Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles IT IS THE LATEST WORD IS UNDER THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, AND ONE MAJOR STORY IS DOMINATING THE NATIONAL NEWS. CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. THE SECOND NIGHT OF VIOLENT PROTESTS AFTER THE POLICE SHOOTING OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN ON TUESDAY. TODAY, SALADS CHIEF OF POLICE SAID THE VIDEO OF THE SHOOTING SUPPORTS THE OFFICER'S VERSION OF EVENTS, BUT DOES NOT DEFINITELY SHOW SCOTT POINTING A GUN AT POLICE. THE CITY REFUSES TO RELEASE FOOTAGE TO THE PUBLIC, BUT INTENDS TO SHOW STOCKS FAMILY. ALWAYS FOLLOWED ANOTHER CHAOTIC NATIVE GUNFIRE AND TEAR GAS IN CHARLOTTE'S CITY CENTER. NORTH CAROLINA GOVERNOR HAS DECLARED A STATE OF EMERGENCY, THE NATIONAL GUARD HAS BEEN DEPLOYED, AND LORETTA LYNCH IS SENDING DOJ OFFICERS HELP POLICE. POLICE RELATED SHOOTINGS HAVE BEEN ONE OF THE MOST EXPLOSIVE ISSUES IN AMERICAN SOCIETY FOR IS ANST FEW YEARS, AND IT ISSUE THAT BOTH PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES HAVE JUST ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL. HERE'S DONALD TRUMP, SPEAKING TODAY. MR. TRUMP: MANY AMERICANS ARE WATCHING THE UNREST IN CHARLOTTE UNFOLDING RIGHT BEFORE THEIR EYES ON THE TV SCREENS. OTHERS ARE WITNESSING THE CHAOS AND VIOLENCE FIRSTHAND. OUR COUNTRY LOOKS BAD TO THE WORLD, ESPECIALLY WHEN WE ARE SUPPOSED TO BE THE WORLD LEADER. HOW CAN WE LEAD WHEN WE CAN'T EVEN CONTROL OUR OWN CITIES? WE HONOR AND RECOGNIZE THE RIGHT OF ALL AMERICANS TO PEACEFULLY ASSEMBLE, PROTEST, AND DEMONSTRATE, BUT THERE IS NO RIGHT TO ENGAGE IN VIOLENT DISRUPTION. AS MESSAGES WERE DECIDEDLY MIXED TODAY. AT TIMES THEY DISPLAYED AT THE DEEPER THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, AND IN OTHER TIMES FROM SAID HE WOULD GET TOUGH ON CRIME AND SUGGESTED THAT DRUGS WERE A VERY BIG FACTOR IN THE VIOLENCE AMERICANS ARE SEEING ON THEIR TELEVISIONS EVERY NIGHT. HILLARY CLINTON WAS ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL TODAY, BUT YESTERDAY CALLED THE REASON POLICE SHOOTINGS, "UNBEARABLE AND INTOLERABLE." MARK, THESE ISSUES ARE SURE TO COME UP IN THE DEBATE ON MONDAY. IN TERMS OF POLITICS AND POLICY ON THIS TOPIC, WHERE DO THE CANDIDATES STAND AT THIS POINT, AND WHAT DO YOU THINK THE DEBATE BETWEEN THEM IS LIKELY TO LOOK LIKE? NEWS TODAY,EAKING THE DISTRICT ATTORNEY IN TULSA, OKLAHOMA CHARGED OFFICER BETTY SHALL BE WITH MANSLAUGHTER. SHE IS THE OFFICER WHO SHOT TERENCE CRUTCHER, WHICH PRECEDED THE CHARLOTTE EVENT, BUT SUPERCHARGED THE REACTION THERE. THAT WILL BE MUCH DISCUSSED OVER THE COMING DAYS. CHARLOTTE PROBABLY WILL REMAIN THE CENTER OF ATTENTION BECAUSE THAT CASE IS STILL PLAYING OUT AND THERE ARE STILL SOME QUESTIONS ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED, AND THE VIDEO BEING SHOWN ONLY TO THE FAMILY WILL CREATE CONTROVERSY. THIS IS AN ISSUE THAT BOTH CAMPAIGNS HAVE SURRENDERED TWO, RECOGNIZING JUST A MOMENT OF LEADERSHIP THEY NEED TO STEP UP TO, BUT IF THEY DON'T TALK ABOUT THIS, IT WILL LIKELY KEEP THEM OUT OF THE NEWS. HOWARD CLINTON IS DOWN BETWEEN NOW AND THE DEBATE ON TUESDAY. SHE DID NOT, TODAY, BUT DID SHE DOES HAVE POLICIES ON THIS, MOSTLY INVOLVING MORE WASHINGTON SPENDING TO TRY TO CREATE PROGRAMS ON BEST PRACTICES AND THINGS LIKE THAT. HAS NOT BEEN VERY SPECIFIC. I THINK THIS WILL BE LESS ABOUT WHO IS PROPOSING WHAT SPECIFIC, AND MORE ABOUT WHO SEEMS TO BE STEPPING UP TO BE READY COME JANUARY TO DEAL WITH WHAT IS SURE TO BE A LINGERING AND PERSISTENT ISSUE FOR THE COUNTRY. HILLARY CLINTON IS RELATIVELY EASY TO EXPLAIN WHERE SHE IS. SHE HAS MADE, BUT BECAUSE OF THE POLICY PROPOSALS AND HER RHETORICAL POSTURE, WHICH IS FOCUSED TO A LARGER ON ENDEMIC RACISM AND RACIAL BIAS IN POLICE FORCES, AND HER POSITION ON GUN VIOLENCE. SHE HAS A RELATIVELY CONSISTENT POSITION. DONALD TRUMP HAS BEEN TRYING TO WALK A TIGHTROPE. A SPIRIT OFD ABOUT TOGETHERNESS, TALKED ABOUT THE NEED TO WALK A MILE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S SHOES AND SEE THINGS IN THEIR EYES AND FIX OUR WOUNDED COUNTRY. LAST NIGHT AT ONE POINT, HE TALKED ABOUT STOP AND FIRST AS A POTENTIAL SOLUTION. HE SAYS THAT ASSIST IN CHICAGO, THE CLEVELAND. THIS INCENDIARY COMMENT ABOUT DRUGS BEING A PART OF WHAT IS GOING ON IN THESE CITIES, HE IS TRYING TO STAY OUT OF THE RACIAL MINEFIELD, BUT AT THE SAME TIME HE STILL WANTS TO BE THE LAW AND ORDER CANDIDATE. HILLARY CLINTON IS CONSISTENT. CAP IS RIGHT NOW TRYING TO HAVE IT BOTH WAYS, AND THAT MIGHT NOT WORK THAT WELL FOR HIM ON THE DEBATE STAGE. FOCUSTHE LATEST NATIONAL ON THE TRAGEDY OF A POLICE SHOOTING OF AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN MAN IS OCCURRING IN THE MIDST OF THE ENDGAME OF THIS PRESIDENTIAL CONTEST. IT IS AN EVENT THAT HAPPENED IN CHARLOTTE, NORTH CAROLINA. NATIONAL NEWSE CREWS BACK UP AND GO HOME, THIS SHOOTING OF A PROTEST ARE SURE TO LINGER IN THAT STATE FROM NOW UNTIL ELECTION DAY. NORTH CAROLINA IS ONE OF THE BIG THREE BATTLEGROUND STATES THAT WILL PLAY A BIG ROLE IN PICKING THE NEXT PRESIDENT. IT IS THE ONLY STATE BARACK ITMA WON IN 2008, BUT LOST 2012. HE LOST THE TAR HEEL STATE BY ABOUT 100,000 VOTES TO MITT ROMNEY. EARLY VOTING IN NORTH CAROLINA STARTS IN LESS THAN ONE MONTH. JOHN, WHAT ARE THE POLITICAL IMPLICATIONS OF THE UNREST IN THIS IMPORTANT POLITICAL PRESIDENTIAL BATTLEGROUND? JOHN: AS YOU SAID, IT WILL BE VERY CLOSE. THERE HAS BEEN SHIFTING DEMOGRAPHY THAT HELPS HILLARY CLINTON IN NORTH CAROLINA, AND SOME OF THE POLITICAL CLIMATE THERE HAS HELPED HER TO. THINGS THE STATE HAS DONE THAT HAVE BEEN VERY HARD RIGHT HAVE CREATED A BACKLASH IN URBAN COUNTIES AND ELSEWHERE. SHE SEEMS TO HAVE A SLIGHT ADVANTAGE. THINK THE QUESTION IS, ARE THERE A BUNCH OF GENERALLY REPUBLICAN LEADING VOTERS WHO WOULD BE ATTRACTED TO TRUMP BY HIS LAW AND ORDER MESSAGE AND SEEING THIS UNREST? ON THE OTHER HAND, WILL AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS, WHO CLINTON IS TRYING TO DRIVE BIG TURNOUT FROM IS A BIG CITIES IN NORTH CAROLINA, WILL THEIR TURN OUT RISE IN THE FACE OF SOME OF THESE EVENTS? IT COULD GO EITHER WAY. IT IS CLEAR IT WILL HAVE AN EFFECT. MARK: THIS IS A TEST OF WHETHER DONALD TRUMP CAN SIMULTANEOUSLY ,E THE LAW IN ORDER CANDIDATE AND A CANDIDATE WHO CAN REACH OUT TO BE A UNIFYING FIGURE. CLEARLY, HILLARY CLINTON WITH HER CAMPAIGN SLOGAN, "STRONGER HAS EMPHASIZED UNITY MORNING CONFRONTATION. THEY WILL HAVE TO WIN BACK INTO THIS ISSUE, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS. I THINK SOME PEOPLE WILL ASSUME THAT THIS IS IN SOME WAY BENEFIT TO TRUMP IN THAT STATE. REPUBLICAN STATE AND A LOT OF WAYS, BUT IT IS INCREASINGLY PURPLE. ONE OF HILLARY CLINTON'S BIGGEST CHALLENGES RIGHT NOW IS TURNOUT CHALLENGES. TO MESSAGE IS WELL-SUITED AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTERS IN NORTH CAROLINA, AND IF THEY PERCEIVE THAT THE POLICE ARE OUT OF CONTROL, IF THERE IS A SENSE OF INJUSTICE IN THAT COMMUNITY, HILLARY CLINTON'S MESSAGE MIGHT BE THE KIND OF THING THAT CATALYZES THE KIND OF TURNOUT SHE NEEDS IN OUR COMMUNITY, IF SHE IS GOING TO WIN IN NORTH CAROLINA. IT IS A VERY VOLATILE SITUATION, POLITICALLY IN TERMS OF PUBLIC SAFETY. ONE OF THE BIGGEST UNKNOWNS ABOUT THE UPCOMING DEBATE IS DONALD TRUMP'S TONE. JOHN: WILL WE SEE THE UNPREDICTABLE INTEMPERATE HARD EDGED TRUMP, OR ARE WE MORE LIKELY TO SEE A KINDER AND GENTLER TRUMP. SOMETHING LIKE THIS. TO THEMP: AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY, TO THE HISPANIC COMMUNITY, TO ALL COMMUNITIES, I WANT TO SAY WE'RE GOING TO MAKE IT RIGHT. YOU HAVE TO HAVE A CERTAIN SPIRIT AND A CERTAIN UNITY. THERE IS NO UNITY. YOU LOOK AT THE LEVEL OF HATRED, THE ROCKS BEING THROWN AND EVERYTHING HAPPENING. IT IS SO SAD TO SEE THAT THIS IS THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. THERE'S JUST NO UNITY. THERE HAS TO BE A UNITY MESSAGE THAT HAS TO GET OUT. AMERICA DESPERATELY NEEDS UNITY, AND IT NEEDS THE SPIRIT OF TOGETHERNESS THAT IS NOT REALLY ONLY GOT US THERE ARE TOUGHEST , BUT WHICH HAS LIFTED US THAT IN THE PAST TO OUR GREATEST ACHIEVEMENTS AS A NATION. SEE PEOPLE OF DIFFERENT BACKGROUNDS, WORKING TOGETHER FOR A COMMON GOOD, AND WE NEED TO BRING THAT SPIRIT TO EVERY PART OF OUR COUNTRY. WE ALL HAVE TO WALK A MILE IN SOMEONE ELSE'S SHOES, SAVINGS THROUGH THEIR EYES, AND GET TO -- SEE THINGS THROUGH THEIR EYES, AND GET TO WORK FIXING OUR COUNTRY. WE HAVE SOME REAL PROBLEMS, AND WE DO HAVE A WOUNDED COUNTRY. JOHN: THAT WAS DONALD TRUMP OVER THE PAST 48 HOURS TALKING ABOUT THE LATEST POLICE RELATED SHOOTINGS. HE WAS A CONSISTENTLY TRYING TO STRIKE A SOFTER TONE. CANDIDATES OFTEN USE THE TIME LEADING UP TO A DEBATE TO PRACTICE THE APPROACH THEY PRINT IS ON STAGE. MARK, IF WE SEE A MORE SUBDUED TRUMP AT HOFSTRA ON MONDAY, THE KIND OF TRUCK WE SAW IN THAT TAPE ON HAVE YOU WILL PLAY OUT IN -- FOR HIM? I THINK IT'S HIS BEST GAMBIT. IF TRUMP CAN SUSTAIN THAT OVER 90 MINUTES, IT WILL BRING DOWN HILLARY CLINTON A LITTLE BIT. I THINK INSIDERS IN THE MEDIA AND POLITICS OVERSTATE THE EXTENT TO WHICH VOTERS PAY THAT MUCH ATTENTION. TRUMP CAN LEAVE A STRONG IMPRESSION, AND WHAT PEOPLE FIGHT IS AS PERFORMANCE AND TO GO. I HEART BACK TO THE TOWN HALL HE DID WITH ANDERSON COOPER AND HIS FAMILY AS ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT KIND