SECURITY ADVISOR JOHN BOLTON

ANNOUNCING HE WILL TESTIFY IN

PRESIDENT TRUMP'S UPCOMING

SENATE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL IF HE

RECEIVES A SUBPOENA.

LAWMAKERS ARE RETURNING TO

CAPITOL HILL WITH BOTH SIDES OF

THE AISLE STILL DIVIDED ON THE

RULES FOR PRESIDENT TRUMP'S

SENATE IMPEACHMENT TRIAL.

SENATE JUDICIARY COMMITTEE

CHAIRMAN LINDSEY GRAHAM SAYS "OF

HOUSES BEAKER NANCY PELOSI DOES

NOT HAND OVER THOSE ARTICLES OF

IMPEACHMENT TO THE UPPER CHAMBER

SOON, HE WILL FIND A WAY TO

START THE SENATE TRIAL WITHOUT

THEM."

>> WHAT I WILL DO IF SHE

CONTINUES TO REFUSE TO SEND THE

ARTICLES AS REQUIRED BY THE

CONSTITUTION, I WOULD WORK WITH

SENATOR McCONNELL TO CHANGE

THE RULES IN THE SENATE SO WE

COULD START THE TRIAL WITHOUT

HER IF NECESSARY.

IF WE DON'T GET THE ARTICLES

THIS WEEK, THEN WE NEED TO TAKE

METALS INTO OUR OWN HANDS AND

CHANGE THE RULES, SO WE CAN

START THE TRIAL INVITE THE

HOUSE SO THEY CAN PARTICIPATE.

>> OKAY, KELLY, I WANT TO START

WITH YOU.

PREVIOUSLY, JOHN BOLTON SAID HE

WAS UNDECIDED AS TO WHETHER HE

WOULD TESTIFY OR NOT.

THAT WAS WHEN IT WAS BACK IN THE

HOUSE.

THEY CHOSE NOT TO SUBPOENA HIM

AS THEY SAID THEY WOULD WAIT FOR

THE COURTS TO DECIDE.

NOW HE IS SAYING HE WAS LOOKING

FOR A FINAL JUDICIAL RESOLUTION.

I HAVE CONCLUDED THAT IF THE

SENATE ISSUE SUBPOENA FOR MY

TESTIMONY, I AM PREPARED TO

TESTIFY BECAUSE A FINAL JUDICIAL

ROGER LUTHERAN APPEARS UNLIKELY

BEFORE THE SENATE TRIAL.

THE COURTS ARE WAITING TO DECIDE

TO COMPEL HIM.

NOW HE SAYS IF I GET A SUBPOENA

I WILL GO.

WHAT KIND OF RELEVANT

INFORMATION DO YOU THINK HE HAS?

>> Cully: NO IDEA, BUT I CAN

TELL YOU ONE THING.

JOHN BOLTON IS A REALLY SMART.

CLARENCE THOMAS, WHEN HE GAVE A

SPEECH AT MY ORGANIZATION YEARS

AGO SAID THAT JOHN BOLTON WAS

THE SMARTEST GUY IN LAW SCHOOL

AND HAD THE HIGHEST GPA AT YALE

LAW SCHOOL EVER.

I DON'T KNOW WHETHER THAT'S TRUE

TO THIS DAY, BUT HE IS A SAVVY

CHARACTER.

I THINK HE ALSO FEELS THAT IT IS

PROBABLY HIS PATRIOTIC DUTY THAT

IF THE SENATE SOUNDS I'M A

SUBPOENA HE'S JUST GOING TO

COMPLY WITH IT.

WE DON'T KNOW WHAT'S GOING TO

COME OUT OF JOHN BOLTON'S MOUTH,

WE DON'T KNOW HOW MANY TIMES HE

WAS AT THE PRESIDENT SIDE.

WE DO KNOW FROM PUBLISHED

REPORTS THAT OVER TIME, HE

STARTED LOSING THE PRESIDENTS

HERE, ESPECIALLY NEAR THE END.

SO, WHETHER HE WAS THERE FOR THE

KEY UKRAINE STUFF, WE DON'T

KNOW.

>> Harris: KENNEDY, THAT IS IN

FACT WHAT HE SAID IS THAT "I

HAVE TRIED TO MEET MY

OBLIGATIONS BOTH AS A CITIZEN

AND AS A FORMAL NATIONAL

SECURITY ADVISOR."

THAT EIGHT IS HIS DUTY TO GO

TESTIFY, WHAT DO YOU THINK?

>> HE KNOWS HOW SMART HE IS,

JOHN BOLTON HAS THE JOHN BOLTON

WORLDVIEW, HE ALSO HAS A BOOK

COMING OUT, NO MATTER WHAT

HAPPENS, I DO THINK HE IS GOING

TO TELL THE TRUTH, HE'S GOING TO

LAY OUT THE CARDS AS HE SEES IT.

HE WANTS TO SET HIS OWN RECORD

STRAIGHT IN PRINTS AND VERBALLY

IN FRONT OF THE SENATE DURING

THIS TRIAL.

