I DON'T KNOW THERE WAS A SINGLE

QUESTION THAT WAS ASKED TODAY

THAT HE DIDN'T ANSWER.

AND ANSWER FULLY, WHICH IS

UNIQUE.

AND WHAT WE DO KNOW IS THERE

WAS DEFINITELY NO QUID PRO QUO.

I MEAN, IT CAME OUT OVER AND

OVER.

IT WAS ASKED PROBABLY 20

DIFFERENT TIMES.

>> Sandra: REPUBLICANS AND

DEMOCRATS CLASHING OVER

YESTERDAY'S CLOSED DOOR

INTERVIEW WITH FORMER U.S.

ENVOY TO UKRAINE KURT VOLKER.

HE HANDED OVER DOZENS OF PAGES

OF TEXT MESSAGES SHOWING HIM

AND OTHER DIPLOMATS ARGUING IF

PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS PUSHING

UKRAINE TO INVESTIGATE HIS

POLITICAL RIVAL.

LEE ZELDIN IS A MEMBER OF THE

HOUSE FOREIGN AFFAIRS COMMITTEE.

YOU WERE IN THE ROOM YESTERDAY.

WHAT WAS YOUR BIGGEST TAKEAWAY.

>> I DIDN'T KNOW AMBASSADOR

VOLKER BEFORE YESTERDAY.

I KNEW WHO HE WAS BUT I HAD NOT

MET HIM BEFORE.

HE CAME ACROSS AS CANDID,

GENUINE.

HE WAS VERY WELL VERSED ON

UKRAINE AND YEARS AND REALLY

DECADES OF BACKGROUND HERE.

HE KNEW ALL THE PLAYERS,

PRONUNCIATION OF THEIR NAMES

AND THE SPELLINGS.

I THOUGHT HE WAS A GREAT

WITNESS ANSWERED ALL QUESTIONS

FROM THE REPUBLICANS AND

DEMOCRATS.

AND DURING THAT -- BASICALLY

PUT A DAGGER STRAIGHT TO THE

HEART OF SCHIFF'S FAIRYTALE

IMPEACHMENT STORY HERE WITH

REGARDS TO THE QUID PRO QUO AS

YOU JUST PLAYED FROM THAT PIECE

FROM MARK MEADOWS.

HE HEARD WHAT I DID AS WELL.

AND BASICALLY JUST DESTROYED,

BLEW OFF THAT NARRATIVE WITH

EVERY ANSWER HE GAVE.

>> Sandra: HOW SO?

>> WHERE TO START.

I'LL GIVE YOU ONE EXAMPLE.

FIRST OFF THE ALLEGATION THAT

UKRAINE WOULD BE PROVIDING SOME

TYPE OF ASSISTANCE WITH REGARDS

TO AN INVESTIGATION IN RETURN

FOR SECURITY AID.

THEY HAD NO IDEA THERE WAS A

HOLD ON SECURITY AID AT THE

TIME OF THAT CALL.

AS A MATTER OF FACT THERE WAS A

LOT OF INTERACTION WITH KURT

VOLKER THAT TOOK PLACE IN THE

WEEKS TO FOLLOW THE JULY 25th

PHONE CALL BETWEEN THE TWO

PRESIDENTS.

>> Sandra: WHO IS THEY?

WHEN YOU SAID THEY HAD NO IDEA.

>> UKRAINE.

AMBASSADOR VOL KER WAS IN

PRETTY REGULAR CONTACT WITH THE

UKRAINE GOVERNMENT.

HE HAS RELATIONSHIPS WITH AIDES

TO PRESIDENT ZELENSKY AND HE

MET WITH PRESIDENT ZELENSKY

RIGHT AFTER THE JULY 25th PHONE

CALL.

IN THE READ-OUTS HE RECEIVED

AFTER THE JULY 25th PHONE CALL

FROM NOT JUST THE UNITED STATES

GOVERNMENT BUT THE UKRAINE

GOVERNMENT, UKRAINE HAD NO IDEA

THAT THERE WAS ANY TYPE OF HOLD

ON SECURITY ASSISTANCE.

