♪ It's easy if you try ♪

這不難 只要你嘗試

♪ No hell below us ♪

底下沒有地獄

♪ Above us, only sky ♪

頂上只有蒼穹

♪ Imagine all the people ♪

想像全人類

♪ Living for today ♪

為今天而活

♪ Imagine there's no countries ♪ [ Applause ]

想像沒有國家

[ Applause ]

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♪ It isn't hard to do ♪ [ Applause ]

這並不難做到

You know, we were all brought up to believe

你懂的 我們所有人都被養大去相信

that everyone should have a right to their own opinion.

每個人應該要有表達自我意見的權利

Now let me tell you the danger of that.

現在讓我告訴你這樣做的危險

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

If your sister lived across the way from me,

如果你的姐妹住在我家對面

and I see ten guys coming out her apartment,

然後我看到十個人從她的公寓走出來

I can have all kinds of opinions.

我就可以有各種想法

She can be a language instructor, ballet instructor;

她可能是個語言老師 芭蕾舞老師

but if you give everybody a right to their own opinion,

但如果你給每個人表達自己意見的權利

it becomes damaging.

那就危險了

Because, I remember the beginning of the space program.

因為我記得太空計畫的一開始

Somebody said, "You wouldn't see man on the moon for a thousand years."

有人說：「你再過一千年都不會看到人類出現在月球上的」

A guy like that should say,

但像那樣的人應該要說：

"I don't know enough about rocketry, I don't know anything about space travel,

「我對火箭懂得不夠多　我不懂任何關於太空旅行的事

therefore I can't give you an answer."

因此我無法給你一個答案」

Learning how to say "I don't know" is the most difficult thing.

學著去說：「我不知道」是最困難的事

[ Applause ]

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Don't take my word for anything.

不要把我的話當作一切

Just ask any congressman, "How would you stop automobiles from hitting each other?"

只要問任何一位國會議員：「你如何使汽車免於彼此相撞？」

"I don't know."

「我不知道」

"How can you increase the agricultural yield so everyone can eat?"

「你如何增加農產量　使每個人都能吃到食物？」

"I don't know."

「我不知道」

What the hell do they know?

那他們到底知道啥鬼？

Our problems today are not political.

我們今日的問題不是政治性的

A hundred years ago politics was alright, not that good.

幾百年前政治是還可以的　但不是那麼好

Today our problems are technical.

今日我們的問題是技術性的

Everything that you have: your radio, your television, your airplanes, your transportation;

你擁有的任何東西：你的收音機　電視　飛機　交通工具

is all technical.

全部都是技術性的

If it wasn't for technology you'd be pulling boats along the Volga river.

要不是科技　你將會沿著伏爾加河(Volga River)拖曳船隻

It's technology that moves things forward.

正是科技驅動著事物在進步

Lighting, transportation, tunnels under the ground bringing water to you.

燈光　交通工具　地底隧道把水運給你

If you turned off all the dams, all the refrigerators,

如果你關閉所有水壩　所有冰箱

all the food in all the refrigerators would spoil immediately.

所有冰箱裡的食物將會立即壞掉

All traffic would come to a stop.

所有的交通將會停止

Now people say, "Well, the trouble with you Jacque,

現在人們說：「雅克　你的問題在於

is you want to give people things for nothing."

你想要給人們東西而不計代價」

I'm sure you've heard that.

我相信你聽過這種質疑

Let me tell you a little bit about "things for nothing."

讓我稍微告訴你關於「不勞而獲」

Just being born in any technical country today,

只要出生在今日任何一個有科技的國家

you got the lights, the telephone, the washing machine, air transportation;

你有電燈　電話　洗衣機　空中運輸

you had nothing to do with that.

但你卻與這些絲毫無關(創造　發明　生產等)

You got it for nothing, just being born here.

那你就是不勞而獲　只因為出生在該地

[ Applause ]

[掌聲]

The only trouble is businessmen want things for nothing,

唯一的麻煩是商人想要不勞而獲

without putting out anything, for nothing.

卻又不無償釋出任何東西

So you have a society that's a predatory society.

