • THE SECOND APPROACH

  • SAY IT WOULD BE POLITICAL

  • SUICIDE.

  • THE EVIDENCE THEY POINT TO, THAT

  • ALL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL

  • CANDIDATES WHO TANGLED WITH

  • TRUMP AND TRIED TO TAKE A MONTH

  • DID NOT WITH DETAILED BEST TO

  • TELL THE TALE.

  • -- WHERE DO ON THIS

  • YOU STAND ON THIS?

  • JOHN: THERE WAS A SCHOOL OF

  • THOUGHT AROUND PRESIDENT GOING

  • INTO THE FIRST DEBATE WITH MITT

  • ROMNEY.

  • IT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE THE FIRST

  • OPTION YOU JUST LAID OUT, WHICH

  • WAS DON'T FIGHT, DON'T ENGAGE,

  • JUST TALK ABOUT YOUR VISION FOR

  • THE COUNTRY.

  • THAT CAUSED OBAMA TO BE

  • BEPLACENT, HE CAUSED THEM TO

  • VERBOSE, TO NOT ENGAGE WITH

  • ROMNEY AND TO GET HIS CLOCK

  • CLEANED IN DENVER.

  • I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT

  • APPROACH FOR HILLARY CLINTON.

  • I DON'T THINK SHE SHOULD ATTACK

  • TRUMP PERSONALLY, BUT I THINK ON

  • MATTERS OF SUBSTANCE, SHE WOULD

  • BE FOOLISH NOT TO TRY TO PRESS

  • AND IN AN AGGRESSIVE WAY ON

  • MATTERS OF SUBSTANCE AND POLICY.

  • I KNOW EVERYBODY IS

  • EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEBATE, BUT

  • STATE TRUMP GOES IN AND GOES FOR

  • GENIAL GRANDPA AND CLINTON GOES

  • FOR TURN THE OTHER CHEEK, THIS

  • COULD BE A 90 MINUTE SNOOZE BEST

  • -- SNOOZEFEST.

  • I THINK WHAT SHE WILL DO IS TRY

  • TO TALK ABOUT HERSELF, GET IN

  • LITTLE SNIDE ASIDES WITH TRUMP

  • AND LEAVE HIM WITH THE CHOICE

  • ABOUT WHETHER TO RESPOND IN KIND

  • OR NOT, DELIVERED WITH HUMOR.

  • FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, SHE

  • GETS THE FACT THAT HER BEST BET

  • IS TO DO THINGS THE WAY GEORGE

  • BUSH, BILL CLINTON, AND BARACK

  • OBAMA WERE MASTERFUL AT DOING,

  • GETTING IN YOUR SHOTS, BUT DOING

  • SO IN A WAY THAT SEEMS

  • LIGHTHEARTED.

  • JOHN: DEFENSE, BUT WHAT HAPPENS

  • ON THE DEBATE STAGE IS WHERE THE

  • CANDIDATES REALLY FEEL ABOUT

  • EACH OTHER COMES OUT.

  • ONE OF THE THINGS WE AGREE

  • ABOUT, SHE THINKS TRUMP DOES NOT

  • KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE WORLD, HE

  • DOESN'T REALLY QUALIFY.

  • I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE IS NOT GOING

  • TO TRY TO DRAW OUT HIS -- WHAT

  • SHE SEES AS HIS IGNORANCE ON

  • THOSE MATTERS.

  • WHAT WHEN WE COME BACK,

  • WISCONSIN MEANS FOR DONALD SIMS

  • AND VISIONS, AND YOUR WEAKEN

  • TRAVELING WEATHER, RIGHT AFTER

  • THIS.

  • EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT

  • A SLEW OF NEW BATTLEGROUND POLLS

  • OUT THE LAST 24 HOURS.

  • THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES COME

  • FROM THE GREAT STATE OF NEW

  • HAMPSHIRE.

  • WE TALKED ABOUT DONALD TRUMP

  • VERY NARROW PATH TO VICTORY.

  • THERE IS A NEW POLL THAT

  • SUGGESTS A PRETTY BIG BARRIER TO

  • JUMP GETTING TO 270 ELECTORAL

  • VOTES.

  • THAT SURVEY SHOWS CLINTON UP

  • NINE POINTS OVER TRUMP.

  • -- IF SHECLUDE THAT

  • CAN KEEP THAT MARGIN IN NEW

  • HAMPSHIRE, TRUMP'S CHANCES GET

  • LOWER.

  • GIVE TRUMP A LOSS IN

  • PENNSYLVANIA, WHERE POLLS SHOW

  • HE IS DOWN OUTSIDE THE MARGIN OF

  • ERROR.

  • MOST PUBLIC POLLS SHOW TRUMP

  • LEADING, OR CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE

  • CAROLINA,N IN NORTH

  • FLORIDA, AND OHIO.

  • SADIE WINS THOSE AND KEEPS ALL

  • THE STATES MITT ROMNEY ONE FOUR

  • YEARS AGO, THAT GETS INTO 253

  • ELECTORAL VOTES.

  • FROM THERE, THINGS GET TOUGH.

  • HE NEEDS TO WIN NEVADA, WHERE HE

  • IS UP BY FIVE POINTS, AND IOWA

  • WHERE POLLS HAVE SHOWN HIM WITH

  • ANYTHING FROM A SMALL EDGE TO A

  • LARGER EDGE.

