CONCEPT OF OR THEORY OF

SOCIALISM.

BRING IN CIVIC FORUM PAC CHAIR

FORD O'CONNELL, FORMER OBAMA

CAMPAIGN REGIONAL DIRECTOR ROBIN

BIRO.

FORD LOOKS ANGRY ALREADY.

I WAS GOING TO START WITH ROBIN.

NO.

HE IS SMILING.

YOU HEARD WHAT HE SAID.

CAPITALISM OR INCOME DOESN'T

START AT ZERO.

GO AHEAD.

>> THERE ARE TWO TYPES OF

ECONOMIES, MARKET DRIVEN, AKA,

CAPITALISM, AND GOVERNMENT

DIRECTED AKA, SOCIALISM.

WHAT HE IS PROPOSING A PRONG OF

SOCIALISM BECAUSE PROVIDING

DISINCENTIVE TO WORK.

THIS UNIVERSAL BASIC INCOME

COMES FROM HIS BELIEF AUTOMATION

WILL DISPLACE AMERICAN WORKERS F

HE WAS TRULY WORRIED ABOUT THE

DISEMPLOYMENT OF AMERICAN

WORKERS WHAT HE WOULD BE TALKING

ABOUT PROVIDING CREDIT TO SEND

PEOPLE BACK TO SCHOOL TO RETRAIN

THEM.

FOR HIM TO SAY CAPITALISM IS NOT

WORKING THAT IS NONSENSE.

IN 191940% OF THE AMERICANS

WORKED IN AGRICULTURE.

TODAY 1 1/2%.

WE'RE AT FULL EMPLOYMENT.

JOBS ARE CHANGING, JOBS WILL BE

THERE, ONLY QUESTION WHERE THEY

ARE IN THE ECONOMY.

CONNELL: YOU BRING UP A GOOD

POINT, WHAT ARE THE SKILLS FOR

THE JOB, DEBATE AND DISCUSSION

WE SHOULD BE HAVING.

WHOLE IDEA AFTER PROGRAM THAT

GIVES PEOPLE MONEY.

GIVE THEM $1000, SAY IT IS NOT

SOCIALISM.

NOW I GUESS, WE DO HAVE PROGRAMS

LIKE THAT, THAT HELP PEOPLE HER,

THAT FOR FOR PEOPLE.

WE HAVE FOOD STAMPS.

IF YOU GET RID OF THE PROGRAMS,

REPLACE IT WITH THIS, IS IT MUCH

DIFFERENT THAN WE HAVE NOW?

WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> YOU BRING UP A GREAT POINT,

CONNELL THIS, WORKED IN SOME

COUNTRIES, EUROPEAN COUNTRIES.

WE HAVE THIS RIGHT NOW IN

ALASKA, BUT THAT IS PAID FOR BY

THE OIL RESERVES ON FEDERAL

PROPERTIES.

IF YOU ASK THE QUESTION, IS IT

SOCIALISM, WHO IS PAYING FOR

THIS?

IF WE DIVIDE THIS UP AMONG

EVERYONE IN THE UNITED STATES WE

WOULD BE PAYING IT OUT OF OUR

TAXES.

CONNELL: WE COULD PROBABLY

DEBATE ALL THIS STUFF.

THERE IS WHAT THE WHOLE THING

WOULD COST BUT I WONDER IF YOUR

PARTY, THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY

WANTS TO DO THAT?

IS THIS WHAT THEY WANT?

THEY WANT WHOLE DEBATE HOW MUCH

OF A SOCIALIST ARE YOU?

ARE YOU REALLY A SOCIALIST?

DO THEY REALLY WANT THAT?

>> ANDREW YANG, I NEVER HEARD

THAT NAME BEFORE HONESTY BUT

DOING HIMSELF A SERVICE HERE

SETTING APART FROM THE CROWD BY

TALKING ABOUT THIS.

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT IT NOW,

GETTING HIS MOTIVE ACROSS.

BUT NO, I DON'T THINK THAT

MAJORITY OF DEMOCRATS WANT THIS

RIGHT NOW.

IT IS SOMETHING WE'RE JUST NOW

DISCUSSING, BUT LOOK, THIS

DIDN'T PASS IN SWITZERLAND BY

ALMOST 77%.

DO YOU HONESTLY THINK IT STANDS

A FIGHTING CHANCE HERE IN THE

UNITED STATES?

CONNELL: PROBABLY NOT.

I BET THE PRESIDENT, FORD LOVES

THIS IDEA THIS KEEPS COMING UP.

THIS IDEA WE'RE FOR SOCIALISM,

ARE WE REALLY?

IS THIS SOCIALISM?

THAT IS PLAYING RIGHT INTO HIS

HANDS IN MANY WAYS, DON'T YOU

THINK?

>> THE PRESIDENT LOVES IDEA OF

CAPITALISM VERSUS SOCIALISM

DEBATE.

LET'S UNDERSTAND WHY.

THE REASON IS VERY SIMPLE.

THE BRAND OF SOCIALISM AS ROBIN

POINTS OUT IS EXTREMELY TOXIC.

IN LATEST FOX POLL, ONLY 25%

FIND IT FAVORABLE.

THAT SAID WHAT THE DEMOCRATS ARE

PUSHING INDIVIDUAL SOCIALIST

POLICIES, WHETHER FREE

GOVERNMENT-RUN HEALTH CARE OR

FREE COLLEGES, REGULATING BANKS

BASICALLY INTO OBSECURITY.

THEY ARE TRYING TO DUCK, DODGE,

TACKLE THAT TERM OF SOCIALISM,

YET THAT IS EXACTLY THE POLICIES

THEY ARE PUSHING.

REPUBLICANS DOESN'T UNDERSTAND

THAT IF THEY DON'T FIND A BETTER

WAY TO MESSAGE THIS, THIS COULD

CREEP UP ON THEM REALLY QUICKLY.

CONNELL: SOME OF THE INDIVIDUAL

PROGRAMS ARE QUITE POPULAR.