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  • I'm an ocean microbiologist at the University of Tennessee,

    我是田納西大學的海洋微生物學家,

  • and I want to tell you guys about some microbes

    我想和各位談的是一些微生物,

  • that are so strange and wonderful

    它們很奇特且美妙,

  • that they're challenging our assumptions about what life is like on Earth.

    它們甚至在挑戰我們對於 地球上生命的相關假設。

  • So I have a question.

    問大家一個問題。

  • Please raise your hand if you've ever thought it would be cool

    若你曾想過搭潛水艇到海底深處

  • to go to the bottom of the ocean in a submarine?

    是一件很酷的事,請舉手。

  • Yes.

    好。

  • Most of you, because the oceans are so cool.

    大部分人都舉手,因為海洋很酷。

  • Alright, now -- please raise your hand

    好,現在請再次舉手,

  • if the reason you raised your hand to go to the bottom of the ocean

    若你想要去海底的理由是因為

  • is because it would get you a little bit closer

    那樣你就能稍微更接近

  • to that exciting mud that's down there.

    海洋底部那令人興奮的泥巴。

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • Nobody.

    沒有人舉手。

  • I'm the only one in this room.

    我是在場唯一的一個。

  • Well, I think about this all the time.

    其實,我常常在想這件事。

  • I spend most of my waking hours

    我大部分醒著的時間,

  • trying to determine how deep we can go into the Earth

    都在研究,我們能 潛入地球多深的地方,

  • and still find something, anything, that's alive,

    還能發現生物,發現任何生命體。

  • because we still don't know the answer to this very basic question

    這是個關於地球上生命的基本問題,

  • about life on Earth.

    但我們仍然不知道答案。

  • So in the 1980s, a scientist named John Parkes, in the UK,

    在 1980 年代,有一個英國 科學家叫做約翰帕克斯,

  • was similarly obsessed,

    和我有類似的著迷,

  • and he came up with a crazy idea.

    他想出了一個瘋狂的點子。

  • He believed that there was a vast, deep, and living microbial biosphere

    他相信,有一個巨大、深層, 且活生生的微生物圈,

  • underneath all the world's oceans

    在全世界海洋的底下,

  • that extends hundreds of meters into the seafloor,

    深入海底數百公尺。

  • which is cool,

    這想法很酷,

  • but the only problem is that nobody believed him,

    唯一的問題是,沒有人相信他,

  • and the reason that nobody believed him

    而沒有人相信他的原因,

  • is that ocean sediments may be the most boring place on Earth.

    是因為海洋沉積可能是 地球上最無聊的地方了。

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • There's no sunlight, there's no oxygen,

    那裡沒有陽光、沒有氧氣,

  • and perhaps worst of all,

    最糟糕的可能是

  • there's no fresh food deliveries for literally millions of years.

    數百萬年來那裡沒有新鮮食物外送。

  • You don't have to have a PhD in biology

    你不用有生物學博士學位,

  • to know that that is a bad place to go looking for life.

    也能知道如果要尋找生命, 那地方不是個好選擇。

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • But in 2002, [Steven D'Hondt] had convinced enough people

    但在 2002 年, 約翰說服了足夠的人,

  • that he was on to something that he actually got an expedition

    相信他可能會有所發現,

  • on this drillship, called the JOIDES Resolution.

    讓他真的搭上「聯合果敢號」 這艘鑽探船展開考察。

  • And he ran it along with Bo Barkerrgensen of Denmark.

    與他同行的是丹麥的波巴克尤根森。

  • And so they were finally able to get

    終於,他們得以取得

  • good pristine deep subsurface samples

    地表下的深層優質原始樣本,

  • some really without contamination from surface microbes.

    沒有受到表面微生物的污染。

  • This drill ship is capable of drilling thousands of meters underneath the ocean,

    這艘鑽探船能夠鑽到 海底下數千公尺的深度,

  • and the mud comes up in sequential cores, one after the other --

    而泥土核依序從芯管被取出來,

  • long, long cores that look like this.