因此就有一種掠奪性的社會出現

If you get your car banged up, somebody makes money fixing it.

如果你的汽車弄壞了　某人就能從修理中賺錢

You get a toothache,

如果你牙齒痛

the dentist makes a thousand five hundred for a root canal job.

牙醫師就從牙根管治療中　賺到1500塊錢

So everybody makes money on every form of misery.

所以每個人都從各種形式的不幸中賺錢

Now, when a doctor says, "Your kidney has to come out,"

當一位醫師說：「你必須換腎」

is he trying to pay off a new car or does your kidney have to come out?

他是要試著用手術費付新車的錢　或是你真的必須換腎？

So, they use the word "trust." Really there's no such thing.

所以他們使用一個字：信任　但說真的　沒有這種東西

Everybody signs contracts 'cause they don't trust each other.

每個人都簽約　因為人人皆不信任彼此

Think about it.

想想看這一點

Then you got the religious people, another interesting group.

接著是宗教人士　另一群有趣的團體

They really believe there's a guy up in the clouds that made the man and the woman,

他們真的相信在雲端裡　有一個人製造出男人和女人

and put them in a beautiful garden;

然後把他們放在一個美麗的花園內

of course later on he kicked them out.

當然之後又把他們踢走了

This is an all loving guy, by the way.

順帶一提　祂愛著所有人

He kicked them out of this beautiful garden and then

祂把他們從這個美麗的花園中轟走

he looks down at the earth and he doesn't like the way things are going,

然後祂往下看著地面　不喜歡事物進行的樣子

so he creates bubonic plague that kills half of the earth's population.

所以祂就創造鼠疫　殺死地面上一半的人口

And if you don't follow his teachings, you burn eternally.

而且如果你不遵循祂的教誨　你將會永遠受焚

Well, is that a psychopath?

嗯　這是一個變態嗎？

Man creates god in his own image,

人類以自己的形象創造了神

a jerk that gets angry, creates floods; that isn't god,

一位憤怒　製造洪水的混球　這不是神

that's a man made attempt at trying to evaluate how all this came about.

這是一種試著評價所有事物 如何產生的人為企圖

When you look up to the clouds, say "I don't know how it came..."

當你往上看著雲朵時說：「我不知道它怎麼來的...」

You don't make up any stories.

你就不是在捏造任何故事

It's amazing that people accept that,

吃驚的是人們竟然接受神造萬物

and somebody came to me and said,

然後有人跑來跟我說：

"Jacque, you want to try to make the world a better place."

「雅克　你想試著讓這個世界變成更好的地方」

I said, "It isn't me that wants to make the world a better place. The world is falling apart."

我說：「不是我想讓世界變成更好的地方　而是世界在崩潰中」

"Well, my kingdom is up there," the guy said.

然後這個人說：「嗯　那麼我的王國就在天上」

And I said, "You forgot the Lord's prayer,

我說：「你忘了主的禱望

it says «thy will be done on earth as it is in heaven»"

祂說：'你們應該使地上如天堂一樣'」

There's no business up there, no private ownership, no money,

但在天堂沒有商業　沒有私人擁有權　沒有金錢

and that's what Jesus said, I didn't say that.

但這是耶穌說的　不是我說的

I'm not religious, by the way.

順便說　我不信宗教

So, the religious guy doesn't even know what the hell he's reading.

也就是說　宗教人士甚至不知道自己到底在講啥鬼

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

The Jews were crossing the Red Sea and Moses lifted up his staff and the sea parted,

猶太人正要越過紅海時　摩西舉起他的手杖　然後海就分開了

so the jews can walk across.

因此猶太人就可穿越紅海

God could have put them on the other side without the sea parting.

但神本來可以把他們直接放到另一端　而不需分離大海

Angels have wings; if they flew around without wings,

天使有翅膀　如果他們沒有翅膀而到處飛

that would be really amazing.

那將真的非常驚人

Man is so stupid, he doesn't even know how to create a god.

