Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles SEVERAL STATES ARE TAKING LEGAL ACTION AGAINST THE TRUMP MINISTRATION PUBLIC CHARGE POLICY THAT WOULD DENY GREEN CARDS TO APPLICANTS THAT RECEIVE LONG-TERM PUBLIC ASSISTANCE. LET'S BRING IN FORMER OVERSIGHT COUNCIL AT THE DHS AND THE SENIOR SENIOR ADVISOR AT THE HERITAGE FOUNDATION MIKE HOWELL. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR JOINING US. JUST TO BEGIN, HOW IMPACTFUL DO YOU THINK THE NEW POLICY WILL BE AS IT'S ROLLED OUT? >> I THINK THIS IS THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL ACTION OF THIS POLICY. AND PERHAPS THE MOST CONSEQUENTIAL ACTION IN MANY DECADES FULL IN FOREST AND CARRIED OUT IT HAS MASSIVE IMPLICATIONS FOR THE INCOMING LEGAL POPULATION AND THOSE ALREADY IN THE COUNTRY. >> WE TALKED TO BEING FULLY ENFORCED WHAT YOU THINK THE LIKELIHOOD IS OF THAT. IT ALL DEPENDS ON THE AMOUNT OF ICE TO ACTUALLY REMOVE FOLKS. THEY HAVE MADE IT BIG POLICY OF THOSE TO LIMIT THE CAPACITY OF ICE TO THE EXTENT OF THOSE NUMBERS THEY ARE ABLE TO GET HIGHER. THERE IS MORE SPACE FOR FOLKS TO BE REMOVED. >> AGAINST THIS IN GENERAL. BROADLY FROM FOLKS THAT ARE RUNNING TO THE WHITE HOUSE. ADVOCACY ORGANIZATIONS AS WELL AS LAWSUITS. THERE IS SOME MULTITUDE OF STATES MORE THAN A DOZEN FILE INCLUDING ROBERT SANTOS. THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION MESSAGE IS CLEAR IF YOU ARE WEALTHY YOU ARE BLOCK YOUR REPORT YOU ARE NOT. IT FORCES THEM TO SACRIFICE AS THEIR DREAM FOR FOOD OR ROOF OVER THEIR CHILDREN'S HEAD. I WOULD ENCOURAGE YOU TO THE ACTUAL RULE. LIKE A FULL UNDERSTANDING OF WHAT'S HAPPENING. THERE IS STILL AN ALLOWANCE FOR ASYLUM. AND HUMANITARIAN CASES AND ASKING FOR IMMIGRANTS TO BE WEALTHY. TO NOT BE RELIANT ON THE LIMITED SOCIAL SERVICES OF THIS COMPANY ARE RESERVED FOR AMERICANS. SPEAK TO WHY YOU THINK THE ROLL OUT NOW. IT HAS ROLLED OUT A NUMBER OF POLICIES. SOME HAVE BEEN CHALLENGED BY THE COURTS. WHY NOW? >> IS A GREAT QUESTION. THIS IS THE DAY ONE PRIORITY AT DHS IN THE DIRECTION OF THE WANTED TO DO IT RIGHT. THEY PUT IT THROUGH A VERY ROBUST PROCESS. IT TOOK WELL OVER TWO YEARS TO GET WHERE WE ARE NOW BUT NOW WE ARE VERY SOLID LEGAL FOUNDATION AND CAN SURVIVE A MYRIAD OF CHALLENGES. IF YOU LOOK AT SOME OF THE LOSSES THAT ARE COMING OUT OF CALIFORNIA AND THE FAR LEFT, THEY ARE REALLY MAKING A VALID LEGAL CLAIM THESE ARE POLICY OBJECTIONS. THE ADMINISTRATION IS A GOOD LEGAL FOOTING BECAUSE OF THE DELIVERANCE OF NATURE THAT THEY TOOK. BQ ONE OF THE THINGS THAT THEY TOOK. IS RELATED TO RACISM. BUT SPECIFICALLY WHEN IT COMES TO THIS POLICY NUMBER OF IMMIGRANT ORGANIZATIONS HAVE COME OUT AND PUSH BACK. AMONG THEM THE NATIONAL IMMIGRATION LAW CENTER. SHE WRITES IF YOU ARE NOT WHITE AND WEALTHY YOU ARE NO LONGER WEALTHY --DASH WELCOME WELCOME IN THIS COUNTRY. YOUR RESPONSE TO THIS IS SOMETHING TO RATE IMMIGRANTS. FROM OTHER COUNTRIES. >> I WOULD ENCOURAGE HER TO READ THE RULE. IT IS A RACIALLY NEUTRAL RULE IT DOES NOT CARE WHAT COLOR YOU ARE. IT APPLIES TO PEOPLE ACROSS THE BOARD. I'LL SHOW YOU, WHEREVER YOU WANT. IT IS RACIALLY NEUTRAL IS SIMPLY ASKING THE IMMIGRANTS WHO WISH TO COME INTO THIS
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