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  • MARIA: WELCOME BACK.

  • A LOT OF BREAKING NEWS THIS

  • MORNING.

  • IRAQ'S PARLIAMENT MOMENTS AGO

  • VOTING TO END THE PRESENCE OF

  • ALL FOREIGN FORCES IN THE

  • COUNTRY.

  • THEIR OUTGOING PRIME MINISTER

  • SAY IT WOULD BE THE QUOTE, BEST

  • OPTION TO ESTABLISH A STRONG

  • RELATIONSHIP WITH AMERICA AND

  • OTHER NATIONS.

  • MEANWHILE THE WHITE HOUSE THIS

  • WEEKEND FORMALLY NOTIFYING

  • CONGRESS ABOUT THE STRIKE THAT

  • TOOK OUT IRAN'S TOP MILITARY

  • COMMANDER SOLEIMANI.

  • JOINING ME RIGHT NOW IS

  • REPUBLICAN SENATOR LINDSEY

  • GRAHAM, CHAIRMAN OF SENATE

  • JUDICIARY COMMITTEE.

  • MEMBER OF THE FOREIGN RELATIONS

  • COMMITTEE.

  • VERY GOOD TO SEE YOU THIS

  • MORNING.

  • THANKS VERY MUCH FOR JOINING ME.

  • >> GOOD MORNING.

  • MARIA: YOUR REACTION TO THE

  • LATEST VOTE OUT OF COMING OUT OF

  • IRAN, IRAQ RATHER, TO REMOVE ALL

  • FOREIGN TROOPS?

  • >> WELL IT'S A BIT CONCERNING.

  • I HOPE ALL THE IRANIANS WOULD

  • LEAVE.

  • HERE'S THE POINT.

  • THE IRANIAN GOVERNMENT IS TRYING

  • TO BASICALLY TAKE OVER IRAQ'S

  • POLITICAL SYSTEM.

  • IRAN IS BRIBING IRAQI

  • POLITICIANS, TO THE IRAQI

  • PEOPLE, DO NOT ALLOW YOUR

  • POLITICIANS TO TURN IRAQ INTO A

  • PROXY OF IRAN.

  • I GOT TO READ THE DETAILS OF

  • THIS RESOLUTION.

  • BUT HERE'S WHAT WOULD SERVE THE

  • WORLD WELL, IF PRESIDENT TRUMP

  • LAID OUT WHAT HE WANTS IRAN TO

  • DO TO RELIEF SANCTIONS.

  • I THINK THIS HAS BEEN DONE

  • BEFORE BUT NOW IS THE TIME FOR

  • THE PRESIDENT TO TELL THE WORLD,

  • WHAT WE WOULD LIKE IRAN TO DO,

  • TO GET BACK TO A NORMAL

  • RELATIONSHIP.

  • HERE IS MY BELIEF.

  • IT IS NOT UNREASONABLE.

  • WE WOULD LIKE THEM TO STOP BEING

  • THE LARGEST STATE SPONSOR OF

  • TERRORISM, STOP DISMEMBERING THE

  • MIDDLE EAST, STOP BUILDING

  • ROCKETS AND MISSILES THAT COULD

  • DESTROY THE REGION AND

  • EVENTUALLY THE UNITED STATES,

  • STOP BEING SO PROVOCATIVE.

  • I WISH THE PRESIDENT WOULD TELL

  • THE IRANIANS, HERE IS EXACTLY

  • WHAT YOU NEED TO DO FOR THE

  • SANCTIONS TO BE LIFTED AND ALLOW

  • THEM TO MAKE A DECISION BASED ON

  • A WAY FORWARD THAT IS GOOD FOR

  • THEM AND THE REGION AND SEE WHAT

  • THEY WOULD DO.

  • MARIA: SENATOR, THE PRESIDENT

  • KEEPS SAYING, AND SECRETARY OF

  • STATE MIKE POMPEO, THAT THEY

  • DON'T NECESSARILY WANT REGIME

  • CHANGE BUT CAN YOU REALLY DO THE

  • THINGS THAT YOU'RE TALKING

  • ABOUT, CHANGE BEHAVIORS WITHOUT

  • A REGIME CHANGE AND HOW DO YOU

  • ESTABLISH A REGIME CHANGE

  • WITHOUT AN ACTUAL INVASION?