  • THAT GETS INTO 265.

  • THAT IS WHERE HE MAY BE HITTING

  • A WALL, EVEN GIVING HIM ALL

  • THOSE BATTLEGROUND STATES.

  • ONE WAY TO GET TO 270 WOULD BE

  • TO WIN NEW HAMPSHIRE'S VOTES AND

  • THE ONE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT

  • IN MAINE.

  • CLINTON IS DOING WELL IN NEW

  • HAMPSHIRE RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING

  • TO MOST RECENT PUBLIC POLLS,

  • INCLUDING THE NEW ONES.

  • WHAT STATE ARE PEOPLE TALKING

  • ABOUT TODAY?

  • WISCONSIN.

  • THAT IS WHERE THE MARQUETTE

  • UNIVERSITY SURVEY COULD BE

  • ANOTHER WAY FOR TRUMP TO GET

  • OVER THE TOP.

  • IT IS A STATE THAT PRESIDENT

  • OBAMA ONE BANG BY ALMOST SEVEN

  • POINTS WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR

  • REELECTION.

  • IF TRUMP COULD PULL OFF THE

  • UPSET IN WISCONSIN, THAT WOULD

  • GIVE HIM 10 MORE ELECTORAL VOTES

  • .

  • THAT WOULD GIVE HIM ENOUGH TO

  • WIN.

  • THAT WOULD GIVE HIM 275

  • ELECTORAL VOTES AND HE WOULD BE

  • THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

  • STATES.

  • JOHN, IS THAT WISCONSIN SCENARIO

  • A LEGIT ONE?

  • IT'S LEGIT.

  • STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED.

  • WE KNOW THERE ARE REPUBLICANS IN

  • WISCONSIN.

  • IT IS NOT A STRAIGHT WEDNESDAY,

  • BUT AT THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL IT

  • HAD BEEN BLUE FOR QUITE A LONG

  • TIME.

  • IN THEEMBER, WISCONSIN

  • REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, THAT IS

  • WHERE TED CRUZ WON BECAUSE MOST

  • OF THE ESTABLISHMENT WAS

  • ANTI-TRUMP.

  • IF I WERE DONALD TRUMP AND THE

  • ONLY BACK AGAIN TO 270 ELECTORAL

  • VOTES WAS BY WINNING WISCONSIN

  • AND DOING ALL THE OTHER THINGS

  • YOU SAID HE HAD TO DO, I WOULD

  • NOT BE READY TO GIVE UP ENTIRELY

  • YET, BUT I WOULD THINK I WAS

  • PROBABLY IN PRETTY SERIOUS

  • TROUBLE.

  • THEIR POLLSLE OF

  • SHOW VIRGINIA CLOSER, BUT

  • CLINTON SOME OF A DECENTLY.

  • EIGHT DECENTLY.

  • TRUMP COULD BE PLAYING IN THE

  • NEW HAMPSHIRE MAINE COMBINATION,

  • IN THE COLORADO COMBINATION, IN

  • THE WISCONSIN COMBINATION, BUT

  • THOSE ARE ALL STATES WHERE YOU

  • WOULD BET ON CLINTON.

  • HE IS GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE

  • HE IS TANTALIZINGLY CLOSE FOR

  • DONALD TRUMP TO BE A 270, BUT IT

  • IS STILL NOT CLEAR HOW TO

  • IDENTIFY HIS LEADING CAP TO 270.

  • JOHN: IT IS GETTING

  • TANTALIZINGLY CLOSE TO HIM

  • HAVING A PATH, BUT THAT PATH

  • STILL INVOLVED IN WINNING OHIO,

  • NORTH CAROLINA, AND FLORIDA.

  • AT LEAST IN NORTH CAROLINA AND

  • FLORIDA, HE IS NOT EVEN AHEAD.

  • THOSE ARE TOSSUP STATES RIGHT

  • NOW.

  • HE SEEMS A LITTLE AHEAD IN OHIO,

  • BUT HE STILL HAS TO RUN THE

  • TABLE.

  • NEEDS AKEEP SAYING HE

  • NATIONAL PUSH, OR HE WILL NOT BE

  • ABLE TO DO IT.

  • HE COULD GET A NATIONAL PUSH AS

  • EARLY AS MONDAY.

  • UP NEXT, WE BRING IN REVEREND AL

  • SHARPTON TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS

  • GOING ON IN NORTH CAROLINA,

  • OKLAHOMA, AND NATIONALLY AFTER

  • THIS.

  • JOHN: WE'RE JOINED BY THE

  • REVEREND AL SHARPTON, THE HOST

  • OF POLITICS NATION ON MSNBC,

  • SUNDAYS AT 8:00 A.M.

  • THE BREAKING NEWS IS THAT THE

  • POLICE OFFICER THAT HE SHALL BE

  • IS GETTING CHARGED WITH

  • MANSLAUGHTER IN THE TERENCE

  • CRUTCHER SHOOTING.

  • WHAT IS YOUR REACTION?

  • THET IS A SWIFT STEP IN

  • RIGHT DIRECTION IN THE PURSUIT

  • OF JUSTICE, AND I THINK THAT

  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEOTAPE,

  • THERE IS CLEARLY ENOUGH PROBABLE

  • CAUSE WHERE WE WILL SEE WHAT

  • HAPPENS AT TRIAL -- AT TRIAL.

