HARRIS?

>> Harris: JENNIFER GRIFFIN AT

THE PENTAGON, THANK YOU VERY

MUCH.

I WILL BRING IN ROB O'NEILL, THE

RETIRED NAVY SEAL WHO WE KNOW

WORLDWIDE AS THE MAN WHO KILLED

USAMA BIN LADEN, AND AUTHOR OF

"THE OPERATOR."

YOU TELL ME STILL WHEN YOU HEAR

THAT WHEN IT FEELS A LITTLE OUT

OF BODY FOR YOU.

>> WAS ALMOST TO THE POINT WHERE

I KNOW WHAT HAPPENED BUT THERE'S

NO WAY IT HAPPENED.

THAT'S ONE OF THE THINGS --

>> Harris: WE ARE GRATEFUL TO

YOU AS A NATION.

LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS

CONVERSATION THAT IS GOING ON

VERY PUBLICLY.

MY ONE CRITICISM HAS BEEN IF WE

ARE GOING TO HAVE THESE

CONVERSATIONS, GOOD LORD, CAN WE

DO THEM IN PRIVATE SO OUR ENEMY

DOESN'T SEE US GRAPPLING OVER

THINGS WITH OUR MILITARY?

I WANT TO FIRST GET YOUR

THOUGHTS ON THE FIRST REACTION

TO WHAT HAS PLAYED OUT.

>> WE HAVE THE FORMER

SECRETARY OF THE NAVY

COMPLAINING ABOUT A LACK OF

CHAIN OF COMMAND, WHEN HE IS

GOING BEHIND HIS BOSS'S BACK IT

-- BEING THE SECRETARY OF

DEFENSE -- TO GO WHITE AND DON

MIGRATE TO THE MIGHT OF THE

METAL HE HAS NO BUSINESS DOING.

WITH THE PRESIDENT PARDONING

EDDIE GALLAGHER'S ARMY STICKING

RESPONSE WILL BE OFF OF THAT

AFFIRMATIVE DEFENSE, SAYING,

"THIS IS THE END, THAT'S HOW IT

SHOULD END."

IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN THAT WAY.

SO MANY PEOPLE ARE INVOLVED IN

THIS FOR PERSONAL GAIN.

EVERYONE FROM THE PROSECUTOR

SENT TO THE NCIS IS TRYING TO

GET GALLAGHER IN PRISON.

I DON'T KNOW HOW THIS GOT SO BIG

IN THE FIRST PLACE.

>> Harris: I WANT TO GET A

REACTION TO A COUPLE OF ITEMS.

REMOVE US CRITICIZED THE

PRESIDENT AND FOR GETTING

INVOLVED IN THE CASE, SAYING

NONE OF THIS WOULD HAVE HAPPENED

IF THE PRESIDENT STAYED OUT OF

IT.

WATCH.

>> IF THIS PRESIDENT HAD NOT

COMPLETELY INAPPROPRIATELY,

WILDLY INAPPROPRIATELY, INSERTED

HIMSELF INTO THIS CASE, NONE OF

THIS WITH A BE HAPPENING.

THIS IS A DIRECT RESULT OF HIM

REACHING DOWN, THROWING THE

MILITARY JUSTICE SYSTEM OUT THE

WINDOW, THROWING RESPONSIBILITY

AND ACCOUNTABILITY OUT THE

WINDOW, AND FUNDAMENTALLY

DISRESPECTING AND DISHONORING

THE SEALS AND ALL OUR TROOPS.

>> Harris: ROB, WHAT DO YOU

SAY?

>> IT'S ODD THAT SECRETARY MAY

BEST DOESN'T REALIZED THE TOP OF

THE CHAIN OF COMMAND IS THE

COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF,

PRESIDENT TRUMP.

HE CAN DO WHAT HE WANTS.

IF YOU WANT TO INSERT HIMSELF,

HE CAN DO THIS.

IT'S WILDLY INAPPROPRIATE FOR A

LOT OF THESE HIGH-RANKING

CIVILIANS IN CERTAIN SPOTS IN

THE PENTAGON JUST -- IT'S ALMOST

LIKE THEY ARE #Resist PEOPLE.

I DON'T UNDERSTAND.

IT MAKES US A LAUGHINGSTOCK.

NOT JUST TO OUR ENEMIES BUT OUR

ADVERSARIES.

PEOPLE ARE WATCHING THIS

RIDICULOUS STUFF GOING ON.

IT'S UNNECESSARY.

>> Harris: SECOND ITEM I WANT

TO GET YOUR RESPONSE ON,

POLITICO TODAY REPORTING THAT

THE PRESIDENT'S STRAIN INSIDE

THE PENTAGON INSPIRES THE TALK

POTENTIALLY MORE DEPARTURES.

HERE'S A QUOTE.

"A HANDFUL OF THE PENTAGON'S

HIGHEST RANKING OFFICIALS HAVE

BEEN DEBATING JUST WHEN THEY

WOULD FEEL COMPELLED TO RESIGN

OVER WHAT THEY SEE AS TRUMPS

REGARD FOR THE CHAIN OF

COMMAND."

YOUR REACTION?

>> FIRE THEM.

GOOD.

WE NEED THIS.

IF YOU WANT TO USE A WAR, GET

LAWYERS, POLITICIANS, AND

FOUR-STAR GENERAL INVOLVED.

IT'S ALL POLITICS.