    像這樣非常長的芯管。

  • This is being carried by scientists such as myself who go on these ships,

    登船拿著芯管的科學家們,包括我,

  • and we process the cores on the ships and then we send them home

    我們會在船上處理泥土核, 然後把它們送回去

  • to our home laboratories for further study.

    家鄉的實驗室做進一步研究。

  • So when John and his colleagues

    所以當約翰和他的同事

  • got these first precious deep-sea pristine samples,

    拿到第一批珍貴的深海原始樣本,

  • they put them under the microscope,

    他們把樣本放到顯微鏡下,

  • and they saw images that looked pretty much like this,

    他們看到的影像就像是這樣,

  • which is actually taken from a more recent expedition

    這張圖其實是來自 更近期的一次考察,

  • by my PhD student, Joy Buongiorno.

    由我的博士生喬依邦吉歐諾進行的。

  • You can see the hazy stuff in the background.

    你們可以看到背景有模糊的東西。

  • That's mud. That's deep-sea ocean mud,

    那就是泥土,深海的泥土;

  • and the bright green dots stained with the green fluorescent dye

    而帶著綠色螢光的亮綠點

  • are real, living microbes.

    是真正的活微生物。

  • Now I've got to tell you something really tragic about microbes.

    我要告訴各位一件 關於微生物的悲劇。

  • They all look the same under a microscope,

    在顯微鏡下,它們看起來都一樣,

  • I mean, to a first approximation.

    至少大致上是一樣的。

  • You can take the most fascinating organisms in the world,

    你可以拿世界上最炫的有機體,

  • like a microbe that literally breathes uranium,

    比如能呼吸鈾的微生物,

  • and another one that makes rocket fuel,

    再找個製造火箭燃料的微生物,

  • mix them up with some ocean mud,

    把它們和一些海洋泥土混合,

  • put them underneath a microscope,

    放到顯微鏡下,

  • and they're just little dots.

    看到的就只是小點點。

  • It's really annoying.

    這真的很惱人。

  • So we can't use their looks to tell them apart.

    所以我們無法從 它們的外觀來區分它們。

  • We have to use DNA, like a fingerprint,

    我們得用 DNA,就像指紋,

  • to say who is who.

    來判斷誰是誰。

  • And I'll teach you guys how to do it right now.

    我現在就可以教各位怎麼做。

  • So I made up some data, and I'm going to show you some data that are not real.

    我捏造了一些資料, 等一下看的到資料不是真實的。

  • This is to illustrate what it would look like

    這是用來說明,如果一些物種

  • if a bunch of species were not related to each other at all.

    彼此之間完全沒有關係, 看起來會是什麼樣子。

  • So you can see each species

    所以,你們可以看到,每個物種

  • has a list of combinations of A, G, C and T,

    都能列出其 A、G、C、T 的組合,

  • which are the four sub-units of DNA,

    它們是 DNA 的四個子單位,

  • sort of randomly jumbled, and nothing looks like anything else,

    有點算是隨機混雜在一起, 看起來都不一樣,

  • and these species are totally unrelated to each other.

    這些物種彼此之間完全沒關聯。

  • But this is what real DNA looks like,

    但真正的 DNA 看起來是這樣的,

  • from a gene that these species happen to share.

    來自那些物種剛好共有的基因。

  • Everything lines up nearly perfectly.

    一切的排列幾乎完美。

  • The chances of getting so many of those vertical columns

    要有這麼多直行的機率,

  • where every species has a C or every species has a T,

    對有個 C 的每種物種, 或有個 T 的每種物種,

  • by random chance, are infinitesimal.

    在隨機的狀況下,是無限小的。

  • So we know that all those species had to have had a common ancestor.

    所以我們知道,所有這些 物種一定有個共同的祖先。

  • They're all relatives of each other.

    它們彼此都是親戚。

  • So now I'll tell you who they are.

