the programme where we explore an interesting

topic and bring you six items of useful vocabulary.

I'm Catherine.

Rob: And I'm Rob.

Catherine: I have a question for you, Rob:

how would you feel about having therapy

from a robot?

Rob: I'm not too sure about that -

you'll need to tell me more! But first things first,

the word therapy refers to a kind of treatment that helps

someone feel better - including

treatment for mental health issues.

Someone who delivers therapy is called a therapist.

Catherine: We'll find out more about this robot therapist

in just a moment, but first, Rob,

I've got a question for you about the scale

of mental health issues globally.

So roughly how many people do you think experience

mental health issues at some point during

their lifetime? Is it... a) One in ten people,

b) One in four or c) One in three

Rob: I'll go for one in four,

but I know whichever answer is right -

it's a big issue.

How might a robot therapist help?

Catherine: We're not talking about a robot

in the Star Wars sense - so there's no flashing

lights and mechanical arms, Rob! It's actually an app

in your smartphone that talks to you

- and it's called Woebot.

Rob: So - it has a sense of humour.

Woe means 'sadness'; so this is a 'woe' bot,

not a robot.

Catherine: And it was developed by psychologist

Dr Alison Darcy from Stanford University

in the US. Here she is talking to the BBC radio

programme All in the Mind.

Dr Alison Darcy: Well, after you start an

initial conversation with the Woebot,

and he'll take you through sort of what he can do

and what he can't do, he'll just essentially

check in with you every day and just give you

a sort of figurative tap on the shoulder

and say: "Hey Claudia, how are you doing?

What's going on in your day? How do you feel?"

So if you say, like "I'm really, really stressed out",

Woebot might offer to help

talk you through something.

Catherine: Woebot checks in with you every day

and asks how you are.

Rob: So here, to check in with someone

doesn't mean to register at a hotel with that person!

It's an informal way of saying you talk to someone

in order to report or find out information.

Catherine: And this usage is more common in the US.

So for example: "I can't meet you today,

Rob, but I'll check in with you tomorrow

to see how the project is getting on."

Rob: So, this robot checks in with you every day.

It tracks your mood and talks to you

about your emotions, using a technique

called cognitive behavioural therapy.

Catherine: Cognitive behavioural therapy

is a common therapeutic technique

that helps people deal with problems

by changing the way they think.

Rob: That all sounds great,

but does Woebot actually work?

Catherine: They've done trials which show that

it can be more effective than simply reading

information about mental health.

But they haven't compared Woebot to a real

therapist due to ethical concerns.

Rob: Yes, it could be unethical to deny

a real patient access to a human therapist

for the sake of a trial.

Ethical basically means morally right.

Catherine: And another concern is privacy.

People who use apps like this are not protected

by strong privacy laws.

Rob: Despite these fears, digital therapy

is booming - and Woebot is just one of an

an increasing number of electronic services.

One reason for this could be using an app carries less

stigma than maybe seeing a human therapist.

Catherine: And stigma refers to the negative

associations that people have about something,

especially when these associations are not fair.

Even though mental health is now being

talked about more openly than before,

some people do still see mental health issues

and therapy negatively.

Rob: Whatever you think of robot therapy,

Dr Darcy believes that in the modern world

people need to self-reflect more -

which means thinking deeply about yourself,

in order to understand the reasons behind your feelings.

Dr Alison Darcy: The world that we live in right now

is very noisy. Particularly digitally.

You know, since we've had these little computers

in our pockets with us everywhere we go,

there aren't that many opportunities for real silence

or self-reflection. You know, even a commute

on the tube might have been a moment to

just take a second to yourself, but now that void

can be filled always with super engaging content

by looking at your phone.

Catherine: Darcy believes that we don't have

much time for self-reflection

because there are so many distractions in life -

especially smartphones!

Rob: After discussing all this - would you actually try

a therapy app like this?

Catherine: Yes I would, actually -

I think it might be quite helpful.

Rob: And how about the question you asked me

at the beginning of the programme: how

many people experience mental health issues?

Catherine: The answer was: one in four,

according the World Health Organisation

and the World Federation for Mental Health.

But the WHO say that as many as two-thirds

of people never seek help from a health professional -

with stigma being one of the main reasons.

Rob: And just there we had stigma again,

let's now run through the other words we learned today.

Catherine: So we had woe meaning sadness.

I'm full of woe. Woe is me!

Rob: Maybe you need some therapy -

that's the process of receiving treatment for a particular

health issue, especially mental health illness.

Catherine: And we had - to check in with someone.

After we finish this programme, I need to check in with

the boss about my new project.

Rob: We also had self-reflection -

that's the process of thinking deeply about yourself.

Catherine: And finally we had ethical.

If you describe something as ethical,

you mean it's morally right.

Rob: So woe, stigma, therapy, check in with,

self-reflection and ethical.

That's it for this edition of 6 Minute English.

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Catherine: Bye for now.

Rob: Bye bye!