SO THERE IS THE PRESIDENT

YESTERDAY, HE WAS BRINGING

REPUBLICAN CONGRESSMAN FROM

THE GREAT STATE OF

CALIFORNIA, DEVIN NUNES.

RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE

INTEL COMMITTEE.

SIR, GREAT TO HAVE YOU.

THIS STORY ABOUT THE BIDENS

HAS BEEN PERCOLATING, YOU

KNOW, JUST BELOW THE SURFACE

IN WASHINGTON FOR A WHILE.

>> THAT'S RIGHT.

IT'S THE ONLY THE LEAST BEST

KEPT SECRET IN WASHINGTON.

JOHN SOLOMON FROM THE HILL

HAS HAD THIS FOR MONTHS AND

MONTHS AND MONTHS.

NUMEROUS STORIES ABOUT IT.

RUDY GIULIANI HAS BEEN ON

EVERY MAINSTREAM MEDIA NEWS

SHOW SEVERAL MONTHS AGO.

UKRAINES HAVE BEEN COMING TO

CONGRESS MEETING WITH

NUMEROUS MEMBERS OF

CONGRESS.

THEY CLAIM THEY HAVE

DOCUMENTS THAT WE WOULD HAVE

AN INTEREST IN THAT RELATE

TO THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION

AS IT RELATES TO THIS BLACK

LEDGER, SOME PEOPLE HAVE

HEARD OF THIS AND THEY CLAIM

THAT'S DISINFORMATION.

AND THEY ALSO CLAIM THAT

THIS CONTRACT WITH BIDEN'S

SON WAS A PROBLEM.

SO, THE IDEA THAT YOU FAST

FORWARD ALL THE WAY TO LATE

JULY THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP

WOULD HAVE SOME CONVERSATION

TRYING TO PRESSURE THE

UKRAINIAN PRESIDENT DOESN'T

ADD UP.

BECAUSE EVERYONE KNEW IT

INCLUDING THE PRESIDENT'S

OWN PERSONAL LAWYER RUDY

GIULIANI.

BRIAN: THE QUESTION IS GOING

TO THE "THE WASHINGTON

POST."

THE WHISTLEBLOWER EVIDENTLY

IS SPEAKING TO SOMEBODY

WHILE IS HE WAITING TO FIND

OUT IF HE CAN SPEAK TO YOUR

COMMITTEE, ADAM SCHIFF NOW

CHAIRS.

HE SAID 8 TIMES THE

PRESSURE -- THE PRESIDENT

BROUGHT IT UP.

AND, IN TURN, MYSTERIOUSLY

THE AID, BILLIONS OF DOLLARS

WAS HELD UP TO UKRAINE

MYSTERIOUSLY BETWEEN JULY

AND AUGUST.

THEY WONDER IF THERE WAS A

LINK.

WOULD IT BOTHER IF YOU THERE

WAS A LINK BETWEEN THAT?

>> WELL, I THINK IT IS VERY

TOUGH TO SPECULATE.

BUT I WANT TO GO BACK AND

JUST, YOU KNOW, REITERATE

WHAT WE TALKED ABOUT.

THE UKRAINIANS WERE TRYING

TO GIVE US THIS INFORMATION

THERE WOULD BE NO REASON

WHY -- THEY JUST WANT TO

GIVE IT TO THE RIGHT PEOPLE

IN OUR GOVERNMENT ACE

UNDERSTOOD IT.

SO, IN THE RIGHT PLACE TO

SEND THAT INFORMATION WOULD

BE THE DEPARTMENT OF

JUSTICE.

AINSLEY: AMERICANS ARE

NOT -- WE DON'T TRUST OTHER

COUNTRIES.

UKRAINE, CAN WE EVEN TRUST

WHAT THEY SAY.

WHEN YOU LOOK AT THIS MAN

WHO IS RUNNING FOR

PRESIDENT.

HE WAS OUR VICE PRESIDENT.

HE HAS ADMITTED ON CAMERA

THAT HE WANTED TO FIRE THIS

PROSECUTOR.

HE ENDED UP FIRING HIM

WITHIN SEVERAL HOURS.

AND THEN HE SAYS HE NEVER

TALKED TO HIS SON ABOUT HIS

SUCCESSFUL BUSINESS

ENDEAVORS.