OF MODE. IF TRUMP DOES THAT, IT WILL BE EFFECTIVE. SUSTAINING AT OVER 90 MINUTES IS NOT AS BIG A CHALLENGE AS PEOPLE MAKE IT OUT TO BE. TRUMP HAS SHOWN HE IS NOT ALWAYS THE MOST DISCIPLINED. JOHN: I CAN'T BELIEVE THAT IT WILL NOT BE HIS GOAL TO TRY TO STRIKE THAT TONE. WHETHER HE WILL BE ABLE TO SUSTAIN THAT TONE WHEN HE STARTS GETTING HIT AND ATTACKED BY HILLARY CLINTON -- AND YOU KNOW SHE IS GOING TO. SHE IS GOING TO TAKE HIM ON. AT A MINIMUM, SHE WILL TAKE HIM ON IN A HARD-EDGED WAY ON POLICY MATTERS, AS THAT WILL PROVOKE HIM AND MAYBE THE THING THAT KEEPS THEM FROM BEING ABLE TO MAINTAIN THAT KIND OF SEMI-ANGELIC NON-TRUMP TONE. HE IS NOT GOOD AT SAYING, THOSE SITUATIONS. THAT IS FINE THINK IT WILL BE TOUGH FOR HIM. MARK: THERE IS THIS CONSENSUS THAT THIS IS WHAT HE SHOULD DO. CONSENSUS THAT IT WOULD PUT HIM IN A STRONG POSITION AND MAKE THINGS TOUGH FOR HER. THERE IS A DISAGREEMENT ABOUT, CAN HE DO IT OR NOT. I HAVE NOT SEEN THESE SORT OF CIRCUMSTANCES. JONATHAN HILLARY CLINTON HAS HER OWN STYLISTIC PRICES TO MAKE AN ADVANCE OF MONDAY'S DEBATE. THERE SEEM TO BE TOO GENERAL SCHOOLS OF THOUGHT ON WHAT CLINTON COULD DO. WHAT IS THAT SHE SHOULD AVOID SPARRING WITH TRUMP AT ALL COSTS, NOT BEEN DONE IN THE MUD WITH THEM AND TURN THE OTHER CHEEK AND FOCUS ON POLICY. THE OTHER OPTION SHE HAS, WHICH SOME PEOPLE BELIEVE SHE MUST DO IS TO TAKE TRUMP DOWN, FORCEFULLY AND REPEATEDLY. THE SECOND APPROACH SAY IT WOULD BE POLITICAL SUICIDE. THE EVIDENCE THEY POINT TO, THAT ALL REPUBLICAN PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATES WHO TANGLED WITH TRUMP AND TRIED TO TAKE A MONTH DID NOT WITH DETAILED BEST TO TELL THE TALE. -- WHERE DO ON THIS YOU STAND ON THIS? JOHN: THERE WAS A SCHOOL OF THOUGHT AROUND PRESIDENT GOING INTO THE FIRST DEBATE WITH MITT ROMNEY. IT SOUNDS A LOT LIKE THE FIRST OPTION YOU JUST LAID OUT, WHICH WAS DON'T FIGHT, DON'T ENGAGE, JUST TALK ABOUT YOUR VISION FOR THE COUNTRY. THAT CAUSED OBAMA TO BE BEPLACENT, HE CAUSED THEM TO VERBOSE, TO NOT ENGAGE WITH ROMNEY AND TO GET HIS CLOCK CLEANED IN DENVER. I DON'T THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT APPROACH FOR HILLARY CLINTON. I DON'T THINK SHE SHOULD ATTACK TRUMP PERSONALLY, BUT I THINK ON MATTERS OF SUBSTANCE, SHE WOULD BE FOOLISH NOT TO TRY TO PRESS AND IN AN AGGRESSIVE WAY ON MATTERS OF SUBSTANCE AND POLICY. I KNOW EVERYBODY IS EXCITED ABOUT THIS DEBATE, BUT STATE TRUMP GOES IN AND GOES FOR GENIAL GRANDPA AND CLINTON GOES FOR TURN THE OTHER CHEEK, THIS COULD BE A 90 MINUTE SNOOZE BEST -- SNOOZEFEST. I THINK WHAT SHE WILL DO IS TRY TO TALK ABOUT HERSELF, GET IN LITTLE SNIDE ASIDES WITH TRUMP AND LEAVE HIM WITH THE CHOICE ABOUT WHETHER TO RESPOND IN KIND OR NOT, DELIVERED WITH HUMOR. FROM WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD, SHE GETS THE FACT THAT HER BEST BET IS TO DO THINGS THE WAY GEORGE BUSH, BILL CLINTON, AND BARACK OBAMA WERE MASTERFUL AT DOING, GETTING IN YOUR SHOTS, BUT DOING SO IN A WAY THAT SEEMS LIGHTHEARTED. JOHN: DEFENSE, BUT WHAT HAPPENS ON THE DEBATE STAGE IS WHERE THE CANDIDATES REALLY FEEL ABOUT EACH OTHER COMES OUT. ONE OF THE THINGS WE AGREE ABOUT, SHE THINKS TRUMP DOES NOT KNOW ENOUGH ABOUT THE WORLD, HE DOESN'T REALLY QUALIFY. I CAN'T BELIEVE SHE IS NOT GOING TO TRY TO DRAW OUT HIS -- WHAT SHE SEES AS HIS IGNORANCE ON THOSE MATTERS. WHAT WHEN WE COME BACK, WISCONSIN MEANS FOR DONALD SIMS AND VISIONS, AND YOUR WEAKEN TRAVELING WEATHER, RIGHT AFTER THIS. ♪ ♪ EVERYBODY'S TALKING ABOUT A SLEW OF NEW BATTLEGROUND POLLS OUT THE LAST 24 HOURS. THE MOST IMPORTANT ONES COME FROM THE GREAT STATE OF NEW HAMPSHIRE. WE TALKED ABOUT DONALD TRUMP VERY NARROW PATH TO VICTORY. THERE IS A NEW POLL THAT SUGGESTS A PRETTY BIG BARRIER TO JUMP GETTING TO 270 ELECTORAL VOTES. THAT SURVEY SHOWS CLINTON UP NINE POINTS OVER TRUMP. -- IF SHECLUDE THAT CAN KEEP THAT MARGIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, TRUMP'S CHANCES GET LOWER. GIVE TRUMP A LOSS IN PENNSYLVANIA, WHERE POLLS SHOW HE IS DOWN OUTSIDE THE MARGIN OF ERROR. MOST PUBLIC POLLS SHOW TRUMP LEADING, OR CLOSE ENOUGH TO BE CAROLINA,N IN NORTH FLORIDA, AND OHIO. SADIE WINS THOSE AND KEEPS ALL THE STATES MITT ROMNEY ONE FOUR YEARS AGO, THAT GETS INTO 253 ELECTORAL VOTES. FROM THERE, THINGS GET TOUGH. HE NEEDS TO WIN NEVADA, WHERE HE IS UP BY FIVE POINTS, AND IOWA WHERE POLLS HAVE SHOWN HIM WITH ANYTHING FROM A SMALL EDGE TO A LARGER EDGE. THAT GETS INTO 265. THAT IS WHERE HE MAY BE HITTING A WALL, EVEN GIVING HIM ALL THOSE BATTLEGROUND STATES. ONE WAY TO GET TO 270 WOULD BE TO WIN NEW HAMPSHIRE'S VOTES AND THE ONE CONGRESSIONAL DISTRICT IN MAINE. CLINTON IS DOING WELL IN NEW HAMPSHIRE