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  • LET'S LISTEN IN AS ED VISITS

  • WITH SHAUN LIVINGSTON, POINT

  • GUARD FOR THE NBA BROOKLYN NETS.

  • >>THE STORY, SHAUN LIVINGSTON

  • STORY STARTS WITH A VERY, VERY

  • YOUNG AGE, CARRYING BOOKS AND

  • YOU LEARNED TO WALK REAL EARLY

  • IN YOUR LIFE.

  • WHAT WAS THAT, SHAUN, VERY

  • YOUNG?

  • >>VERY YOUNG, PROBABLY EIGHT,

  • NINE MONTHS.

  • >>AND YOU WERE WALKING, AND

  • FRANK, YOUR GRANDFATHER--

  • >>YES.

  • >>THE MARINE STORY.

  • WHAT IS THE MARINE STORY?

  • >> HE SERVED IN THE WAR, AND YOU

  • KNOW, HE WAS A GUY THAT WAS

  • ALWAYS, YOU KNOW, GOT YOUR BED

  • MADE UP, DID YOU PUT YOUR SHOES

  • BACK WHERE YOU FOUND THEM.

  • YOU KNOW, I MEAN HE WAS ON ME

  • ABOUT EVERYDAY DUTIES, YOUR

  • CHORES, DISCIPLINE.

  • I MEAN HE WAS VERY HIGH ON THAT,

  • TRAINING ME FROM A KID TO A

  • YOUNG MAN TO A MAN.

  • SO THAT WAS WHERE HIS STORY

  • REALLY CAME IN, AND HE

  • INFLUENCED MY LIFE.

  • >>NO EXCUSES, DO YOU RECALL THE

  • STORY, HIS SUGGESTION THERE IS

  • NO EXCUSES?

  • >>ABSOLUTELY.

  • >>PRETTY MUCH ANYTHING.

  • >>ABSOLUTELY.

  • I MEAN, YOU KNOW, HE USED TO

  • COME IN-- I MEAN HE ASKED WHY I

  • WOULDN'T HAVE MY HOMEWORK DONE,

  • BEFORE I GAVE AN ANSWER, RIGHT

  • AWAY "NO EXCUSES."

  • (LAUGHING) THINK ABOUT IT BACK

  • THEN, IT GOT ON YOUR NERVES AND

  • WAS ANNOYING AS A KID.

  • I WAS, MAN, I HAVE ALL THIS

  • STUFF TO DO, AND YOU ARE

  • THINKING OF THE ALTERNATIVES.

  • ONCE YOU GET OLDER, ONLY THING

  • THAT MATTERS IS THE RESULTS.

  • IT IS LIKE DID YOU GET IT DONE

  • OR DID YOU NOT GET IT DONE.

  • AGAIN, THAT COMES FROM, YOU

  • KNOW, HIS BACKGROUND SERVING,

  • THE END RESULTS BECAUSE THEY HAD

  • LITTLE MARGIN FOR ERROR.

  • >>CONCORDIA, YOU GUYS DID REAL

  • WELL.

  • TWO TITLES, THEN RICHWOODS, THEN

  • CENTRAL, TWO TITLES,

  • McDONALD'S AND YOU WERE CO MVP

  • AT McDONALD'S HIGH SCHOOL.

  • YOU LOOKED AT, WHAT, DUKE,

  • ILLINOIS?

  • >>ARIZONA AND NORTH CAROLINA.

  • >>AND YOU DECIDED TENTATIVELY

  • DUKE.

  • AND THEN WHAT HAPPENED?

  • >> AND THEN IT WAS JUST A ROLLER

  • COASTER, MAN.

  • IT WAS ALL DOWN-- OR ALL UPHILL

  • I WOULD SAY.

  • I DECIDED TO GO TO DUKE, SERVED

  • OUT MY SENIOR YEAR.

  • I COMMITTED AT THE BEGINNING OF

  • MY SENIOR YEAR, AND FROM THERE,

  • WE WON A STATE CHAMPIONSHIP.

  • I PLAYED IN TWO ALL AMERICAN

  • GAMES.

  • THAT WHOLE YEAR I WAS BEING

  • SCOUTED FROM PRO SCOUTS.

  • THERE WAS CHRIS MULLINS FROM

  • GOLDEN STATE WARRIORS, JOHN

  • PAXTON FROM THE BULLS.

  • THESE GUYS ARE COMING TO MY HIGH

  • SCHOOL GAMES WHICH WAS CREATING

  • A LOT OF BUZZ IN A CITY LIKE

  • PEORIA, ILLINOIS, WHICH IS MORE

  • OF BIG TOWN, SMALL CITY.

  • SO FROM THERE, I JUST DECIDED TO

  • GO-- I DECIDED TO JUMP FROM

  • COLLEGE TO NBA BECAUSE I HAD A

  • POSSIBILITY OF BEING A TOP FIVE

  • DRAFT PICK.

  • >>AND YOU WERE?

  • >>FOUR.

  • >>ROUND NUMBER FOUR.

  • >>THAT'S RIGHT.

  • >>WHAT WAS IT LIKE, THE

  • TRANSITION FROM HIGH SCHOOL TO

  • THE PROS?