FIRE THE PERSON SAYING THAT AND

FIRE THEIR BOSS FOR NOT KEEPING

PEOPLE IN LINE.

>> Harris: IT'S INTERESTING

WHAT YOU SAY.

SOME OF THE CRITICISM ABOUT THE

PRESIDENT GETTING INVOLVED, ROB,

HAS BEEN THAT HE IS MAKING THIS

ABOUT POLITICS.

WHAT YOU ARE SAYING IS THAT

MAYBE POLITICS WERE ALREADY

THERE?

>> THE POLITICS OF THE PROBLEM.

AGAIN, A LOT OF GREAT CIVILIANS

AND GET OFFICERS.

I'M NOT TRYING TO SAY FIRE ALL

OF THEM.

WHAT I'M SAYING IS THEY INSERT

THEMSELVES TO THE POINT --

WHAT'S IMPORTANT IS WHEN IT GETS

THE LEVEL OF WHAT U.S.

GRAMMARIAN STRING A CORNER,

DAYLIGHT IN FALLUJA, HE HAS HALF

A SECOND TO MAKE A

LIFE-AND-DEATH DECISION ON WHO

IS GOING TO SHOOT.

HE'S WONDERING, "WELL I GO TO

JAIL IF I SHOOT THIS BACK

ARGUMENT" IT'S A LOT OF THE

SWAMP, TO BE HONEST.

A LOT OF THE BUREAUCRATS IN D.C.

>> Harris: WE WANT TO GET TO

SYRIA, WHERE HE REENGAGED HERE.

AS A FORMER NAVY SEAL, HOW DO

YOU LOOK AT THIS IS WHETHER

GALLAGHER SHOULD KEEP HIS

TRIDENT?

IT'S DIFFICULT.

>> WHERE HE KEEPS IT DOESN'T

MATTER.

I WOULD EVEN SAY ON TWITTER THAT

I WILL GIVE HIM MINE, HIS LEGACY

WILL GO DOWN AS IT IS PRETTY

WILL BE NAVY SEAL CHIEF

GALLAGHER FOREVER.

HE'S RETIRING VERY SOON.

BECOME A CENTRAL BATTLE THE

WHITE HOUSE, FROM ADMIRAL GREEN.

BECAUSE I JUST CAN'T, FOR SOME

REASON, EXCEPT WHAT'S GOING ON

IN WASHINGTON.

IT'S MIND-BOGGLING TO ME.

WE SHOULD BE CONCENTRATING ON

THE REMAINDER OF ISIS, WHAT

AL QAEDA IS DOING, WHAT'S GOING

ON, ALL THE NONSENSE IN THE

SWAMP.

>> Harris: YOU BRING UP A GOOD

POINT.

LET'S DO THAT.

THE U.S.-LED COALITION HAS

ANNOUNCED IT IS RESUMING

LARGE-SCALE OPERATIONS AGAINST

ISIS, AS YOU WERE JUST TALKING

ABOUT, AND WAS IN SYRIA.

NEARLY TWO MONTHS AFTER THE

PRESIDENT ORDERED TO WITHDRAW

TROOPS FROM THE REGION.

MY BIG QUESTION TODAY, THE

PRESIDENT SAID WE HAD DEFEATED

ISIS.

WHAT IS HAPPENING?

HAS SOMETHING CHANGED?

>> WE WERE GOING TO WITHDRAW

2,000 TROOPS FROM SYRIA, WENT

BACK TO ABOUT 1,000 TROOPS.

WE STILL HAVE 500 TROOPS EAST OF

THE EUPHRATES.

>> Harris: CAN THEY GET THE

JOB DONE?

DOES NOT IMPERIL THEM MORE?

>> WE HAVE TROOPS IN IRAQ,

PEOPLE WHO CAN DO IT.

WE HAVE TO AVOID -- WHAT WE DO

IS WE HAVE A TENDENCY TO

HOMESTEAD AND MAKE HUGE PIECES.

WE CALL IT THE SELF LICKING

ICE-CREAM CONE, IS THERE TO

SUPPORT ITSELF.

>> Harris: CAN WE CONTAIN A

GROUP OF ENEMIES THAT HAS

METASTASIZE IN 14 COUNTRIES

PREVIOUS TO THIS?

>> WE CAN, BUT IT'LL BE LIKE

NAILING JELL-O TO A WALL.

IF WE KEEP A BIG FORCE IN SYRIA

THEY WILL MOVE TO EGYPT.

THEY WILL MOVE TO SOMALIA, TO

YEMEN.

THEY WILL BE THERE.

>> Harris: WE WERE SUPPOSED TO

PROTECT THE OIL FIELDS THERE.

>> THAT'S TO KEEP FROM FUNDING

BASHAR AL-ASSAD'S REGIME AND

IRAN PAID THIS IS COMPLEX.

I COULD SPEND THE WHOLE HOUR

DISCUSSING BEST.

[LAUGHS]

>> Harris: YOU KNOW I WOULD

LIKE THAT, BECAUSE MILITARY IS

MY JAM!

>> TRYING TO KEEP TURKEY,

SEPARATE THE WEDGE BETWEEN NATO.

IT'S A VERY BUSY PLACE.

WE SHOULD BE ABLE TO PAY

ATTENTION TO STUFF LIKE THAT

INSTEAD OF WHAT WE DOING IN

WASHINGTON.

>> Harris:

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