    現在,我要告訴各位它們是誰。

  • The top two are us and chimpanzees,

    前兩種,是人類以及黑猩猩,

  • which y'all already knew were related, because, I mean, obviously.

    你們都知道兩者有關聯, 因為…應該很明顯吧。

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • But we're also related to things that we don't look like,

    但我們也和外表 不相似的物種有關聯。

  • like pine trees and Giardia, which is that gastrointestinal disease

    比如松樹和賈第鞭毛蟲, 它就是如果你去健行時若喝下

  • you can get if you don't filter your water while you're hiking.

    未過濾的水,就會 得到的那種胃腸病。

  • We're also related to bacteria like E. coli and Clostridium difficile,

    我們也和細菌有關,比如 大腸桿菌和艱難梭狀芽孢杆菌,

  • which is a horrible, opportunistic pathogen that kills lots of people.

    它是種會趁虛而入的 恐怖病原體,很致命。

  • But there's of course good microbes too, like Dehalococcoides ethenogenes,

    當然,也有好的微生物, 像是當脫氯菌,

  • which cleans up our industrial waste for us.

    它能幫我們清除工業廢物。

  • So if I take these DNA sequences,

    如果我拿這些 DNA 序列,

  • and then I use them, the similarities and differences between them,

    然後使用它們,用它們 之間的相似和差異,

  • to make a family tree for all of us

    來為大家做個家譜樹狀圖,

  • so you can see who is closely related,

    可以清楚看見相近的關聯性,

  • then this is what it looks like.

    結果就會像這樣子。

  • So you can see clearly, at a glance,

    你第一眼就可以清楚看到,

  • that things like us and Giardia and bunnies and pine trees

    我們、賈第鞭毛蟲、 兔子,以及松樹等等,

  • are all, like, siblings,

    都像是手足,

  • and then the bacteria are like our ancient cousins.

    而細菌則是我們古老的表親。

  • But we're kin to every living thing on Earth.

    但我們和地球上的 所有生物都是親戚。

  • So in my job, on a daily basis,

    所以,我每天的工作,

  • I get to produce scientific evidence against existential loneliness.

    就是要製造出科學證據 來駁斥存在性的孤獨。

  • So when we got these first DNA sequences,

    所以當我們拿到第一批 DNA 序列,

  • from the first cruise, of pristine samples from the deep subsurface,

    來自第一次航行時從地表下 很深的地方取得的原始樣本,

  • we wanted to know where they were.

    我們想要知道它們之前在哪裡。

  • So the first thing that we discovered is that they were not aliens,

    所以,我們最先的發現的是: 它們不是外星人,

  • because we could get their DNA to line up with everything else on Earth.

    因為我們能將它們的 DNA 和地球上所有其他物種排列對齊。

  • But now check out where they go on our tree of life.

    但,現在看看它們在 我們的生命之樹上的走向。

  • The first thing you'll notice is that there's a lot of them.

    你最先會注意到的, 是它們的數量很多。

  • It wasn't just one little species

    並不只有一個小物種

  • that managed to live in this horrible place.

    能夠在這個糟透的地方生存。

  • It's kind of a lot of things.

    其實有很多東西。

  • And the second thing that you'll notice,

    你會注意到的第二件事,

  • hopefully, is that they're not like anything we've ever seen before.

    我希望你們注意到了,就是它們 和我們以前見過的物種都不一樣。

  • They are as different from each other

    它們彼此之間的差異程度,

  • as they are from anything that we've known before

    就如同它們和我們過去 所知之所有物種的差異程度,

  • as we are from pine trees.

    如同我們和松樹的差異。

  • So John Parkes was completely correct.

    所以,約翰帕克斯完全正確。

  • He, and we, had discovered a completely new and highly diverse

    他和我們發現地球上有個全新

  • microbial ecosystem on Earth

    極多樣化的微生物生態系統,

  • that no one even knew existed before the 1980s.

    在 1980 年代之前全然不為人知。

  • So now we were on a roll.