  • >> IT WAS AMAZING.

  • >>WHAT WAS THE STORY.

  • TELL ME THE STORY.

  • >>IT WAS AMAZING.

  • I MEAN, AGAIN, EVERYTHING

  • HAPPENED SO FAST.

  • SO IT WAS, YOU KNOW, IF I COULD

  • GO BACK JUST THINKING ABOUT

  • BEING IN THE MOMENT BECAUSE I

  • WAS ENJOYING THE RIDE.

  • BUT ALSO, TOO, I WAS TRYING TO

  • PREPARE MYSELF FOR THE FUTURE.

  • I KNEW WHAT I WAS DOING, ONLY

  • THREE OTHER GUYS THAT DID IT

  • BEFORE ME, STARTED WITH KEVIN

  • GARNET, DARIUS MILES, AND EDDIE

  • CURRY.

  • ALL THESE GUYS JUMPED FROM HIGH

  • SCHOOL TO THE PROS.

  • BUT I WAS GOING TO BE THE FIRST

  • POINT GUARD EVER TO JUMP FROM

  • HIGH SCHOOL TO THE NBA, AND SO

  • THAT WHOLE EXPERIENCE, YOU KNOW,

  • I WAS NERVOUS, BUT AT THE SAME

  • TIME, I KNEW I WAS MAKING THE

  • BEST DECISION FOR ME AND MY

  • FAMILY.

  • I ENDED UP GOING NUMBER FOUR TO

  • THE LOS ANGELES CLIPPERS,

  • STRAIGHT OUT OF HIGH SCHOOL.

  • BEING IN THE BIG CITY OF NEW

  • YORK, HAVING MY FAMILY WITH ME,

  • REPRESENTING MY HOME TOWN OF

  • PEORIA, ILLINOIS, YOU KNOW, THAT

  • WAS THE GREATEST FEELING IN THE

  • WORLD.

  • >>BUT THEN WHAT HAPPENED?

  • >> WELL, FROM THERE, I SERVED

  • OUT MY ROOKIE YEAR. I STARTED

  • OFF KIND OF ON ROCKY TERMS, JUST

  • WITH INJURIES.

  • I WAS SO YOUNG, BEING IN THE

  • NBA.

  • I THINK MENTALLY I WAS READY.

  • PHYSICALLY, I COULD HAVE TOOK

  • SOME TIME TO DEVELOP MORE.

  • THAT'S WHAT COLLEGE WOULD HAVE

  • PREPARED ME MORE. BUT

  • SKILL-WISE, I THOUGHT I WAS

  • READY, BUT I HAD SOME INJURIES.

  • AND I GOT OFF TO NOT SO FAST

  • START.

  • AND THEN BY MY THIRD YEAR, I HAD

  • A BIG KNEE INJURY THAT KIND OF

  • REALLY SET MY CAREER BACK.

  • >> BIG INJURY.

  • VIDEO OF THE INJURY IS PREFACED,

  • IF YOU ARE AT ALL QUEASY, DON'T

  • LOOK AT THIS VIDEO.

  • IT WAS DEVASTATING.

  • >>YES.

  • >>THE SURGERY ALABAMA, TWO

  • PHYSICIANS, IF THAT HAD HAPPENED

  • TEN YEARS BEFORE THAT, SHAUN

  • WOULDN'T HAVE MADE IT.

  • I UNDERSTAND, CORRECT ME, THAT

  • ONE OF THE PHYSICIANS IN FIRST

  • SEEING THE RESULTS SUGGESTED

  • THAT YOU MIGHT HAVE YOUR LEG

  • AMPUTATED.

  • >>EXACTLY.

  • >> SO IT COULDN'T HAVE BEEN A

  • WORSE INJURY, AND, YET, YOU NOW

  • ARE STARTING A THIRD OF THE TIME

  • WITH THE BROOKLYN NETS.

  • >>RIGHT.

  • >>HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT

  • TRANSITION.

  • >>I FEEL GREAT.

  • (LAUGHING) I FEEL GREAT, MAN.

  • IT IS A BLESSING.

  • I MEAN TO GO FROM WHERE I WAS TO

  • POSSIBLY HAVING A LEG AMPUTATED.

  • YOU TALK ABOUT THE POSSIBILITY

  • OF NEVER BEING ABLE TO WALK

  • RIGHT OR TO HOLD YOUR KIDS, TO

  • GO OUT AND DO THE SIMPLE THINGS

  • IN LIFE, NOT JUST BASKETBALL.

  • LET'S THROW BASKETBALL OUT THE

  • WINDOW.

  • WE ARE TALKING JUST ENJOYING THE

  • ESSENTIALS.

  • YOU KNOW, I APPRECIATE WHERE I

  • COME FROM.

  • I UNDERSTAND THE WORK THAT WENT

  • INTO IT, AND SO NOW I THINK THE

  • PASSION THAT I PLAY WITH OR THE

  • APPRECIATION THAT I HAVE FOR THE

  • GAME HAS HEIGHTENED BECAUSE OF

  • MY EXPERIENCES.

  • >>HOW DID YOU DO IT?

  • HOW DID YOU REHAB?