SO, I THINK THE NEWS OF IRAN AND

A POTENTIAL INVASION IN HIS

BRAIN HAS GOT HIM SO EXCITED

THAT HE NEEDS TO REINSERT

HIMSELF AND ADD HIS TWO CENTS AT

THIS CRITICAL STAGE.

>> SO, JEANNIE, THIS IS A VERY

INTERESTING CROSSROADS WHERE

LINDSEY GRAHAM SAYS THAT MAYBE

WE WILL TAKE THEM UP IF

NANCY PELOSI DOESN'T TAKE THEM

OVER AND DELIVER THEM.

SHE IS BEEN SITTING ON THESE

ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT, A LOT

OF PEOPLE ARE HYPOTHESES SAYING

THE REASON WHY SHE IS DOING THAT

IS BECAUSE SHE'S TRYING TO

NEGOTIATE WITH THE SENATE IN

ORDER TO HAVE A TRIAL AND BRING

THESE WITNESSES FORTH.

BUT SHE WAS NOT WILLING TO WAIT

ON THOSE WITNESSES IN THE HOUSE,

AND SUBPOENAING THEM AS JOHN

BOLTON SIDE, HE NEVER DID

RECEIVE A SUBPOENA.

SHE WASN'T WILLING TO WAIT ON

THE COURTS THEY ARE, BUT NOW,

SHE IS WAITING, AND TRYING TO

FORCE THE SENATE TO DO WHAT SHE

HERSELF DID NOT HAVE THE

PATIENCE TO DO.

HOW DOES THAT LOOK POLITICALLY?

>> I THINK POLITICALLY IT LOOKS

VERY BAD FOR THE DEMOCRATS.

I REALLY HAVE ALWAYS HAD A

PROBLEM WITH THE CALENDAR ON

THIS.

WHICH WAS A CALENDAR DRIVEN BY

THE POLITICS, CLEARLY.

I ALWAYS THOUGHT THAT THE

DEMOCRATS SHOULD HAVE WAITED TO

HEAR FROM THE COURTS, OR, FOR

BURTON TO CHANGE HIS MIND AND TO

AGREE TO A SUBPOENA REGARDLESS

OF WHAT THE COURTS ESSAY TO

GET ALL THE INFORMATION THAT

THEY HAD AND THEN, IF THEY ARE

GOING TO PUT SOME THING

TOGETHER --

>> Harris: SO IS IT HELPFUL

THAT BOLTS AND OTHERS ARE

WILLING TO SPEED UP THE

SITUATION FOR THE DEMOCRATS

WESTERN MARK THEY ARE NOT DOING

IT FOR THEM BUT --

THIS BEFORE I THINK IT IS SUCH A

SHAME THAT THESE ARTICLES HAVE

NOW GONE OUT.

ARE THEY GOING TO GO BACK

DEPENDING ON WHAT BOLTON HAS TO

SAY AND REWRITE AS ARTICLES OF

IMPEACHMENT?

I SUPPOSE THEY COULD.

YOU ARE THE LEGAL EXPERT, HERE,

BUT YOU KNOW, TO ME, THIS

SCREAMS A POLITICAL MESS FOR THE

DEMOCRATS IN THE HOUSE, AND I

THINK THEY HAVE SHOT THEMSELVES

IN THE FOOT ON THIS.

>> Harris: CULLY CAN ASK YOU,

DO YOU MIND IF I JUST ASKED BETA

QUICK QUESTION.

WHAT LEGALLY CAN SOMEONE LIKE A

JOHN BOLTON DO ON THE STAND?

IT'S NOT REALLY THE STAND, BUT

IN THE HEARING, CAN HE PLEAD THE

FIFTH, CAN HEEM HAVE ANY KIND OF

EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE, CAN HE DOES

NOT ANSWER QUESTIONS, WHAT HERS

OPTIONS?

>> Cully: REMEMBER, THIS IS

NOT A CRIMINAL TRIAL.

THIS IS A POLITICAL PROCESS,

THAT IS WHAT IMPEACHMENT IS ALL

ABOUT.

THE CRIMINAL PROCEDURES AND

RULES DO NOT APPLY.

BUT EVERYONE STILL ENJOYS A FOR

THE AMENDMENT RIGHT.

NOT TO SAY SOMETHING AGAINST

THEIR OWN INTEREST.

SO HE COULD COME ON A QUESTION

BY QUESTION BASIS, NOT ON A

BLANKET BASIS, AND I SUSPECT, I

WOULD HAVE TO THINK MORE ABOUT

IT, HE COULD PROBABLY ASSERT

EXECUTIVE -- IF THE PRESIDENT

EXERTS EXECUTIVE POINT ROAD LODZ

ON THAT QUESTION BY QUESTION

BASIS HE MIGHT THEN BE ABLE TO

TESTIFY ABOUT THESE THINGS BUT

NOT TESTIFY ABOUT THESE THINGS.

I THINK JOHN BOLTON USUALLY

PLAYS TRANCE WHEN MOST PEOPLE