  • THE FAMILY CAME TO THE

  • HEADQUARTERS OF NATIONAL ACTION

  • NETWORK AND HAD A PRESS

  • CONFERENCE.

  • WE SAID WE WOULD BE RALLYING

  • THIS WEEKEND, CALLING FOR

  • JUSTICE.

  • I WILL BE GOING TO PULL THE TO

  • JOIN THE FAMILY NEXT WEEK.

  • I WANT TO SEE AN EXAMINATION OF

  • THE OFFICERS THAT WERE WITH THE

  • POLICEWOMAN THAT HAS BEEN

  • CHARGED, WHETHER THERE IS ANY

  • DISCIPLINARY OR LEGAL EXPOSURE

  • THERE.

  • YOU CAN'T TRUST THIS WITH THESE

  • LOPEZ OF THE RELEASE OF TAPES IN

  • CHARLOTTE, AND THE FACT THAT WE

  • STILL HAVE NO RELEASE OF TAPES

  • TO THE PUBLIC.

  • WE HAVE SEEN THE FAMILIES GOING

  • IN, AND THE FAMILY ATTORNEYS SAY

  • LET'S SEE WHAT IS THERE.

  • WHEN YOU CAN CONTRAST TOLD THE

  • CHARGING THE POLICE,

  • AND IT IS NOT HAPPENING IN

  • CHARLOTTE, THAT EXACERBATES A

  • LOT OF ATTENTION, AND MAKE -- A

  • LOT OF THE ATTENTION, AND MAKE

  • PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE HIDING

  • SOMETHING.

  • THE IRONY IS THAT IT IS A BLACK

  • OFFICER AND SOME BLACK

  • LEADERSHIP IN THE POLICE

  • DEPARTMENT IN CHARLOTTE.

  • IT IS AN INSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM,

  • AS WELL AS A RACE PROBLEM WITH

  • POLICING.

  • MARK: WHAT CAN BE DONE TO LOWER

  • THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE IN THE

  • PROTESTS IN NORTH CAROLINA?

  • REVERAND SHARPTON: I THINK

  • TRANSPARENCY.

  • I THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE FEEL

  • THEY ARE GETTING THE FACTS, NO

  • MATTER WHAT THEY MAY BE, THAT

  • THE LEVEL OF ANXIETY IS LOWERED.

  • TODAY WHATN THEY SEE

  • HAS HAPPENED IN TULSA AND WHAT

  • IS NOW HAPPENING IN CHARLOTTE,

  • WITH EVEN OFFICERS OF THEIR OWN

  • KIND, BUT THEY ARE CLEARLY

  • INSTITUTIONALLY REACTING

  • DIFFERENTLY IN BLACK

  • NEIGHBORHOODS THAN WHITE.

  • I THINK IT INCREASES THE FIRST

  • STATION AND -- THE FRUSTRATION

  • AND ANXIETY.

  • WHEN ONE OF THESE HORRIBLE

  • SHOOTINGS OCCURRED, IT IS A

  • TRAGEDY AND WE FOCUS ON THE

  • VICTIMS, BUT SINCE WE HAVE BEEN

  • DEALING WITH THIS FOR MONTHS,

  • WHAT DO YOU SEE HAPPENING AT THE

  • FEDERAL, STATE, OR LOCAL LEVEL

  • THAT ENCOURAGES YOU TO TRY TO

  • DEAL WITH THESE SITUATIONS

  • BEFORE THEY OCCUR?

  • REVERAND SHARPTON: I THINK WHEN

  • I LOOK AT THE PRESIDENT'S

  • COMMISSION ON POLICING, HE HAS

  • MET WITH MANY OF THE CIVIL

  • RIGHTS LEADERS AND ACTIVISTS,

  • AND FORMED THIS COMMISSION.

  • ARE TOE RECOMMENDATIONS

  • BE FOLLOWED, I THINK WE CAN MAKE

  • PROGRESS.

  • I HOPE IT IS AT THE CENTER OF

  • ONE OF THE SEGMENTS OF THE

  • DEBATE MONDAY NIGHT, TO SEE IF

  • MRS. CLINTON OR MR. TRUMP WILL

  • COMMIT THAT THEY WILL UPHOLD

  • THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEY

  • WILL RECOMMEND TO LAW

  • ENFORCEMENT AROUND THE COUNTRY,

  • AND TRANSLATE IT INTO LAW.

  • WE HAVE NOT SEEN A MOVEMENT IN

  • THIS AREA.

  • EVEN RYAN HAS BEEN STALLING ON

  • BRINGING ABOUT THE SENTENCING

  • REFORM BILL, WHICH IS

  • BIPARTISAN.

  • WE -- WE WILL CONTINUE

  • THIS CONVERSATION, WHEN WE COME

  • BACK.

  • JOHN: WE'RE BACK WITH REVEREND

  • AL SHARPTON, TALKING ABOUT THE

  • TERRIBLE EVENTS OF THIS WEEK.

  • I WENT TO PICK UP ABOUT

  • SOMETHING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT

  • IN THE LAST BLOCK, WHICH RELATES

  • TO THE VIDEOTAPE.

  • YOU THINK THE VIDEOTAPE IN THE

  • CHARLOTTE SHOOTING SHOULD BE

  • RELEASED.

  • ITERAND SHARPTON: I THINK

  • SHOULD BE RELEASED.