  • WHAT WAS THE TYPICAL DAY IN

  • REHABBING.

  • IF YOU DON'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT

  • IT, I UNDERSTAND.

  • I AM CURIOUS, DEVASTATION TO

  • STARTING IN ONE OF THE MOST

  • ELITE AREAS OF ATHLETICS.

  • >>YEAH.

  • >>FROM LYING ON FLOOR, ON THE

  • HARDWOOD FLOOR TO STARTING.

  • WHAT WAS THE REHAB PROCESS LIKE?

  • >> IT WAS GRUESOME BECAUSE FIRST

  • TWO WEEKS WAS THE WORSE. YOU

  • TALK ABOUT SLEEPING.

  • WE ARE TALKING ABOUT BEING ABLE

  • TO GET A GOOD NIGHT'S SLEEP.

  • COULDN'T DO THAT. I SLEEP ON MY

  • SIDE, MY STOMACH.

  • I GOT STAPLES UP AND DOWN MY

  • KNEE.

  • GOT TO SLEEP ON MY BACK.

  • SLEEP WITH SIX OR SEVEN PILLOWS

  • BETWEEN MY LEGS OR UP UNDER MY

  • LEGS TO PROP MY KNEE UP. NOW I

  • AM CRANKY EVERY DAY I AM WAKING

  • UP, GOING TO REHAB SEVEN DAYS A

  • WEEK.

  • START OUT SIX DAYS, SEVEN DAYS A

  • WEEK EVERY DAY.

  • THEN ONCE YOU GET DOWN THERE, WE

  • ARE TALKING PROBABLY FROM THE

  • TIME I HAD SURGERY 20-- NOT

  • EVEN, MAYBE 20-- MAYBE 18

  • HOURS, 24 HOURS FROM THE TIME

  • THAT I HAD SURGERY, THEY OPENED

  • ME UP, WHEELING ME DOWN TO THE

  • REHAB, TO START MY REHAB.

  • BECAUSE THE KEY WAS MOBILITY TO

  • GET MY KNEE BACK MOVING.

  • ONCE YOU HAVE SURGERY, IF YOU

  • HAVE-- I DON'T KNOW IF YOU HAD

  • SURGERY BEFORE, BUT SCAR TISSUE

  • SETS IN.

  • AND THAT'S THE HEALING PROCESS.

  • ONCE THE STAR TISSUE STARTS TO

  • SET IN, IT IS INITIALLY LIKE

  • STIFF.

  • USED TO PUT YOU IN A CAST FOR

  • WHATEVER, EIGHT WEEKS, TWO

  • MONTHS, THREE MONTHS.

  • ONCE YOU GET OUT OF THE CAST,

  • THEY START REHABBING YOU.

  • THEY LEARNED THAT WASN'T

  • WORKING.

  • ONCE YOU GET OUT THE CAST, YOU

  • CAN'T MOVE YOUR LEG.

  • IT IS INITIALLY STIFF.

  • IT IS LIKE STUCK.

  • SO THEY HAD ME SITTING DOWN

  • THERE IN THE REHAB CRANKING ON

  • MY LEG.

  • I MEAN I WAS PROBABLY SOME OF

  • THE WORST PAIN I HAVE EVER

  • EXPERIENCED.

  • PROBABLY EVEN MORE SO THAN MY

  • INJURY BECAUSE THAT PAIN WAS

  • NONSTOP FOR-- I MEAN, YOU KNOW,

  • PROBABLY TWO YEARS, A YEAR.

  • AND IT DWINDLED, IT WENT DOWN.

  • BUT INITIALLY IT STARTED OUT

  • VERY HIGH.

  • I HAVE A HIGH PAIN TOLERANCE,

  • BUT THE REHAB PROCESS GOING

  • THERE EVERY DAY, WAKING UP IN

  • THE MORNING, WHEELING MYSELF OUT

  • OF BED, ON CRUTCHES.

  • ON CRUTCHES THE FIRST SIX WEEKS.

  • BUT IT WAS DAILY, LIKE, YOU

  • KNOW, A MIND SET, MENTALLY

  • STRUGGLE TO, YOU KNOW, WAKE UP

  • KNOWING THAT YOU CAN'T PLAY

  • BALL, KNOWING YOU ARE NOT GOING

  • TO TOUCH A BALL.

  • CAN'T BE ON THE COURT.

  • YOUR TEAM IS PLAYING WITHOUT

  • YOU.

  • YOU HAVE HAD A CHANCE TO BE THIS

  • PLAYER THAT MAYBE EVERYBODY

  • THOUGHT.

  • YOU DON'T KNOW IF THAT'S

  • POSSIBLY EVER GOING TO COME

  • BACK.

  • YOU KNOW, A THEN YOU ARE TRYING

  • TO SHOOT FOR YOUR PERSONAL

  • GOALS.

  • IT IS DEMANDING AND IT CAN BE

  • CAN BE OVERWHELMING IF YOU LET

  • IT, BUT MAJORITY OF THE PROCESS

  • IS MENTAL.

  • THAT'S IT.

  • >> WHY DID YOU LET IT NOT

  • CONSUME YOU?

