FOR THAT WELL THE OTHER DAY

DEMOCRATS APPEARED TO BE

DIVIDED ON THE QUESTION OF

IMPEACHING THE PRESIDENT.

THIS WEEK THEY APPEAR TO BE

NEARLY UNANIMOUS.

A FEW HOLDOUTS ARE WARNING

THAT AN IMPEACHMENT PUSH IS

A MISTAKE, BAD FOR THE

COUNTRY AND POSSIBLY COUNTER

PRODUCTIVE POLITICALLY.

ONE OF THEM IS CONGRESSMAN

JEFF VAN DREW REPRESENTS NEW

JERSEY.

THANKS FOR COMING ON.

>> IT'S MY PLEASURE TO BE

WITH YOU.

>> Tucker: YOU ARE A

DEMOCRAT.

I WILL SAY A CONSERVATIVE

DEMOCRAT BUT YOU ARE A

DEMOCRAT.

AND THE EASY THING WOULD BE

TO GO ALONG WITH YOUR

PARTY'S LEADERSHIP ON THIS

QUESTION BUT YOU ARE NOT.

WHY?

>> I HAVE NEVER BEEN GOOD AT

THAT TO BEGIN WITH.

JUST VERY BRIEFLY, PEOPLE

WILL SAY, YOU KNOW, YOUR JOB

IS TO BE A GOOD DEMOCRAT OR

A GOOD REPUBLICAN AND I KEEP

EMPHASIZING YOUR

RESPONSIBILITY AND JOB IS TO

BE A GOOD AMERICAN.

SO I GO WHAT I BELIEVE IN MY

HEART IS RIGHT AND IN MY

BRAIN.

AND IT SEEMS TO ME AT THIS

POINT IN TIME WE REALLY DO

WANT TO ACCOMPLISH SOME

GOALS, INFRASTRUCTURE NEEDS

TO BE DEALT WITH.

HEALTHCARE NEEDS TO BE DEALT

WITH PRESCRIPTION DRUGS NEED

TO BE DEALT WITH.

YOU KNOW, ELECTION, YOU

KNOW, ELECTIONS NEED TO BE

DEALT WITH AS FAR AS MAKING

SURE THAT THEY ARE SECURE.

I CAN GIVE YOU A WHOLE LONG

LIST, TUCKER.

THE POINT IS I REALLY

BELIEVE THE MORE THAT WE

DELVE INTO THIS THE MORE

TIME WE SPEND ON IT

ESPECIALLY IN A MACROLEVEL

THE MORE WE ARE NOT GOING TO

BE ABLE TO SPEND TIME ON

THESE OTHER ISSUES THAT ARE

IMPORTANT.

AND IT'S NOT BECAUSE WE

CAN'T WALK AND CHEW GUM AT

THE SAME TIME.

SOMEBODY BROUGHT THAT UP.

WE CAN WALK AND CHEW GUM.

THE PROBLEM IS WHEN WE ARE

THIS DIVIDED AND THIS SPLIT

AND TWO POLITICAL PARTIES

AND ALL GOING ON PEOPLE ARE

NOT GOING TO WORK TOGETHER.

OF THE PRESIDENT IS NOT

GOING TO BE SIGNING BILLS.

THE SENATE BILLS ARE NOT

GOING TO BE GOING THROUGH

THE HOUSE.

THE HOUSE BILLS AREN'T GOING

TO BE GOING THROUGH THE

SENATE.

AT THE END OF THE DAY, I AM

AFRAID THAT ALL WE ARE GOING

TO HAVE A FAILED

IMPEACHMENT.

FOLKS NEED TO UNDERSTAND, I

MEAN MAYBE THERE ARE THOSE

THAT WANT TO PUNISH THE

PRESIDENT OR MAKE A POINT

AND I UNDERSTAND THAT.

BUT THE BOTTOM LINE IS HE IS

STILL GOING TO BE THE

PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED

STATES AND THE BOTTOM LINE

IS HE IS STILL GOING TO BE

THE CANDIDATE FOR THE

REPUBLICAN PARTY.

SO WHY DON'T WE LET THE

PEOPLE DO THE IMPEACHMENT BY

VOTING IN THE ELECTORAL

PROCESS THE WAY THAT WE

USUALLY DO.

>> Tucker: YOU MEAN

DEMOCRACY?

>> ABSOLUTELY.

I LOVE IT.

>> Tucker: NOT A POPULAR

CONCEPT IN WASHINGTON.