  • I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN

  • RELEASED IMMEDIATELY, AND I

  • THINK THIS IS THE CASE AROUND

  • THE COUNTRY.

  • I KNOW THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE

  • FAMILY AND CHARLOTTE IS TAKING A

  • MORE CAUTIOUS YOU.

  • I THINK WHEN THE PUBLIC FEELS

  • THERE IS TRANSPARENCY, THAT IS

  • THE IDEA OF SAYING WE WANT BODY

  • CAMERAS, SO THE PUBLIC WILL BE

  • ABLE TO SEE.

  • IT PROTECTS THE POLICE, IF IN

  • FACT THE POLICE HAVE DONE

  • NOTHING THAT IS QUESTIONABLE.

  • JOHN: I THINK IT REMOVE THE

  • ELEMENT OF VOLATILITY AND

  • SUSPICIONS YOU WERE TALKING

  • ABOUT BEFORE.

  • THE SUSPICIONS FREE VOLATILITY

  • WE SAW ON THE STREET LAST NIGHT.

  • DAMNING,HE VIDEO IS

  • HAVING IT OUT THERE LESSENS THE

  • CHANCES --

  • REVERAND SHARPTON: I DON'T

  • CONDONE VIOLENCE, BUT WE

  • UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION,

  • WHICH MAY ALSO NOW REACH A

  • DIFFERENT KIND OF CONVERSATION.

  • I CAN SEESURCHARGING,

  • PEOPLE IN CHARLOTTE SAYING WAIT

  • A MINUTE, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM?

  • THE TAPE WERE RELEASED,

  • AND IT WERE TO SHOW MR. SCOTT

  • HOLDING A GUN AS POLICE HAVE

  • CLAIMED, HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE

  • THE NARRATIVE?

  • REVERAND SHARPTON: I THINK IT

  • CHANGES THE NARRATIVE THAT A LOT

  • OF PEOPLE WILL SAY FINE, THERE

  • IS NOTHING HERE, BUT THERE IS

  • STILL AN INSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM,

  • BUT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST CASE

  • IN CHARLOTTE.

  • SOME WILL, NO MATTER WHAT

  • HAPPENS, BE ANGRY BECAUSE OF THE

  • DELAY, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT

  • WITH THEMSELVES IN A VERY

  • PRECARIOUS POSITION BY NOT

  • COMING WOULD QUICKLY BECAUSE NOW

  • , EVERYONE WILL ALWAYS QUESTION

  • WHY IT TOOK SO LONG TO RELEASE

  • THE TAPE.

  • I THINK THESE ARE THE THINGS

  • THAT WE WANT TO HEAR THE

  • CANDIDATES TALK ABOUT,

  • PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE

  • DONALD TRUMP ENTERING STOP AND

  • WHICHINTO THE DIALOGUE,

  • WAS FOUND NOT ONLY BY THOSE OF

  • US THAT LED THE PROTESTS AND

  • MARCHES IN NEW YORK TO GET RID

  • OF STOP AND FIRST, A FEDERAL

  • JUDGE SAID IT WAS DISCRIMINATORY

  • AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN HIS

  • HOMETOWN, AND THIS BECOMES HIS

  • CRIMINAL JUSTICE POLICE

  • POSITION.

  • I WANT TO GO BACK TO A

  • COMMENT YOU MADE, ABOUT IS THIS

  • THE CASE WHERE YOU HAVE A BLACK

  • OFFICER AND A BLACK VICTIM.

  • YOU MADE A POINT THAT THIS IS AN

  • INSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM.

  • AT LEAST, THE RACIAL PROBLEM IS

  • SUBSUMED.

  • SAY MORE ABOUT THAT.

  • THINK THEHARPTON: I

  • INSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM IS YOU SET

  • UP WHERE POLICE ARE SEEING TO

  • OPERATE, WHERE THEY ARE OUTSIDE

  • OF THE TRANSPARENCY AND SCRUTINY

  • THAT GIVES THE COMMUNITY

  • ,ONFIDENCE THAT THEY ARE THERE

  • NOT THERE AS SOME OCCUPIED

  • FORCE, BLACK OR WHITE.

  • THEY HAVE THIS BLUE WALL OF

  • SILENCE THAT WE ARE GOING TO

  • PROTECT EACH OTHER, RATHER THAN

  • UPHOLD THE LAW.

  • THAT IS AN INSTITUTIONAL

  • PROBLEM.

  • BLACK OPS OPERATE IN BLACK

  • COMMUNITIES DIFFERENTLY THAN

  • THEY DO IN WHITE COMMUNITIES.

  • YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IF THAT

  • SAME BLACK OFFICER THAT KILLED

  • SCOTT, IF HE WAS IN A WHITE AREA

  • -- I DON'TROLINA

  • KNOW IF GOD HAD A GUN OR NOT,

  • BUT LET'S SAY HE DID, WOULD HE

  • NOT SAY TO A WHITE GUY, DO YOU

  • HAVE A PERMIT?

  • I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS

  • THAT LEAD TO A LOT OF THE

  • PROTESTS, AND UNFORTUNATELY TO

  • VIOLENCE.

  • IN TERMS OF THE TERRORIST

  • INSTANCES THAT HAVE HAPPENED

  • ,ERE IN NEW JERSEY AND NEW YORK

  • PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE

  • NOTION THAT THERE IS A SHOOT TO

  • WOUND, AS OPPOSED TO SHOOT TO

  • KILL IN CIRCLE DANCES -- IN

  • CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES.