  • >> WELL, NOBODY IS GOING TO

  • INVADE IRAN.

  • YOU DON'T NEED ONE AMERICAN

  • TROOP SOLDIER ON THE GROUND TO

  • ACHIEVE WHAT I'M TRYING TO

  • ACHIEVE.

  • EVERYBODY WANT THE REGIME TO

  • CHANGE.

  • YOU WOULD HAVE TO BE CRAZY TO

  • WANT IT TO STAY THE SAME.

  • IT IS THE LARGEST STATE SPONSOR

  • OF TERRORISM.

  • IT THREATENS THE EXIST LENS OF

  • ISRAEL.

  • SUPPORTS HEZBOLLAH WITH ROCKETS

  • AND MISSILES TO DESTROY ISRAEL.

  • THEY HAVE GOT AMERICAN BLOOD ON

  • THEIR HANDS, IRAQI BLOOD, SYRIAN

  • BLOOD.

  • EVERYBODY WANTS THEM TO CHANGE

  • BUT HERE'S WHAT IS MISSING.

  • WHAT WOULD IT TAKE FOR THEM TO

  • CHANGE?

  • WHAT KIND OF CHANGE DO WE WANT?

  • LAY IT OUT, LET THE WORLD KNOW

  • WE'RE REASONABLE.

  • IF THEY DON'T ACCEPT THE OFFER

  • TO CHANGE, THEN YOU KNOW YOU'VE

  • GOT VERY LIMITED CHOICES WHEN IT

  • COMES TO IRAN.

  • I DON'T THINK THEY WILL CHANGE.

  • I HOPE THE IRAQI -- EXCUSE ME

  • THE IRANIAN PEOPLE TAKE THE

  • GOVERNMENT BACK FROM THE

  • AYATOLLAH.

  • THAT IS THE ULTIMATE CHANGE.

  • MARIA: THE PROCESS OF TAKING

  • THIS GUY DOWN, IT HAS BEEN A

  • DECADE WHERE HE HAS BEEN DEEMED

  • A TERRORIST AND NOTHING WAS

  • DONE.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • MARIA: THE FACT HE WAS TAKEN OUT

  • ON A ROAD ROUTE IRISH, WHERE I'M

  • TOLD BY MILITARY PEOPLE THAT

  • THERE IS A LOT OF BLOOD ON THAT

  • ROAD.

  • THERE WERE IRANIAN IEDs ON

  • THAT ROAD WHICH KILLED

  • SERVICEMEN AND LEADERSHIP IN

  • THIS COUNTRY.

  • >> YES.

  • MARIA: SO TELL ME, WHAT YOU

  • THINK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OFO

  • THINK ABOUT THE SIGNIFICANCE OFF

  • TAKING HIM DOWN WHERE HE WAS

  • TAKEN DOWN IN IRAQ, NEAR THE

  • BAGHDAD AIRPORT?

  • >> WELL PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS

  • REALLY CHANGED THE EQUATION

  • HERE.

  • FOR THE FIRST TIME IN MY

  • LIFETIME THE IRANIANS ARE

  • WORRIED ABOUT THE AMERICANS.

  • USED TO BE WE WERE WORRIED ABOUT

  • THE IRANIANS EXCLUSIVELY.

  • THEY DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH

  • DONALD TRUMP.

  • THE KILLED WE KILLED THIS GUY ON

  • ROUTE IRIS, IS A BIG DEAL.

  • I'VE BEEN IN UP-ARMORED VEHICLES

  • AS RESERVIST.

  • IT IS DANGEROUS PLACE.

  • IT WAS TARGET OF OPPORTUNITY FOR

  • IRANIAN BACKED MILITIAS.

  • HE MET HIS DEATH ON A ROSE TO

  • USE AMERICANS.

  • HERE IS THE POINT.

  • MAXIMUM PRESSURE CAMPAIGN IS

  • WORKING.

  • THE ECONOMY IS IN THE TOILET.

  • OBAMA TRIED TO GET THEM TO

  • CHANGE GIVING THEM A BUNCH OF

  • MONEY AND NUCLEAR DEAL.

  • THAT DIDN'T WORK.

  • TRUMP IS TRYING TO GET THEM TO

  • CHANGE THROUGH A MAXIMUM

  • PRESSURE CAMPAIGN.

