Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles ♪ >> WHEN YOU HAVE HALF A MILLION AMERICANS SLEEPING OUT ON THE STREET TODAY, AND THEN YOU ALSO HAVE THREE PEOPLE OWNING MORE WEALTH THAN THE BOTTOM HALF OF AMERICAN SOCIETY, THAT IS A MORAL AND ECONOMIC OUTRAGE. SO IF YOU'RE ASKING ME, DO I THINK WE SHOULD DEMAND THAT THE WEALTHY START PAYING THE, WEALTHIEST TOP .1 OF 1%, START PAYING THEIR FAIR SHARE OF TAXES, YES, THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I BELIEVE. >> TAXING INCOME IS NOT GOING TO GET YOU WHERE YOU NEED TO BE TO WHERE TAXING WEALTH DOES. WE NEED A WEALTH TAX TO MAKE INVESTMENTS IN THE NEXT GENERATION. BRIAN: THAT IS ONE WAY TO PAY FOR IT. MIKE ROWE, TV HOST, AUTHOR OF A BRAND NEW BOOK, CALLED, THE WAY I HEARD IT, JOINS US LIVE RIGHT NOW. MIKE, YOU WERE TRAVELING, PROMOTING YOUR BRAND NEW BOOK. >> TERRIBLY BUSY. STEVE: ON HIS RADIO SHOW. >> NOT THAT BUSY. STEVE: BERNIE WANT AS 97% TAX RATE ON THE 400 RICHEST AMERICANS. HE HAS BIG PLANS WITH A BIG PRICE TAG. >> OKAY. YEAH, FREE COUNTRY, IDEAS, FLOAT THEM, FLY THEM, RUN UP THE OLD FLAGPOLE, SEE WHO SALUTES. IN THE END MILLIONAIRES ARGUING WITH MILLIONAIRES OVER WHO HATES THE MILLIONAIRES THE MOST. STEVE: RIGHT. >> I GUESS IT'S A CONVERSATION WE'LL HAVE BUT, I REMEMBER A COUPLE YEARS AGO I TOOK MY, MY MEAGER STAFF OVER TO THE REAGAN RANCH. IF YOU HAVEN'T BEEN -- STEVE: BEAUTIFUL. >> IT IS TERRIFIC, ONE OF THE STORIES THEY TELL IS THE TIME WHEN RONALD REAGAN JUST FINALLY DECIDED HE WAS DONE DOING MOVIES. HE WAS JUST DONE BECAUSE HE WAS PAYING 92% OF EVERY DOLLAR HE MADE ON FILMS. IT WAS JUST MATH. HE WASN'T DONE ACTING, IT WAS MATH. DID BASIC CALCULUS. MAKES NO SENSE TO DO THIS. AINSLEY: WEALTHIEST PEOPLE WILL SAY I'M NOT WORKING ANYMORE? >> I LIVE IN CALIFORNIA. I JUST READ A REPORT THAT SAID THE, THE EXODUS THIS YEAR AS A RESULT OF 13 1/2% STATE TAX AND SOME OTHER TWEAKS TO THE SYSTEM IS UNLIKE ANYTHING THEY HAVE EVER SEEN BEFORE. I KNOW ITS CONVENIENT. IT IS FUN TO HATE THE RICH AND ALL, IN THE END, THEY'RE JUST PEOPLE. THEY ARE GOING TO DO THE MATH, THEY WILL GO WHERE THE MATH IS BETTER. BRIAN: THIS IS WHAT I THOUGHT ABOUT YOU DURING THE DEBATE, GUARANTEED INCOME. TWO OR THREE CANDIDATES SAYING GET $1000, AUTOMATION IS HERE. YOU'RE NOT GETTING A JOB. GIVE PEOPLE $1000. >> WHY NOT MORE? BRIAN: YOU HANG OUT WITH PEOPLE THAT WORK FOR A LIVING, YOU FIND OUT ABOUT THEIR JOBS, DIRTY JOBS IS WHEN YOU REALLY EMERGED, WHEN YOU SEE PEOPLE GIVE MONEY AWAY, WHAT DOES IT DO TO THE SELF-ESTEEM WHEN YOU GET SOMETHING FOR FREE? >> YOU CAN'T IGNORE THE HUMAN CONDITION CONDITION. WE'RE FUNDAMENTALLY LAZY PEOPLE. WE HAVE TO BE TAUGHT, I THINK NOT TO BE LAZY. BRIAN: DON'T CALL AINSLEY THAT. I DON'T MIND IF YOU CALL ME THAT. >> I'M CALLING YOU FUNDAMENTAL. BRIAN: THAT IS WORSE. >> IF YOU GIVE ME A CHOICE, I DON'T SEE MYSELF AS LAZY, IF YOU GIVE ME A CHOICE OF THE EASY WAY OR THE HARD WAY. I CAN'T HELP IT, I WILL DEFAULT TO THE EASY WAY. STEVE: FREE MONEY? I WANT IT. >> MY ONLY CONCERN, NOT ONLY CONCERN, THAT KIND OF ARGUING WE