Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles PUBLIC. CLEARLY SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE CLEARLY SOME CHANGES NEED TO BE MADE. MADE. >> DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS >> DEMOCRATS AND REPUBLICANS TOOK A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO TOOK A DIFFERENT APPROACH TO THIS HEARING TODAY. THIS HEARING TODAY. CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW BOTH SIDES CAN YOU EXPLAIN HOW BOTH SIDES HANDLED IT? HANDLED IT? >> REPUBLICANS, STARTING WITH >> REPUBLICANS, STARTING WITH LINDSEY GRAHAM, USED THIS IG LINDSEY GRAHAM, USED THIS IG REPORT TO TAINT THE ENTIRE REPORT TO TAINT THE ENTIRE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION AND THEY RUSSIA INVESTIGATION AND THEY DREW IN THESE INFLAMMATORY TEXTS DREW IN THESE INFLAMMATORY TEXTS FROM FBI AGENCIES PETER STRZOK FROM FBI AGENCIES PETER STRZOK AND LISA PAGE WHO WERE HAVING AN AND LISA PAGE WHO WERE HAVING AN AFFAIR AND HE MUDDIED THE WATER AFFAIR AND HE MUDDIED THE WATER AND SUGGESTED THESE PROBLEMS AND SUGGESTED THESE PROBLEMS WITH THE PAGE FISA TAINTED THE WITH THE PAGE FISA TAINTED THE WHOLE INVESTIGATION WHERE AS WHOLE INVESTIGATION WHERE AS HOROWITZ WAS VERY CLEAR, THAT'S HOROWITZ WAS VERY CLEAR, THAT'S NOT THE CASE. NOT THE CASE. THESE ARE TWO DISCREET ISSUES. THESE ARE TWO DISCREET ISSUES. THE INVESTIGATION WAS LEGITIMATE THE INVESTIGATION WAS LEGITIMATE AND WAS JUSTIFIED HE FOUND AND AND WAS JUSTIFIED HE FOUND AND THE FBI FOLLOWED THE RULES. THE FBI FOLLOWED THE RULES. HE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW HE HAD SOME CONCERNS ABOUT HOW THEY USED INFORMANTS. THEY USED INFORMANTS. DEMOCRATS SOUGHT TO DRAW THAT DEMOCRATS SOUGHT TO DRAW THAT ASPECT OUT OF IT AND THEY ASPECT OUT OF IT AND THEY POINTED OUT THAT HOROWITZ HAD NO POINTED OUT THAT HOROWITZ HAD NO QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS ABOUT THE QUESTIONS OR PROBLEMS ABOUT THE CONCLUSIONS OF THE ROBERT CONCLUSIONS OF THE ROBERT MUELLER SPECIAL COUNSEL MUELLER SPECIAL COUNSEL INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. HE WASN'T QUESTIONING WHETHER HE WASN'T QUESTIONING WHETHER RUSSIA INTERFERED AND HE WASN'T RUSSIA INTERFERED AND HE WASN'T SUPPORTING THE MORE INFLAMMATORY SUPPORTING THE MORE INFLAMMATORY THINGS THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS THINGS THAT DONALD TRUMP WAS SAYING IN TERMS OF THIS IS A SAYING IN TERMS OF THIS IS A DEEP-STATE CONSPIRACY, THE WORD DEEP-STATE CONSPIRACY, THE WORD SCUM WAS USED, DISAVOWED THAT SCUM WAS USED, DISAVOWED THAT KIND OF LANGUAGE AND IT WAS KIND OF LANGUAGE AND IT WAS ABSOLUTELY PARTISAN FOOD FIGHT ABSOLUTELY PARTISAN FOOD FIGHT OUT THERE WITH MOST SIDES SEEING OUT THERE WITH MOST SIDES SEEING IT A DIFFERENT WAY. IT A DIFFERENT WAY. >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, WHY IS >> LET ME ASK YOU THIS, WHY IS IT SO VERY IMPORTANT TO THE IT SO VERY IMPORTANT TO THE REPUBLICANS TO PROVE A POLITICAL REPUBLICANS TO PROVE A POLITICAL BIAS TO TRUMP