As a scientist, artist and inventor,

作為一個科學家 藝術家 發明家

da Vinci's genius led to an unprecedented body of work.

達文西的天才帶來了前所未有的成就

The drawings he left behind remain as testaments

他留下的繪畫 證實了

to his innovation and originality.

他的革新能力和原創能力

One of da Vinci's main inhibitions was the lack of materials

達文西受到的一個主要限制 就是缺少所需材料

he needed to transform his concepts into reality.

將他的想法變為現實

Jacque Fresco is also a self-taught scientist, architect and inventor.

雅克·法斯科也是一位自學成才的科學家 建築師 發明家

For his entire life, he has been deeply committed to investigation,

在他的一生中 他一直致力於深入探索

insight and innovation.

洞察 創新

A prolific creator and builder,

作為一個多產的創造者和建立者

Jacque has been redesigning our entire culture for most of his life.

雅克用一生中大部分的時間 一直在重新設計我們的整個文化

While da Vinci needed advanced materials,

就像達文西需要先進的材料一樣

Fresco has lacked access to the social and political resources needed

雅克·法斯科一直缺乏所需的社會和政治資源

to realize his most far-reaching ideas.

來實現他大部分深遠的想法

AUGUST, 1974

1974年8月

(Larry King) My guest is an extraordinary Miamian, Dr. Jacque Fresco.

我的客人是一位非凡的邁阿密人 雅克·法斯科博士

I could go through all the things that Dr. Fresco has done.

我來通敘一下法斯科博士的成就

He's a social engineer, industrial engineer, designer, inventor,

他是一位社會工程師 工業工程師 設計師 發明家

was a consultant for Rotorcraft Helicopter,

曾是旋翼直升機的設計顧問

director of Scientific Research Laboratories, Los Angeles,

洛杉磯科研實驗室的主任

designed and copyrighted various items

設計過受版權保護的各種物品

ranging from drafting instruments to X-ray units,

範圍包括從繪圖儀器到X光機元件等

has had works published in The Architectural Records,

曾在《建築實錄》

Popular Mechanics, Saturday Review, and has been

《大眾機械》《週六評論》上發表過作品

a technical and psychological consultant of the motion picture industry,

也曾是電影業的技術與心理顧問

a member of the air force design development unit at Wright Field,

萊特機場空軍設計及開發部門的成員

developed the electrostatic anti-icing systems,

開發了靜電防冰凍系統

designed prefabricated aluminum houses...

設計過用鋁預制的房屋

What does it say on your driver's license?

你駕照上是寫什麼?

What is the occupation? - Industrial Designer

你主要的職業是什麼? -工業設計師

- Jacque, do you - Social Engineer

-雅克 你... -社會工程師

- Does it bug you that people,

-你會感到困擾嗎?

when they talk about Jacque Fresco in Miami, say that

因為邁阿密的人說到你的時候 都會說

he's someone who's too far ahead of this time? His thinking, is....

他遠超於這個時代 他的想法是...

"We're not ready for advanced kind of thinking." Not that type.

我們還接受不了如此超前的想法

Does it bug you? - I imagine every creative person in every field

這些話給你帶來困擾嗎? 我能想像到 每個領域的每位

encounters that sort of problem. No, it doesn't. I can't afford it.

開創性人物 都會遇到此類問題 這沒困擾到我 我沒有精力考慮這些

There's too many things that are important.

還有很多重要的事等著我

DocFlix Movies Presents

DocFlix Movies呈獻

A Film By William Gazecki

製片:William Gazecki

Future by Design

《設計未來》

Music By Diane Louie

音樂:Diane Louie

Drawings & Model Animations By Jacque Fresco

繪畫及模型動畫:雅克·法斯科

Directed & Narrated By William Gazecky

導演和旁白:William Gazecki

Jacque Fresco is a futurist.

雅克·法斯科也是一位未來學家

A futurist is someone for whom all thoughts and actions

未來學家就是那些將思想和行動

are based upon what tomorrow could be.

建立在明天會怎樣之上的人

He has been planning for the future since the 1920s.