DISCUSSED YESTERDAY AND JUST NOW. ONCE YOU SAY OKAY, FREE MONEY, THE NEXT QUESTION HAS TO BE, WHY NOT MORE? AND THAT'S THE BEEF WITH THE 5,000-DOLLAR SURGE IN THE MIDDLE CLASS RIGHT NOW. HOW DO YOU ARGUE AGAINST THAT? YOU SIMPLY SAY IT IS NOT BIG ENOUGH. WHY NOT 10. STEVE: INCOMES OF THE MIDDLE CLASS HAVE GONE UP $5,000 PER FAMILY DURING THE TRUMP YEARS. >> NOT ENOUGH, SORRY. AINSLEY: HOW WILL THAT FARE ELECTION TIME? THE ECONOMY IS GREAT, PEOPLE HAVE 5000 MORE EACH YEAR? >> IF I LEARNED ANYTHING FROM 2016, I DON'T KNOW AND, LOOKING AT POLLS TODAY, BUT YOU GUYS TELL ME, I FLICK AROUND ALL OVER THE PLACE AND I STILL SEE PEOPLE LOOKING AT POLLS SAYING BASED ON THE POLLS, DOT, DOT. STEVE: EVERY DAY. >> WHY WOULD ANYBODY LOOK AT ANY POLL ANYWHERE CONCLUDE ANYTHING EVER? BRIAN: I AGREE. ONE THING WILL HELP YOU, IF YOU GO BACK TO "DIRTY JOBS." TRADE DEALS BRING BACK MANUFACTURING TO THIS COUNTRY AND I DON'T THINK THE DEMOCRAT ARE PUSHING BACK. LET'S TALK ABOUT YOUR BOOK, I KNOW YOU DON'T WANT TO DISCUSS IT. THE BOOK IS NUMBER SIX ON AMAZON BUT YOU'RE NOT ABOUT NUMBERS. >> NO. WHY TRUST THE POLLS. CLEARLY IT IS NUMBER OF ONE. THIS IS FAKE NEWS. AINSLEY: WHAT IS IT ABOUT? >> THE BOOK IS, WELL, IT STARTED AS A COLLECTION OF STORIES I WRITE FOR MY PODCAST, WHICH IS CALLED THE WAY I HEARD IT. MY MOTHER READ THEM. THESE ARE VERY NICE, BUT A RATHER LAZY APPROACH TO WRITING DON'T YOU THINK, PUBLISHING SOMETHING YOU ALREADY READ. OKAY, I SAID SURE, IN BETWEEN A STORY ABOUT A FAMOUS PERSON I NEVER MET, I'M INTRIGUED BY, I TELL A STORY OF MY OWN MISSPENT YOUTH. THE BOOK GOES BETWEEN BIOGRAPHY AND AUTO BIOGRAPHY. MEMOIR INTERRUPTED BY FAMOUS PEOPLE I WISH I KNEW BETTER. BRIAN: ONE GREAT STORY ABOUT MEL BROOKS. >> THERE ARE MANY GREAT STORIES. BRIAN: ARE HAVE YOU SEEN TALK SHOWS BEFORE? >> SPOILER ALERT. BRIAN: I TOLD YOU THE END. I APOLOGIZE. >> HAVE YOU EVER SEEN A SHOW LIKE THIS? UNBELIEVABLE. STEVE: GOING BACK TO THE FUNDAMENTALS. >> LET'S MAKE IT FUNDAMENTAL, YOU REMEMBER PAUL HARVEY, THE REST OF THE STORY? I RIPPED OFF THAT IDEA, WITH PERMISSION FROM HIS SON. THE WAY I HEARD IT, IS MY VERSION OF PAUL HARVEY'S OLD RADIO SHOW. WHERE YOU LEARN ABOUT HISTORY AND YOU LEARN ABOUT BIOGRAPHY THROUGH MYSTERY. SO THAT'S THE, THAT'S THE SPINE OF THE BOOK. THOSE ARE THE TILES IN THE MOSAIC. STEVE: 35 MYSTERIES. >> 35 MYSTERIESES JUXTAPOSED GROWING UP WITH TWO OF THE MOST INTERESTING PEOPLE IN THE WORLD, WHICH WERE MY MOM AND DAD. BRIAN: ONE OF THE STORIES ENDS WITH MEL BROOKS. >> WOULD YOU STOP WITH THE MEL BROOKS? BRIAN: IT'S A GREAT STORY. >> HIS NAME WAS CORPORAL KAMINSKY, DURING SECOND WORLD WAR, DURING THE CLIMBED A UTILITY POLL, CHANGING THE PROPAGANDA PLAYED BY THE GERMANS TO AL JOLSON'S TOOT CITY. IT WAS UNOF THE GREAT THINGS ABOUT THE WAR AND IT FRAMED HIS CAREER. THINK ABOUT SPRINGTIME FOR HITLER AND ALL THOSE CRAZY THINGS, DURING THE BATTLE OF BULGE HE PLAYED A GREAT JEWISH SONG TO A FOREST FILLED WITH NAZIS, IF THAT SOUNDS INTERESTING, I DON'T KNOW WHICH
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