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  • ADAM SCHIFF SAID HE IS LOOKING

  • FORWARD TO THE WHISTLE-BLOWER'S

  • TESTIMONY AS SOON AS THIS WEEK.

  • ANDREW NAPOLITANO IS HERE.

  • WE HAD A LOT OF BUSY NEWS DAY'S

  • BUT GETTING YOUR HANDS AROUND

  • ALL THAT HAS HAPPENED TODAY IS

  • VERY DIFFICULT.

  • I WANT TO BREAK THIS DOWN TO

  • SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE.

  • THE PRESIDENT ADMITS THAT ON THE

  • PHONE CALL WITH THE PRESIDENT OF

  • THE UKRAINE HE REQUESTED THAT

  • THE PRESIDENT OF THE UKRAINE

  • INVESTIGATE HIS 2020 POLITICAL

  • RIVAL, JOE BIDEN.

  • IS THAT A CRIME?

  • >> IT IS A CRIME FOR THE PRESENT

  • TO SOLICIT AID FOR HIS CAMPAIGN

  • FROM A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT.

  • >> Shepard: SO THAT TO WHICH

  • THE PRESIDENT HAS ADMITTED IS IN

  • AND OF ITSELF A CRIME.

  • >> YES, IT IS THE SAME CRIME FOR

  • WHICH THE ORGANIZATION DECIDED

  • NOT TO SEEK AN INDICTMENT.

  • >> THAT'S ON THE OBSTRUCTION OF

  • JUSTICE, WHETHER OR NOT THERE

  • WAS A CONSPIRACY THEORY.

  • HE SAID THERE'S SOME EVIDENCE

  • BUT NOT ENOUGH TO INDICT.

  • AND IT'S THE SAME CRIME, AN

  • AGREEMENT OR SOLICITATION FOR

  • ASSISTANCE FOR AN AMERICAN

  • CAMPAIGN REGULATED BY THE

  • FEDERAL ELECTION COMMISSION.

  • >> Shepard: AT RUDY GIULIANI'S

  • THAT HE TOO PRESSED HER

  • UKRAINIAN OFFICIALS TO

  • INVESTIGATE BIDEN AT THE

  • SUGGESTION OF THE

  • ADMINISTRATION.

  • >> IF IT WAS DONE AS PART OF THE

  • REELECTION, IF THE PRESIDENT

  • WANTED -- SAID I WANT YOU TO

  • INVESTIGATE THE PRINCIPLE.

  • >> Shepard: THERE

  • WHISTLE-BLOWER FIRST REPORT OF

  • THE PRESIDENTS ACTION AND

  • UNSPECIFIED OTHER ACTIONS.

  • INSPECTOR GENERAL DEEMED THAT

  • INFORMATION CREDIBLE AND OF

  • URGENT CONCERN, RATHER THAN TAKE

  • THAT COMPLAINT TO THE CONGRESS,

  • THE INSPECTOR GENERAL WENT TO

  • THE ADMINISTRATION FOR GUIDANCE

  • AND THE ADMINISTRATION BLOCKED

  • ITS TRANSFER TO THE CONGRESS.

  • IS THAT A PROBLEM LEGALLY?

  • >> YES, THE ADMINISTRATION IS ON

  • VERY THIN ICE.

  • THE STATUTE SAYS

  • INSPECTOR GENERAL, IF HE FINDS A

  • COMPLAINT TO BE AT CREDIBLE AND

  • URGENT SHALL, NOT MAY, SHALL,

  • SHARE IT WITH A GANG OF EIGHT.

  • THE GANG OF EIGHT IS THE

  • BIPARTISAN LEADERSHIP OF BOTH

  • HOUSES OF CONGRESS AND THE

  • BIPARTISAN READERSHIP OF BOTH

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEES.

  • HE DIDN'T DO THAT.

  • HE GOT -- THE RULING FROM THE

  • JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAYS, WAIT A

  • MINUTE.

  • THE COMPLAINT WAS FILED WITH THE

  • INSPECTOR GENERAL OF THE

  • INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY.

  • THE PRESIDENT DOESN'T WEIGHT,

  • AND THEREFORE THAT COMPLAINT IS

  • MOVED.

  • THE CONGRESS HAS EVERY RIGHT

  • UNDER THE STATUTE TO KNOW ABOUT

  • IT AND THAT'S WHERE WE STAND

  • LEGALLY.

  • AND, AND THOSE ARE THINGS THAT

  • THE PRESIDENT HAS ADMITTED.

  • THE PRESIDENT HAS ADMITTED THAT,

  • INVESTIGATING HIS UPCOMING 2020

  • PRESIDENTIAL RIVAL.

  • HOW SERIOUS IS THIS MATTER FOR

  • THE NATION AND THE DEMOCRACY

  • LEGALLY SPEAKING?

  • >> ABSOLUTELY IT IS IMPEACHABLE

  • OFFENSE AND WHY DO I SAY THAT?

  • IT'S STATED IN THE CONSTITUTION.

  • TREASON, BRIBERY, OTHER HIGH

  • CRIMES AND MISDEMEANORS.

  • THE PRESIDENT OF THE UKRAINE,

  • THAT WOULD BE AN IMPEACHABLE IN

  • OFFENSE.

  • >> FIRST, THERE WAS A

  • WITHHOLDING OF THE AID, WHICH

  • THE CONGRESS IN A BIPARTISAN WA

  • WAY.

  • THEN THE PRESIDENT WITHOUT

  • EXPLANATION AT THE TIME DROPPED

  • THAT TRANSFER OF MONEY.

  • THEN, IT SITS CONFIRMED BY

  • FOX NEWS THAT THERE WAS A PHONE

  • CALL DURING WHICH THE FORMER

  • VICE PRESIDENT, AND THAT'S WHY

  • YOU ARE GETTING TO THIS BRIBERY

  • ACCUSATION?

  • >> YES.

  • NOW THE GRAND JURY AS THE HOUSE

  • OF REPRESENTATIVES AND THEY

  • DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT THIS

  • CONSTITUTES BRIBERY.

  • THE TRIAL JURY IS THE SENATE AND

  • THEY ALSO DECIDE WHETHER OR NOT

  • THIS CONSTITUTES BRIBERY.

  • WHAT WORDS TO THE PRESIDENT USE?

  • DID THE PRESIDENT USE CODE

  • WORDS, AS ONE OF HIS FORMER

  • LAWYER SAID HE OFTEN DOES WHEN

  • HE KNOWS OTHERS ARE YOU

  • LISTENING TO HIS CONVERSATIONS?

  • DID THE RECIPIENT OF THOSE WORDS

  • UNDERSTAND THEM TO BE THE CODE

  • WORDS?

  • THE CONVERSATION THAT PRESIDENT

  • ZELINSKI HAD WITH

  • SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY OF

  • CONNECTICUT WILL COME INTO THIS

  • BECAUSE CHRIS MURPHY OF

  • CONNECTICUT SAID DON'T DO WHAT

  • THE PRESIDENT ASKED EACH OF YOU

  • AND PRESIDENT ZELINSKI SAID,

  • DON'T WORRY, WE ARE GOING TO DO

  • IT.

  • >> Shepard: OFTEN IT'S

  • DIFFICULT TO SEE THE FOREST FROM

ADAM SCHIFF SAID HE IS LOOKING

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