BUT THEN HIS SON TELLS THE

NEW YORKER MAGAZINE YES, I

DID TALK TO MY DAD ABOUT IT

ONCE.

WHO IS TELLING THE TRUTH AND

WHAT'S GOING ON HERE?

ISN'T THAT THE REAL ABUSE OF

POWER OR IS THE PRESIDENT

HAVING THIS CONVERSATION?

>> WELL, THE VERY THING THEY

ARE ACCUSING PRESIDENT TRUMP

OF DOING, BIDEN DID.

AND ADMITTED THAT HE DID.

SO, AND I JUST GO BACK TO

IT, WHAT IS THIS ALL ABOUT?

THIS IS A WHISTLE BLOWER AS

YOU SAID, BRIAN, THAT

SUPPOSEDLY WANTS TO REMAIN

SECRET.

YET, ALL HIS SECRETS, HIS OR

HER SECRETS ARE SPILLING OUT

IN THE PAGES OF THE "NEW

YORK TIMES," "THE WASHINGTON

POST," NBC NEWS.

WE HAVE NO IDEA.

THIS COULD NOT EVEN BE ABOUT

UKRAINE.

WE HAVE SEEN ABSOLUTELY

NOTHING.

WE GOT BRIEFED LAST WEEK

FROM THE ICIG CAME AND MET

WITH US.

DIDN'T TELL US ANY

INFORMATION.

SO WE ARE SUPPOSED TO MEET

WITH WEEK WITH THE ACTING

D&I.

MAYBE WE WILL GET MORE

INFORMATION URGE.

BRIAN: THIS IS WHAT THE

PRESIDENT WAS REFERRING.

TO SAY KNOW HE WHAT THE

CONVERSATION WAS ABOUT.

I THINK THERE WAS NO

PRESSURE.

THIS CONVERSATION WAS LONG.

IT WAS FRIENDLY.

IT TOUCHED ON MANY

QUESTIONS, SOMETIMES

REQUIRING SERIOUS ANSWERS.

THEY ARE CONCERNED BECAUSE

UKRAINIANS NEED OUR MONEY SO

MUCH AND SUPPORT SO MUCH

THEY DON'T WANT TO GET

INVOLVED IN AMERICAN

POLITICS.

>> RIGHT.

BRIAN: THEY ARE FRONT AND

CENTER.

BIG STORY WITH UKRAINE IS

PRESIDENT OBAMA LET THEM GET

CAUGHT UP WITH THE RUSSIANS

AND GAVE THEM BLANKETS AND

MREs AND THIS PRESIDENT

GAVE THEM LETHAL WEAPONS TO

DEFEND THEMSELVES.

>> NO ONE WAS CONCERNED

ABOUT RUSSIA UNTIL AFTER

HILLARY CLINTON LOST THE

ELECTION.

OF THE REPUBLICANS ON THE

HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE

AND IN THE HOUSE WERE

PRESSURING THE OBAMA

ADMINISTRATION, HEY, HERE IS

MONEY.

GET WEAPONS TO THE

UKRAINIANS THEY DIDN'T CARE

ABOUT RUSSIA UNTIL AFTER THE

ELECTION.

THEN ALL OF A SUDDEN RAUSH

WAS THE BIGGEST PROBLEM ON

THE FACE OF THE PLANET.

I THINK WHAT THIS ULTIMATELY

AMOUNTS TO YOU SEE BIDEN IS

FLAILING, I THINK, IN THE

POLLS.

ALMOST LOOKS LIKE SOME TYPE

6 POLITICAL OPERATION.

DOESN'T IT FEEL LIKE THE

RUSSIA HOAX ALL OVER AGAIN?

ALMOST LIKE THE UKRAINIAN

HOAX.

STEVE: WHAT ABOUT THE

WHISTLE BLOWER APPARENTLY

THE STORY IS ON FRIDAY WE

ALL PRESUMED THAT THIS WAS

SOMEBODY WHO HAD ACTUALLY

HEARD THE PRESIDENT SAY IT

OR READ THE TRANSCRIPT.

NOW IT HAS BEEN REVEALED.

I THINK CNN REVEALED

APPARENTLY THIS PARTICULAR

PERSON HAD NO DIRECT

KNOWLEDGE OF IT.

>> RIGHT.

