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  • On this episode of China Uncensored,

  • oh there's nothing comic about this.

  • Hi, welcome to China Uncensored; I'm your host Chris Chappell.

  • You know, my mama always said

  • you should never talk about religion or politics over the dinner table.

  • Well, I would add to that one more highly sensitive topiccomic books.

  • More specifically, movie adaptations of comic books.

  • Nothing is more certain to generate a hellstorm on Internet forums

  • than minor changes made to beloved characters.

  • Or the occasional flaming train wreck.

  • But the most recent atrocity to befall comic bookdom

  • was the decision to change the Ancient One,

  • a Tibetan male sorcerer in Doctor Strange,

  • to a white woman in the upcoming movie.

  • The movie's creators have been lambasted

  • for what's being called another example of Hollywoodwhitewashing.”

  • But earlier this month, actress Tilda Swinton,

  • who has been cast as the Ancient One,

  • said there werevery great reasonsfor the changes.

  • The greatest reason of all, it turns out, may have been money.

  • On the Double Toasted podcast,

  • Doctor Strange movie writer C. Robert Cargill

  • explained why Tilda Swinton was cast as the Ancient One.

  • And the answer is

  • to make sure the Chinese Communist Party doesn't ban their movie.

  • The Thing with the Ancient Once is it is Marvel's Kobayashi Maru.

  • Hey, now, I don't believe in no-win scenarios!

  • But please, carry on.

  • He originates from Tibet,

  • so if you acknowledge that Tibet is a place and that he's Tibetan,

  • you...risk the Chinese government going,

  • 'Hey, you know one of the biggest film-watching countries in the world?

  • We're not going to show your movie because you decided to get political.'”

  • OK, I'm pretty sure the CCP is not arguing that Tibet doesn't exist.

  • In fact, according to state-run media,

  • Tibetans now live a free, prosperous and civilized life,

  • and with the loving care and efforts of the Central Government.”

  • Just look at how happy she is!

  • And besides, Cargill later hit Control-Z on that interview,

  • saying he wasn't representing Marvel when he said that.

  • But the problem is that Tibet is still a very politically sensitive issue.

  • And if you mention it in your very expensive movie,

  • you run the risk of being denied access

  • to one of the world's most lucrative movie markets.

  • Brad Pitt still has trouble getting his movies shown in China

  • because he was in 7 Years in Tibet almost 20 years ago.

  • The Communist Party only allows 34 foreign films a year

  • and they have to get approval from censors.

  • Specifically, the State Administration of Press, Publication, Radio, Film and Television,

  • or SAPPRFT.

  • I'm starting to see a pattern here.

  • So it makes sense Marvel would alter their movie

  • about a hero standing up to evil...

  • by appeasing a tyrannical government.

  • And if this is Marvel kowtowing to the Chinese government,

  • it wouldn't be the first time.

  • For example, do you remember this scene from Iron Man 3?

  • No, of course you don't.

  • It was only in the Chinese version.

  • See, Iron Man 3 was a co-production with a Chinese studio,

  • which means it didn't have to compete with other foreign films

  • for one of those coveted 34 film slots a year.

  • And you can make more money this way.

  • A foreign film studio can only get 25% of box office profits from China,

  • but in a co-production,

  • the foreign studio can keep almost 50%.

  • But that also means you have to shoot part of your film in China,

  • cast Chinese actors, have Chinese investors,

  • or show "positive Chinese images."

  • And that's why Marvel added several totally unnecessary scenes to the Chinese version

  • of Iron Man 3,

  • featuring famous Chinese actors,

  • and famous Chinese product placement.

  • And to appease Chinese censors,

  • Marvel allowed censors to vet the script for the entire film.

  • And it worked! Iron Man 3 got into China

  • and made an extra 95 million dollars there!

  • Other movies have done it, too.

  • In the film Looper,

  • they changed the idealistic future from Paris to Shanghai.

  • Because what could be more ideal

  • than another 60-plus years of Communist Party rule?

  • And in the 2012 Red Dawn remake,

  • the enemy that attacked America was China....

  • when they shot it.

  • But after being criticized by a Chinese newspaper,

  • they reportedly spent a million dollars to digitally change the baddie in post-production

  • to North Korea.

  • So for Doctor Strange,

  • Marvel had a real conundrum.

  • And they solved it by casting the spiritual teacher as a white woman.

  • Who's Celtic.

  • A group known for their love of Asian temples and martial arts.

  • I mean, they could have cast a famous Chinese actor...as...a...Tibetan.

  • Ok, that's also pretty racist

  • that whole all-Asians-look-the-same thing.

  • Hmm...ok.

  • Hey, I got it! If you're going to change it to a Celtic woman,

  • why not just change the character from Tibetan to Han Chinese.

  • Knows kung fu, qigong, mystic powers

  • hey the CCP would probably actually love that!

  • Oh, but then Dr. Strange is still the white hero goes to Asia for enlightenment

  • and then becomes the best trope.

  • Which is still a bad stereotype.

  • And I guess the mystic powers might be a little much,

  • since censors don't want to promote "superstition" either.

  • Actually, in that case...

  • Doctor Strange may have a hard time getting into China

  • even without Tibetan monks.

  • Wow, I guess this really is a no-win scenario.

  • Especially when you have filmmakers unabashedly kowtowing to China.

  • Of course, Marvel did sort of solve this issue in Iron Man 3.

  • The villain The Mandarin was played by Sir Ben Kingsley,

  • who is...not Mandarin.

  • Marvel walked the edge of the whitewashing/racist Fu Manchu villain issue

  • by writing the Mandarin as an unemployed actor

  • who was just a front for the real villain.

  • So I suppose there's a chance that Marvel could pull something off

  • that adequately explains why a Celtic mystic is living in the Himalayas.

  • So what do you think of Marvel's decision to change the Ancient One from a Tibetan dude

  • to a Celtic woman?

  • Leave your comments below. Once again I'm Chris Chappell, see you next time.

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