AND THE RUSSIA BIAS TO TRUMP AND THE RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. WHY IS THIS STILL SO IMPORTANT? WHY IS THIS STILL SO IMPORTANT? >> WHAT I FIND AND I SEE IT ON >> WHAT I FIND AND I SEE IT ON MY SOCIAL MEDIA FEED, THERE'S AN MY SOCIAL MEDIA FEED, THERE'S AN OUTRAGE IN THE LAND, ON THE OUTRAGE IN THE LAND, ON THE RIGHT, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE. RIGHT, ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED HERE. MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THE MANY PEOPLE BELIEVE THAT THE MECHANISMS OF GOVERNMENT, MECHANISMS OF GOVERNMENT, INCLUDING THIS POWERFUL SECRET INCLUDING THIS POWERFUL SECRET SURVEILLANCE WAS USED SURVEILLANCE WAS USED INAPPROPRIATELY AGAINST DONALD INAPPROPRIATELY AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. TRUMP. THAT THIS WAS A DEEP-STATE THAT THIS WAS A DEEP-STATE CONSPIRACY TO TWIST THE CONSPIRACY TO TWIST THE GOVERNMENT AND THE FBI INTO GOVERNMENT AND THE FBI INTO INVESTIGATING AND SOME SENATORS INVESTIGATING AND SOME SENATORS ACTUALLY SAID THAT TODAY. ACTUALLY SAID THAT TODAY. THEY SUGGESTED THAT THE DNC GOT THEY SUGGESTED THAT THE DNC GOT THE FBI TO DO THIS. THE FBI TO DO THIS. AND SO THAT IS THE PASSION THEY AND SO THAT IS THE PASSION THEY BRING TO THIS ISSUE. BRING TO THIS ISSUE. THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY EVIDENCE THERE REALLY ISN'T ANY EVIDENCE FOR THAT AND THE LATEST REPORT FOR THAT AND THE LATEST REPORT TO FIND NO EVIDENCE OF POLITICAL TO FIND NO EVIDENCE OF POLITICAL BIASSED ON THIS INVESTIGATION. BIASSED ON THIS INVESTIGATION. >> KEN, SOMETHING WENT ON TODAY >> KEN, SOMETHING WENT ON TODAY THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING SO OFTEN. THAT WE'VE BEEN SEEING SO OFTEN. A NAME BECOMES A HOUSEHOLD NAME, A NAME BECOMES A HOUSEHOLD NAME, MICHAEL HOROWITZ, FOR EXAMPLE, A MICHAEL HOROWITZ, FOR EXAMPLE, A LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE LOT OF PEOPLE DIDN'T KNOW WHO HE WAS UNTIL TODAY. WAS UNTIL TODAY. WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT HIM? WHAT CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT HIM? >> HE'S A FORMER PROSECUTOR. >> HE'S A FORMER PROSECUTOR. HE'S A STRAIGHT SHOOTER. HE'S A STRAIGHT SHOOTER. HE'S WORKED FOR PRESIDENTS IN HE'S WORKED FOR PRESIDENTS IN BOTH PARTIES. BOTH PARTIES. HE WAS APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT HE WAS APPOINTED BY PRESIDENT OBAMA AND HE'S DONE SOME TOUGH OBAMA AND HE'S DONE SOME TOUGH INVESTIGATIONS. INVESTIGATIONS. WE DID A STORY ABOUT HOW WE DID A STORY ABOUT HOW DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN COMPLAINING THAT HE REALLY HASN'T TAKEN ON THAT HE REALLY HASN'T TAKEN ON TRUMP APPOINTEES, JEFF SESSIONS TRUMP APPOINTEES, JEFF SESSIONS OR ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR. OR ATTORNEY GENERAL BARR. HE POINTED OUT TODAY THAT HE'S HE POINTED OUT TODAY THAT HE'S THE ONLY INSPECTOR GENERAL WHO THE ONLY INSPECTOR GENERAL WHO HAS THIS KIND OF RULE THAT HAS THIS KIND OF RULE THAT