IT WASN'T BROUGHT UP.

THERE WAS NO CONCERN ABOUT A

QUID PRO QUO IN ANY WAY, SHAPE

OR FORM.

AND THEN --

>> Sandra: THEY KNEW THEY

DIDN'T HAVE THE FUNDS YET,

THOUGH, CORRECT?

>> THEY RAISED NO CONCERN

WHATSOEVER THAT -- THERE WAS NO

BELIEF, THERE WAS NOTHING

EXPRESSED THAT FUNDS WERE NOT

GOING TO BE RECEIVED.

AS A MATTER OF FACT THEY'RE

VERY GRATEFUL BECAUSE NOT ONLY

WAS THERE APPROVALS OVER THE

COURSE OF THIS YEAR.

THEY WERE EXPECTING MONEY, BUT

THERE WAS ALSO GOING TO BE

ADDITIONAL FUNDING IN ORDER TO

PROVIDE LETHAL WEAPONS SYSTEMS

THAT THE PAST ADMINISTRATION

WASN'T WILLING TO PROVIDE.

THE READ-OUTS, THE MEETING WITH

PRESIDENT ZELENSKY, AND THEN

THE FOLLOW-UP -- THE WEEKS THAT

FOLLOWED AND ALL THE

INTERACTION AMBASSADOR VOLKER

HAD WITH AIDES, THEY HAD NO

IDEA THERE WAS A HOLD ON THESE.

>> Sandra: INCLUDING THIS

SEPTEMBER 9th TEXT MESSAGES

THAT I KNOW YOU HAVE HAD A

CHANCE TO LOOK THROUGH AND READ

YOURSELF.

BETWEEN BILL TAYLOR THE TOP

AMERICAN DIPLOMAT IN UKRAINE

AND THE U.S. AMBASSADOR TO THE

E.U.

TAYLOR SUGGESTS THAT THE

PRESIDENT WAS HOLDING BACK THE

PACKAGE OF MILITARY AID TO

UKRAINE AS A BARGAINING CLAIM.

AS I SAID ON THE PHONE I THINK

IT'S CRAZY TO WITHHOLD SECURITY

ASSISTANCE FOR HELP WITH A

POLITICAL CAMPAIGN.

THERE WAS A REPLY I BELIEVE

YOU'RE INCORRECT BY P

PRESIDENT'S INTENTION.

HE HAS BEEN CLEAR NO QUID PRO

QUO OF ANY KIND.

WHY WAS TAYLOR MAKING THE

SUGGESTION THAT THERE WAS GOING

TO BE THE WITHHOLDING OF THAT

AID BY THE PRESIDENT UNTIL AN

AGREEMENT WAS MADE ON BEHALF OF

UKRAINE TO INVESTIGATE THE

BIDENS?

>> WELL FIRST OFF YOUR QUESTION

HIGHLIGHTS EXACTLY WHY THE

TRANSCRIPT FROM YESTERDAY

SHOULD BE RELEASED.

NOT JUST DRIP BY DRIP RELEASED

SELECTIVELY CHERRY PICKING

WHICH TEXTS TO PROVIDE TO THE

MEDIA AND AMERICAN PUBLIC.

THE TRANSCRIPT OF YESTERDAY'S

SEVERAL HOUR-LONG INTERVIEW

WOULD BE VERY GREAT CONTEXT

HERE.

BILL TAYLOR WANTED AID TO BE

PROVIDED TO UKRAINE.

HE BELIEVED IN THE MISSION AS

DID VOLKER AND OTHERS IN THE

UNITED STATES GOVERNMENT.

THEY WANTED THE AID RELEASED.

WHAT YOU SAW FROM AMBASSADOR

SUNDER LUND IMMEDIATELY

SHOOTING DOWN ANY TYPE OF

SPECULATION AS TO WHY THERE WAS

A HOLD.

