>> Shannon: TRACE GALLAGHER

LIVE IN A LAKE THANK YOU.

PRESIDENT TRUMP HAVING THE

BORDER WALL IN CALIFORNIA AND

SAYS HE IS GOING TO TAKE ON THE

HOMELESSNESS CRISIS.

CALIFORNIA LEADERS, YOU HEARD

TREY SAY, SUE OVER HIS NOSE

POLICY ANNOUNCEMENT, SO LET'S

DEBATE WITH A COUPLE OF OUR

FAVORITE WEST COASTERS, HOST OF

LEFT COAST NEWS, ETHAN BEARMAN,

AND HOST OF THE NEXT REVOLUTION

RIGHT HERE ON FOX NEWS, D, BOTH

TURNING HIS LIFE.

GREAT TO HAVE YOU GENTLEMEN.

>> HI, SHANNON.

>> Shannon: OKAY, SO THERE IS

A LOT THERE.

LET'S START WITH THE

HOMELESSNESS ISSUE.

HERE IS WHAT -- ABOUT THE FED

GETTING INVOLVED AT THE STATE

AND LOCAL OFFICIALS DON'T GET IT

UNDER CONTROL.

>> IF THESE DEMOCRAT LIBERAL

POLITICIANS DON'T STRAIGHTEN IT

OUT, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT WILL

HAVE TO COME IN.

WE ARE NOT GOING TO LOSE CITIES

LIKE LOS ANGELES, TIMBER CISCO,

AND OTHERS THAT ARE GREAT

CITIES, WE ARE NOT GOING TO

ALLOW THAT TO HAPPEN TO OUR

CITIES.

>> Shannon: STATE OFFICIALS

THERE DID NOT RECEIVE THAT NEWS

VERY WELL.

>> WELL, THAT'S BECAUSE WHAT IT

DOES IS SHINE A SPOTLIGHT ON

THEIR FAILURE, AND IT'S A

FAILURE FOR MANY, MANY YEARS.

IF YOU HAVE BEN CARSON THERE --

HE WAS MET BY PROTESTERS.

SOME OF THE MOST RIDICULOUS

SLOGANS I'VE EVER HEARD.

I JUST WANT TO REDO WHAT THEY

WERE SAYING.

YOU ARE TO BLAME, MAKING PEOPLE

HOMELESS IS YOUR GAME.

DR. CARSON, IT'S NO LIE, YOU'RE

THE REASON WE SLEEP OUTSIDE.

THAT IS SO STUPID.

IF YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S BEEN GOING

ON IN CALIFORNIA FOR YEARS, THE

PEOPLE WHO ARE OUTSIDE FOR

SLEEPING ON THE STREETS, BOTH

SUFFERING AND CAUSING SO MANY

PROBLEMS, THE VAST MAJORITY OF

THEM EITHER HAVE MENTAL HEALTH

PROBLEMS OR DRUG ADDICTION OR

BOTH AND IT'S THE FAILURE OF THE

AUTHORITIES IN THIS STATE, STATE

AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, TO ACTUALLY

DEAL WITH THAT IN A DIRECT WAY,

TO SAY IF YOU'VE GOT MENTAL

HEALTH PROBLEMS AND ARE SLEEPING

ON THE STREET, WE NEED TO PUT

YOU INTO TREATMENT.

IF YOU'VE GOT DRUG ADDICTION

PROBLEMS, WE NEED TO FORCE YOU

TO GO INTO REHAB.

YOU CAN'T BE OUT THERE SLEEPING

ON THE STREET, BUT THEY HAVE

REFUSED TO DO THAT AND NOW

FINALLY THERE IS SOME

ACCOUNTABILITY COMING AND THAT'S

WHAT THEY DON'T LIKE, NO WONDER

THEY ARE COMPLAINING ABOUT IT.

>> Shannon: SOMEONE ELSE

COMPLAINING IS A BUSINESS OWNER

OUT THERE IN CALIFORNIA WHO SAYS

HE IS CONSIDERING CLOSING DOWN

BECAUSE OF THE PROBLEM.

IT IS WHAT HE TOLD OUR OWN

TUCKER CARLSON.

>> WE TRIED TO CALL THE POLICE

TO HAVE THEM INTERVENE AND

ARREST THEM AND IN THE PROCESS

HE DECIDED TO BITE ME IN ONE OF

THE STATEMENTS HE MADE WAS WHY

ARE YOU IN CALLING THE POLICE,

THEY ARE NOT GOING TO DO

ANYTHING, THEY'RE JUST GOING TO

LET ME GO.

>> Shannon: WHAT ABOUT THAT

PROBLEM?