RIGHT NOW, ACCORDING TO MOST RECENT PUBLIC POLLS, INCLUDING THE NEW ONES. WHAT STATE ARE PEOPLE TALKING ABOUT TODAY? WISCONSIN. THAT IS WHERE THE MARQUETTE UNIVERSITY SURVEY COULD BE ANOTHER WAY FOR TRUMP TO GET OVER THE TOP. IT IS A STATE THAT PRESIDENT OBAMA ONE BANG BY ALMOST SEVEN POINTS WHEN HE WAS RUNNING FOR REELECTION. IF TRUMP COULD PULL OFF THE UPSET IN WISCONSIN, THAT WOULD GIVE HIM 10 MORE ELECTORAL VOTES . THAT WOULD GIVE HIM ENOUGH TO WIN. THAT WOULD GIVE HIM 275 ELECTORAL VOTES AND HE WOULD BE THE NEXT PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES. JOHN, IS THAT WISCONSIN SCENARIO A LEGIT ONE? IT'S LEGIT. STRANGER THINGS HAVE HAPPENED. WE KNOW THERE ARE REPUBLICANS IN WISCONSIN. IT IS NOT A STRAIGHT WEDNESDAY, BUT AT THE PRESIDENTIAL LEVEL IT HAD BEEN BLUE FOR QUITE A LONG TIME. IN THEEMBER, WISCONSIN REPUBLICAN PRIMARY, THAT IS WHERE TED CRUZ WON BECAUSE MOST OF THE ESTABLISHMENT WAS ANTI-TRUMP. IF I WERE DONALD TRUMP AND THE ONLY BACK AGAIN TO 270 ELECTORAL VOTES WAS BY WINNING WISCONSIN AND DOING ALL THE OTHER THINGS YOU SAID HE HAD TO DO, I WOULD NOT BE READY TO GIVE UP ENTIRELY YET, BUT I WOULD THINK I WAS PROBABLY IN PRETTY SERIOUS TROUBLE. THEIR POLLSLE OF SHOW VIRGINIA CLOSER, BUT CLINTON SOME OF A DECENTLY. EIGHT DECENTLY. TRUMP COULD BE PLAYING IN THE NEW HAMPSHIRE MAINE COMBINATION, IN THE COLORADO COMBINATION, IN THE WISCONSIN COMBINATION, BUT THOSE ARE ALL STATES WHERE YOU WOULD BET ON CLINTON. HE IS GETTING TO THE POINT WHERE HE IS TANTALIZINGLY CLOSE FOR DONALD TRUMP TO BE A 270, BUT IT IS STILL NOT CLEAR HOW TO IDENTIFY HIS LEADING CAP TO 270. JOHN: IT IS GETTING TANTALIZINGLY CLOSE TO HIM HAVING A PATH, BUT THAT PATH STILL INVOLVED IN WINNING OHIO, NORTH CAROLINA, AND FLORIDA. AT LEAST IN NORTH CAROLINA AND FLORIDA, HE IS NOT EVEN AHEAD. THOSE ARE TOSSUP STATES RIGHT NOW. HE SEEMS A LITTLE AHEAD IN OHIO, BUT HE STILL HAS TO RUN THE TABLE. NEEDS AKEEP SAYING HE NATIONAL PUSH, OR HE WILL NOT BE ABLE TO DO IT. HE COULD GET A NATIONAL PUSH AS EARLY AS MONDAY. UP NEXT, WE BRING IN REVEREND AL SHARPTON TO TALK ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN NORTH CAROLINA, OKLAHOMA, AND NATIONALLY AFTER THIS. ♪ ♪ JOHN: WE'RE JOINED BY THE REVEREND AL SHARPTON, THE HOST OF POLITICS NATION ON MSNBC, SUNDAYS AT 8:00 A.M. THE BREAKING NEWS IS THAT THE POLICE OFFICER THAT HE SHALL BE IS GETTING CHARGED WITH MANSLAUGHTER IN THE TERENCE CRUTCHER SHOOTING. WHAT IS YOUR REACTION? THET IS A SWIFT STEP IN RIGHT DIRECTION IN THE PURSUIT OF JUSTICE, AND I THINK THAT WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE VIDEOTAPE, THERE IS CLEARLY ENOUGH PROBABLE CAUSE WHERE WE WILL SEE WHAT HAPPENS AT TRIAL -- AT TRIAL. THE FAMILY CAME TO THE HEADQUARTERS OF NATIONAL ACTION NETWORK AND HAD A PRESS CONFERENCE. WE SAID WE WOULD BE RALLYING THIS WEEKEND, CALLING FOR JUSTICE. I WILL BE GOING TO PULL THE TO JOIN THE FAMILY NEXT WEEK. I WANT TO SEE AN EXAMINATION OF THE OFFICERS THAT WERE WITH THE POLICEWOMAN THAT HAS BEEN CHARGED, WHETHER THERE IS ANY DISCIPLINARY OR LEGAL EXPOSURE THERE. YOU CAN'T TRUST THIS WITH THESE LOPEZ OF THE RELEASE OF TAPES IN CHARLOTTE, AND THE FACT THAT WE STILL HAVE NO RELEASE OF TAPES TO THE PUBLIC. WE HAVE SEEN THE FAMILIES GOING IN, AND THE FAMILY ATTORNEYS SAY LET'S SEE WHAT IS THERE. WHEN YOU CAN CONTRAST TOLD THE CHARGING THE POLICE, AND IT IS NOT HAPPENING IN CHARLOTTE, THAT EXACERBATES A LOT OF ATTENTION, AND MAKE -- A LOT OF THE ATTENTION, AND MAKE PEOPLE FEEL LIKE THEY ARE HIDING SOMETHING. THE IRONY IS THAT IT IS A BLACK OFFICER AND SOME BLACK LEADERSHIP IN THE POLICE DEPARTMENT IN CHARLOTTE. IT IS AN INSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM, AS WELL AS A RACE PROBLEM WITH POLICING. MARK: WHAT CAN BE DONE TO LOWER THE LEVEL OF VIOLENCE IN THE PROTESTS IN NORTH CAROLINA? REVERAND SHARPTON: I THINK TRANSPARENCY. I THINK THAT WHEN PEOPLE FEEL THEY ARE GETTING THE FACTS, NO MATTER WHAT THEY MAY BE, THAT THE LEVEL OF ANXIETY IS LOWERED. TODAY WHATN THEY SEE HAS HAPPENED IN TULSA AND WHAT IS NOW HAPPENING IN CHARLOTTE, WITH EVEN OFFICERS OF THEIR OWN KIND, BUT THEY ARE CLEARLY INSTITUTIONALLY REACTING DIFFERENTLY IN BLACK NEIGHBORHOODS THAN WHITE. I THINK IT INCREASES THE FIRST STATION AND -- THE FRUSTRATION AND ANXIETY. WHEN ONE OF THESE HORRIBLE SHOOTINGS OCCURRED, IT IS A TRAGEDY AND WE FOCUS ON THE VICTIMS, BUT SINCE WE HAVE BEEN DEALING WITH THIS FOR MONTHS, WHAT DO YOU SEE HAPPENING AT THE FEDERAL, STATE, OR LOCAL LEVEL THAT ENCOURAGES YOU TO TRY TO DEAL WITH THESE SITUATIONS BEFORE THEY OCCUR? REVERAND SHARPTON: I THINK WHEN I LOOK AT THE PRESIDENT'S COMMISSION ON POLICING, HE