IN FACT QUITE THE OPPOSITE.

>> Ed: I WAS DEPRESSED ABOUT

THE COVERAGE OF THE DEBUG

DOSSIER AND SHE

CLAIMED IT WAS NOT A GRIEVOUS

AND EITHER WAY, MY NEXT GUEST

SAYS ALL OF US IS

DOING DAMAGE AND PROGRESSIVE

COST AND ON.

SENIOR FELLOW, JOINING ME LIVE,

VICTOR, GETTING TO THE

MITCH McCONNELL SITUATION AND

COMING TO RACHEL MADDOW, SHE

PUSHED THE ANTI-TRUMP DOSSIER

AND IT TURNED OUT TO BE HERE.

>> WELL, THE PLAYWRIGHT ONCE

POSED THE QUESTION WHAT IS

WISDOM AND CAME ON THE SIDE OF

PRAGMATISM AND ORDINARY PEOPLE

SUPERIOR INTELLECT TO THE

INTELLECT CLASSES AND THE ALL

CYCLE OF DRAMA IS PITTED THE

ELITE AGAINST COMMON PEOPLE IN

THE CASE OF THE SCHOLAR RACHEL

MADDOW WHEN SHE WAS REASSURING

AMERICA THAT IT WAS CORRECT, YOU

CAN GO ON AND LISTEN TO THEM

WITH SEAN HANNITY WITHOUT

SOPHISTICATED AGREEMENTS THAT

WERE PRACTICAL, PRAGMATIC, AND

POINTED OUT THE CHAPTER REVIEWS

HOW IT CANNOT BE TRUE.

IF

SAME THING, HE WAS A FARMER,

TURNED OUT THAT HORROR WEST WAS

BASICALLY SUBSTANTIATED

EVERYTHING IN THE HARVARD LAW

GRADUATE.

IT WAS DISINGENUOUS.

WE GOT TO THEM SMALLER

INVESTIGATION, WE WERE TOLD IT'S

A DREAM TEAM, ALL STARS IN THE

IVY LEAGUE AND THERE PITTED

AGAINST THE SWORD

AGAINST THE LEE SORT OF PEOPLE

WE JUST MELT BEFORE THE

IVY LEAGUE FIREPOWER.

I THINK IT'S A REMINDER ABOUT

THE SYMBOLIC LESSONS FROM THE

2016 ELECTION THAT THIS COUNTRY

HAS TO TAKE A DEEP LOOK AND

WHO'S HONEST AND WHOSE VIRTUOUS

AND IT'S NOT SYNONYMOUS WITH ALL

THESE PEOPLE.

THE STAR-STUDDED RESUME.

AGAIN AND AGAIN, IN THE CASE OF

RACHEL MADDOW.

>> Ed: SHE'S NOT THE ONLY ONE

IN THE MEDIA, A WHOLE BUNCH OF

PEOPLE MADE SURE THEY WERE

PUSHING THE DOSSIER AGAIN AND

AGAIN AND IT SOMEHOW

CORROBORATED AT LEAST PIECES OF

IT.

YOU'RE LEARNING LESSONS FROM

2016, HAS ANYBODY IN THE MEDIA

LEARNED ANY?

>> I DON'T THINK SO, I THINK

THEY FEEL AND WE SEE THAT WITH

THE SURVEY THAT 90% OF THE

MAINSTREAM MEDIA COVERAGE HAS

BEEN BIASED AND THEY FEEL THAT

DONALD TRUMP POSES A EXISTENTIAL

THREAT TO THE ENTIRE PROGRESSIVE DONALD TRUMP POSES A EXISTENTIAL

THREAT TO THE ENTIRE PROGRESSIVE

AGENDA AND THEREFORE ANY MEANS

NECESSARY AND JUSTIFIED WITH

THAT NOBLE AND OF REMOVING HIM.

OF I THINK THEY THOUGHT THEY

WERE GOING TO BLEED HIM WITH A

THOUSAND CUTS BUT AFTER THE

CLAUSE, THE LOGAN ACT, THE 25TH

AMENDMENTS, ROBERT MUELLER'S

EMBARRASSING TESTIMONY, UKRAINE

FRAME, AND ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE

TURNED OFF AND THERE TURNED OFF. FRAME, AND ESPECIALLY THE PEOPLE

TURNED OFF AND THERE TURNED OFF.

IT'S NOT DRAMATIC, IT'S NOT --

YOU KNOW, CLIMACTIC, BUT WERE

SEEING, HE COULD TO MENTALLY AND

TRUMPS BULLS ARE GOING UP AND

SUPPORT

FOR IMPEACHMENT IS GOING DOWN.

THAT'S GRINNING A LOT OF

FRUSTRATION AND DEMOCRATS NOW

IT'S A SORT OF DAMOCLES HANGING

OVER TRUMPS IMPEACHMENT AND

EVERY ONCE IN A WHILE, THROWING

SOMETHING IN AND SCORING A

LITTLE BIT LOWER.

THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO RIGHT

NOW FOR THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AND

THEY'RE NOT WITH THEM.

IF THEY DID NOT HAVE THE SPECIAL

COUNSEL REPORT, THEY DID NOT

HAVE BIPARTISAN SUPPORT, THEY DD

NOT HAVE'S PUBLIC SUPPORT AND

THEY DID NOT HAVE SPECIFIC

CRIMES OUTLINING THE

CONSTITUTION.