他從1920年代以來 一直都在規劃未來

Not only is he a philosopher and theorist,

他不僅是一位哲學家和理論家

but an engineer, industrial designer and social planner.

還是一位工程師 工業設計師和社會規劃者

As a multi-disciplinarian, he has studied everything from theology

作為一個跨領域的研究者 他已研究了從神學

to behaviorism, and from biology to the material sciences.

到行為主義 和從生物學到材料科學的各種知識

Jacque Fresco, doesn't want to just talk about

雅克·法斯科並不想只談論

what today will be like, tomorrow.

今天會怎樣發展成明天

He has a plan to build an entire new world from the ground up.

他有一個計劃 就是從頭建立一個全新的世界

(Gazecki) I'd like to go from

(記錄片導演Gazecki) 我想從你

the time you first started conceiving of drawings.

什麼時候開始構思這些畫聊起

- Started drawing? Well, that's very early.

開始畫? 那是很早的事了

Eight, nine... eight or nine years old.

大概八九歲的時候

- About the future? - Yes.

-關於未來的? -是的

I was always interested in the future as far back as I can remember.

從我能記得事物算起 我就一直對未來感到興趣

There was a motion picture called Metropolis.

那時有部叫作《大都會》的電影

It was different; it took my attention.

很不尋常 吸引了我的注意

It was the first out-of-the-box type movie.

這是第一部"打破框架"這類的電影

It depicted the future as a regimented system,

它將未來社會描繪成一個 備受管制的體系

which was totally unacceptable,

讓人完全無法接受

but the architecture was interesting and the robotics

不過裡面的建築很有意思 裡面的機器人

in that film were interesting.

也很有意思

I drew airplanes and cities of the future,

我繪製了未來的飛機和城市

underwater cities, floating cities,

水下城市 還有水上漂浮城市

and skyscrapers with landing platforms on them.

和帶有著陸平台的摩天大樓

I drew my idea of what a post office ought to be.

我繪製了我想像中郵局的樣子

Since the airport was so far from the post office,

因為飛機場離郵局很遠

they had a truck deliver that. I figured, here's these long post offices,

人們就用拖車遞送郵件 我就想 既然這些郵局都那麼長

but why couldn't we land on top, pick up the mail directly, and fly onward?

為何飛機不在郵局頂上著陸 直接裝上郵件後繼續飛行?

So, I would draw landing platforms on the rooftops of the buildings,

於是我就繪製了 在建築物上的著陸平台

slightly angular, so the airplane didn't have trouble landing.

略帶斜角 使飛機降落時不會遇到麻煩

It couldn't be as long, but it would be slowed up by the incline.

著陸距離就無需太長 因為利用了斜坡緩衝減速

But then on take-off, they would go in reverse.

然後又可反向離地起飛

Then I tried ships, drawings of passenger/freighter ships,

接著我又在輪船上嘗試:繪製了客船貨船

then aircraft carriers.

還有航空母艦

And I showed it to my principal

我把這些作品給我校長看

So he said "I'm going to give you a letter."

於是他說:「在夏天

And during the summer,

如果你能設法到達國家標準局

if you can manage to get to the Bureau of Standards,

我就會給你一封介紹信

I know a Doctor Dickinson, who is the chief of the Heat & Power Division.

我認識Dickinson博士 他是熱能與能源部門的主任」

And so I went to the Bureau of Standards.

所以我去了國家標準局

Dr. Dickinson looked at my drawings and he said,

Dickinson博士看了我的草圖後

"Have you ever heard of Bucky Fuller?" I said, "No."

他說:"你聽說過巴克敏斯特·富勒嗎?" 我說:"沒有"

I think I must have been 14, 14 1/2, somewhere around that.

我想我當時是14歲或14歲半 大約那年紀

So he said, "Would you like to meet him?"

於是他又說:"你想見他嗎?"

I said, "Yeah, sure. Is he... What is he?"

我說:"好 但他是誰啊?"

He said, "He's an inventor, like you.