HAS MET WITH MANY OF THE CIVIL RIGHTS LEADERS AND ACTIVISTS, AND FORMED THIS COMMISSION. ARE TOE RECOMMENDATIONS BE FOLLOWED, I THINK WE CAN MAKE PROGRESS. I HOPE IT IS AT THE CENTER OF ONE OF THE SEGMENTS OF THE DEBATE MONDAY NIGHT, TO SEE IF MRS. CLINTON OR MR. TRUMP WILL COMMIT THAT THEY WILL UPHOLD THOSE RECOMMENDATIONS, AND THEY WILL RECOMMEND TO LAW ENFORCEMENT AROUND THE COUNTRY, AND TRANSLATE IT INTO LAW. WE HAVE NOT SEEN A MOVEMENT IN THIS AREA. EVEN RYAN HAS BEEN STALLING ON BRINGING ABOUT THE SENTENCING REFORM BILL, WHICH IS BIPARTISAN. WE -- WE WILL CONTINUE THIS CONVERSATION, WHEN WE COME BACK. ♪ ♪ JOHN: WE'RE BACK WITH REVEREND AL SHARPTON, TALKING ABOUT THE TERRIBLE EVENTS OF THIS WEEK. I WENT TO PICK UP ABOUT SOMETHING WE WERE TALKING ABOUT IN THE LAST BLOCK, WHICH RELATES TO THE VIDEOTAPE. YOU THINK THE VIDEOTAPE IN THE CHARLOTTE SHOOTING SHOULD BE RELEASED. ITERAND SHARPTON: I THINK SHOULD BE RELEASED. I THINK IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN RELEASED IMMEDIATELY, AND I THINK THIS IS THE CASE AROUND THE COUNTRY. I KNOW THE ATTORNEYS FOR THE FAMILY AND CHARLOTTE IS TAKING A MORE CAUTIOUS YOU. I THINK WHEN THE PUBLIC FEELS THERE IS TRANSPARENCY, THAT IS THE IDEA OF SAYING WE WANT BODY CAMERAS, SO THE PUBLIC WILL BE ABLE TO SEE. IT PROTECTS THE POLICE, IF IN FACT THE POLICE HAVE DONE NOTHING THAT IS QUESTIONABLE. JOHN: I THINK IT REMOVE THE ELEMENT OF VOLATILITY AND SUSPICIONS YOU WERE TALKING ABOUT BEFORE. THE SUSPICIONS FREE VOLATILITY WE SAW ON THE STREET LAST NIGHT. DAMNING,HE VIDEO IS HAVING IT OUT THERE LESSENS THE CHANCES -- REVERAND SHARPTON: I DON'T CONDONE VIOLENCE, BUT WE UNDERSTAND THE FRUSTRATION, WHICH MAY ALSO NOW REACH A DIFFERENT KIND OF CONVERSATION. I CAN SEESURCHARGING, PEOPLE IN CHARLOTTE SAYING WAIT A MINUTE, WHAT IS THE PROBLEM? THE TAPE WERE RELEASED, AND IT WERE TO SHOW MR. SCOTT HOLDING A GUN AS POLICE HAVE CLAIMED, HOW WOULD THAT CHANGE THE NARRATIVE? REVERAND SHARPTON: I THINK IT CHANGES THE NARRATIVE THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WILL SAY FINE, THERE IS NOTHING HERE, BUT THERE IS STILL AN INSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM, BUT THIS IS NOT THE FIRST CASE IN CHARLOTTE. SOME WILL, NO MATTER WHAT HAPPENS, BE ANGRY BECAUSE OF THE DELAY, BUT I ALSO THINK THAT WITH THEMSELVES IN A VERY PRECARIOUS POSITION BY NOT COMING WOULD QUICKLY BECAUSE NOW , EVERYONE WILL ALWAYS QUESTION WHY IT TOOK SO LONG TO RELEASE THE TAPE. I THINK THESE ARE THE THINGS THAT WE WANT TO HEAR THE CANDIDATES TALK ABOUT, PARTICULARLY WHEN YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP ENTERING STOP AND WHICHINTO THE DIALOGUE, WAS FOUND NOT ONLY BY THOSE OF US THAT LED THE PROTESTS AND MARCHES IN NEW YORK TO GET RID OF STOP AND FIRST, A FEDERAL JUDGE SAID IT WAS DISCRIMINATORY AND UNCONSTITUTIONAL IN HIS HOMETOWN, AND THIS BECOMES HIS CRIMINAL JUSTICE POLICE POSITION. I WANT TO GO BACK TO A COMMENT YOU MADE, ABOUT IS THIS THE CASE WHERE YOU HAVE A BLACK OFFICER AND A BLACK VICTIM. YOU MADE A POINT THAT THIS IS AN INSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM. AT LEAST, THE RACIAL PROBLEM IS SUBSUMED. SAY MORE ABOUT THAT. THINK THEHARPTON: I INSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM IS YOU SET UP WHERE POLICE ARE SEEING TO OPERATE, WHERE THEY ARE OUTSIDE OF THE TRANSPARENCY AND SCRUTINY THAT GIVES THE COMMUNITY ,ONFIDENCE THAT THEY ARE THERE NOT THERE AS SOME OCCUPIED FORCE, BLACK OR WHITE. THEY HAVE THIS BLUE WALL OF SILENCE THAT WE ARE GOING TO PROTECT EACH OTHER, RATHER THAN UPHOLD THE LAW. THAT IS AN INSTITUTIONAL PROBLEM. BLACK OPS OPERATE IN BLACK COMMUNITIES DIFFERENTLY THAN THEY DO IN WHITE COMMUNITIES. YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF IF THAT SAME BLACK OFFICER THAT KILLED SCOTT, IF HE WAS IN A WHITE AREA -- I DON'TROLINA KNOW IF GOD HAD A GUN OR NOT, BUT LET'S SAY HE DID, WOULD HE NOT SAY TO A WHITE GUY, DO YOU HAVE A PERMIT? I THINK THOSE ARE THE QUESTIONS THAT LEAD TO A LOT OF THE PROTESTS, AND UNFORTUNATELY TO VIOLENCE. IN TERMS OF THE TERRORIST INSTANCES THAT HAVE HAPPENED ,ERE IN NEW JERSEY AND NEW YORK PEOPLE HAVE TALKED ABOUT THE NOTION THAT THERE IS A SHOOT TO WOUND, AS OPPOSED TO SHOOT TO KILL IN CIRCLE DANCES -- IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. YOU SEE A DICHOTOMY BETWEEN THOSE TWO? POLICEOUT THAT, AND HOW USE THEIR GUNS IN CERTAIN CIRCUMSTANCES. REVERAND SHARPTON: WHEN YOU LOOK INSIDE OF ONE WEEK THAT YOU HAVE IN NEW YORKATTACK AND NEW JERSEY. THIS GUY SHOT AT POLICE, AND THEY WOULD GIVE HIM AND TOOK HIM IN. YOU HAVE A GUY WHO'S CAR BROKE DOWN IN TULSA, HANDS UP, AND HE IS KILLED AFTER