  • WHAT HAVE WE LEARNED IN THE LAST

  • 48 HOURS?

  • THE MAXIMUM PRESSURE CAMPAIGN

  • HAS A MILITARY COMPONENT.

  • IF IRANIANS HIT AMERICAN TARGETS

  • AND AMERICAN INTERESTS AND

  • AMERICAN ALLIES WE WILL RESPOND

  • MILITARILY.

  • IF THEY HIT US AGAIN, THEN I

  • WOULD NOT WANT, I WOULD NOT WANT

  • TO BE WORKING AN IRANIAN OIL

  • FIELD BECAUSE I THINK THE

  • PRESIDENT IS DETERMINED TO BRING

  • THIS REGIME TO ITS KNEES IF THEY

  • CONTINUE TO BE PROVOCATIVE.

  • MARIA: WHEN THE PRESIDENT SAID

  • THOSE 52 TARGETS, YOU GOT TO

  • BELIEVE ONE OF THEM OR SOME OF

  • THEM ARE OIL FACILITIES FOR

  • SURE.

  • WE HAVE A LOT TO GET TO WITH

  • YOU.

  • I WANT I WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE

  • UPCOMING IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.

  • THERE IS LOT OF PUSHBACK ON THE

  • MOVE FROM CRITICS ALEXANDRIA

  • OCASIO-CORTEZ.

  • I READ HER TWEET EARLIER TO THE

  • SECRETARY.

  • TO COLIN KAEPERNICK SENATOR.

  • KAEPERNICK WRITES THERE IS

  • NOTHING NEW ABOUT AMERICAN

  • TERRORIST ATTACKS AGAINST BLACK

  • AND BROWN PEOPLE FOR EXPANSION

  • OF AMERICAN I AM PEOPLISM.

  • YOUR RESPONSE?

  • >> HE IS A LOSER ON AND OFF THE

  • FIELD.

  • HE HAS NO IDEA WHAT THE IRANIAN

  • REGIME HAS DONE FOR THE REGION.

  • HE HAS NO IDEA THEY HAVE 600

  • AMERICAN DEATHS OF IEDs MADE

  • IN IRAN, USED IN IRAQ.

  • IT IS UN-AMERICAN.

  • HE IS A RACIST.

  • IF YOU ARE LOOKING FOR RACISM IN

  • AMERICA, MR. KAEPERNICK.

  • LOOK IN THE MIRROR.

  • YOUR COUNTRY IS NOT THE PROBLEM.

  • IT IS IRANIANS YOU'RE SO BLINDED

  • BY YOUR HATRED OF TRUMP YOU

  • CAN'T SEE THE DIFFERENCE WHO WE

  • ARE AND WHO THE AYATOLLAH IS.

  • PRETTY SAD.

  • MARIA: SO YOU DON'T BELIEVE

  • CONGRESS SHOULD HAVE BEEN SPOKEN

  • TO FIRST BEFORE THIS STRIKE?

  • THE PRESIDENT WAS OBVIOUSLY

  • RESPONDING TO ATTACKS, WHAT IS

  • YOUR TAKE IN TERMS OF CONGRESS.

  • >> RIGHT.

  • I'VE BEEN A MILITARY LAWYER FOR

  • 33 YEARS.

  • THESE TROOPS ARE IN THE FIELD AT

  • THE DIRECTION OF THE

  • COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF WITH THE

  • SUPPORT OF THE CONGRESS.

  • YOU DO NOT NEED CONGRESSIONAL

  • AUTHORIZATION TO DEFEND TROOPS

  • IN THE FIELD IN HARM'S WAY.

  • AOC DOESN'T KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT

  • THE LAW OF ARMED CONFLICT

  • OBVIOUSLY.

  • EVERY COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF HAS THE

  • RIGHT TO DEFEND OUR PEOPLE ON

  • THE BATTLEFIELD.

  • IT WAS CLEAR TO ME THAT THIS WAS

  • A DEFENSIVE STRIKE.

  • THAT MR. SOLEIMANI WAS PLANNING

  • ADDITIONAL ATTACKS AGAINST

  • AMERICAN INTERESTS.

  • AOC'S WORLD I GUESS WE'RE

  • SUPPOSED TO SIT BACK AND WATCH A

  • BUNCH OF AMERICANS GET KILLED.

  • WE'RE NOT THE BAD GUYS.

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