  • WHAT DROVE YOU AND WHAT DRIVES

  • YOU TODAY, SHAUN?

  • >> PASSION, MY PASSION FOR THE

  • GAME.

  • MY FAMILY, YOU KNOW, JUST I

  • THINK MY-- I THINK MORE SO MY

  • LEGACY OF BEING FROM THIS CITY

  • AND ALL THAT I HAVE BEEN

  • THROUGH, YOU KNOW, I THINK ALL

  • OF THE SUPPORT I HAVE HAD, AND

  • THEN, AS WELL, MY CRITICS AS

  • WELL.

  • I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE PEOPLE

  • THAT NECESSARILY DOUBTED ME AND

  • DIDN'T THINK I WAS CAPABLE OF

  • HANDLING WHAT I HAD ON MY PLATE,

  • EXPECTATIONS WISE.

  • AND I MEAN THAT'S ALWAYS PUSHED

  • ME.

  • MY EXPECTATION AS A COMPETITOR

  • WILL ALWAYS BE HIGHER THAN

  • EVERYBODY ELSE'S JUST BECAUSE

  • THAT'S WHO I AM AS A PERSON. SO

  • THAT WILL ALWAYS CONTINUE TO

  • DRIVE ME.

  • >>FEARS, HAVE ANY FEARS, HAVE

  • ANY CONCERNS?

  • >> I THINK FAILURE, ALWAYS

  • STARTED OUT AT A FEAR.

  • BUT OVER TIME, YOU KNOW, LIKE I

  • FEEL LIKE MY EXPERIENCES HAVE,

  • YOU KNOW, HELPED ME CONQUER MY

  • FEAR, NOT BEING AFRAID TO FAIL.

  • >>LOOKING AT STATISTICS,

  • WORLDWIDE TEN MILLION MEN PLAY

  • BASKETBALL, WORLDWIDE.

  • EVERY YEAR, THERE IS 60 DRAFTED,

  • 40 TYPICALLY MAKE IT.

  • SO THE POSSIBILITY OF STAYING

  • WITH A TEAM FOR THREE YEARS IS

  • LESS THAN THREE TENTHS OF ONE

  • PERCENT.

  • >>WOW.

  • >> THINK OF THOSE THAT WENT FROM

  • HIGH SCHOOL TO THE NBA.

  • WE HAVE LEBRON JAMES, SHAWN

  • KEMP.

  • WE HAVE SHAUN LIVINGSTON.

  • OF THOSE MADE IT, TOP 40 NBA

  • PLAYERS, TOP 40 IN TERMS OF

  • EFFICIENCIES, THE BULK OF THEM

  • CAME RIGHT FROM HIGH SCHOOL,

  • NEVER PLAYED COLLEGE BALL.

  • >>REALLY.

  • >>COLLEGE BALL, MAYBE YOU DIDN'T

  • MISSANYTHING.

  • EVER THOUGHT ABOUT THAT?

  • >> NO, I REALLY DON'T.

  • I MEAN THE MOST I THINK ABOUT IS

  • PROBABLY THE TOURNAMENT, MARCH

  • MADNESS.

  • EVERYBODY WANTS MARCH MADNESS.

  • THAT'S ONE OF THE GREATEST

  • THINGS IN SPORTS IS MARCH

  • MADNESS.

  • SO I THINK ABOUT IT, JUST WHAT

  • IT WOULD HAVE BEEN LIKE TO PLAY

  • FOR DUKE THAT YEAR OR HOWEVER

  • MANY YEARS I WOULD HAVE BEEN

  • PLAYING FOR DUKE AND GOING TO

  • THE TOURNAMENT.

  • I MEAN, YOU KNOW, THE BIG DANCE.

  • I THINK THAT'S EVERY COLLEGE

  • KID'S DREAM IN A SENSE.

  • >>WORKING OUT TODAY, WHAT IS

  • YOUR TYPICAL DAY LIKE, ASIDE

  • INTEREST A GAME DAY?

  • >> WAKE UP, BREAKFAST.

  • >>WHAT DO YOU HAVE FOR

  • BREAKFAST?

  • >> GOT TO HAVE EGGS.

  • GOT TO HAVE PROBABLY OATMEAL.

  • I PROBABLY HAVE OATMEAL,

  • PROTEIN, BROWN SUGAR, AND EITHER

  • CHOICE OF BREAKFAST MEAT, BACON

  • OR SAUSAGE, AND WATER AND

  • VITAMINS.

  • THAT'S GETS ME GOING.

  • THAT'S GIVES ME THE FUEL.

  • FROM THERE, I LIKE TO GET TO

  • PRACTICE EARLY SO I CAN WARM UP

  • AND GET MY BODY READY AND GET MY

  • MIND FOCUSED AND MORE SO MY BODY

  • READY FOR PRACTICE.

  • THEN I LIFT EITHER BEFORE OR

  • AFTER, MOSTLY AFTER.

  • I GET THERE AND I TRY TO GET UP

  • SHOTS BEFORE PRACTICE.

  • THAT GETS ME GOING.

  • WORK ON MY GAME INDIVIDUALLY.