  • YOU SEE A DICHOTOMY BETWEEN

  • THOSE TWO?

  • POLICEOUT THAT, AND HOW

  • USE THEIR GUNS IN CERTAIN

  • CIRCUMSTANCES.

  • REVERAND SHARPTON: WHEN YOU LOOK

  • INSIDE OF ONE WEEK THAT YOU HAVE

  • IN NEW YORKATTACK

  • AND NEW JERSEY.

  • THIS GUY SHOT AT POLICE, AND

  • THEY WOULD GIVE HIM AND TOOK HIM

  • IN.

  • YOU HAVE A GUY WHO'S CAR BROKE

  • DOWN IN TULSA, HANDS UP, AND HE

  • IS KILLED AFTER BEING TASERED.

  • YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT

  • IS THE POLICE POLICY?

  • WHAT IS BEING DONE IN TRAINING?

  • WHY IS IT DIFFERENT STROKES FOR

  • DIFFERENT FOLKS, AS WE LIKE TO

  • SAY?

  • ONARLY, THE MAN BROUGHT IN

  • ATTACKS IN NEW YORK, CHELSEA,

  • AND NEW JERSEY, WAS A DANGER.

  • HE WAS SHOOTING AT POLICEMAN,

  • AND THEY FOUND A WAY TO BRING

  • HIM IN ALIVE.

  • YOU COULDN'T FIND A WAY TO BRING

  • A MAN ALIVE WHO'S CAR BROKE DOWN

  • , AND YOU HAVE A POLICEMAN IN A

  • HELICOPTER LOOKING DOWN ON A GUY

  • SAYING HE LOOKS LIKE A BAD DUDE.

  • LIKE A BAD DUDE

  • WITH HIS HANDS UP, BUT WAS NOT A

  • BAD DUDE THAT WAS SHOOTING WITH

  • POLICE IN NEW YORK?

  • MANY OF US SEE THAT AS A GRAPHIC

  • EXAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENCE OF HOW

  • PEOPLE TREAT SITUATIONS

  • DIFFERENTLY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT?

  • AHN: DONALD TRUMP ATOP WITH

  • SOFTER TONE ABOUT SOME OF THESE

  • THINGS, BUT IN SOME CASES HE HAS

  • TALKED WITH A LESS SOFT TONE.

  • DRUGSD IN PITTSBURGH THAT

  • HAVE BEEN A BIG FACTOR IN WHAT

  • YOU ARE SEEING ON TELEVISION.

  • HOW DO YOU REACT TO THE NOTION

  • THAT DRUGS HAVE BEEN A BIG

  • FACTOR?

  • REVERAND SHARPTON: I THINK THAT

  • WHEN YOU BRING UP STOP AND

  • FIRST, THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO

  • BE DISCRIMINATORY BY EVEN THE

  • COURTS.

  • A WHITE MALE NAMED BILL DE

  • BLASIO BE A BLACK IN A PRIMARY

  • IN NEW YORK BECAUSE BILL DE

  • BLASIO CAME OUT AGAINST STOP AT

  • FIRST, AND THE BLACK CANDIDATE

  • DIDN'T.

  • HOW MR. TRUMP, WHO LIVES IN NEW

  • YORK AND I ASSUME VOTES HERE,

  • DIDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, IS

  • BEYOND ME.

  • WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT

  • HE BRINGS UP DRUGS, DRUGS WERE A

  • FACTOR WHERE?

  • THERE IS THE ALLEGATION IT'S

  • ALSO THAT THE VICTIM HAD DRUGS

  • IN THE CAR.

  • X-RAY THE POLICEMAN HAD

  • VISION, THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO

  • WITH HIM BEING TASERED OR SHOT?

  • JOHN: I THINK HE IS SUGGESTING

  • THAT DRUGS ARE FEELING THE

  • RIOTING.

  • I'M NOT VALIDATING.

  • REVERAND SHARPTON: BY WHAT

  • EVIDENCE IS HE BRINGING THIS UP,

  • AND IS THIS NOT FITTING INTO

  • -- INTO THEPING

  • STEREOTYPE OF DRUGS AND BLACKS,

  • AND SUPPORTING WHY WE HAVE TO

  • FIRST FROM?

  • THE IRON IS IF HE BRINGS IN STOP

  • AND FIRST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE

  • SHOOTINGS, WHEN THERE WERE NO

  • STOP AND FIRST ISSUES AT ALL.

  • IN CHARLOTTE, THEY STOPPED THIS

  • GUY WITH A BULLET AND FIRST HIM

  • AFTER HE WAS DEAD.

  • THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN IN NEW

  • YORK, STOP AND FIRST HAS GONE

  • DOWN FROM ALMOST 700,000 COPS

  • 220,000, AND CRIME HAS DONE --

  • CRIME HAS GONE DOWN.

  • JOHN: IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO

  • SEE YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR THE

  • WORDS OF WISDOM.

  • ONCK OUT, "POLITICS NATION,"

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  • 99.1 FM.

  • TPP?E YOU DOWN WITH

  • >> I'M NOT DOWN WITH TPP?

  • . TOMMY WHAT TO SAY.