他說:"他是像你一樣的發明家

He thinks up a lot of new things."

他想出許多新發明"

Buckminster Fuller was one of the 20th century's most renown futurists.

但富勒先生是20世紀最知名的未來學家之一

Known primarily as the inventor of the Geodesic dome,

主要因為發明網格球型屋頂建築而聞名

Fuller was a proponent of using technology with a humanistic approach.

富勒是人性化使用科技的倡議者

(Jacque) Dr. Dickinson took me out there to see Fuller.

(法斯科) Dickinson博士帶我去見富勒

And there was Bucky Fuller.

當我見到巴克敏斯特·富勒時

He was seated there with his car called the Dymaxium.

他坐在自己稱為Dymaxion的車上

I talked to him about social things. I said,

我跟他討論社會問題 我說:

"What about changing society to some other form,

你對把社會改變成其它形態

whereby all people can benefit from the works of industry?"

使其中所有人從產業中受益怎麼看?

He said, "What do you mean?" I said, "Well if...

他說:"你的意思是?" 我說:"嗯...

instead of working people going out on strike,

相對於讓那些工人上街罷工

give them a piece of the action.

不如讓他們都享有利潤

And so if business improved, they all got automatic pay.

這樣如果生意好 工人自然得到工資

If it went down, they got less pay."

如果生意差 就得的少"

So, he sat back and he said,

然後他往後一坐並說:

"What are you, some kind of social planner?

"你是誰 社會規劃者之類的人嗎?

Is that what you want to be?" I said, "I don't know what the name is,

你想成為那樣的人嗎?" 我說:"我不知道名稱是什麼

but I think that would work. It would give people more incentive."

但我想這些會有效 那會更激勵人們"

He says, "Let me tell you something. It's tough enough

他說:"我得告訴你一些事

just getting a new automobile out there.

讓人們接受新型汽車都已經很難了

If you're trying to change society..."

如果你要試著改變社會 ..."

This was years before he even lectured on things.

這就是多年前他曾講過的事

(Gazecki) Albert Einstein once said

(導演Gazecki) 阿爾伯特·愛因斯坦 曾說過:

"The problems we have cannot be solved

"我們不能用產生問題時的思維方式

at the same level of thinking with which we created them."

來解決這個問題"

- Did you meet Einstein, Albert Einstein? - Yes.

-你見過阿爾伯特·愛因斯坦嗎? -是的

- Where did you get the idea to meet Albert Einstein?

-你怎麼會想到去見愛因斯坦?

- I was outside a theater called Radio City

-我在一個叫做"電波城"的劇場外面

and I saw a woman come out with grey hair sticking up.

然後看到一個翹著灰髮的女人出來

I said, "It looks like Einstein's sister" to my friends!

"看起來像是愛因斯坦的姐姐" 我對朋友這麼說

And then Einstein came out. And I think it was his sister.

接著愛因斯坦出來了 我就確認那是他姐姐了

I was just kidding about that.

剛才那只是個笑話

And I walked over and I said, "Is it possible to meet with you?"

總之我走過去問他:"我可以拜訪你嗎?"

He said, "Why?" I said, "I have thousands of questions I want to ask."

他說:"為什麼?" 我說:"我有很多問題想問你"

He said, "I live in Princeton, New Jersey."

但他說:"我住在新澤西的普林斯頓"

- So tell me about the day you went and met him.

-那告訴我你拜訪他那天的情況

- Well, I went to his home, and it was modest.

-嗯 我去了他家 簡樸的家

I said that there seems to be harmony in nature.

我說:"大自然看似和諧

"How do you feel about that?"

你覺得呢?"

He says, "Yes, the universe is lawful,

他說:"是的 宇宙是有其規律的

but 'harmony', I don't know what you mean by that."

但我不理解你用『和諧』這個詞的意思"

I said, "Well, when a rat eats insects,

我說:"比如 老鼠吃昆蟲

it may be supporting the rat system, but what about the insect system?"

這對老鼠族群有利 但對昆蟲又是如何?"