    我們現在好運連連。

  • The next step was to grow these exotic species in a petri dish

    下一步是要在培養皿中 繁殖這些奇特的物種,

  • so that we could do real experiments on them

    讓我們用來做真正的實驗,

  • like microbiologists are supposed to do.

    微生物學家應該做的那些實驗。

  • But no matter what we fed them,

    但,不論我們餵它們什麼,

  • they refused to grow.

    它們都不肯繁殖。

  • Even now, 15 years and many expeditions later,

    即使現在,十五年後, 且已經經過許多次考察,

  • no human has ever gotten a single one of these exotic deep subsurface microbes

    仍然沒有人能夠讓任何一種 從海底表下深處取得的微生物

  • to grow in a petri dish.

    在培養皿中成長。

  • And it's not for lack of trying.

    且那並非因為缺乏嘗試。

  • That may sound disappointing,

    這可能聽起來讓人失望,

  • but I actually find it exhilarating,

    但我卻覺得很振奮,

  • because it means there are so many tantalizing unknowns to work on.

    因為那表示有好多誘人的 未知事物等待研究。

  • Like, my colleagues and I got what we thought was a really great idea.

    比如,我和我同事 想出了一個很好的點子。

  • We were going to read their genes like a recipe book,

    我們要把它們的基因 當作烹飪書來讀,

  • find out what it was they wanted to eat and put it in their petri dishes,

    找出它們想要吃什麼, 把那東西放到培養皿中,

  • and then they would grow and be happy.

    接著它們就會快樂繁殖。

  • But when we looked at their genes,

    但我們去看它們的基因時,

  • it turns out that what they wanted to eat was the food we were already feeding them.

    發現它們想要吃的食物就是 我們之前餵食過的食物。

  • So that was a total wash.

    完全是白工一場。

  • There was something else that they wanted in their petri dishes

    在培養皿中,它們 還想要其他的東西,

  • that we were just not giving them.

    是我們還沒給它們的。

  • So by combining measurements from many different places

    所以,我們把來自世界上 不同地方的測量值結合起來,

  • around the world,

    我在南加州大學的同事,

  • my colleagues at the University of Southern California,

    道格拉洛和楊艾曼,

  • Doug LaRowe and Jan Amend,

    可以計算出,每一個深海微生物細胞

  • were able to calculate that each one of these deep-sea microbial cells

    只需要 1 zepto 瓦的能量,

  • requires only one zeptowatt of power,

    不用拿手機查了,1 zepto 就是10 的負 21 次方,

  • and before you get your phones out, a zepto is 10 to the minus 21,

    換作我是你們,我也會想查。

  • because I know I would want to look that up.

    另一方面,

  • Humans, on the other hand,

    人類需要 100 瓦的能量。

  • require about 100 watts of power.

    基本上,100 瓦的 能量就是拿個鳳梨,

  • So 100 watts is basically if you take a pineapple

    每天把它從腰部的高度 丟下去 881,632 次。

  • and drop it from about waist height to the ground 881,632 times a day.

    如果你那樣做,並和渦輪做連結,

  • If you did that and then linked it up to a turbine,

    就會創造出足夠的 能量讓我能夠活一天。

  • that would create enough power to make me happen for a day.

    如果用類似的方式 說明 1 zepto 瓦,

  • A zeptowatt, if you put it in similar terms,

    就是拿一粒鹽巴,

  • is if you take just one grain of salt

    接著,想像非常非常小的球狀體,

  • and then you imagine a tiny, tiny, little ball

    質量只有一粒鹽巴的千分之一,

  • that is one thousandth of the mass of that one grain of salt

    然後把它從一奈米的高度丟下,

  • and then you drop it one nanometer,

    一奈米比可見光波長還要小一百倍,

  • which is a hundred times smaller than the wavelength of visible light,

    一天丟一次。

  • once per day.

    只要這樣,就能讓微生物活著。

  • That's all it takes to make these microbes live.