BEING TASERED. YOU HAVE TO ASK YOURSELF, WHAT IS THE POLICE POLICY? WHAT IS BEING DONE IN TRAINING? WHY IS IT DIFFERENT STROKES FOR DIFFERENT FOLKS, AS WE LIKE TO SAY? ONARLY, THE MAN BROUGHT IN ATTACKS IN NEW YORK, CHELSEA, AND NEW JERSEY, WAS A DANGER. HE WAS SHOOTING AT POLICEMAN, AND THEY FOUND A WAY TO BRING HIM IN ALIVE. YOU COULDN'T FIND A WAY TO BRING A MAN ALIVE WHO'S CAR BROKE DOWN , AND YOU HAVE A POLICEMAN IN A HELICOPTER LOOKING DOWN ON A GUY SAYING HE LOOKS LIKE A BAD DUDE. LIKE A BAD DUDE WITH HIS HANDS UP, BUT WAS NOT A BAD DUDE THAT WAS SHOOTING WITH POLICE IN NEW YORK? MANY OF US SEE THAT AS A GRAPHIC EXAMPLE OF THE DIFFERENCE OF HOW PEOPLE TREAT SITUATIONS DIFFERENTLY IN LAW ENFORCEMENT? AHN: DONALD TRUMP ATOP WITH SOFTER TONE ABOUT SOME OF THESE THINGS, BUT IN SOME CASES HE HAS TALKED WITH A LESS SOFT TONE. DRUGSD IN PITTSBURGH THAT HAVE BEEN A BIG FACTOR IN WHAT YOU ARE SEEING ON TELEVISION. HOW DO YOU REACT TO THE NOTION THAT DRUGS HAVE BEEN A BIG FACTOR? REVERAND SHARPTON: I THINK THAT WHEN YOU BRING UP STOP AND FIRST, THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN TO BE DISCRIMINATORY BY EVEN THE COURTS. A WHITE MALE NAMED BILL DE BLASIO BE A BLACK IN A PRIMARY IN NEW YORK BECAUSE BILL DE BLASIO CAME OUT AGAINST STOP AT FIRST, AND THE BLACK CANDIDATE DIDN'T. HOW MR. TRUMP, WHO LIVES IN NEW YORK AND I ASSUME VOTES HERE, DIDN'T KNOW THE DIFFERENCE, IS BEYOND ME. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE FACT THAT HE BRINGS UP DRUGS, DRUGS WERE A FACTOR WHERE? THERE IS THE ALLEGATION IT'S ALSO THAT THE VICTIM HAD DRUGS IN THE CAR. X-RAY THE POLICEMAN HAD VISION, THAT HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH HIM BEING TASERED OR SHOT? JOHN: I THINK HE IS SUGGESTING THAT DRUGS ARE FEELING THE RIOTING. I'M NOT VALIDATING. REVERAND SHARPTON: BY WHAT EVIDENCE IS HE BRINGING THIS UP, AND IS THIS NOT FITTING INTO -- INTO THEPING STEREOTYPE OF DRUGS AND BLACKS, AND SUPPORTING WHY WE HAVE TO FIRST FROM? THE IRON IS IF HE BRINGS IN STOP AND FIRST IN THE MIDDLE OF THE SHOOTINGS, WHEN THERE WERE NO STOP AND FIRST ISSUES AT ALL. IN CHARLOTTE, THEY STOPPED THIS GUY WITH A BULLET AND FIRST HIM AFTER HE WAS DEAD. THAT HAS BEEN PROVEN IN NEW YORK, STOP AND FIRST HAS GONE DOWN FROM ALMOST 700,000 COPS 220,000, AND CRIME HAS DONE -- CRIME HAS GONE DOWN. JOHN: IT IS ALWAYS A PLEASURE TO SEE YOU, AND THANK YOU FOR THE WORDS OF WISDOM. ONCK OUT, "POLITICS NATION," MSNBC ON SUNDAY AT 8:00 A.M. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN WATCHING US IN WASHINGTON DC, YOU CAN LISTEN TO US ON THE RADIO AT BLOOMBERG, 99.1 FM. ♪ ♪ TPP?E YOU DOWN WITH >> I'M NOT DOWN WITH TPP? . TOMMY WHAT TO SAY. ITWHEN YOU SEE HOW WELL WORKS FOR DONALD TRUMP, DO YOU EVER THINK TO YOURSELF, MAYBE I SHOULD BE MORE RACES? -- MORE RACIST? WE SHOULD STAY IN TOUCH. >> YOU'VE GOT MAIL. WE ARE AFTER DAYS AWAY FROM THE FIRST PRESIDENTIAL DEBATE, AND HILLARY CLINTON DIDN'T -- HILLARY CLINTON IS TAKING SOME DAYS OFF. THAT TAPE WITH ZACH GALIFIANAKIS WAS RECORDED LAST WEEK. HERE TO TALK ABOUT WHAT WE THE FORMERN FOR IS DEMOCRATIC GOVERNOR OF MICHIGAN. SHE IS COMING TO US LIVE FROM OAKLAND, CALIFORNIA. GRANHOLM, WE WERE JUST ,ISCUSSING EARLIER ON THE SHOW HILLARY CLINTON, SHOULD SHE GO AFTER DONALD TRUMP, OR SHOULD SHE TALK ABOUT HERSELF? TALKINGHOULD START ABOUT HERSELF, BUT SHE CAN'T LET HIM GET AWAY WITH ATTACKS THAT ARE UNTRUE, OR STATEMENTS THAT ARE COMPLETE BLATANT FALSEHOODS. IF THE MODERATOR DOESN'T STEP UP TO THE PLATE, SHE HAS TO CORRECT THE RECORD, BUT SHE HAS TO DO IT IN A WAY -- SHE CAN DO WITH HUMOR, SHE CAN DO IT WITH A LIGHTER TOUCH, SHE CAN POINT OUT TO THE AUDIENCE, BUT I DO THINK THAT YOU CANNOT LET A FALSEHOOD STAND. JOHN: WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THAT, MIKE? IF YOU WERE DRIVING HILLARY CLINTON -- WERE ADVISING HILLARY CLINTON, WHAT ADVICE WOULD YOU GIVE? THE GOVERNOR COMPLETELY. DONALD TRUMP WAS EFFECTIVE WHEN HE WENT AT JEFF BUSH AND TED CRUZ. THEY HAD A HARD TIME RESPONDING, BECAUSE HE ASKED THE DEBATE RULES. I THINK THAT WILL BE THE DIFFICULT PART FOR SECRETARY CLINTON. I AGREE THAT SHE SHOULD STAND UP AND BE AGGRESSIVE BACK. >> I THINK THE MODERATOR IS GOING TO ACT -- ASKED SOME OF THE TOUGH QUESTIONS AGAINST EACH OF THEM, SO THE REAL QUESTION YOU ARE ASKING IS SHOULD SHE ALLOW A FALSEHOOD TO STAND, OR SHOULD SHE AFFIRMATIVELY GO AFTER HIM, WHICH MIGHT BE TERRITORY LIKE FOR EXAMPLE ON THE TOP FOUNDATION, WHICH MIGHT BE TERRITORY THAT THE MODERATOR MIGHT BE GOING AFTER. SHE HAS TO GAUGE WHO SHE WILL ALLOWED TO DO THE ACTUAL DIRECT ATTACKS ON HIM. THINK THE NOTION THAT IF TRUMP DECIDES TO GO AFTER