Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles >> Martha: CONGRESSMAN DEVIN NUNES, RANKING MEMBER OF THE HOUSE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE. CONGRESSMAN, GOOD TO HAVE YOU WITH US TONIGHT AS WELL. WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT THOSE SWING DISTRICTS AND HOW THAT IS GOING TO GO IN 2020? >> WELL, I THINK ALL THOSE MEMBERS ARE IN A LOT OF TROUBLE. THE KEY IS TWO THE KEY IS DWO THE KEY IS DOO THE KEY IS DO REPUBLICANS HAVE GOOD CANDIDATES AND IN MANY OF THOSE DISTRICTS WE DO. FOR EXAMPLE, IN CALIFORNIA, WE HAVE FORMER MEMBER DAVID VALDEO FOUR POLLS UP BY DOUBLE DIGITS THAT WAS BEFORE IMPEACHMENT. WE HAVE A LOT OF THE GREAT DISTRICTS WE CAN WIN IN 2020. AND, YOU KNOW, THE PROBLEM THAT THEY HAVE WITH THIS IMPEACHMENT IS THAT THEY DID NOT RUN A FAIR PROCESS. SO, WHENEVER THEY SAY THEY ARE RUNNING A FAIR PROCESS. IT ACTUALLY MEANS THE OPPOSITE. WE HAVE SO MANY WITNESSES AND WE DIDN'T ASK FOR VERY MANY. WE ASKED FOR ABOUT 10 WITNESSES. THEY HAVE CALLED EXACTLY ZERO OF OUR WITNESSES IN. OKAY. SO, HOW DO YOU HAVE A FAIR TRIAL? HOW DO YOU RUN A REAL INVESTIGATION? YOU KNOW, FOR ALL THE NONSENSE THAT WE HAVE HEARD WITH THESE GUYS WHERE THEY 3406 FROM THE RUSSIA HOAX TO UKRAINE HOAX THAT THEN TURNED INTO THE IMPEACHMENT HOAX. REMEMBER, WE GAVE THEM DOZENS AND DODDS DOZENS OF AND DOZENS OF WITNESSES WHEN THEY WERE IN CONTROL TO TRY TO PROVE THE RUSSIA HOAX. NOW ALL THEY DID WAS LIE TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. >> Martha: VERY INTERESTING REPORT COMING OUT FROM THE FISA COURT. PUSHING BACK AGAINST THE FBI ESSENTIALLY SAYING DON'T TRY THIS AGAIN WITH US BECAUSE BY THE TIME IT GETS TO US, WE ARE ASSUMING WHAT YOU ARE PUTTING IN FRONT OF US IS REAL AND IS ACCURATE AND IS SUBSTANTIATED AND NOW THEY KNOW THAT THAT WAS NOT THE CASE AT ALL. THAT THEY WERE GIVEN THINGS THAT HAD HUGE HOLES IN THEM AND ASKED TO SIGN OFF ON THEM. >> YEAH. I'M GLAD TO SEE THE FIS COURT COME OUT AND MAKE A STATEMENT. YOUR VIEWERS NEED TO KNOW THAT THE FIS COURT IS ALSO CULPABLE IN THIS MADNESS, ALSO. >> Martha: HOW SO? >> I SAY THAT BECAUSE WE SENT THEM TWO LETTERS, VERY SPECIFIC LETTERS. SO THIS IS PROBABLY PEOPLE HEARING THIS FOR THE FIRST TIME. WE SENT ONE, I BELIEVE, IN FEBRUARY OF 2018, WARNING THEM OF VERY SERIOUS MATTERS, IT WAS BASED ON THE MEMO THAT WE HAD PUT FORWARD AT THAT TIME. THEY DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT. THEN AGAIN, WHEN WE FOUND OUT THAT SOURCE TWO, THE ONLY ADDITIONAL INFORMATION, OKAY, THAT WAS THERE, IT WAS ESSENTIALLY THE -- IT WAS THE DOSSIER. >> Martha: RIGHT. >> FAKE NEWS STORIES THAT THEY USED AND SOURCE TOO. WE ASSUMED WHEN WE WROTE THE ORIGINAL MEMO THAT SOURCE TWO WAS LEGITIMATE BUT LATER TREY GOWDY WHO YOU WILL HAVE ON IN A LITTLE BIT AND MYSELF AND JOHN RATCLIFFE AND OUR INVESTIGATIVE TEAM, WE BEGAN TO LOOK AT SOURCE 2. AND WE DISCOVERED NUMBER ONE THAT THEY HAD ACTUALLY BEGUN SPYING BEFORE THEY EVEN GOT THE WARRANT. BUT, NUMBER TWO, THEY LEFT ALL OF THIS EXCULPATORY EVIDENCE. THIS IS EVIDENCE THAT THEY SHOULD HAVE PUT FORWARD ON BOTH PAIGE AND PAPADOPOULOS. PAPADOPOULOS IS KEY BECAUSE HE IS THE REASONABLE THAT THEY STARTED THE ENTIRE INVESTIGATION. HE DENIED IT CLEARLY. SO, AT THAT POINT, WHEN YOU HAVE A FULL BLOWN CI INVESTIGATION GOING ON, YOU SHOULD DO SOMETHING. THE POINT HERE MARTHA IS THAT THE COURT KNEW ABOUT ALL OF THIS. SO, I'M NOT SAYING THAT I'M GLAD THEY HAVE ACTED. I'M GLAD THEY SAID SOMETHING, BUT I THINK THE COURT HAS TO BE ENDED. THIS IS NOT -- >> Martha: I WAS GOING TO ASK BECAUSE TOMORROW I'M GOING TO INTERVIEW THE ATTORNEY GENERAL. WILLIAM BARR. AND WE'RE GOING TO TALK ABOUT THIS. DO YOU BELIEVE THAT THE FIS COURT SHOULD BE ELIMINATED AS ANDREW NAPOLITANO -- THE JUDGE HAS ALSO ADVISED ON THIS SHOW. >> YEAH. WE NEED A PROCESS, OKAY. SO I'M NOT GOING TO SPEAK IN ABSOLUTES. BUT I WILL SAY THAT THE WAY THE COURTS CONDUCTED THEMSELVES IS TOTALLY INAPPROPRIATE. THEY IGNORED CLEAR EVIDENCE THAT WE PRESENTED TO THEM THAT, REMEMBER, THEY HAD THIS. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DIDN'T HAVE IT. WE HAD SEEN IT. THEY HAD IT. THEY DID ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT. SO, THEY HAVE LEFT REALLY CONGRESS NO CHOICE BUT TO HAVE TO STEP IN AND FIX THIS PROCESS. >> Martha: LET ME ASK YOU THIS, WERE THERE PARTICULAR JUDGES ON THE FIS COURT THAT YOU FEEL DID NOT TREAT THIS PROPERLY? >> WELL, LOOK, WHEN YOU HAVE THE EVIDENCE THAT WE PRESENT TO THEM AND THEY DO NOTHING ABOUT IT AND NOW THEY COME OUT AND I HAVE TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THE LETTER THAT THEY SENT OUT TODAY, THE STATEMENT THAT THEY SENT OUT, BECAUSE I'M NOT SO SURE THAT THEY ARE BEING ENTIRELY TRUTHFUL. I HAVE READ WHAT WE SENT THEM. I JUST READ IT A FEW HOURS AGO BACK IN THE SUMMER OF 2018, THEY HAD A LOT OF THIS INFORMATION THAT THEY CLAIM THEY JUST FOUND OUT ABOUT. I HAVE TO LOOK CLOSELY AT THE WORDING. >> Martha: VERY INTERESTING. WE WOULD LOVE FOR YOU TO COME BACK AND TALK ABOUT THAT SOME MORE WHEN YOU MAKE THAT COMPARISON BETWEEN WHAT THEY ARE SAYING AND WHAT YOU TOLD THEM AND MADE CLEAR TO THEM BACK THEN. I WANT TO ASK YOU ONE LAST QUESTION WITH REGARD TO UKRAINE. BECAUSE YOU TALKED ABOUT THE RUSSIA SITUATION AND UKRAINE. RUDY GIULIANI, THE PRESIDENT'S ATTORNEY, IS, YOU KNOW, HAS BEEN BACK IN UKRAINE. HE SAYS THAT HAS A LOT OF INFORMATION THAT WILL PROVE THAT THERE WAS, INDEED, A UKRAINE ELEMENT TO MEDDLING IN THE ELECTION. IN FACT, HE IS ARGUING, I BELIEVE, THAT IT WAS UKRAINE AND NOT RUSSIA. HE SAYS THAT HE NEEDED TO GET YANK GET YOVK GET YOVANOVITCH. OUT OF THE WAY BECAUSE SHE WAS APPROVING OF THE SITUATION THERE WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THAT. >> I HAVE NOT SEEN RUDY GIULIANI SAY RUSSIA DID MEDDLE IN DIDDLE IN DIDNLE IN DIDN'T IN DIDN'TMEN DIDN'TMEDDLE IN THIS ELECTION. IT'S CLEAR THAT RUSSIA HAS MEDDLE YOU HAD IN OUR ELECTION AND WILL CONTINUE TO MEDDLE IN OUR ELECTION AS WILL OTHER COUNTRIES. THE KEY POINT HERE IS THAT ABOUT UKRAINE. THERE WAS NO QUESTION THAT THE DEMOCRATS HAD PAID OPERATIVES THAT WERE GETTING INFORMATION OUT OF UKRAINE. YOU ONLY HAVE TO LOOK AT PAUL MANAFORT. PAUL MANAFORT WAS DIRTIED UP BY WHAT WAS LIKELY DISINFORMATION. NOW, LOOK, HE ENDED UP DOING OTHER THINGS WRONG, BUT THAT INITIALING DIRT THAT CAME FROM UKRAINE. WE ALSO KNOW THAT THE DOSSIER SOURCES, SOME OF THOSE SOURCES WERE IN UKRAINE. SO, THERE IS NO QUESTION -- I'M NOT SAYING THAT THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT HAD SOME NOT LIKE PUTIN WAS DOING, BUT, LOOK, THEY CLEARLY SIDED ON BEHALF OF THE CLINTON CAMPAIGN AND THEY HELPED TO DIRTY UP TRUMP. YOU HAD THE AMBASSADOR OF IRK IN THE UNITED UKK IN THE UNITED UKRAIN THE UNITED UKRAINETHE UNITED UKRAINE IE UNITED UKRAINE IN UNITED UKRAINE IN TNITED UKRAINE IN THETED UKRAINE IN THE UD UKRAINE IN THE UNITED STATES IN WASHINGTON, D.C. SAYING NEGATIVE THINGS ABOUT A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE. WHICH IS ALMOST UNHEARD OF. AS IT RELATES TO YOVANOVITCH, THE ISSUE THERE IS THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THERE THAT -- IN UKRAINE, THAT WANT VISAS TO COME TO THE UNITED STATES SO THEY CAN PRESENT EVIDENCE TO THE APPROPRIATE AUTHORITIES, WHETHER IT BE CONGRESS OR THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. AND THAT'S THE PROBLEM. AND THAT'S WHAT RUDY GIULIANI IS SAYING THAT THERE ARE PEOPLE THAT WANT TO GIVE US INFORMATION THAT CANNOT DO IT. >> Martha: OKAY.
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