  • ITWHEN YOU SEE HOW WELL

  • WORKS FOR DONALD TRUMP, DO YOU

  • EVER THINK TO YOURSELF, MAYBE I

  • SHOULD BE MORE RACES? -- MORE

  • RACIST?

  • WE SHOULD STAY IN TOUCH.

  • >> YOU'VE GOT MAIL.

  • WE ARE AFTER DAYS AWAY

  • FROM THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL

  • DEBATE, AND HILLARY CLINTON

  • DIDN'T -- HILLARY CLINTON IS

  • TAKING SOME DAYS OFF.

  • THAT TAPE WITH ZACH GALIFIANAKIS

  • WAS RECORDED LAST WEEK.

  • HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE

  • THE FORMERN FOR IS

  • DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN.

  • SHE IS COMING TO US LIVE FROM

  • OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA.

  • GRANHOLM, WE WERE JUST

  • ,ISCUSSING EARLIER ON THE SHOW

  • HILLARY CLINTON, SHOULD SHE GO

  • AFTER DONALD TRUMP, OR SHOULD

  • SHE TALK ABOUT HERSELF?

  • TALKINGHOULD START

  • ABOUT HERSELF, BUT SHE CAN'T LET

  • HIM GET AWAY WITH ATTACKS THAT

  • ARE UNTRUE, OR STATEMENTS THAT

  • ARE COMPLETE BLATANT FALSEHOODS.

  • IF THE MODERATOR DOESN'T STEP UP

  • TO THE PLATE, SHE HAS TO CORRECT

  • THE RECORD, BUT SHE HAS TO DO IT

  • IN A WAY -- SHE CAN DO WITH

  • HUMOR, SHE CAN DO IT WITH A

  • LIGHTER TOUCH, SHE CAN POINT OUT

  • TO THE AUDIENCE, BUT I DO THINK

  • THAT YOU CANNOT LET A FALSEHOOD

  • STAND.

  • JOHN: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT

  • THAT, MIKE?

  • IF YOU WERE DRIVING HILLARY

  • CLINTON -- WERE ADVISING HILLARY

  • CLINTON, WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU

  • GIVE?

  • THE GOVERNOR

  • COMPLETELY.

  • DONALD TRUMP WAS EFFECTIVE WHEN

  • HE WENT AT JEFF BUSH AND TED

  • CRUZ.

  • THEY HAD A HARD TIME RESPONDING,

  • BECAUSE HE ASKED THE DEBATE

  • RULES.

  • I THINK THAT WILL BE THE

  • DIFFICULT PART FOR SECRETARY

  • CLINTON.

  • I AGREE THAT SHE SHOULD STAND UP

  • AND BE AGGRESSIVE BACK.

  • >> I THINK THE MODERATOR IS

  • GOING TO ACT -- ASKED SOME OF

  • THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AGAINST EACH

  • OF THEM, SO THE REAL QUESTION

  • YOU ARE ASKING IS SHOULD SHE

  • ALLOW A FALSEHOOD TO STAND, OR

  • SHOULD SHE AFFIRMATIVELY GO

  • AFTER HIM, WHICH MIGHT BE

  • TERRITORY LIKE FOR EXAMPLE ON

  • THE TOP FOUNDATION, WHICH MIGHT

  • BE TERRITORY THAT THE MODERATOR

  • MIGHT BE GOING AFTER.

  • SHE HAS TO GAUGE WHO SHE WILL

  • ALLOWED TO DO THE ACTUAL DIRECT

  • ATTACKS ON HIM.

  • THINK THE NOTION THAT IF

  • TRUMP DECIDES TO GO AFTER HER IN

  • A HEAD ON THE WAY, WHETHER THAT

  • IS ON HER CHARACTER, ETHICS, OR

  • PERSONALLY, NO ONE WOULD DISPUTE

  • THE RIGHT TACTIC AT THAT POINT

  • IS TO FIGHT BACK.

  • THE QUESTION IS, IF TRUMP

  • DECIDES TO GO BE PRESIDENTIAL

  • GENTLERTO BE A SOFTER,

  • DONALD TRUMP --

  • >> WHICH HE DID.

  • JOHN: RIGHT.

  • WHAT SHOULD SHE DO THEN?

  • >> SHE SHOULD TRY TO LET PEOPLE

  • KNOW HER A LITTLE BIT.

  • SHE IS WINNING BASED ON PEOPLE

  • WHO DON'T LIKE HER AND DON'T

  • TRUST HER.

  • I THINK IF SHE CAN CONTINUE TO

  • SHOW THE COMMAND OF THE ISSUES,

  • IF SHE CAN SHOW HER HUMAN SIDE A

  • LITTLE BIT MORE AND TAKE THE

  • EDGE OFF, I THINK THAT WILL HELP

  • A LOT.

  • >> I CANNOT BELIEVE, WE ARE BOTH

  • AGREEING.

  • I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT.

  • PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY DOUBTS

  • THAT SHE KNOWS THE ISSUES.

  • YOU SAW IN THE POLLS TODAY,

  • PEOPLE SEE HER AS

  • COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF.

  • WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HER TO

  • SHOW THAT LIGHTER SIDE.

  • I HAVE SO GLAD YOU SHOW THAT

  • BETWEEN THE FERNS INTERVIEW

  • BECAUSE SHE HAS GAME.

  • SHE IS TOTALLY GOOD.