AMBASSADOR VOLKER TESTIFIED

YESTERDAY THAT EVEN THEY DID

NOT RECEIVE THE REASON AS TO

WHY THERE WAS A HOLD PLACED AT

THAT TIME BUT AS SOON AS THAT

SUGGESTION, THAT QUESTION, THAT

SPECULATION WAS MADE IT WAS

IMMEDIATELY SHOT DOWN.

THERE WAS -- THE PRESIDENT MADE

IT CRYSTAL CLEAR TO OTHER

REPRESENTATIVES WHO WERE PART

OF THIS TEXT EXCHANGE THAT

THERE WAS NO QUID PRO QUO.

THAT IS NOT WHAT THIS SITUATION

IS.

THAT'S WHY THAT WAS SHOT DOWN.

>> Sandra: HE SEEMS TO SUGGEST

IN THE TEXT, HOW DO YOU SEE IT?

I THINK IT'S CRAZY TO WITHHOLD

SECURITY ASSISTANCE FOR HELP

WITH A POLITICAL CAMPAIGN.

SO SOMEHOW BILL TAYLOR WAS LED

TO BELIEVE THERE WAS A PLAN TO

DO THAT.

DOES THAT CONCERN YOU AT ALL?

>> ONCE AGAIN, THIS IS ANOTHER

REASON WHY THAT TRANSCRIPT

SHOULD BE RELEASED.

A GREAT OPPORTUNITY RIGHT NOW

FOR ADAM SCHIFF TO PROVIDE TO

THE AMERICAN PUBLIC TO FORM

THEIR OWN INDEPENDENT DECISION

AND JUDGMENT IS TO PROVIDE THE

TRANSCRIPT.

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT CAME OUT

DURING YESTERDAY'S HEARING

DIFFERENT MEETINGS THAT TOOK

PLACE WITH THE PRESIDENT OF THE

UNITED STATES IN THE OVAL

OFFICE MEETINGS THAT TOOK PLACE

WITH AMBASSADOR JOHN BOLTON,

WITH HIS COUNTERPART IN THE

UKRAINE.

AND WHO WAS IN THAT ROOM?

AMBASSADOR VOLKER WAS IN THAT

ROOM TIME AND AGAIN AND YOU HAD

--

>> Sandra: BEFORE WE GO.

WE'RE SHORT ON TIME HERE.

POMPEO.

SHOULD HE COMPLY WITH TODAY'S

SUBPOENA DEADLINE AND TURN OVER

THOSE DOCUMENTS THAT THEY'RE

DEMANDING?

>> IF HE WANTS TO THAT'S FINE.

WHAT I'M HEARING THE RIGHT MOVE

HERE AND SOMETHING THAT THE

ADMINISTRATION IS SERIOUSLY

CONSIDERING DOING IS FORCING

THE HOUSE TO TAKE A VOTE.

PROCESS-WISE YESTERDAY WE

WEREN'T ABLE TO GET STAFF IN.

CHAIRMAN SCHIFF DIDN'T WANT TO

ALLOW MEMBERS TO ASK QUESTION.

HE WAS DISCOURAGING IT.

WE SHOULD HAVE A VOTE IN THE

HOUSE.

IF THEY WANT TO HAVE AN

IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.

I DON'T BELIEVE WE SHOULD HAVE

ONE.

BUT IF THEY WANT ONE THERE

SHOULD BE A VOTE.

MINORITY RIGHTS, SUBPOENAS FROM

BOTH SIDES.

THE PRESIDENT SHOULD BE

REPRESENTED BY COUNSEL.

HE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PRESENT

EVIDENCE.

IF THEY CHOOSE TO COMPLY TODAY

THAT'S FINE BUT REALLY FORCING

THE HAND OF THE HOUSE I THINK

IS THE RIGHT MOVE HERE.