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So as a kid, people used to come to my seminars.

Sincere.

And they'd say, "What about telepathy?" "Does that exist?"

So, I said, "Well, I have never seen examples of it."

They said, "Well, we have."

I said, "Well, call those people in,

and let's see if they can do that."

So,

we brought a guy over from India named Astoya.

He said he never used a telephone,

he could always communicate by telepathy.

I said, "Boy, if you could demonstrate that, I'm ready to give up science.

What the hell am I gonna bother for?"

Because, what people think is telepathy, is parallel values.

If you're growing up with somebody,

same type books you read, same school.

You can walk down the street, look at the situation, look at the guy and wink.

And you get the same reaction if your values are the same.

You know what I mean?

People think that's telepathy.

And then the women during World War 2,

they'd get up at night and say,

"Something happened to my son, I know it!". No doubt about it.

And the next day the war department would bring a

notification that their son was killed in action.

Doesn't that prove something?

So I wrote to the war department.

I said, "Do you really get letters like that?"

They said, "We got 15,000 letters a day,

that something happened to my Johnny, and nothing happened."

You only hear about those that coincidentally happened.

Do you understand what I'm saying?

I tend to lean that way.

Now, I also know that on top of the brain,

There's a thing called a meninges.

And it's like a membrane, that prevents inflammation.

Even if you think about certain things,

It doesn't go out of your head. The meninges cover that.

Not only that, but all the nerves have a myelin sheath.

You know what that is?

Insulation jacket over them, so the nerve can't spill over to another one,

And I say "Good morning, fuck you".

It's not like that. The way the brain is rigged,

swearing is in a certain area, this is in another area.

And when you think of mother, you think a wonderful gray haired woman.

He thinks of the woman who beat the shit out of him when he was a kid.

So we all have different associations. That why you can't have telepathy.

The way our brain stores information is different.

Like, in his head, communism means dictatorship, fascism.

In his head, it's dictatorship.

A liberal is a troublemaker in his head.

You understand?

So, our associative system is so different,

unless they were identical patterns

we can't influence other people.

So, years ago, at seminars.

I used to hold seminars.

People would come and say,

"What about the things beyond the physical?

You always talking about the physical world.

What about the spiritual world?

What about telepathy?"

And all that sort of thing.

So then I said. I didn't doubt that there was telepathy.

I said, "I've never seen it."

So, we brought, we chipped in a lot of money and a lot of friends of mine,

and we brought a guy over from India

who said he has the power of telepathy.

I've read about him, He was considered the best.

His name was Astoya.

We brought him over to this country and I said to him,

"If you can read my mind once."

He says, "I never use a telephone, I always understand telepathically."

I said, "If you can demonstrate that once,

I will shout it from the highest towers."

Why should I want to make a telephone?

Why should I be interested in science?

If people if people can do that.

So I said, "Can you demonstrate it?". He says, "Any time."

I said, "Do you want the sun up or down, full moon? What's the best conditions?"

He said, "No, any time."

I said, "You mean, If I think of something, you can tell me what I'm thinking of?"

He said, "Always."

I said, "What if it's scientific?"

He said, "Well, I won't describe it in scientific terms,

but I will describe the event."

I said, "That's good enough for me."

So what I pictured, was things that the average person doesn't picture.

Now, if it's an older person, if you say,

"There's been a death in the family.",

"Either three weeks or three months ago or a year ago."

Well, sure, there's always a death in the family when you're 70 years old.

When you talk to a young girl, you think in terms of,

'Why your sister gets all the dates and you don't'.

You fish around.

And there's always certain things that certain people,

there's no more than six different things that older people think of.

The house, paying rent, getting a job.

So he mentions a lot of things, and when you lean forward

that gives him a clue, as to whether he's on the right track or not.

You understand what I mean?

Diana, you're thinking of something related to some member of your family.

Yeah.

You fish around for probability.

So, what I pictured in my head,

was a little white mouse.

I picture it walking. And it goes out in the zoo

and eats an elephant, and doesn't get any larger.

because if this is really telepathy, this is outside of the norm.

If there's really telepathy... How can that little mouse

eat the elephant and not get any larger? He'd be amazed.

He came up with, "I see your deceased wife, standing behind you."

I never had a deceased wife.

But, maybe he missed this time.

So I then pictured something else, you know what i mean?

I pictured things like a wood saw, a carpenter's saw.

You know what that is?

The carpenter's saw had two legs and it walks into the forest.

And a tree looks at the saw and the tree cuts the saw in half.

Have to make sure, if there's telepathy,

really, you know, not coincidental.

Of course he couldn't get any of the things I thought about.

I said, "How come?",

I said, "Is it because I'm negative?

I want to know that there's really telepathy."

Well, he was so poor at what he did,

I could see that he was a fraud.

Jacque Fresco Talks Continues 26/09/09 Copenhagen, Denmark

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