EITHER.

>> PETER DOOCY, THANK YOU SO

MUCH.

WHITE HOUSE PRESS SECRETARY

GEORGETOWN UNIVERSITY'S

INSTITUTE OF POLITICS AND PUBLIC

SERVICE, BOTH ARE FOX NEWS

CONTRIBUTORS.

ELIZABETH WARREN RISING IN THE

POLLSISH NOT SURPRISING SHE GETS

ADDITIONAL SCRUTINY.

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THE LATEST

SITUATION?

>> OH, YEAH.

THIS IS ABSOLUTELY A REFLECTION

OF HER RISING IN THE POLLS.

A LOT OF PEOPLE OUT THERE WHO

BELIEVE THAT, YOU KNOW, SHE

HASN'T BEEN SCRUTINIZED THE WAY

JOE BIDEN HAS UP UNTIL NOW.

NOW SHE'S THEREUPON NECK AND

NECK WITH HIM.

SO SHE'S GOING TO HAVE TO EXPECT

A LOT MORE INCOMING LIKE THIS.

I DON'T SPEAK FOR HER CAMPAIGN.

I DON'T KNOW WHAT THIS IS ABOUT.

IT COULD BE INNOCUOUS.

A LOT OF WOMEN I KNOW WHO AS

RECENTLY AS A FEW YEARS AGO

WOULDN'T WANT TO TALK ABOUT

GENDER DISCRIMINATION IN THE

WORK PLACE THAT THEY FACED

EARLIER IN THEIR CAREERS.

THEY NOW FEEL EMPOWERED TO DO SO

IN THE #METOO MOVEMENT.

BUT WHATEVER REASON, SHE HAS TO

DEAL WITH THIS.

>> IT 'S THE REVERSE.

IN 2007 SAYING SHE MADE HER OWN

DECISION BUT RUNNING FOR

PRESIDENT IN 2019 SAYING SHE WAS

DISCRIMINATED AGAINST.

>> NO SHORTAGE OF WOMEN AT THAT

POINT WOULD MAKE THE POINT THAT

THE EMPLOYER DID THEM WRONG.

THIS FEELS LIKE HILLARY CLINTON

WHO NEEDS TO SHOW SHE'S THE

TOUGH PERSON TO BE THE COMMANDER

IN CHIEF WHO FABRICATED A STORY

OF BEING UNDER SNIPER FIRE IN

BOSNIA.

ELIZABETH WARREN WANTS TO PROVE

THEY DO THINGS HARMFUL FOR LABOR

AND THIS IS DONE TO HER WHEN SHE

WAS PREGNANT.

THE REAL PROBLEM, THIS ISN'T YOU

GOT YOUR POLICY WRONG, I SAID

THIS BUT I MEANT THAT.

THIS IS A CANDIDATE'S PERSONAL

HISTORY, IT'S KNOWABLE AND

CONTROLLABLE.

IF YOU LIE ABOUT THE PERSONAL

ISSUES, IT DOES CUT BECAUSE

PEOPLE KNOW, THIS CAN'T BE SO,

WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT?

NOT JUST YOUR TYPICAL POLICY

PROBLEM.

THIS IS A CHARACTER ISSUE FOR

HER, IT SEEMS.

>> I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT

THIS.

WE DID HEAR TODAY THAT SENATOR

SANDERS IS OUT AND ABOUT WITH

HIS WIFE.

AND WE KNOW, OF COURSE, HE HAD

THE HEART PROCEDURE LAST WEEK.

WE FOUND OUT ON FRIDAY THAT HIS

DOCTOR SAID HE DID INDEED HAVE A

HEART ATTACK.

"THE WASHINGTON POST" WROTE THIS

ABOUT THE LEADERS OF THE

DEMOCRATIC RACE.

THE TOP FUNDRAISER IN THE

DEMOCRATIC FIELD WAS

HOSPITALIZED FOR A HEART ATTACK.

THE LONG-TIME POLLING LEADER AND

HIS SON SIT IN THE CENTER OF AN

IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND THE ONE

CANDIDATE FACES PERSISTENT

DOUBTS THAT SHE'S TOO LIBERAL TO

WIN AN ELECTION.

WITH BREATHTAKING SPEED, THE

EVENTS HAVE CREATED HUGE

UNCERTAINTY FOR CANDIDATES WHO

DEMOCRATIC NOMINATION RACE.

WE COVERED IT SO CLOSELY YOU

THINK, OH, THIS MUST BE THE

DIRECTION IT'S GOING.

SHE HAS ALL OF THE MOMENTUM.

BUT, WAIT, WE HAVE A FEW MORE

MONTHS TO GO BEFORE THE IOWA

CAUCUSES, IS THIS THING STILL

WIDE OPEN?

>> IT IS STILL WIDE OPEN.

LOOK, I DON'T -- ALL THREE OF US

ARE VETERANS OF PRESIDENTIAL

CAMPAIGNS.

I DON'T THINK ANY OF US HAVE

SEEN A CAMPAIGN FULL OF

CERTAINTY?

RIGHT?

THESE THINGS ARE ALWAYS FULL OF

UNCERTAINTY.

ALL YOU CAN DO AS A CANDIDATE IS

CONTROL YOUR OWN MESSAGE TO THE

BEST THAT YOU CAN.

TO THE EVENTS OF WHAT HAPPENS IN

WASHINGTON AND IN NEWS, THAT'S

GOING TO TAKE YOU ON WHATEVER

WINDING ROAD IT TAKES YOU ON.

YOU'VE GOT TO HAVE A STRONG

ENOUGH MESSAGE TO BE ABLE TO

NAVIGATE THOSE.

>> BUT THE OTHER THING YOU CAN

DO IS TRY TO CAUSE PROBLEMS FOR

YOUR OPPONENTS.

I'M CURIOUS -- WE'LL PROBABLY

NEVER KNOW, WHERE THAT ELIZABETH

WARREN VIDEO SURFACED FROM.

BUT I DON'T THINK IT WAS FROM

THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN.

>> BUT YOU NEVER KNOW ABOUT

THOSE THINGS AND YOU SHOULD

NEVER SAY SOMETHING THAT'S NOT

TRUE BECAUSE YOU GET

CONTRADICTED BY A VIDEOTAPE.

LOOK, THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL IS A

BUMPY TRAIL THIS IS A TEST OF

THEIR CHARACTER.

THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS A

STRAIGHT LINE UPWARD.

EVERY CANDIDATE WILL HAVE UPS

AND DOWNS.

I LIKE THE PROCESS.

THE AMERICAN PEOPLE CAN SEE IT,

SEE HOW YOU REACT, SEE IF YOU

HAVE THE STRENGTH TO HANDLE THE

UPS AND DOWNS OF THE PRESIDENCY.

THE STORIES GET OVERBLOWN.

WE HAVE A 50-50 RACE WITH

WHOEVER THE DEMOCRAT IS AND

PRESIDENT TRUMP.

THOO'S NOT GOING TO CHANGE.