>> IS HORRIBLE AND I HATE TO SEE

THAT HAPPEN AT ALL AND PEOPLE DO

GET ATTACKED SOMETIMES AND IT'S

TERRIBLE THAT WE DON'T TAKE THE

TIME TO DIFFERENTIATE BETWEEN

VISIBLE HOMELESS AND THE

INVISIBLE HOMELESS.

AT WHAT STEVE WAS REFERRING TO,

AND WHAT THAT BUSINESS ARE DEALT

WITH OR WHAT WE CALL THE VISIBLE

HOMELESS, THOSE WHO ARE OUT IN

OUR PATHS, THEY ARE BLOCKING

SIDEWALKS, THEY HAVE MENTAL

HEALTH ISSUES AND WE FINALLY

COME AFTER 50 YEARS OF COURT

RULINGS THAT HAVE TIED THE HANDS

OF CITY AND STATE LEADERS HERE

IN THE STATE OF CALIFORNIA, HAVE

STARTED TO FINALLY MAKE SOME

PROGRESS WITH NEW

CONSERVATORSHIP RULES.

WE TRY TO ADDRESS THE HOUSING

CRISIS THAT DR. BEN CARSON HAS

SO FUNDAMENTALLY WRONG.

IT'S ACTUALLY MARKET PROBLEM,

OVER 3 MILLION UNITS OF HOUSING

SHORT, WHICH THE FEDS COULD HELP

WITH AS OPPOSED TO RAISING THE

PRICE THAT PEOPLE THAT ARE ON

SECTION 8 VOUCHERS HAVE TO

CONTRIBUTE, WHICH IS WHAT

DR. CARSON HAS PROPOSED.

WE NEED TO BE HELPING THESE

PEOPLE, THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT

CAN HELP IN A LOT OF DIFFERENT

WAYS, BUT YOU DO MEAN TO

DEMONIZE, TO COMPLAIN, 50 YEARS

OF BAD POLICIES AND MISSPENT

MONEY HAD ABSOLUTELY CONTRIBUTED

TO THE PROBLEM BUT WE HAVE

LEADERS WERE FINALLY TRYING TO

ADDRESS IT AND WE COULD USE SOME

POSITIVE HELP FROM THE FEDERAL

GOVERNMENT.

>> Shannon: STEVE, YOUR

RESPONSE?

>> SORRY.

ETHAN, WE KNOW EACH OTHER, I'D

LIKE YOU VERY MUCH, BUT THAT IS

COMPLETELY WRONG.

THE LEADERS ARE NOT ADDRESSING

THE PROBLEM.

IF THE PROBLEM IS GETTING WORSE,

NOT BETTER.

THE NUMBERS ARE GOING UP, NOT

DOWN.

THEIR HANDS HAVEN'T BEEN TIED IN

THIS RESPECT, THEY HAVE BEEN

TIED BY THEIR FAILURE TO

CONFRONT PROGRESSIVE IDEOLOGY,

WHICH SAYS WE ARE NOT GOING TO

CONFRONT THESE PROBLEMS --

>> THE COURT RULINGS THAT TIE

THEM DOWN.

>> THAT'S NOT CORRECT.

IN NEW YORK, FOR EXAMPLE.

>> THAT IS CORRECT, I CAN CITE

YOU THE CASES AGAINST THE CITY

OF LOS ANGELES.

THE CITY OF BOISE AND THE

NINTH CIRCUIT.

THOSE ARE FEDERAL CASES THAT

ACTUALLY TELL THE CITIES THEY

CAN'T DO CERTAIN THINGS UNTIL

THEY ADDRESS THINGS LIKE HOUSIN

HOUSING.

>> WHY CAN THEY DO IT IN

NEW YORK?

WHY CAN THEY DO IT IN NEW YORK?

>> BECAUSE THEY ARE IN THE

NINTH CIRCUIT'S OF THOSE COURTS

ARE IN THIS AREA, THAT'S WHAT

THE LAW WORKS.

>> Shannon: STEVE, GET UP THAT

SENTENCE ABOUT THE 95% SO WE CAN

HEAR WHAT YOU'RE SAYING.

>> 95% OF PEOPLE IN NEW YORK WHO

DON'T HAVE HOUSING AND SHELTER

ARE IN ACCOMMODATION -- THEY ARE

NOT SLEEPING ON THE STREETS IN

CALIFORNIA IS 25%.

THE NUMBERS ARE GETTING WORSE

AND THE PROBLEM IS THAT THESE

LEADERS IN THE STATE AND LOCAL

LEVEL IN CALIFORNIA JUST WON'T

STAND UP TO THE LIBERAL

PROGRESSIVE IDEOLOGY BUT SAYS WE

ARE GOING TO BE SOFT AND

HANDS-OFF ABOUT THIS TERRIBLE

PUBLIC HEALTH CRISIS, NEVER MIND

A HUMAN CRISIS AND THE PEOPLE

AFFECTED.

>> Shannon: WILL AGREE IT IS A