Subtitles section Play video Print subtitles WAS HAPPENING, BUT HE WAS PLANNING A VERY MAJOR ATTACK, AND WE GOT HIM. >> Pete: THAT WAS PRESIDENT TRUMP EXPLAIN WHY HE TOOK ACTION TO KILL YOUR BRAND'S TOP GENERAL, HE DID IT TO HOLD BACK A WAR, BUT HIS CRITICS ARE PILING ON. >> BUT WITHOUT CONGRESSIONAL OPPOSITION, ENTERING INTO ANOTHER MIDDLE EAST WAR. >> I WOULD ANTICIPATE THE PERSIAN GULF WAR WILL BEGIN ANEW. >> THIS ONE OFF ACTION CAN HAVE UNBELIEVABLY HORRIFIC CONSEQUENCES. THE NUMBER ONE, THERE WILL BE DEAD AMERICANS, DEAD CIVILIAN AMERICANS AS A RESULT OF THIS. >> IT IS NOT JUST SERVICE MEMBERS, ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS ARE WALKING PRIME TARGETS FOR IRANIAN RETALIATION. >> Lawrence: ACCUSING PRESIDENT TRUMP AS USING THE AIR STRIKE AS IMPEACHMENT, TWEETING SO WHAT IF TRUMP ONCE MORE, KNOWS IT IS AT LEAST A WAR AND NEEDS A DISTRACTION." OH, MY GOD. PETE, TYPICALLY WHEN THERE IS SOMETHING LIKE THIS, THE COUNTRY COMES TOGETHER, YOU PUT POLITICS ASIDE. OF COURSE, THEY CAN HAVE THE DEBATE IF THE PRESIDENT SHOULD DECLARE WAR, BUT ACCUSING THE PRESIDENT OF USING THIS FOR A BLOCK FOR IMPEACHMENT? >> Pete: THE WHOLE IDEA OF HIM BEING COMMANDER IN CHIEF, THERE WAS A COMMENTATOR TODAY THAT SAID RIGHT ACTION, WRONG COMMANDER IN CHIEF. AND IT DOES NOT MATTER THE DECISION THAT IS MADE. THERE WAS LITERALLY JONATHAN ON ANOTHER NETWORK THAT SAID, THE IMPLICATION IS, I WOULD RATHER HAVE THE CORRECT COMMANDER IN CHIEF, MEANING HILLARY CLINTON AND THE WRONG ACTION. AND SUMS UP PRECISELY HOW THEY VIEW HIM, THE REALITY IS, THE COMMENTARY IS TRUE. HE MADE THE RIGHT CALL. HE MADE A CALL BASED ON ADVISORS AROUND HIM WHO BELIEVE THIS IS AN IMMINENT THREAT AND SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE HE SAW A POLICY ACTION TAKEN UNDER THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION WHERE SOVEREIGN AMERICAN SOIL WHERE THERE WAS A CONSULATE OR AN EMBASSY THAT WAS THREATENED THEN NOT TAKEN SERIOUSLY. DISMISSED BY AN INTERNET VIDEO AND THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR LATER ON. HE SAID IF YOU'RE GOING TO TRY THAT. AND WE KNOW WHAT THEY DO, IRAN 40 YEARS AGO USE THE EMBASSY IN TEHRAN AS A LAUNCHING OFF POINT FOR THE AMERICAN PUBLIC. THE EMBASSY IS MEANINGFUL, IT IS SOVEREIGN AMERICAN SOIL. THIS WILL NOT HAPPEN AGAIN. AND AS A RESULT, I SEE THE SIGNS IN FRONT OF ME, AND I'M GOING TO COMPENSATE. I WILL SEND THE MARINES, I WILL SEND THE 82ND AIRBORNE, WHICH HE DID KNOWING THEY HAD INTELLIGENCE ON THE LINE. IT LOOKED LIKE A BIGGER REACTION THAN PEOPLE THOUGHT AS A RESULT, THEY KNEW WHAT WAS COMING NEXT. THIS WAS SOMETHING INTENTIONAL, BECAUSE HE DID NOT, IMAGINE IF HE HAD NOT ACTED. THE AMOUNT OF NEGLIGENCE HE WOULD BE CHARGED WITH FOR KNOWING ABOUT THE GATHERING THREAT AND NOT STEPPING UP. >> Emily: THERE BEEN THREATS FROM HIM FOR DECADES, THAT'S WHY I'M HARPING ABOUT KNOWING MORE ABOUT THIS. BECAUSE I THINK THE AMERICAN PEOPLE DESERVE THE KNOWLEDGE ABOUT WHY THIS TIME WAS DIFFERENT WITH ALL OF THE POTENTIAL DOWNSIDES THAT WILL COME FROM THE STRIKE. LOOK -- >> Pete: LIKE IN 2011, THERE WERE DOWNSIDES THAT CAME FROM THAT TOO. >> Emily: WE ARE NOT TALKING ABOUT 2011, WE ARE TALKING ABOUT TODAY. >> Pete: WHY CAN'T YOU SAY THIS IS A BAD GUY WHO IS DEAD