What he did is he used some water from the backyard swamp water,

於是他就從後院取了一些沼澤裡的水

and he put it under a microscope and he said, "Look,

放在顯微鏡下 說:"看吧

everything is fighting everything else.

一切事物都在互相鬥爭

In the human body, everything is fighting everything else.

人體內的一切也是如此互相鬥爭

In the ocean, big fish eat little fish".

在海洋裡 大魚吃小魚"

I didn't really have enough time to sit there with Einstein

我沒有足夠的時間坐在那裡

and go through all kinds of things,

來跟愛因斯坦探討一切

because he didn't seem to be in that area.

因為他似乎對那些領域並不瞭解

He did (imitating Einstein) "Are you interested in mathematics?"

他說:"你對數學感興趣嗎?" (法斯科模仿愛因斯坦)

(still mocking) Mathematics... are you interested...

(繼續模仿) "數學 你感興趣嗎...

"What boolean geometry means to you?" You know.

布爾幾何對你意味著什麼?" 你知道的

I didn't wanted to get off into that

我不想就這個深入下去

because, to me, that would be a sidetrack.

因為對我來說 那不是重點

Mathematics is a tool, just like sociology and anthropology.

數學只是一個工具 就像社會學和人類學一樣

These are all instruments that go into making up the future.

這些都是用來發展未來的工具

(Gazecki) When the stock market crashed in 1929, Jacque was only 13 years old.

(導演Gazecki) 當1929年股市崩盤時 雅克·法斯科只有13歲

Coming of age during The Great Depression prompted many questions

此後迎來了大蕭條時期 促使這位好奇

for the curious and inquisitive young man.

且好問的年輕人 提出了許多問題

Living in New York City, he found the squalor

住在紐約的他 對四周的各種苦難

and suffering around him difficult to understand.

感到難以理解

The confusion, contradictions and struggles he saw

他看到的各種混亂 矛盾和掙扎

left a significant impact on his character.

對他的性格留下重大影響

(Jacque) Things were so bad, that I had no way of looking at it.

(法斯科) 當時的悲慘狀況讓我不忍睹視

And I thought the rules of the game were somehow screwed up.

我覺得社會的遊戲規則出現了嚴重問題

I went to many different meetings: communist meetings,

我參加過許多不同的集會 共產主義的

socialist meetings, fascist meetings,

社會主義的 法西斯主義的

Mankind United, technocracy,

人類聯合的 技術統治論的

to see what the world was teaching, including Eastern philosophy.

去學習包括東方哲學等世界上的教導

And I wanted to know what people thought, what they wanted,

我想知道人們思考什麼 想要什麼

why they gelled on one system.

為什麼他們集結在一個體系下

And that each time a society arrived at a system

而每當社會形成一種體系

they tend to keep that system. They didn't even try to go beyond that.

人們就傾向於固守該種體系 他們甚至不會試著超越

But in technology, whenever we made anything, we try to surpass it.

但在科技上 我們總會試著不斷超越已有的東西

The history of civilization, to me then, was the history of change.

對我來說 人類文明的歷史 是一部不斷改變的歷史

Social change, human arrangements,

社會的改變 人們的安排

homes, boats, planes, trains;

家庭 輪船 飛機 火車等

all of them were in the process of social evolution,

這些都處於社會演化的過程中

including our language, our outlook, our values, our behavior.

包括我們的語言 眼界 價值觀 行為

(Gazecki) As the Depression wore on, Jacque left New York

(導演Gazecki) 隨著大蕭條的繼續 雅克·法斯科離開紐約

and started hitchhiking around the country.

開始搭便車周遊全國

In his travels he met many interesting and different people,

在旅途中 他遇到了很多有趣和與眾不同的人

most of whom were, like himself, searching for a way of life

大部份人也像他一樣 在尋找一種

that was fair and equitable.

公平公正的生活方式

Eventually, he ended up traveling to the warm waters

最終他的旅行結束在有著溫暖水域

and primitive islands of Tahiti.