  • WHETHER IT IS 10, 15 MINUTES,

  • JUST GET THERE, AND START

  • PUTTING IN WORK AND WORK ON MY

  • INDIVIDUAL GAME BEFORE WE WORK

  • ON THE TEAM SETS.

  • GET TO PRACTICE.

  • GO THROUGH PRACTICE.

  • AFTER PRACTICE, LIFT WEIGHTS.

  • WORK ON MY BODY, MY REHAB,

  • EXERCISES FOR MY KNEE.

  • FROM THERE, I WILL GO GET

  • TREATMENT, ICE DOWN, ALL THE

  • RECOVERY.

  • >>YOUR HOBBIES?

  • READING, I UNDERSTAND YOU DO A

  • LOT OF READING?

  • >> I DO.

  • I JUST HAVE BEEN GETTING INTO

  • IT, A PRE-GAME RITUAL, READING

  • BEFORE GAMES.

  • >>WHAT DO YOU READ BEFORE GAMES?

  • >> I JUST FINISHED A BOOK CALLED

  • "SIDDHARTHA."

  • >>THAT'S THE BOOK.

  • TELL ME ABOUT IT.

  • >>GREAT BOOK.

  • GREAT BOOK.

  • EASTERN PHILOSOPHY IN A SENSE.

  • IT IS ABOUT A WELL-TRAVELED MAN,

  • STARTS OUT AS A BOY, AND HIS

  • LIFE'S JOURNEY IS TO FIND PEACE,

  • LIKE TRUE HAPPINESS AND TRUE

  • PEACE.

  • HE SETS OUT, HE SETS OUT AS MORE

  • OF A HOLY MAN, REALLY, AND THEN

  • HE SETS OUT FIRST WITH ONE OF

  • HIS BROTHERS OR ONE OF HIS

  • FRIENDS HE GREW UP WITH.

  • THEY KIND OF SPREAD OFF AND THEY

  • GO SEPARATE WAYS, AND HE GOES

  • HIS OWN WAY, AND THEN HE KIND OF

  • TURNS INTO GAMBLING, YOU KNOW,

  • JUST WORLDLY POSSESSIONS, JUST

  • KIND OF LIVING AMONGST HIMSELF.

  • FROM THERE, HE GETS ALL THE WAY

  • TO THE BOTTOM OF THE ROAD, AND

  • HE CONTEMPLATES SUICIDE, AND HE

  • KIND OF HEARS THIS HOLY

  • EXPRESSION IN A SENSE OF A WORD,

  • EASTERN WORD "OM."

  • FROM THEM IT IS ALMOST A SENSE

  • OF PEACE BEING LIKE HE IS

  • FINDING HIMSELF.

  • IT IS A GREAT BOOK.

  • HE EVENTUALLY MEETS BACK UP WITH

  • HIS CHILDHOOD FRIEND, AND THEY

  • TAKE A LOOK BACK AT THEIR

  • JOURNEYS.

  • I CAN KIND OF RELATE TO THAT

  • WITH MY LIFE STORY AS WELL.

  • ARE YOU AT PEACE AT WITH

  • YOURSELF?

  • >>I BELIEVE I AM FINDING PEACE

  • EVERY YEAR.

  • I THINK I AM HAPPIER AND

  • HAPPIER.

  • THERE WAS A TIME, I AM ASKING A

  • QUESTION, WAS THERE A TIME IN

  • THIS REHAB PROCESS TO TODAY,

  • WHERE YOU ARE STARTING TO SLOWLY

  • FOR THE BROOKLYN NETS, INTEGRAL

  • PART OF THE TEAM, WHERE YOU

  • THOUGHT I THINK I AM GOING TO

  • QUIT.

  • DO YOU EVER THINK THIS WAS NOT

  • GOING TO WORK?

  • >> NO, I MEAN HONESTLY, WHEN I

  • WAS GOING THROUGH THE REHAB, NO.

  • I DIDN'T.

  • I DIDN'T.

  • I DIDN'T KNOW WHAT LEVEL I WAS

  • GOING TO COME BACK AT AND PLAY.

  • I DIDN'T KNOW IF I WAS GOING TO

  • BE A SHELL MY OLD SELF, BUT I

  • JUST FIGURED, JUST BEING THIS

  • YOUNG AND WITH MY WORK ETHIC, I

  • FELT LIKE I HAD TO-- I FELT

  • LIKE I HAD IT IN ME TO COME BACK

  • AND PLAY.

  • MENTALLY, YOU KNOW, I MEAN I WAS

  • A LITTLE OUT OF IT PROBABLY THE

  • FIRST TWO WEEKS WAS THE HARDEST

  • AFTER MY SURGERY BECAUSE I

  • SAW-- I SAW WHAT MY KNEES

  • LOOKED LIKE, AND I SAW JUST THE

  • MOUNTAIN PER SE THAT I HAD TO

  • CLIMB.

  • >>YOU CLIMBED IT?

  • >> IT WAS HIGH.

  • IT WAS HIGH.

  • >>LET'S TALK A LITTLE BIT ABOUT

  • THE BROOKLYN NETS, AND YOUR ROLE

  • THERE.