IT WAS NOT LIKE THE NIXON

IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.

PEOPLE CAUGHT ONTO THAT.

>> Ed: TAKE THAT POINT TO

MITCH McCONNELL, THE SENATE

IMPEACHMENT TRIAL NOW.

WE ARE SEEING IT, AS I SAID AT

THE TOP, THERE COULD BE

LEGITIMATE QUESTIONS, WHERE ARE

THE LIES FOR THE SENATE MAJORITY

LEADER THE WHITE HOUSE.

TO THEM SUGGESTING THEM LEADING

A KLANSMAN TRIAL, ARE DEMOCRATS

MAKING THIS A MISTAKE YOUR?

>> I THINK WHAT'S HAPPENING IS

THE ENTIRE IMPEACHMENT PROCESS

IS STARTING TO MIRROR IMAGE OF

THE CANDIDATES ON THE DEMOCRATIC

STAGE AND CALLING FOR THE NEW

GREEN DEAL WITH THE WEALTH TAX

OR THE OPEN BORDERS.

IF THEY ARE OUT OF SYNC WITH THE

AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEY ARE NOT IF THEY ARE OUT OF SYNC WITH THE

AWARE OF HOW RIDICULOUS IT SOUND

AMERICAN PEOPLE AND THEY ARE NOT

AWARE OF HOW RIDICULOUS IT SOUN.

THIS WHOLE CYCLE, THE LATEST

CYCLE OF IMPEACHMENT STARTING IN

THE WHISTLE-BLOWER DID NOT GO

FIRST FOR THE INSTRUCTOR

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIF

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIA

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHID

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIT

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIE

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIN

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIL

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIE

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHID

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIA

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIO

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIT

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHII

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIT

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAF

GENERAL, THEY WENT TO ADAM SCHIT

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAT

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAA

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAT

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAG

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAE

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAS

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAT

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAO

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAW

AND THEY COOKED UP WITH THE STAE

WE ARE.

REMEMBER, THEY'RE GOING TO TALK

ABOUT CONFLICT OF INTEREST,

GLOBAL CHART, ELIZABETH WARREN,

BERNIE SANDERS WERE GOING TO BE

SITTING IN JUDGMENT ON

DONALD TRUMP WHO IS GOING TO BE

PROBABLY THE REPUBLICAN NOMINEE

AND ONE OF THEM THINKS THERE

COULD BE RUNNING AGAINST THEM.

THIS IS WHAT POLITICS IS ALL

ABOUT AND THERE ON THE LOSING

END AND THE LOSING END OF PUBLIC

SUPPORT AND I CAN UNDERSTAND.

>> Ed: VICTOR, THEN PLAY THIS

OUT WITH NANCY PELOSI THEN.

IF SOMEBODY WE HAVEN'T MENTIONED

YET.

WHY IN THE WORLD IS SHE HOLDING

ONTO THE ARTICLES?

WHY IS SHE NOT CUTTING BAIT AS

YOU SAY, DEMOCRATS ARE LOSING

THE BATTLE.

>> BECAUSE SHE WAS REASSURED OF

EVERY STRETCH, EVERY STEP OF THE

PROCESS BY THE LEFT-WING BASE OF EVERY STRETCH, EVERY STEP OF THE

PROCESS BY THE LEFT-WING BASE OF

THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY AND THAT'S

THOSE MISNOMER BECAUSE THE

ENTIRE PARTY IS LEFT-WING NOW.

IF SOMETHING WERE TO COME UP, WE

WOULD HAVE THE RECESSION.

OR THEY ARE PRAYING THING WOULD

BREAK IT WIDE OPEN OR

ADAM SCHIFF'S RHETORICAL

BRILLIANCE WOULD CHANGE THE

WHOLE TEMPLE OF THE COUNTRY.

IT NEVER HAPPENED AND NOW SHE'S

AT THE IMPASSE AND LOOKING

INSANE, YOU YOU KNOW WHAT, WHEN

AM I GOING TO DO I'M ALREADY

IMPEACHING HIM.

AND SO SHE'S GOING TO LET IT SIT

OUT THERE AND HOPE THAT SOMEBODY AND SO SHE'S GOING TO LET IT SIT

OUT THERE AND HOPE THAT SOMEBODY

CAN COME TO THE RESCUE AND

THERE'S A NEW WHISTLE-BLOWER.

THERE'S A NEW DOCUMENT, THERE'S

SOMETHING NEW AND WE CAN JUST

KEEP IT UP.

WHAT SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND, SHE

LOST THE SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN WHAT SHE DOESN'T UNDERSTAND, SHE

LOST THE SUPPORT OF THE AMERICAN

PEOPLE.

THE THINKS IT'S OUT THERE AND

THEY ARE TIRED OF IT, THE LONGER

IT'S SO CONTRARY TO THE PAST

PROTOCOL AND TRADITION, WHAT'S

EVEN MORE ANGRY, PEOPLE ARE

GOING TO GET.

THESE POLLS, IT'S PRETTY CLEAR

THAT IT'S NOT DRAMATIC BUT DRIP

BY DRIP BY DRIP, THE DEMOCRATS

ARE LOSING THE PUBLIC SUPPORT