和原始島嶼的大溪地

(Jacque) I wanted to go to the south seas because I liked the idea

(法斯科) 我想去南部海域 因為我很喜歡

of the natives sharing things; I've read about that.

當地人互相分享的理念 我從書上讀到過

Now, the chief, if he had six wives, and you were strange,

例如 如果當地酋長有6個老婆 而你又是外地人

he'd say, "Here's my best wife. Maybe she will please you?"

他會說:"這是我最好的老婆 或許她會讓你感到快樂?"

They felt their wives gave them so much joy,

他們認為老婆給自己帶來如此多的快樂

perhaps they'd give a visitor some joy.

或許同樣也可以給訪客帶來一些快樂

Their thinking about it was different. And that upset...

他們的思維跟我們不同 這讓我感到困擾...

It caused me to ponder "gee, that's not the way I saw things.

讓我開始深思:"天啊 這不同於我看待事情的方式

Was that the way I saw things, or was that the way I was indoctrinated?"

我看待事情的方式是自然而然形成 還是被灌輸的?"

That's when I began to ask those questions.

從那時起我開始問自己此類問題

How do you know that anything you like makes sense, Jacque?

你怎麼知道你喜歡的事是對的呢 雅克?

What about your own values? Think about them; maybe they are senseless.

你自己的價值觀是怎樣的? 想一想 也許它們根本不通情理

[Pearl Harbor - December 7, 1941]

1941年12月7日 珍珠港

(Gazecki) Concerned that Tahiti would be invaded,

(導演Gazecki) 考慮到大溪地可能會被入侵 雅克返回美國本土

Jacque returned to the US and joined the army air corps.

加入了陸軍航空兵

When the war was over, thousands of factories stood idle.

當戰爭結束後 成千上萬的工廠被閒置

Their manufacturing capacity no longer needed for wartime production.

因為它們戰時的生產能力 戰後已不再需要

Capitalizing on the tremendous capacity available for aluminum fabrication,

為了利用鋁製造業的巨大用途

Jacque designed and built a house made entirely from aluminum extrusions.

雅克·法斯科設計和建造了 完全由鋁制材料擠壓而成的房子

The result was an innovative and extremely efficient use

結果顯示這樣對於時間和材料的利用

of time and materials.

極端創新且高效

(Jacque) The windows, for example, were put in and then

(法斯科) 例如先放入玻璃

extrusions snapped in and set with a seal.

再將鋁制擠壓成品嵌入 並與之密合

And so it was very rapid. It took something like twelve minutes

過程非常快 弄完所有的窗戶

to put all the windows in.

只要大約12分鐘

Eight hours to put up the building.

搭建整個建築只需八小時

1948, it was unveiled at Warner Bros,

1948年這個建築在華納兄弟公司亮相時

and there were lines all around the studio.

工作室外排著長隊

Thousands of people had come to see it. And airplanes...

很多人前來圍觀 天上的飛機

smoke... written through the sky.

在空中用煙霧打出

"Visit The Trend Home at Warner Bros. Studio."

歡迎參觀華納兄弟公司的潮流屋

It was publicized in newspapers. I think the Architectural Record...

在當時報紙上也出版了 我想《建築實錄》雜誌

as one of the first mass-produced type homes.

將它作為首類可大量產出的房子中的一種進行報導

(Gazecki) Jacque appreciated the challenges of innovative problem solving.

(導演Gazecki) 雅克·法斯科喜歡用創新的方法解決問題

As he honed his skills, he became a competent inventor.

隨著他不斷磨練技能 他成為了一位稱職的發明者

He always had a research lab and was constantly inventing new products.

他有一個研究實驗室 總能不斷創造出新產品

While much of his time was spent pursuing his own interests,

當他把大部分時間花在追求自己的興趣上時

he was also hired by entrepreneurs to design and fabricate

他也被企業聘請去設計和製作特定的發明

specific inventions, working in a very broad array of technologies.

在範圍非常廣泛的技術領域裡工作

He invented everything from medical and dental devices

他發明了很多東西 從醫療和牙科設備

to 3D motion picture projection systems.