  • I WAS GOING THROUGH THE PAYROLL,

  • AND JOE JOHNSON IS 20MILLION,

  • AND DERON LIKE 18, AND SHAUN

  • MILLION TWO-TWO.

  • AND YET, YOU ARE NEARLY AS

  • VALUABLE, PERHAPS AS VALUABLE AS

  • WILLIAMS.

  • HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT

  • DIFFERENCE IN PAY?

  • IS THAT MEANINGFUL TO YOU?

  • IS THAT JUST THE WAY IT IS?

  • HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT GETTING

  • THE BALL FROM A GUY MAKING TEN

  • TIMES WHAT YOU MAKE?

  • >> YOU KNOW WHAT, HONESTLY, I

  • DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.

  • YOU KNOW, IT SOUNDS CLICHE, BUT,

  • YOU KNOW, FOR ME TO GO OUT THERE

  • AND THINK ABOUT WHAT ANOTHER MAN

  • IS MAKING OVER ME, WHILE WE ARE

  • PLAYING TOGETHER, I CAN'T-- YOU

  • KNOW, I JUST DON'T WORK THAT

  • WAY.

  • THAT'S ONE OF MY TEAMMATES AND

  • MY BROTHERS, AND I THINK WHEN WE

  • GO THROUGH, WHEN YOU ARE GOING

  • THROUGH A SEASON, 82 GAMES, YOU

  • HAVE TO BE UNIFIED IN ORDER TO

  • WIN IN THIS LEAGUE, IN THE NBA.

  • IT IS TOO HARD.

  • WE ARE TALKING THE BEST PLAYERS

  • IN THE WORLD.

  • LIKE WE ALL HAVE TO BE ON THE

  • SAME PAGE.

  • WOULD I MIND HAVING HIS

  • CONTRACT?

  • ABSOLUTELY NOT!

  • (LAUGHING).

  • >>BUY A COUPLE PAIR OF SHOES.

  • >>ABSOLUTELY NOT.

  • BUT WHEN WE ARE PLAYING

  • TOGETHER, THAT'S NOT REALLY A

  • FOCUS OF MINE.

  • I AM THINKING ABOUT THE GAME OF

  • BASKETBALL, WHAT IS IT GOING TO

  • TAKE TO WIN.

  • >>SPECIAL RELATIONSHIPS AMONG

  • THE TEAMMATES,

  • DO YOU FIND THAT EXISTS?

  • >> DEFINITELY.

  • >>EVEN THOUGH YOU HAVE GONE FROM

  • VARIOUS TEAMS, EVERY INSTANCE,

  • THERE IS A BLENDING OF

  • RELATIONSHIPS WITH ALL THE

  • TEAMMATES.

  • >>RIGHT.

  • >>MANY OF THEM, FIRST OF ALL.

  • >>IT IS NOT, BECAUSE OF THE

  • BUSINESS OF BASKETBALL, YOU

  • KNOW, MY SITUATION, I PLAY ON

  • EIGHT OR NINE TEAMS.

  • IT IS HARD TO REALLY GEL AND

  • MAKE TRUE FRIENDS BECAUSE YOU

  • ARE NOT AROUND EACH OTHER FOR

  • BUT A SEASON.

  • EIGHT, NINE MONTHS, EIGHT, EIGHT

  • MONTHS. BUT I MEAN YOU LOOK AT

  • PAUL PIERCE, KEVIN GARNET, THEY

  • WON CHAMPIONSHIP TOGETHER, THEY

  • PLAY TOGETHER MANY YEARS.

  • BEST FRIENDS IN THAT SENSE

  • BECAUSE THEY HAVE BEEN THROUGH

  • WAR TOGETHER.

  • LIKE MY GRANDFATHER AND, YOU

  • KNOW, ONE OF HIS BEST FRIENDS.

  • WHEN YOU HAVE EXPERIENCED WHAT

  • THEY HAVE EXPERIENCED AND GONE

  • THROUGH, YOU KNOW, THE DAILY

  • GRUELING BATTLES THAT THEY HAVE,

  • IT BUILDS CHARACTER.

  • IT BUILDS RESPECT.

  • I THINK THOSE ARE QUALITIES OF A

  • TRUE FRIEND.

  • >>KEVIN GARNET, LIKEWISE, FROM

  • HIGH SCHOOL TO THE PROS.

  • >>YES.

  • >>AND A LOT OF VERY GOOD PLAYERS

  • HAVE DONE THAT, SKIPPED COLLEGE.

  • ONLY OBSERVATION IN COLLEGE

  • GAMES TO PLAY.

  • SO YOU WENT FROM HIGH SCHOOL,

  • FROM 30 TO 82.

  • THAT WAS TOUGH.

  • >>THAT WAS THE TOUGHEST.

  • >>YOU HAVE AFRO.

  • >>(LAUGHING).

  • >>YOU CHANGED.

  • >>I DID.

  • LITTLE BIT MORE HAIR.

  • JUST A LITTLE BIT!

  • (LAUGHING).

  • >>I HAVE SEEN THE PICTURES, A

  • LOT MORE HAIR.

  • >>RIGHT.

  • >>THAT'S OKAY.

  • BUT THE POINT IS, ARE YOU A

  • DIFFERENT GUY NOW THAN YOU WERE

  • AND HOW ARE YOU DIFFERENT?