    我們從來沒有想過這麼少的 能量也能夠維持生命,

  • That's less energy than we ever thought would be capable of supporting life,

    但,不知以什麼方式, 很神奇,也很美妙,

  • but somehow, amazingly, beautifully,

    它就是足以維生。

  • it's enough.

    所以,如果這些深海微生物

  • So if these deep-subsurface microbes

    和能量之間的關係和 我們先前所想的很不一樣,

  • have a very different relationship with energy than we previously thought,

    那就表示,它們一定也會

  • then it follows that they'll have to have

    和時間有不一樣的關係,

  • a different relationship with time as well,

    因為當你生活中的 能量梯度那麼小的時候,

  • because when you live on such tiny energy gradients,

    不可能會快速成長。

  • rapid growth is impossible.

    如果這些東西想要在我們的 喉嚨中殖民,讓我們生病,

  • If these things wanted to colonize our throats and make us sick,

    它們在開始做細胞分裂之前,

  • they would get muscled out by fast-growing streptococcus

    就會被快速成長的鏈球菌趕出去了。

  • before they could even initiate cell division.

    那就是為何我們從未 在喉嚨中找到它們。

  • So that's why we never find them in our throats.

    也許,雖然表面下的 深層地區很無聊,

  • Perhaps the fact that the deep subsurface is so boring

    對這些微生物而言卻是一項資產。

  • is actually an asset to these microbes.

    它們永遠不會被暴風雨沖走。

  • They never get washed out by a storm.

    不會被過分茂密的雜草給抑制。

  • They never get overgrown by weeds.

    它們只需要做一件事:存在。

  • All they have to do is exist.

    也許,我們的培養皿中缺少的東西,

  • Maybe that thing that we were missing in our petri dishes

    根本不是食物。

  • was not food at all.

    也許不是化學物質。

  • Maybe it wasn't a chemical.

    也許它們真正想要的東西,

  • Maybe the thing that they really want,

    它們想要的營養物,是時間。

  • the nutrient that they want, is time.

    但,時間是我永遠不可能 給予它們的東西。

  • But time is the one thing that I'll never be able to give them.

    即使我把我的細胞培養 傳給我的博士生,

  • So even if I have a cell culture that I pass to my PhD students,

    他們再傳給他們的 博士生,以此類推,

  • who pass it to their PhD students, and so on,

    我們得要持續傳數千年,

  • we'd have to do that for thousands of years

    才有可能精確模仿 地面下深處的條件,

  • in order to mimic the exact conditions of the deep subsurface,

    而不繁殖任何污染物。

  • all without growing any contaminants.

    這是不可能的。

  • It's just not possible.

    但,也許,我們已經以某種方式 在培養皿中繁殖它們了。

  • But maybe in a way we already have grown them in our petri dishes.

    也許它們看著我們 提供的各種食物,並說:

  • Maybe they looked at all that food we offered them and said,

    「謝謝,我能夠加速成長,

  • "Thanks, I'm going to speed up so much

    快到在下世紀就能做出一個新細胞。

  • that I'm going to make a new cell next century.

    呃。

  • Ugh.

    (笑聲)

  • (Laughter)

    所以,為什麼其他的 生物都進行那麼快?

  • So why is it that the rest of biology moves so fast?

    為什麼細胞在一天後就會死亡,

  • Why does a cell die after a day

    一個人僅在一百年後就會死亡?

  • and a human dies after only a hundred years?

    這些時限是非常短的,

  • These seem like really arbitrarily short limits

    相對於宇宙的所有時間而言。

  • when you think about the total amount of time in the universe.

    但它們並非隨意的時限。

  • But these are not arbitrary limits.

    它們受到一樣很單純的東西所支配,

  • They're dictated by one simple thing,

    那就是太陽。

  • and that thing is the Sun.

    一旦生命搞懂了要 如何透過光合作用利用

  • Once life figured out how to harness the energy of the Sun

    太陽的能量,

  • through photosynthesis,

    我們都得要加速, 開始過日夜循環的日子。

  • we all had to speed up and get on day and night cycles.

