to free solo El Cap by myself without a rope.

Alex Honnold, the young climber who made it to the top

of El Capitan, no harness, no ropes attached.

He scales walls higher than the Empire State Building,

and he does it without any ropes or protection.

I assume you love climbing, right?

- I mean, I assume you love it. - Yeah, yeah.

I do love climbing.

I think Yosemite's the most beautiful place on Earth.

It's home to so many of the most iconic walls in the world.

There's always a bigger challenge, there's always something

to be inspired by in Yosemite.

Before I started making the film about free soloing El Cap,

I'd been dreaming about free soloing El Cap for many years

and had never even really tried or put any effort into

it because there was no accountability.

I never told anybody that I wanted to,

I never put any effort into it,

basically it just kept never happening and I reached

a point where I was like, someday I'm gonna be

a middle aged man and look back and be like,

how come I never even tried, you know?

Like, why did I always want to do this thing but never

did it and never even put any effort into it?

And so, a piece of advice for anybody trying something

that's very hard for them or for something

that seems like sort of an impossible goal,

is to just steadily broaden your comfort zone over time.

Basically, consistently do things that are slightly harder

for you in the right direction,

not necessarily specifically towards that goal,

but sort of keep broadening yourself until eventually

it seems possible.

I think actually climbing affords a lot of opportunities

for self-reflection and measuring self growth because

the rock never changes, and so each season

you can come back and climb the same routes

and you see your own personal growth.

I mean, climbing on El Cap is a perfect example,

because I climbed it for the first time, I think,

in 2006 and it took us 22 hours, I think,

And then this last summer I climbed that same route

in less than two hours.

So it's nice to see that level of growth over a decade.

The thing about free soloing, which is climbing without

a rope, is that there's such a psychological component

to it. It's not just the physical difficulty,

It's also, Does it feel slippery?

Does it seem scary?

Like, is there an insecure move?

So, I'd like to differentiate risk and consequence.

I mean, the consequences are definitely death.

If you fall off the wall, you're definitely gonna die.

But the risk is sort of the likelihood

of actually falling off, and the idea is that

with enough preparation, with enough training,

you can mitigate the risk.

I mean, I think that the idea was that with two years

of preparation, the risk for me was approaching zero,

even though the consequences were still super high,

at least the risk was very low.

So, to free solo El Cap, I put maybe two years

of direct effort into it, but then beyond that,

I put another 10 years of sort

of indirect effort, free soloing routes

that are very similar, but not exactly the same.

And then, once it seemed like El Cap was maybe possible,

then I put two years of effort into it.

But then the final six months I knew that it was possible,

I knew that I could do it and I wanted to do it.

So then I was single-mindedly focused

on free soloing El Cap.

And so for those six months, I was training way too much,

like working out a lot, eating really well, really focused.

And then there's the whole preparation on the route itself,

because there's physically and mentally preparing for it,

but then there's also practicing the route itself,

which means just spending a lot of time on the wall.

And so for me, one of the challenges was sort of to hit

them both in the sweet spot, you know to do the solo

while I still felt strong, but also felt prepared enough.

I guess one of the takeaways from free soloing El Cap

is that if you want to do something very difficult,

you just have to put in the time and the effort,

you just have to put in the work.

I think for me, it was easier because I love climbing

so much and I love the process so much

and the goal was so inspiring.

Basically, it hit all the sweet spots.

Where El Cap is so impressive to me and so inspiring,

and I love the actual day-to-day effort involved,

So it was easy for me to put in that level

of effort because I was inspired for it.

So I mean, maybe the takeaway is that if you want

to do really difficult things, make sure they're things

that you actually want to do.

You know, like be inspired by the work that you're doing

and then put in the time.