  • >> OF COURSE, OF COURSE.

  • >>WHAT DID YOU MAKE THAT FIRST

  • YEAR?

  • >> MONEY-WISE, THREE MILLION.

  • >>THREE MILLION.

  • 18 YEARS OLD, THREE MILLION,

  • AFTER TAX.

  • KEEP GOING.

  • >>RIGHT.

  • >>BUT IT IS STILL A KID, THOUGH.

  • STILL A KID.

  • YOU LOOK AT JUST WHAT I HAVE

  • BEEN THROUGH, 18 YEARS YOU CAN'T

  • SAY THAT YOU ARE, YES, I AM

  • STARTING TO PAY TAXES.

  • BUT I HAVE SOMEBODY WHO PREPARE

  • THOSE FOR ME!

  • (LAUGHING) SO, I MEAN, I HADN'T

  • REALLY EXPERIENCED LIFE THE WAY

  • I HAVE THESE LAST TEN YEARS, YOU

  • KNOW, AND I THINK FROM WHERE I

  • AM AT NOW, TO BACK THEN, I HAVE

  • BEEN THROUGH A LOT.

  • I THINK IT BUILT A LOT OF

  • CHARACTER.

  • I HAVE SEEN A LOT.

  • AND MY EXPERIENCES HAVE SHAPED

  • ME INTO WHO I AM.

  • WHAT IS IT LIKE BEING COACHED

  • BY--

  • >>GREAT.

  • >>HALL OF FAME.

  • >>IT IS GREAT.

  • IT CATAPULTED ME TO WHERE I AM

  • AT, HAVING A COACH LIKE THAT

  • WHO-- HE JUST FINISHED PLAYING.

  • HE UNDERSTANDS THE GAME AND

  • UNDERSTANDS THE PLAYERS, IN A

  • SENSE OF WHAT OUR NEEDS ARE.

  • >>HE BELIEVES IN YOU.

  • >>HE BELIEVES IN ME.

  • HE PETITIONED TO BRING ME TO

  • BROOKLYN.

  • AS SOON AS HE GOT THE JOB, I

  • MEAN I DON'T KNOW--MIGHT HAVE

  • BEEN A COUPLE WEEKS, MIGHT HAVE

  • BEEN A MONTH.

  • BUT I KNOW I GOT A CALL FROM HIM

  • SAYING THAT HE WANTED ME TO COME

  • TO BROOKLYN.

  • I WAS HIS TOP CHOICE.

  • >>YOU KNEW HIM BEFORE?

  • >> PLAYED AGAINST HIM.

  • I KNEW AS FAR AS BATTLING GOING

  • AGAINST HIM.

  • HE'S POINT GUARD AS WELL.

  • >>IT IS VERY UNUSUAL A GUY YOUR

  • SIZE TO BE A POINT GUARD.

  • AND YOUR STRONGEST SUIT AS AN

  • ATHLETE IS POINT GUARD.

  • WHAT DISTINGUISHES YOU FROM MOST

  • OF THE OTHER POINT GUARDS?

  • >> FIRST, JUST TANGIBLES, MY

  • HEIGHT, LENGTH, BEING 6'7.

  • THAT'S AN ADVANTAGE RIGHT THERE.

  • ONCE I GET MY SPOTS ON THE

  • FLOOR, YOU KNOW, USUALLY I CAN

  • PASS OVER, I CAN SEE OVER MY

  • OPPONENT.

  • SO THAT'S NUMBER ONE.

  • THEN FROM THERE, I JUST THINK

  • USING MY ABILITIES TO HELP OTHER

  • PLAYERS.

  • BEING A POINT GUARD, YOU HAVE TO

  • BE ABLE TO HANDLE THE BALL, AND

  • YOU HAVE TO BE ABLE TO PASS THE

  • BALL.

  • >>BUT NOT SHOOTING GUARD.

  • >>RIGHT.

  • >>HOW DO YOU FEEL ABOUT THAT,

  • THAT YOU ARE THE DIRECTOR?

  • >>RIGHT.

  • >>BUT YOU ARE NOT THE PERFORMER.

  • >>RIGHT.

  • WELL, THE DIRECTOR GETS MAJOR

  • CREDITS!

  • (LAUGHING) YOU KNOW!

  • THE DIRECTOR.

  • >>MAKES THEM ALL LOOK PRETTY

  • GOOD.

  • >>RIGHT.

  • HE IS THE ONE THAT GETS THE

  • CREDIT, BIGGEST CREDIT.

  • >>YES.

  • >>POINT GUARD AND QUARTERBACK,

  • TO ME, ONE OF THE HARDEST

  • POSITIONS IN SPORTS.

  • THEY ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE

  • TEAM.

  • A LOT OF PRESSURE, THEY ARE AN

  • EXTENSION OF THE COACH, A LOT OF

  • THE PRESSURE, YOU KNOW, THE

  • CRITICISM AND, YOU KNOW, THE

  • REVIEWS AS FAR AS THE CREDIT

  • GETS LABELED TO THE POINT GUARD

  • OR BEST PLAYER, OR THE COACH,

  • HEAD COACH.