HER IN A HEAD ON THE WAY, WHETHER THAT IS ON HER CHARACTER, ETHICS, OR PERSONALLY, NO ONE WOULD DISPUTE THE RIGHT TACTIC AT THAT POINT IS TO FIGHT BACK. THE QUESTION IS, IF TRUMP DECIDES TO GO BE PRESIDENTIAL GENTLERTO BE A SOFTER, DONALD TRUMP -- >> WHICH HE DID. JOHN: RIGHT. WHAT SHOULD SHE DO THEN? >> SHE SHOULD TRY TO LET PEOPLE KNOW HER A LITTLE BIT. SHE IS WINNING BASED ON PEOPLE WHO DON'T LIKE HER AND DON'T TRUST HER. I THINK IF SHE CAN CONTINUE TO SHOW THE COMMAND OF THE ISSUES, IF SHE CAN SHOW HER HUMAN SIDE A LITTLE BIT MORE AND TAKE THE EDGE OFF, I THINK THAT WILL HELP A LOT. >> I CANNOT BELIEVE, WE ARE BOTH AGREEING. I AGREE WITH YOU ON THAT. PEOPLE DON'T HAVE ANY DOUBTS THAT SHE KNOWS THE ISSUES. YOU SAW IN THE POLLS TODAY, PEOPLE SEE HER AS COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF. WHAT AN OPPORTUNITY FOR HER TO SHOW THAT LIGHTER SIDE. I HAVE SO GLAD YOU SHOW THAT BETWEEN THE FERNS INTERVIEW BECAUSE SHE HAS GAME. SHE IS TOTALLY GOOD. SHE HAD A GREAT SENSE OF HUMOR. IT WOULD BE NICE TO HAVE HER ENJOY IT, BE A HAPPY WARRIOR. I DON'T KNOW PEOPLE YET IT, PEOPLE OUTSIDE OF YOU AND OTHERS WHO MAY KNOW HER. JOHN: IS THERE A WAY IN THE CONTEXT OF THE DEBATE, WHICH IS INHERENTLY A GLADIATORIAL ENTERPRISE, IS THERE A WAY FOR HER TO DO GOOD FOR HERSELF IN TERMS OF WHAT IS A PROBLEM, WHICH IS THE PERCEPTION THAT SHE IS NOT HONEST AND TRUSTWORTHY, IS THERE SOMETHING SHE COULD DO TO HELP REPAIR HER NEGATIVES IN THIS CONTEXT? >> ABSOLUTELY. THE INTERESTING THING IS, IF YOU WATCH OR READ THE RIGHT WEBSITES , THE ECHO CHAMBERS THAT ARE ON BOTH THE RIGHT AND THE LEFT. PEOPLE ON THE RIGHT HAVE THIS .MAGE OF HER AS THIS DEMON SHE WILL BE ABLE TO HAVE BEEN WATCHING HER, AND SHE WILL BE ABLE TO PRESENT HERSELF IN A WAY THAT -- THAT THEY MIGHT BE SURPRISED THAT. THIS IDEA OF HER SHOWING HER HEART, HER SOUL ABOUT WHY SHE IS RUNNING, WHO SHE IS RUNNING FOR. SHE IS RUNNING FOR THEM. IT IS NOT JUST ABOUT THE DETAILS OF HER POLICIES, IT IS WHY SHE IS THERE, TO SHOW THE REAL HER. I THINK THERE IS A HUGE OPPORTUNITY FOR THAT. FOR: WHAT IS YOUR ADVICE DONALD TRUMP ABOUT HOW WE SHOULD CONDUCT HIMSELF IN ONE OF HIS MAIN GOAL SHOULD BE? >> I WOULD SAY TO SHOW HE HAS SOME CHOPS ON THE POLICY SIDE. PEOPLE WILL SHE SHOULD HAVE A GREAT ADVANTAGE. THAT IS WHERE THE QUESTION WILL BE ON DONALD TRUMP. THIS WILL BE THE FIRST OPPORTUNITY WHERE SHE HAS TO -- HE HAS TO ANSWER QUESTIONS ENABLE FORMAT. TO SHOW THAT THE POLICY WILL STRENGTHEN THEM A LOT. THAT, YOUUST SAY ON HAVE SAID BEFORE, AND MARK HAS SAID BEFORE THAT THE BAR FOR HIM -- HE, SO HER CHALLENGE IS A TV STAR, BUT HE DOESN'T KNOW POLICY THAT WILL, OR AT LEAST HE HAS SHOWN THAT. I JUST HOPE AS YOU REVIEW THIS THAT YOU DO NOT ALLOW THAT LOW BAR TO EXIST FOR HIM. THEY SHOULD BE DEALT WITH EVENLY. I NOT GOING TO BOSS YOU AROUND, JOHN. JOHN: I WANT TO TELL YOU THAT WE ALWAYS HAVE A HIGH BAR FOR GUESTS, AND YOU HAVE CLEARED THAT. DO YOU THINK MODERATOR SHOULD BE FACT CHECKERS? WE DON'T HAVE TIME FOR THAT. WILL TALK WITH TO REPORTERS ABOUT WHAT THEY ARE HEARING ABOUT HOW THE CANDIDATES ARE PREPARING FOR THE BIG DEBATE AS OPPOSED TO HOW THEY SHOULD PREPARE. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK. . ♪ BY JENNIFERD EPSTEIN, WHO HAS BEEN BUBBLING HILLARY CLINTON'S CAMPAIGN, AND NBC CORRESPONDENT KELLY O'DONNELL. KELLY, I WILL START WITH YOU RIGHT NOW. WE HAVE BEEN TALKING DEBATE. HILLARY CLINTON IS OFF THE TRAIL. WHAT DO YOU KNOW? >> THIS IS A WORKDAY ABOUT THE PAPER. SHE IS OFF THE TRAIL AND DOING HER DEBATE PREP YOUR HOME. ONE OF THE THINGS WE HEARD FROM THE GOVERNOR GIVES US AN IDEA OF WHAT THE CLINTON TEAM ONCE, THEY WANT TO SET THE CONDITIONS BEFORE THE DEBATE, TO A GREAT VOTERS AND ANALYSTS TO WRITE THIS NOT ON A TRIP CURVE. THEY ARGUE HE GETS ONE DIMENSIONAL QUESTIONS, HE GETS EASY QUESTIONS WHEN HE IS INTERVIEWED OR PARTICIPATE IN DEBATES. HE IS NOT HELD TO THE SAME POLICY STANDARDS AND THE SAME FACT STANDARDS. THERE IS A SMALL GROUP OF CLINTON OFFICIALS WHO ARE WITH HER, WHO ARE A PART OF THIS. READING AND STUDYING PERP, AS WELL AS REAL-TIME MOCK DEBATE DRESS REHEARSAL PREP. IT IS A CLOSELY GUARDED SECRET HOW ALL OF THAT IS GOING. SOME OF HER CLOSE FRIENDS OF THE PARTY DON'T KNOW WHAT IS HAPPENING INSIDE THE ROOM, OR AT LEAST SAY THEY DON'T IN TERMS OF WHO THEY HAVE FOUND TO PLAY DONALD TRUMP. OF PEOPLEA NUMBER STEPPED FORWARD, OFFERING TO PLAY DONALD TRUMP FOR HER, BUT WE DON'T KNOW WHO THE IDENTITY IS ABOUT WHO IS PLAYING THAT AND ACTING AS THE MODERATOR. PART OF THE PROCESS HAS BEEN GOING THROUGH THINGS THEY ANTICIPATE, AND PREPARING FOR DIFFERENT TRUMPS. WILL IT BE THE BOMBASTIC TRUMP, WILL IT BE THE