  • SHE HAD A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR.

  • IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE HER

  • ENJOY IT, BE A HAPPY WARRIOR.

  • I DON'T KNOW PEOPLE YET IT,

  • PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF YOU AND OTHERS

  • WHO MAY KNOW HER.

  • JOHN: IS THERE A WAY IN THE

  • CONTEXT OF THE DEBATE, WHICH IS

  • INHERENTLY A GLADIATORIAL

  • ENTERPRISE, IS THERE A WAY FOR

  • HER TO DO GOOD FOR HERSELF IN

  • TERMS OF WHAT IS A PROBLEM,

  • WHICH IS THE PERCEPTION THAT SHE

  • IS NOT HONEST AND TRUSTWORTHY,

  • IS THERE SOMETHING SHE COULD DO

  • TO HELP REPAIR HER NEGATIVES IN

  • THIS CONTEXT?

  • >> ABSOLUTELY.

  • THE INTERESTING THING IS, IF YOU

  • WATCH OR READ THE RIGHT WEBSITES

  • , THE ECHO CHAMBERS THAT ARE ON

  • BOTH THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT.

  • PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT HAVE THIS

  • .MAGE OF HER AS THIS DEMON

  • SHE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE BEEN

  • WATCHING HER, AND SHE WILL BE

  • ABLE TO PRESENT HERSELF IN A WAY

  • THAT -- THAT THEY MIGHT BE

  • SURPRISED THAT.

  • THIS IDEA OF HER SHOWING HER

  • HEART, HER SOUL ABOUT WHY SHE IS

  • RUNNING, WHO SHE IS RUNNING FOR.

  • SHE IS RUNNING FOR THEM.

  • IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE DETAILS

  • OF HER POLICIES, IT IS WHY SHE

  • IS THERE, TO SHOW THE REAL HER.

  • I THINK THERE IS A HUGE

  • OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT.

  • FOR: WHAT IS YOUR ADVICE

  • DONALD TRUMP ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD

  • CONDUCT HIMSELF IN ONE OF HIS

  • MAIN GOAL SHOULD BE?

  • >> I WOULD SAY TO SHOW HE HAS

  • SOME CHOPS ON THE POLICY SIDE.

  • PEOPLE WILL SHE SHOULD HAVE A

  • GREAT ADVANTAGE.

  • THAT IS WHERE THE QUESTION WILL

  • BE ON DONALD TRUMP.

  • THIS WILL BE THE FIRST

  • OPPORTUNITY WHERE SHE HAS TO --

  • HE HAS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS

  • ENABLE FORMAT.

  • TO SHOW THAT THE POLICY WILL

  • STRENGTHEN THEM A LOT.

  • THAT, YOUUST SAY ON

  • HAVE SAID BEFORE, AND MARK HAS

  • SAID BEFORE THAT THE BAR FOR HIM

  • -- HE, SO HER CHALLENGE

  • IS A TV STAR, BUT HE DOESN'T

  • KNOW POLICY THAT WILL, OR AT

  • LEAST HE HAS SHOWN THAT.

  • I JUST HOPE AS YOU REVIEW THIS

  • THAT YOU DO NOT ALLOW THAT LOW

  • BAR TO EXIST FOR HIM.

  • THEY SHOULD BE DEALT WITH

  • EVENLY.

  • I NOT GOING TO BOSS YOU

  • AROUND, JOHN.

  • JOHN: I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE

  • ALWAYS HAVE A HIGH BAR FOR

  • GUESTS, AND YOU HAVE CLEARED

  • THAT.

  • DO YOU THINK MODERATOR SHOULD BE

  • FACT CHECKERS?

  • WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT.

  • WILL TALK WITH TO

  • REPORTERS ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE

  • HEARING ABOUT HOW THE CANDIDATES

  • ARE PREPARING FOR THE BIG DEBATE

  • AS OPPOSED TO HOW THEY SHOULD

  • PREPARE.

  • WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK.

  • .

  • BY JENNIFERD

  • EPSTEIN, WHO HAS BEEN BUBBLING

  • HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN, AND

  • NBC CORRESPONDENT KELLY

  • O'DONNELL.

  • KELLY, I WILL START WITH YOU

  • RIGHT NOW.

  • WE HAVE BEEN TALKING DEBATE.

  • HILLARY CLINTON IS OFF THE

  • TRAIL.

  • WHAT DO YOU KNOW?

  • >> THIS IS A WORKDAY ABOUT THE

  • PAPER.

  • SHE IS OFF THE TRAIL AND DOING

  • HER DEBATE PREP YOUR HOME.

  • ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM

  • THE GOVERNOR GIVES US AN IDEA OF

  • WHAT THE CLINTON TEAM ONCE, THEY

  • WANT TO SET THE CONDITIONS

  • BEFORE THE DEBATE, TO A GREAT

  • VOTERS AND ANALYSTS TO WRITE

  • THIS NOT ON A TRIP CURVE.

  • THEY ARGUE HE GETS ONE

  • DIMENSIONAL QUESTIONS, HE GETS

  • EASY QUESTIONS WHEN HE IS

  • INTERVIEWED OR PARTICIPATE IN

  • DEBATES.

  • HE IS NOT HELD TO THE SAME

  • POLICY STANDARDS AND THE SAME

  • FACT STANDARDS.