  • SO I RELISH IT.

  • IT IS NATURAL.

  • TO ME, I HAVE BEEN PLAYING IT

  • SINCE I WAS, I DON'T KNOW, FIVE

  • YEARS, SIX YEARS OLD.

  • I LOVED HANDLING THE BALL.

  • I HAVE HAD A BALL WITH ME EVERY

  • WHERE I WENT.

  • >>BALL AND BOOKS.

  • >>YEAH, BOOKS.

  • >>YOUR GRANDFATHER THOUGHT YOU

  • WOULD BE A LAWYER OR DOCTOR.

  • >>HE WANTED ME TO BE.

  • >>AND YOU COULD HAVE--

  • >>YES.

  • >>-- HAD YOU CHOSEN.

  • >>CHOSEN TO GO TO SCHOOL, YEAH.

  • SPORTS WAS DEFINITELY ALWAYS MY

  • FIRST LOVE, FOR SURE.

  • >>YOU REMEMBER EARLY ON, ALWAYS

  • HANDLING A BASKETBALL, AND WHEN

  • DID YOU THINK IT YOU COULD MAKE

  • IT TO THE PRO?

  • >>REALISTICALLY?

  • >> YES.

  • >>TO WHERE IT WASN'T A DREAM ANY

  • MORE.

  • YEAH, IT WAS STILL A DREAM.

  • IT WAS STILL A DREAM, BUT I MEAN

  • PROBABLY REALISTICALLY, I WOULD

  • SAY-- I WOULD PROBABLY SAY

  • JUNIOR GOING INTO SENIOR YEAR.

  • >>AT CENTRAL.

  • >>YES.

  • JUNIOR YEAR, GOING INTO SENIOR

  • YEAR.

  • GUYS WERE GOING-- IT WAS

  • TRENDING.

  • THAT'S THE NEW WORLD NOW.

  • IT WAS TRENDING.

  • I MEAN IT WAS LIKE YOU WERE

  • SEEING MORE HIGH SCHOOL TO PROS

  • ATHLETES.

  • I THINK IT WAS FOUR OF THEM IN

  • 2003, LEBRON OBVIOUSLY COMES TO

  • MIND.

  • >>1.8 PER YEAR INCIDENTALLY.

  • >>WE HAD EIGHT OR NINE.

  • >>THAT MAKE IT.

  • >>THAT WENT TO THE FIRST ROUND.

  • ALL OF US MADE IT FOR, FOUR,

  • FIVE YEARS, I AM NOT SURE HOW

  • MANY IS LEFT. BUT I MEAN IT

  • WAS, YOU KNOW, IT WAS A LOT

  • GOING ON.

  • SO THERE WAS A CHANCE, I WAS

  • LIKE MAYBE I COULD BE ONE OF

  • THESE KIDS BECAUSE I WAS PLAYING

  • AGAINST SOME OF THE COMPETITION

  • TWO YEARS PRIOR TO THAT.

  • I AM PLAYING AGAINST SOME OF

  • THESE PLAYERS THAT ARE ALREADY

  • GOING OUT TO THE PROS AND KIND

  • OF MEASURING MYSELF UP WITH

  • THEM.

  • I AM LIKE, YOU KNOW WHAT, I MEAN

  • IF THIS GUY HAS A CHANCE, I MAY

  • HAVE A CHANCE.

  • I MEAN, I AM NOT THINKING, OH, I

  • AM FROM PEORIA, ILLINOIS, I WILL

  • NEVER HAVE-- NO, I AM THINKING,

  • I AM ON THE SAME COURT, TYING UP

  • THE SAME SHOES, PLAYING WITH THE

  • SAME BALL, LIKE, YOU KNOW, I GOT

  • A CHANCE, TOO.

  • >>A HUNDRED YEARS FROM NOW, WE

  • ARE BOTH GHOSTS, PROGRAM LIKE

  • THIS, TALKING TO THE NEXT SHAUN

  • LIVINGSTON.

  • THE NEXT SHAUN LIVINGSTON, YOU

  • KNOW, I REMEMBER THIS OTHER

  • SHAUN LIVINGSTON GUY.

  • HE WAS WHAT?

  • >> RESILIENT.

  • RESILIENT.

  • YOU KNOW, I MEAN THAT'S THE

  • BUILDING BLOCKS.

  • IT IS LIKE I THINK THAT GOES

  • INTO WHAT I DO, HOW I LIVE,

  • AGAIN, MY GRANDFATHER HIS QUOTE

  • OF NO EXCUSES.

  • JUST RESILIENCE, NO MATTER WHAT

  • HAPPENS, YOU KNOW, YOU JUST KEEP

  • MOVING FORWARD.

  • DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TO ACCEPT

  • YOUR, YOU KNOW, YOU DON'T HAVE

  • TO ACCEPT WHAT HAPPENS, BUT YOU

  • CAN MAKE YOUR OWN CIRCUMSTANCES.

  • I THINK THAT'S A MINDSET,

  • MENTALLY JUST TO BE RESILIENT.

  • >>THIS HAS BEEN MY PRIVILEGE

  • >>THIS HAS BEEN MY PRIVILEGE

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