    就這方面來說,太陽 給了我們加速的理由,

  • In that way, the Sun gave us both a reason to be fast

    以及加速需要的燃料。

  • and the fuel to do it.

    你可以把地球上大部分的 生命視為是循環系統,

  • You can view most of life on Earth like a circulatory system,

    而太陽就是在跳動的心臟。

  • and the Sun is our beating heart.

    但在地表下的深處,這個循環系統

  • But the deep subsurface is like a circulatory system

    完全和太陽沒有連結。

  • that's completely disconnected from the Sun.

    取而代之,驅動它的 是又長又慢的地理節奏。

  • It's instead being driven by long, slow geological rhythms.

    目前,在理論上,單一細胞的 壽命長度是沒有極限的。

  • There's currently no theoretical limit on the lifespan of one single cell.

    只要還有一絲絲的能量可以利用,

  • As long as there is at least a tiny energy gradient to exploit,

    在理論上,單一細胞就能

  • theoretically, a single cell could live

    再活數億年甚至更久,

  • for hundreds of thousands of years or more,

    只要隨著時間把壞掉的 部分換掉即可。

  • simply by replacing broken parts over time.

    要讓那樣子生活的微生物, 在我們的培養皿中成長,

  • To ask a microbe that lives like that to grow in our petri dishes

    就等於是在要求它們適應我們

  • is to ask them to adapt to our frenetic, Sun-centric, fast way of living,

    這種以太陽為中心 且快速瘋狂的生活方式,

  • and maybe they've got better things to do than that.

    也許它們有別的更想做的事。

  • (Laughter)

    (笑聲)

  • Imagine if we could figure out how they managed to do this.

    想像一下,如果我們能夠 研究出它們如何辦到的。

  • What if it involves some cool, ultra-stable compounds

    如果它們是利用某種 超穩定複合物,

  • that we could use to increase the shelf life

    而若我們能將之用於 生物醫學或工業產業

  • in biomedical or industrial applications?

    延長保存期限,這樣會如何呢?

  • Or maybe if we figure out the mechanism that they use

    或者,假若我們能找出 它們使用的超慢速成長機制,

  • to grow so extraordinarily slowly,

    我們就能仿照這機制 來減慢癌細胞的分裂速度。

  • we could mimic it in cancer cells and slow runaway cell division.

    我不知道。

  • I don't know.

    老實說,這些都是猜測,

  • I mean, honestly, that is all speculation,

    但我知道有一件事是肯定的,

  • but the only thing I know for certain

    有 10 的 29 次方個 活生生的微生物細胞

  • is that there are a hundred billion billion billlion

    在全世界的海洋底下。

  • living microbial cells

    那是地球上人類 生物質總量的兩百倍。

  • underlying all the world's oceans.

    且那些微生物與時間及能量的關係,

  • That's 200 times more than the total biomass of humans on this planet.

    跟我們有本質上的不同。

  • And those microbes have a fundamentally different relationship

    對它們而言是一天的時間,

  • with time and energy than we do.

    對我們而言可能就是一千年。

  • What seems like a day to them

    它們不在乎太陽,

  • might be a thousand years to us.

    它們也不在乎要快速成長,

  • They don't care about the Sun,

    很可能它們也不在乎我的培養皿。

  • and they don't care about growing fast,

    (笑聲)

  • and they probably don't give a damn about my petri dishes ...

    但,如果我們能繼續尋找 有創意的方式來研究它們,

  • (Laughter)

    也許最終我們會能了解 在地球上所有生命的樣貌。

  • but if we can continue to find creative ways to study them,

    謝謝。

  • then maybe we'll finally figure out what life, all of life, is like on Earth.

    (掌聲)

  • Thank you.

  • (Applause)

I'm an ocean microbiologist at the University of Tennessee,

我是田納西大學的海洋微生物學家,

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