I GUESS THE POLITICAL

QUESTION, OF COURSE I AGREE

WITH EVERYTHING YOU SAID AND

I COMMEND YOU FOR CARING

ABOUT THOSE ISSUES BECAUSE I

THINK THEY ARE BIPARTISAN

FUNDAMENTALLY.

BUT EVERYTHING YOU SAID IS

PRETTY OBVIOUS.

I MEAN, NO OFFENSE TO EITHER

ONE OF US BUT, YOU KNOW,

ANYONE CAN FIGURE IT OUT

INCLUDING THE SMART PEOPLE

WHO RUN YOUR PARTY.

SO, THEY KNOW THEY ARE NOT

GOING TO GET A CONVICTION.

THIS ISN'T GOING TO WORK.

THERE IS NO CHANCE OF IT

WORKING, SO WHY ARE THEY

DOING IT?

>> I'M NOT SURE I CAN ANSWER

THAT I THINK PART OF IT IS

THEY BELIEVE THAT THE

PRESIDENT SHOULD BE HELD

ACCOUNTABLE FOR SOME THINGS

THAT HE HAS DONE.

YOU KNOW, BY ALL ACCOUNTS,

NOBODY EVER PRETENDED THAT

HE IS PERFECT OR THERE

AREN'T SOME ISSUES.

BUT, YOU KNOW, I ALWAYS USE

THE EXAMPLE EVEN DURING THE

CLINTON ADMINISTRATION AND

WHEN THAT IMPEACHMENT -- BY

THE WAY, I WAS ALSO NOT FOR

THAT.

AND WE SAW THAT IT DIDN'T

REALLY BEAR ANY FRUIT,

WASTED A LOT OF TIME AND

MONEY.

>> Tucker: NO, IT DIDN'T.

>> HE HAD SOME SERIOUS

ISSUES THERE.

HE EVEN LOST HIS ABILITY TO

PRACTICE LAW.

HE WAS DISBARRED.

BUT WITH ALL OF THAT

HAPPENING, IT STILL WASN'T

NEARLY ENOUGH FOR

IMPEACHMENT TO GO THROUGH.

HERE'S WHAT FOLKS HAVE TO

UNDERSTAND.

IMPEACHMENT IS A VERY, VERY

SERIOUS, SERIOUS MOVE TO

TAKE BY ANY POLITICAL PARTY

OR POLITICAL ENTITY.

YOU KNOW, WE HAVE TO REALIZE

THAT WHEN YOU IMPEACH

SOMEBODY, IT HAS TO BE FOR

REALLY STRONG REASONS

BECAUSE YOU ARE ALSO, YOU

KNOW, REMOVING THE POWER OF

THE PEOPLE.

YOU ARE DISENFRANCHISING

THEIR VOTE.

WHETHER WE LIKE IT OR NOT.

YOU ARE DISENFRANCHISING

THEIR VOTE.

IT HAS TO BE SERIOUS TO DO

IT.

MY WORRIES ARE GETTING STUFF

DONE.

I REALLY WANT TO DO GOOD

THINGS AND I WANT TO DO IT

IN A BIPARTISAN WAY.

I REALLY WANT TO SEE THE

COUNTRY MOVE FORWARD.

I REALLY KNOW THAT, YOU

KNOW, THIS -- ABROAD I THINK

THAT PEOPLE COULD LOOK AT

THIS AND THINK THAT OUR

COUNTRY IS DISORGANIZE AND

IN TURMOIL THAT WE ARE SPLIT

APART.

I THINK IT WILL SPLIT PEOPLE

IN SOCIETY APART FOLKS

LITERALLY IN THE UNITED

STATES OF AMERICA ARE GOING

TO GET ANGRIER AT EACH

OTHER.

I DON'T BELIEVE IT IS GOING

TO BRING PEOPLE TOGETHER.

THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO DO.

THEN WE HAVE THE ELECTION.

THE OTHER ISSUE BY THE WAY

IS MIDTERM ELECTIONS GOING

ON NOW AND THEN WE ARE

ROLLING RIGHT INTO THE FALL

ELECTIONS FOR PRESIDENT AND

CONGRESS, ET CETERA.

AND I DON'T KNOW THAT WE

NEED TO HAVE ALL OF THIS

GOING ON AT THE SAME TIME.

>> Tucker: I AGREE WITH THAT

AGAIN, AS YOU JUST POINTED

OUT VOTERS GET TO RENDER A

JUDGMENT IN A LITTLE OVER A

YEAR.

>> THEY SURE DO.