STEVE: ALMOST SOUNDED LIKE

HE HAD HEARD SOMEBODY SAY

SOMETHING.

BRIAN: HE HAD A CUP AGAINST

THE WALL.

STEVE: NOW HIS COMPLAINT IS

THE WHISTLEBLOWER COMPLAINT

AND THAT'S WHY THE

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE SAYS

NO IT DOESN'T RISE TO THE

LEVEL WHERE YOU AND CONGRESS

WOULD WIND UP SAYING IT?

>> ONE OF THE THINGS I SAID

YESTERDAY IF CONGRESS GETS

TO LISTEN IN AND READ

TRANSCRIPTS OF THE

PRESIDENT'S TALKING, I MEAN,

I'M ALL FOR IT BUT I WANT TO

START WITH WHAT DID BIDEN

SAY TO THE UKRAINIANS?

WHAT DID OBAMA SAY TO PUTIN?

AINSLEY: PRESIDENT SAID I

WANT TO RELEASE THE

TRANSCRIPTS THE QUESTION IS

COUNTY WORLD LEADERS TRUST

ME?

I NEED TO HAVE ARE

CONVERSATIONS WITH THEM

THERE IS A FINE LINE THERE.

BRIAN: REMEMBER WHEN JULIAN

ASSANGE LET ALL THOSE STATE

DEPARTMENT CABLES OUT HOW

EMBARRASSING IT WAS?

>> REMEMBER, THE PRESIDENT

HAD -- REMEMBER, HE HAD HIS

TRANSCRIPTS WITH THE MEXICAN

PRIME MINISTER LEAK OUT.

AND THE AUSTRALIAN PRIME

MINISTER LEAK OUT.

SO THIS WOULD JUST BE

ANOTHER EXAMPLE OF THAT

WHERE PIECES OF HIS PRIVATE

CONVERSATIONS ARE LEAKING

OUT ALL OVER.

BRIAN: GUESS WHAT YOU ARE

GOING TO BE DOING.

TALKING IMPEACHMENT.

HERE ARE THE DEMOCRATS

LETTING US KNOW WE HAVE NO

CHOICE.

LISTEN.

>> THIS WOULD BE THE MOST

PROFOUND VIOLATION OF THE

PRESIDENTIAL OATH OF OFFICE.

THERE IS NO PRIVILEGE THAT

COVERS CORRUPTION.

>> WE KNOW THAT THERE IS

ABSOLUTELY NO EQUIVALENCE

BETWEEN HUNTER BIDEN AND JOE

BIDEN AND WHAT THIS

PRESIDENT IS -- HAS

POTENTIALLY DONE.

WE NEED TO MOVE FORWARD WITH

IMPEACHMENT.

NOT EVEN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY

AT THIS POINT.

WE ARE BEYOND THAT WE ARE AT

IMPEACHMENT, PERIOD.

>> EVERYBODY WANTS TO

IMPEACH BUT WE DON'T KNOW

WHAT FOR.

I WILL GO BACK, TO WE HAVE

NO IDEA WHAT THIS

WHISTLEBLOWER HAS EVEN IF HE

HAS ANYTHING.

BRIAN: MICHAEL HOROWITZ IS

ABOUT TO COME OUT WITH HIS

REPORT.

DID HE AT THIS

DID HE TT THIS

DID HE TIPTHIS

DID HE TIP YIS

DID HE TIP YOU OFF WHAT

COULD BE IN IT AND WHAT WE

SHOULD BE FOCUSED ON.

>> REMEMBER, HOUSE

REPUBLICANS ON THE

INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE

ALREADY SURMISED AND CAME

OUT WITH A REPORT THAT THERE

WAS FISA ABUSE.

SO WE KNOW THERE WAS FISA

ABUSE.

THE ONLY QUESTION IS THERE

WAS FOUR RENEWALS ON IT.

FOUR SEPARATE TIMES THEY

WENT TO THE FISA COURT.

WE BELIEVE ALL FOUR OF THOSE

WERE FRAUDULENT.

WE HOPE THAT THERE IS NEW

EVIDENCE THAT WHO ARE WIGHTS

IS ABLE TO GET IS, YOU KNOW,

WHEN DID THIS INVESTIGATION

BEGIN?

WHEN DID THEY FIRST TAKE