  • THERE IS A SMALL GROUP OF

  • CLINTON OFFICIALS WHO ARE WITH

  • HER, WHO ARE A PART OF THIS.

  • READING AND

  • STUDYING PERP, AS WELL AS

  • REAL-TIME MOCK DEBATE DRESS

  • REHEARSAL PREP.

  • IT IS A CLOSELY GUARDED SECRET

  • HOW ALL OF THAT IS GOING.

  • SOME OF HER CLOSE FRIENDS OF THE

  • PARTY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS

  • HAPPENING INSIDE THE ROOM, OR AT

  • LEAST SAY THEY DON'T IN TERMS OF

  • WHO THEY HAVE FOUND TO PLAY

  • DONALD TRUMP.

  • OF PEOPLEA NUMBER

  • STEPPED FORWARD, OFFERING TO

  • PLAY DONALD TRUMP FOR HER, BUT

  • WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE IDENTITY

  • IS ABOUT WHO IS PLAYING THAT AND

  • ACTING AS THE MODERATOR.

  • PART OF THE PROCESS HAS BEEN

  • GOING THROUGH THINGS THEY

  • ANTICIPATE, AND PREPARING FOR

  • DIFFERENT TRUMPS.

  • WILL IT BE THE BOMBASTIC TRUMP,

  • WILL IT BE THE CUTTING, CROOKED

  • HILLARY TRUMP, WILLOUGHBY TRUMP

  • TRYING TO BE MORE STATESMANLIKE?

  • THEY HAVE LIVED IN HIS

  • PERFORMANCE IN TERMS TO HANG

  • BACK AND HIT HIS MOMENTS.

  • JOHN: I THINK IT WILL BE HIGHLY

  • CHAPLIN TRUMP.

  • YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS PLAYING

  • TRUMP, DO YOU?

  • >> I WISH I DID.

  • MOMENT WHERE THERE IS

  • OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF EXPECTATION

  • ON BOTH SIDES.

  • THE CLINTON PEOPLE ACKNOWLEDGE

  • THAT SHE IS GOING TO -- THEY

  • BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL PERFORM

  • WELL.

  • JENNIFER PALMERI SAID THAT THE

  • PLANES WHILE THE PRESS

  • YESTERDAY.

  • THEY DO WANT THIS TO BE JUDGED

  • FAIRLY.

  • THEY DO WANT A LOTTERY TO STEP

  • IN AND BE TOUGH ON TRUMP, AND

  • NOT JUST TOUGH ON HER BECAUSE

  • SHE HAS MORE OF A RECORD, WHICH

  • IS WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE

  • VETERANS TOWNHALL A COUPLE WEEKS

  • AGO.

  • THAT IS A CONCERN THAT THEY

  • HAVE, AND I GAVE THEM THE CHANCE

  • TO SAY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE

  • TRUMP IS ASKED THE SAME KINDS OF

  • QUESTIONS AS SECRETARY CLINTON.

  • THE SAME TIME, I THINK THERE

  • IS A DYNAMIC OF WHO IS GOING TO

  • DO THE FACT CHECKING?

  • WILLOUGHBY LESTER HOLT AS A

  • MODERATOR, OR WILL IT BE

  • SECRETARY CLINTON SAYING TO

  • TRUMP, YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING

  • THAT IS WRONG, AND IF THEY GET

  • INTO A FACTUAL BACK-AND-FORTH.

  • JOHN: THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO

  • DO THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE,

  • WHICH IS TO TRY TO SAY TO US AS

  • REPORTERS, THERE HAVE BEEN A

  • DOUBLE STANDARD, YOU NEED TO

  • RAISE THE BAR ON TRUMP.

  • DO THEY THINK THEY HAVE BEEN

  • SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL IN TRYING TO

  • DO THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE

  • WEEKS?

  • >> I THINK THEY DO.

  • I THINK THEY THINK REPORTERS

  • WILL BE EMBARRASSED IF THEY SAY

  • THAT TRUMP WON JUST BECAUSE HE

  • DIDN'T FOLLOW HIS FACE, WHICH I

  • DON'T THINK HE WILL BASKETBALL

  • ON HIS FACE, WHICH I DON'T THINK

  • HE WILL.

  • WHEN THEY LOOK BACK ON THE

  • POLICY SPEECHES, THERE HAVE BEEN

  • REVIEWS FROM PUNDITS SAYING HE

  • DID WELL, JUST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T

  • GO OFF SCRIPT.

  • MCCURRYTHOUGHT TO MIKE

  • LAST NIGHT IN WASHINGTON DC, AND

  • HE WAS VERY UP FRONT.

  • HE SAID I DON'T THINK THAT

  • MODERATORS SHOULD BE FACT

  • CHECKERS.

  • I THINK THEY SHOULD BE UP TO THE

  • STANDARD THAT CHRIS WALLACE HAS

  • SET.

  • OTHER.ECKING THE

  • DO YOU THINK HILLARY CLINTON CAN

  • PLAY THAT ROLE ONSTAGE?

  • IS READY FORE

  • THAT, BUT SHE WOULD LIKE SOME

  • HELP FROM THE MODERATOR.

  • MODERATORS HAVE

  • BEEN KEEPING TIME, ASKING

  • QUESTIONS, BECAUSE OFTEN THE

  • FACT CHECKING IS OPEN TO

  • INTERPRETATION.

  • IT IS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE VIEW THE

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