CUTTING, CROOKED HILLARY TRUMP, WILLOUGHBY TRUMP TRYING TO BE MORE STATESMANLIKE? THEY HAVE LIVED IN HIS PERFORMANCE IN TERMS TO HANG BACK AND HIT HIS MOMENTS. JOHN: I THINK IT WILL BE HIGHLY CHAPLIN TRUMP. YOU DON'T KNOW WHO IS PLAYING TRUMP, DO YOU? >> I WISH I DID. MOMENT WHERE THERE IS OBVIOUSLY A LOT OF EXPECTATION ON BOTH SIDES. THE CLINTON PEOPLE ACKNOWLEDGE THAT SHE IS GOING TO -- THEY BELIEVE THAT SHE WILL PERFORM WELL. JENNIFER PALMERI SAID THAT THE PLANES WHILE THE PRESS YESTERDAY. THEY DO WANT THIS TO BE JUDGED FAIRLY. THEY DO WANT A LOTTERY TO STEP IN AND BE TOUGH ON TRUMP, AND NOT JUST TOUGH ON HER BECAUSE SHE HAS MORE OF A RECORD, WHICH IS WHAT HAPPENED DURING THE VETERANS TOWNHALL A COUPLE WEEKS AGO. THAT IS A CONCERN THAT THEY HAVE, AND I GAVE THEM THE CHANCE TO SAY WE NEED TO MAKE SURE TRUMP IS ASKED THE SAME KINDS OF QUESTIONS AS SECRETARY CLINTON. THE SAME TIME, I THINK THERE IS A DYNAMIC OF WHO IS GOING TO DO THE FACT CHECKING? WILLOUGHBY LESTER HOLT AS A MODERATOR, OR WILL IT BE SECRETARY CLINTON SAYING TO TRUMP, YOU JUST SAID SOMETHING THAT IS WRONG, AND IF THEY GET INTO A FACTUAL BACK-AND-FORTH. JOHN: THEY HAVE BEEN TRYING TO DO THIS FOR A LITTLE WHILE, WHICH IS TO TRY TO SAY TO US AS REPORTERS, THERE HAVE BEEN A DOUBLE STANDARD, YOU NEED TO RAISE THE BAR ON TRUMP. DO THEY THINK THEY HAVE BEEN SOMEWHAT SUCCESSFUL IN TRYING TO DO THAT IN THE LAST COUPLE WEEKS? >> I THINK THEY DO. I THINK THEY THINK REPORTERS WILL BE EMBARRASSED IF THEY SAY THAT TRUMP WON JUST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T FOLLOW HIS FACE, WHICH I DON'T THINK HE WILL BASKETBALL ON HIS FACE, WHICH I DON'T THINK HE WILL. WHEN THEY LOOK BACK ON THE POLICY SPEECHES, THERE HAVE BEEN REVIEWS FROM PUNDITS SAYING HE DID WELL, JUST BECAUSE HE DIDN'T GO OFF SCRIPT. MCCURRYTHOUGHT TO MIKE LAST NIGHT IN WASHINGTON DC, AND HE WAS VERY UP FRONT. HE SAID I DON'T THINK THAT MODERATORS SHOULD BE FACT CHECKERS. I THINK THEY SHOULD BE UP TO THE STANDARD THAT CHRIS WALLACE HAS SET. OTHER.ECKING THE DO YOU THINK HILLARY CLINTON CAN PLAY THAT ROLE ONSTAGE? IS READY FORE THAT, BUT SHE WOULD LIKE SOME HELP FROM THE MODERATOR. MODERATORS HAVE BEEN KEEPING TIME, ASKING QUESTIONS, BECAUSE OFTEN THE FACT CHECKING IS OPEN TO INTERPRETATION. IT IS ABOUT HOW PEOPLE VIEW THE FACT, AND THAT IS WHERE IT CAN BE VERY THORNY FOR MODERATORS TO STEP IN. TRUMP WAS DOING A VERY TRUMP LIKE AGAIN. HE WAS IN PHILLY AND WENT TO GINO'S AND SAID EVERYTHING IS GOING FINE. A SUNDAYS AT BEDMINSTER WITH HIS CLOSE CIRCLE, THROWING WESTERNS AROUND OVER FAST FOOD. JOHN: AND HAVING A CHEESESTEAK. JENNIFER EPSTEIN, KELLY O'DONNELL, THANK YOU. WE WILL BE RIGHT BACK. ♪ JOHN: ON THE INTERNET, LOOK UP DALAI LAMA AND TRUMP. TWITTERARTNERING WITH FOR SPECIAL COVERAGE OF THE PRESIDENTIAL DEBATES THIS MONDAY. FORGET AND POSTGAME INTERVIEWS P.M. ONRT AT 8"30 TWITTER. UNTIL TOMORROW, SAYONARA. >> I'M MARK CRUMPTON, YOU'RE WATCHING BLOOMBERG WEST. A WHAT POLICE OFFICER AND TOLD THE OKLAHOMA HAS BEEN CHARGED WITH FIRST-DEGREE MURDER, LESS THAN ONE WEEK AFTER SHE KILLED IN UNARMED BLACK MAN. COURT DOCUMENTS SAY OFFICER BETTY SHELBY, "REACTED UNREASONABLY WHEN SHE SHOT 40-YEAR-OLD TERENCE CRUTCHER WHO WAS WALKING AWAY FROM SHELBY WITH HIS HANDS IN THE AIR. LAWYERS SAY HE DID NOT FOLLOW POLICE COMMANDS. SURE THE POLICE ARE REFUSING TO RELEASE VIDEO OF THE FATAL SHOOTING OF A BLACK MAN UNTIL HIS FAMILY SEES IT FIRST. THE POLICE CHIEF SAID HE HAS REVIEWED THE FOOTAGE. METHE VIDEO DOES NOT GIVE ABSOLUTE, DEFINITIVE VISUAL WOULD CONFIRM THAT A PERSON IS POINTING A GUN. I DID NOT SEE THAT IN THE VIDEOS THAT I REVIEWED. >> THE NATIONAL GUARD ARRIVED IN CHARLOTTE TO TRY TO HEAD OFF A THIRD NIGHT OF VIOLENCE. THE TOP U.S. GENERAL SAID THE ROCKETS THAT HIT A BASIN IN IRAQ CONTAIN AGENTS. IT CONTAINED A, "SULFUR MUSTARD AGENT." GLOBAL NEWS, POWERED BY MORE THAN 2600 JOURNALISTS AND ANALYSTS, I'M MARK CRUMPTON, BLOOMBERG WEST IS NEXT. ♪ >> I'M EMILY CHANG, AND THIS IS BLOOMBERG WEST. YAHOO! ADMITS ACCOUNT INFORMATION FOR 500 MILLION USERS HAS BEEN:. HACKERS MAY BE BEHIND IT. WHAT IT MEANS FOR VERIZON. LINKEDIN'S JEFF WEINER TELLS ME HE IS ROLLING UP HIS SLEEVES, AND MAPPING INTEGRATION PLANS FOR MICROSOFT. HE DISCUSSES WHETHER MORE TECH M&A IS COMING IN OUR IS AN INTERVIEW. THE FOOD DELIVERY BUSINESS IN YOUR PIZZA. DELIVERY HERE AND TELL US HOW IT'S DEFENDING HOME TURF AS OVERUSE AND AMAZON IN COURT ON ITS TERRITORY. MAJOR'S DOUBLE FOR YAHOO!'S CORE BUSINESS, I HAD OF ITS $420 BILLION ACQUISITION BY VERIZON. TODAY, THE COMPANY CONFIRMED THAT THE PERSONAL INFORMATION OF AT LEAST
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