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  • Juha Jarvinen doesn't just play these shaman drums, he makes them.

  • How much would you charge for this one, say, then?

  • Not in Finland, but, internationally?

  • *both laugh*

  • That's not the only business he's got going.

  • There's filmmaking, and an artist version of Air B&B. All this while helping bring up six

  • kids. Sort of.

  • All three kids sleep in this, these bunks?

  • They're sleeping on the trampoline?!

  • Are you a bit anarchist?

  • Are you an anarchist dad?

  • Had you swung by last year, things wouldn't have been half

  • so jolly.

  • Back then jobless Juha was on dole money which comes with such

  • tight restrictions he wasn't able to pursue any of his business ideas.

  • But since January he's been getting six hundred and sixty dollars a month,

  • no strings attached.

  • "What has a basic income made possible for you then?"

  • You get paid about $600 a month

  • What does that enable you to do? Is that a lot of money for you?

  • His apparently idealic lifestyle forms part

  • of one of the biggest economic experiments of our time.

  • Universal basic income has rocketed in popularity since the banking crash.

  • Bernie Sanders backs it, so does tech Titan Elon Musk. Now Finland is hosting the first big

  • trial in Europe. This isn't the purest form of UBI, which would be handed out to

  • everyone, even billionaires.

  • Instead it focuses only on the unemployed.

  • Still, there's a big jump between pilot and policy, and ministers know it.

  • What's the politics of actually giving people who are unemployed money just to sit at home?

  • Just as UBI freed Juha from being trapped on welfare

  • it could do the same for many others around the world.

  • The link between work and

  • wages is at the heart of capitalism, breaking it is opposed by some very

  • powerful groups.

  • In Finland that includes the finance ministry and the country's

  • largest trade union.

  • You are saying it's unaffordable, how unaffordable is it? What kind of impact

  • would it have on the economy?

  • What happens if we just give everyone money for nothing?

  • Where's all the tax going to come from to pay for it?

Juha Jarvinen doesn't just play these shaman drums, he makes them.

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