AND THAT IS A GOOD THING? >> Emily: BECAUSE A CONSEQUENCES THAT COME FROM IT COULD HAVE STRATEGIC AND NEGATIVE IMPACTS ON THE UNITED STATES THAT OUTWEIGH THE BENEFITS. THIS IS A CONSEQUENTIAL DECISION THAT AMERICAN ADMINISTRATION HAS TAKEN IN THE MIDDLE EAST SINCE THE DECISION TO INVADE IRAQ IN 2003, AND I HAVE NOT SEEN THE STRATEGIC PLANNING FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION THAT MEANS THEY KNOW WHAT WILL COME NEXT. >> Lawrence: IT IS ONE THING TO SAY THAT YOU NEED MORE INFORMATION, BUT YOU HAVE OBAMA FORMER OFFICIALS LIKE BEN ROGUE SAYING THAT THEY QUESTION THE PRESIDENT STRATEGY, THE COMPETENCE TO LEAD. >> Dana: THAT WILL HAPPEN, AND PRESIDENTS CANNOT WORRY. THEY HAVE TO MAKE DECISIONS BASED ON THE INFORMATION THAT THEY HAVE, THE RESPONSIBILITY THAT THEY HAVE AND THE TIMING, AND THAT IS NOT FOR THEM TO FIGURE THAT OUT RIGHT NOW, THE OTHER THING IS, IF THERE HAD BEEN AN ATTACK BASED ON SOMETHING THE PRESIDENT KNEW ABOUT AND DID NOT ATTACK, WHAT YOU THINK THE 2020 DEMOCRATS WOULD HAVE SAID INSTEAD? IT WOULD'VE BEEN A DIFFERENT ADMINISTRATION BECAUSE OF HOW MUCH TOUGHER THEY WOULD BE. IT IS DIFFICULT WHEN IT HAPPENS IN THE MIDDLE OF A PRESIDENTIAL ELECTION. TO THE POINT IS THAT THE CONGRESSWOMAN FROM MINNESOTA SAID THAT IT MAY BE PRESIDENT TRUMP WAS JUST TRYING TO CREATE A DISTRACTION, I THINK YOU CAN ARGUE PLEASE SAY THAT FROM SEPTEMBER UNTIL NOW, THE BIGGEST DISTRACTION IN AMERICA HAS BEEN IMPEACHMENT. THAT WAS ACTUALLY A DISTRACTION. AND I ALSO THINK THAT THERE IS MORE STRATEGIES BEHIND THIS BECAUSE OF SOMETHING YOU POINTED OUT, PETE, THAT IN APRIL OF 2019, THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION DESIGNATES SOLEIMANI AND HIS GROUP AS A TERRORIST ORGANIZATION. I THINK THAT PROBABLY WILL LOOK BACK AND FIND THE HISTORY IS WRITTEN ABOUT THIS TIME THAT THERE WAS A LOT MORE STRATEGY THAN WE THOUGHT. BUT YOU CAN'T PLAN EVERYTHING OUT. SO YES, YOU NEED TO KNOW WHERE THINGS ARE GOING. SPEAK TO THE POINT I WOULD LIKE TO MAKE IS THAT WHEN PEOPLE SAY THAT THIS IS THE S ESCALATION, WHAT HAVE THE IRANIANS BEEN DOING? STEADILY ESCALATING AND BECOMING BOLDER WITH THEIR ACTIONS AGAINST US STARTING WITH OIL TANKERS AND THEN THE OIL PROCESSING FACILITIES AND THEN U.S. POSITIONS, AND THEN AN ALL-OUT ATTACK THAT KILLED A U.S. CONTRACTOR AND THEN AN ATTACK ON THE U.S. EMBASSY. SO I ALSO DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY ALL OF A SUDDEN OUT OF THE BLUE WE QUESTION THE U.S. INTELLIGENCE COMMUNITY WHEN APPARENTLY ESPECIALLY IN DOMESTIC MATTERS THEY ARE TO BE ABSOLUTELY BELIEVED AT ALL POINTS. IT IS ONLY BECAUSE OF THE INVOLVEMENT THAT ALL OF A SUDDEN WE ARE NOT TO TRUST THEM. WHEN THEY HAVE THE INTELLIGENCE COMMITTEE COMING OUT THAT A MAJOR ATTACK NECESSITATED THE PREEMPTION WITH THE RISK. SO WHY NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN DO WE NEED MORE INFORMATION WHEN WE HAVE IT COUPLED WITH IRANIAN BEHAVIOR AND DECISIONS IN THESE LAST YEAR OR SO HAVE ESCALATED, WHY WOULD WE NOT BELIEVE THAT? >> Lawrence: 2020 DEMOCRATS LASHING OUT AT PRESIDENT TRUMP FOR KILLING THE IRANIAN TOP COMMANDER. HITTING BACK. WE WILL DISCUSS NEXT ON "THE FIVE." ♪ ♪ But right now, is not the time to talk about it.
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