PROHIBITS HIM FROM INVESTIGATING PROHIBITS HIM FROM INVESTIGATING THE CONDUCT OF ATTORNEYS. THE CONDUCT OF ATTORNEYS. AND HE WAS ASKING SENATORS TO AND HE WAS ASKING SENATORS TO CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW HIM TO CHANGE THE LAW TO ALLOW HIM TO INVESTIGATE. INVESTIGATE. THERE'S THIS COMPLAINT ABOUT HIM THERE'S THIS COMPLAINT ABOUT HIM THAT HE HAS NOT TAKEN ON THE THAT HE HAS NOT TAKEN ON THE TOUGH FIGHTS WITH DONALD TRUMP TOUGH FIGHTS WITH DONALD TRUMP AND TRUMP APPOINTEES, ALLISON. AND TRUMP APPOINTEES, ALLISON. >> HE DID SAY TODAY THAT THIS >> HE DID SAY TODAY THAT THIS REPORT DOESN'T VINDICATE REPORT DOESN'T VINDICATE ANYBODY. ANYBODY. SO WHAT SHOULD WE TAKE AWAY FROM SO WHAT SHOULD WE TAKE AWAY FROM THIS HEARING? THIS HEARING? >> WELL, ONE, THAT THERE ARE >> WELL, ONE, THAT THERE ARE SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE FBI'S SERIOUS PROBLEMS WITH THE FBI'S FISA PROCESS OF GETTING THESE FISA PROCESS OF GETTING THESE NATIONAL SECURITY WARRANTS, NATIONAL SECURITY WARRANTS, ABSOLUTELY. ABSOLUTELY. BUT SECONDLY, THERE REMAINS NO BUT SECONDLY, THERE REMAINS NO EVIDENCE OF POLITICAL BIAS IN EVIDENCE OF POLITICAL BIAS IN THE OPENING OF THIS RUSSIA THE OPENING OF THIS RUSSIA INVESTIGATION. INVESTIGATION. IT WAS LEGITIMATE. IT WAS LEGITIMATE. THEY WERE CONCERNED AND THEY THEY WERE CONCERNED AND THEY FOUND N CASE FOR CRIMINAL FOUND N CASE FOR CRIMINAL CONSPIRACY BETWEEN THE TRUMP CONSPIRACY BETWEEN THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA AND ALL CAMPAIGN AND RUSSIA AND ALL AMERICANS SHOULD BE GLAD ABOUT AMERICANS SHOULD BE GLAD ABOUT THAT, THAT'S THE TAKEAWAY, IN MY THAT, THAT'S THE TAKEAWAY, IN MY VIEW, ALLISON. VIEW, ALLISON. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH. >> YOU BET, THANKS. >> YOU BET, THANKS. >>> TODAY SENATE HEARING GAVE >>> TODAY SENATE HEARING GAVE REPUBLICANS A CHANCE TO SEIZE ON REPUBLICANS A CHANCE TO SEIZE ON DIFFERENT ASPECTS ON TYPICAL DIFFERENT ASPECTS ON TYPICAL FINDINGS BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP FINDINGS BUT PRESIDENT TRUMP HASN'T SAID MUCH ABOUT THE HASN'T SAID MUCH ABOUT THE REPORT OR THE HEARING TODAY. REPORT OR THE HEARING TODAY. NBC'S KELLY O'DONNELL IS AT THE NBC'S KELLY O'DONNELL IS AT THE WHITE HOUSE AND, KELLY, HAS THE WHITE HOUSE AND, KELLY, HAS THE PRESIDENT WEIGHED IN AT ALL ON PRESIDENT WEIGHED IN AT ALL ON TODAY'S TESTIMONY? TODAY'S TESTIMONY? >> JUST A LITTLE ON TWITTER >> JUST A LITTLE ON TWITTER WHERE HE SAYS HIS CAMPAIGN WAS WHERE HE SAYS HIS CAMPAIGN WAS SPIED UPON. SPIED UPON. BUT LARGELY, LEAVING THE LANE BUT LARGELY, LEAVING THE LANE OPEN FOR HIS REPUBLICAN ALLIES OPEN FOR HIS REPUBLICAN ALLIES ON CAPITOL HILL WHO HAVE BEEN ON CAPITOL HILL WHO HAVE BEEN GOING THROUGH THE REPORT AND GOING THROUGH THE REPORT AND DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO TRY TO DIFFERENT ASPECTS TO TRY TO BRING TO LIGHT THE ARGUMENTS BRING TO LIGHT THE ARGUMENTS THEY WISH TO MAKE ON THIS REPORT
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