人類是如此愚笨　甚至不知道如何創造出一位神

Their god is as dumb as they are. [ Laughter ]

他們的神跟他們一樣笨

All I want to say,

我想說的全部是

if you don't understand a resource based economy,

如果你不了解資源導向型經濟

it means that we would declare all the earth's resources

它表示我們將宣告所有地球上的資源

as the common heritage of all the world's people.

為全世界人類的共同遺產傳承

Where do you think we got this country from?

你想想看 我們從哪裡得到這個國家的？

We took it by force and violence,

我們利用武力和暴力奪得

and we took it from Mexico, Spain.

我們從墨西哥　西班牙奪得

And after we we stole all the land we needed, oh, which is also true of all the other countries,

之後我們竊取了所有必要的土地 喔 對全部其它國家來說也是如此做的

we put up the sign "Thou shalt not steal."

但我們卻放上牌示　「你不可偷竊」

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

I can't say very much for the future,

我對未來無法說太多

all I know is that I can't get on NBC, CBS, or any major station.

我所知道的是我不能出現在 NBC CBS或任何其它主流電視台上

I think I was on Larry King about four times,

我想我曾經上過賴瑞金(Larry King)的節目四次

and he said to me, "Jacque, what do you think of Christianity?"

然後他對我說：「雅克　你覺得基督教如何？」

I said, "It's a wonderful idea, when are they putting it into practice?"

我說：「是個美好的概念　但這些宗教人士何時才要去實現？」

[ Applause ]

[掌聲]

He said to me, "The trouble with you is you criticize everything."

他對我說：「你的問題是你批評所有東西」

I really didn't. One day I said,

但我真的沒有　有一天我說：

"Larry, if you have an airbag in front of you, if you get hit on the side,

「賴瑞　如果你面前有一個安全氣囊　而且一側受到撞擊

your head goes right through the glass.

你的頭會直接穿越玻璃

So the whole inside has to be an airbag."

所以裡面整個都要是氣囊才行」

So he said, "Why don't they do that?"

然後他說：「他們為何不這麼做呢？」

"I can't answer that."

「我不能回答你」

Why do you have war?

為何有戰爭？

We don't have war to bring democracy to another country.

我們沒有把民主帶給另一個國家的戰爭

We have war to take oil or take advantage of that country.

但我們有奪取和利用那個國家 石油的戰爭

We don't go to bring goodness to anybody.

我們不去把良善帶給任何人

That is not the like of the business world,

因為這不是商業世界的法則

to give you advantage without payment.

不能給你便宜而不付需錢

[ Applause ]

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The business world gives you the business.

商業世界給你的就是商業

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

Now of course, I'm gonna tell you this,

當然　現在我將告訴你

that the businessman will be happier in a resource based economy.

商人在一個資源導向型社會中將更快樂

This is very hard for people to understand.

這對人們來說非常難理解

The richest capitalist is usually a dummy.

最富有的資本家通常是蠢貨

I had one over at my house the other day, at "The Venus Project" and he said to me,

有一天　一位客人來到我在金星計畫的房屋內　對我說：

"If you are so smart, how come you're not rich?"

「如果你那麼聰明　你怎麼會不有錢？」

I said, "You're rich, how come you're not smart?"

我說：「你有錢　但你怎麼不聰明？」

[ Laughter ]

[笑聲]

Really, I got all these ideas from the human body.

真的　我是從人類身上得到所有這些想法

People think I got them from communism.

人們認為我從共產主義中得到

Communism uses money, communism has banks, it has armies, navies,

共產主義使用金錢　有銀行　陸軍　海軍

social stratification and government. We don't have any of those things.

社會階層和政府　而我們沒有這些東西

It has nothing in common with any established system.

金星計畫與任何既建的體系無太大關連

So, when we get to the question period, later on,

當我們之後進行問答時

you can question the hell out of me;

你可以盡力質疑我

but don't be polite, if you have any questions just come right at it.

不要客氣　如果你有任何問題　放馬過來

And if you ask a question, if I fail to answer it, say, "You didn't answer my question."

如果你問了問題　但我卻回答失敗　對我說：「你沒有回答到我的問題」

Don't be polite.

不要客氣

Thank you for your time.

謝謝你抽出時間

[ Applause ]

[掌聲]