Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles BUT WHAT STANDS IN THEIR POWER. YEARS AFTER THE 2016 ELECTION, FORMER OBAMA CIA CHIEF JOHN BRENNAN WAS UNAMBIGUOUS. INTERVIEW AFTER INTERVIEW, HE TOLD US THE STEELE DOSSIER PLAYED NO ROLE IN THE CIA'S INTELLIGENCE ASSESSMENT OF RUSSIAN INTERFERENCE IN THE 2016 ELECTION. BRENNAN BY THE WAY TOLD THIS UNDER OATH. THE IG REPORT INDICATES THAT HE WAS LYING. LYING. BY STATEMENTS THAT ATTRACTED THE INTEREST OF U.S. ATTORNEY JOHN DURHAM. JOHN KIRK WHO IS INTERESTED, HE'S A FORMER CIA OFFICER AND THE WHISTLE-BLOWER WHO WENT TO JAIL FOR DOING LESS THAN JOHN BRENNAN HAS DONE. THANK YOU FOR JOINING US. >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. >> Tucker: YOU SOMEONE WHOSE LIFE WAS TURNED THE BULLY UPSIDE DOWN, DESTROYED FOR A WHILE SEEN DOWN, DESTROYED FOR A WHILE SEEG DOWN, DESTROYED FOR A WHILE SEEA GUY LIKE BRENNAN COMMIT PERJURY IN PUBLIC AND NOBODY CARES, HOW DOES THAT MAKE YOU FEEL? >> THAT SEEMS TO BE WHAT WE ARE SEEING NOW. IF "THE NEW YORK TIMES" IS TO BE BELIEVED, JOHN BRENNAN WAS SAYING ONE THING ON CAPITOL HILL AND MSNBC WHERE HE IS A PAID TALKING HEAD AND ANOTHER THING INTERNALLY TO HIS OWN PEOPLE AND JIM COMEY, WHO WAS FBI DIRECTOR AT THE TIME. WE KNOW THAT JOHN DURHAM, THE U.S. ATTORNEY FOR THE STATE OF CONNECTICUT WHO IS DOING THIS INVESTIGATION HAS NOW ASKED FOR AND WILL RECEIVE CALL LOGS FROM JOHN BRENNAN, EMAILS FROM JOHN BRENNAN FROM THE TIME THAT HE WAS THE CIA DIRECTOR, AS WELL AS CONTEMPORANEOUS NOTES THAT BRENNAN TOOK WHEN HE WAS MEETING WITH THESE OTHER LEADERS. WE ARE LOOKING AT ONE OF THESE ARE MANY OF THESE PROCESS CRIMES, MAKING A FALSE STATEMENT, PERJURY, WHICH SEEMS TO BE WHAT JOHN DURHAM IS PICKING UP. A COUPLE OF WEEKS AGO, JOHN DURHAM SAID THAT HIS INVESTIGATION IS NOT AN INJURY. IT'S AN INVESTIGATION AND IT'S A CRIMINAL ONE. >> Tucker: BRENNAN WOULD'VE HAVE TO KNOW THIS, CORRECT? HE WAS AT THE CENTER OF THIS BEER FOR HIM TO SAY CONFIDENTLY THE STEELE DOSSIER PLAYED NO ROLE IN THE FAISAL LAWRENCE, BUT COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU THAT HE K COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU THAT HE O COMMON SENSE TELLS YOU THAT HE S THIS TO BE UNTRUE AND HE SAID IT. >> ABSOLUTELY, JUST LIKE HE KNOWS THAT THERE WAS NO BUT HE WASN'T HONEST ABOUT THAT AND NEITHER WAS JIM COMEY. WE KNOW HE LIED TO THE FISA COURT, WE KNOW THEY LIED MULTIPLE TIMES TO THE FISA COURT TO GET WARRANTS AGAINST CARTER PAGE. I THINK AT THAT LEVEL, WITH EVERYTHING BEING CLASSIFIED AND WITH THEIR ARROGANCE AT THE SAME TIME, I THINK THEY THINK THEY CAN JUST GET AWAY WITH IT. THE TRUTH ISN'T GOING TO COME OUT IN THE END. IT LOOKS LIKE IT WILL COME OUT. THE ONE I WANT THEM BECAUSE I LOVE THE COUNTRY AND I WANT TO BELIEVE IN OUR JUSTICE SYSTEM. YOU SEE ROGER STONE IN EFFECT FACING LIFE IN PRISON. YOU SEE THE WHISTLE-BLOWER VENERATED AS A CHRIST FIGURE. YOU ARE A LEGITIMATE WHISTLE-BLOWER AND YOU GO TO JAIL. YOU GOT TO WONDER IS THIS ON THE LEVEL? >> I WAS TALKING THIS WITH MY CHILDREN THE OTHER DAY AND THEY ASK ESSENTIALLY THE SAME QUESTION FOR THEY SAY, WHEN I WAS GROWING UP, I ALWAYS ASSUMED ADULTS WERE SMARTER THAN KIDS AND ADULTS WERE FAIR BECAUSE THERE WERE ADULTS, WE ALL COME TO REALIZE IT. THAT'S SIMPLY NOT TRUE. PEOPLE HAVE POLITICAL AXES TO GRIND. SOMETIMES KARMA IS A REAL THING AND SOMETIMES THERE IS JUSTICE IN THE END. >> Tucker: I HAVE NO INSIDE
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