CHILLING NEW PHOTOS OF JEFFREY

EPSTEIN'S JAIL CELL IN THE HOURS

AFTER HIS DEATH.

SOME OF THESE DISTURBING IMAGES,

WE WANT TO WARN YOU IN A MOMENT

TO HEAR YOU ARE ABOUT TO SEE,

MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR ANY TIME

OF TELEVISION BUT WE JUST WANTED

TO GIVE YOU HEADS UP ON THAT.

SEVERAL OF THE PHOTOS, LIKE THIS

ONE, TAKING IT EPSTEIN'S

AUTOPSY, SHOWING THE BLOODIED

WOUNDS AROUND HIS NECK.

THE MEN HIRED BY THE OBSCENE

FAMILY TO INVESTIGATE THE DEATH,

DR. MICHAEL BADEN.

GOOD MORNING TO YOU.

THE IMAGE WE JUST SHOWED THERE

WAS FROM 60 MINUTES LAST NIGHT.

THE FIRST TIME WE HAD A CHANCE

TO SEE IT.

AGAIN, WARNING HER VIEWERS.

HEADS UP ON THIS.

WHAT NEW INFORMATION, KNOWING

THEY WERE WORKING ON BEHALF OF

THE BROTHER OF JEFFREY EPSTEIN,

DO YOU PROVIDE TO THIS?

>> I THINK THERE'S A LOT OF

INFORMATION THAT STILL HASN'T

BEEN REVEALED YET THAT IS

ESSENTIAL IN ORDER TO ARRIVE AT

A CONCLUSION, WHETHER THIS IS

THE SUICIDE OR HOMICIDE.

I THINK THE CLOSING OUT OF THE

CASE AS A SUICIDE SO QUICKLY WAS

PREMATURE.

THE PHOTOGRAPH YOU JUST SHOWED

OF THE LIGATURE MARKER AROUND

THE NECK, THE ABILITY LIGATURE

MARK, DOESN'T MATCH THE LIGATURE

THAT WAS FOUND AT THE SCENE.

AND THAT THE MEDICAL EXAMINER

COPIED TO SHOW HOW HE WAS

HANGED.

IT WAS TOO WIDE AND TOO SMOOTH.

THIS IS A ROUGHER INJURY.

THE HEMORRHAGES IN THE EYES, THE

CRUSH INJURIES IN THE NECK,

THREE FRACTURES IN THE NECK,

THEY ARE NOT SEEN IN HANGING

SUICIDES.

YOU MIGHT GET ONE FRACTURE.

BUT THIS IS A VERY HARD

COMPRESSION OF THE NECK.

I THINK THE IMPORTANT THING IS

TO FIND OUT WHAT WAS SEEN WHEN

THE GUARDS FIRST WENT INTO THE

CELL.

WAS HE HANGING, WAS HE ON THE

GROUND?

AS SOME PEOPLE REPORTED.

>> Bill: WHAT THE ANSWER?

>> WE DON'T KNOW YET.

APPARENTLY, FOR SOME OF YOU

HEARD THIS, THE GUARDS REFUSED

TO TALK.

FOR WHICH THEY'VE BEEN CHARGED

CRIMINALLY.

THIS IS A CRIMINAL INVESTIGATION

BY THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT, AND

THEREFORE THEY ARE NOT RELEASING

ANY INFORMATION.

WHOSE DNA WAS ON THE LIGATURE?

WAS IT HAS COME WAS SOMEBODY

ELSE'S?

>> Sandra: IS WHAT YOU ARE

SEEING OUT OF ONE OF PROTOCOL,

DR. BOB?

THE REMOVAL OF THE BODY, SOME

QUESTION WHETHER THAT WAS DONE

APPROPRIATELY?

>> THE REMOVAL OF THE BODY

DESTROYED A LOT OF THE FORENSIC

EVIDENCE.

EMS IS NOT SUPPOSED TO REMOVE

DEAD BODIES FROM JAILS.

THEY ARE SUPPOSED TO HAVE A

WHOLE FORENSIC WORK OUT, WHAT

KIND OF FORENSIC EVIDENCE IS ON

THE

CLOTHING, HOW LONG THE

PERSON WAS DEAD.

WE CAN TELL FROM THE LIGATURE

MARK THAT HE HAD BEEN -- THERE

WAS A TIGHT LIGATURE AROUND HIS

NECK FOR MANY HOURS, AND THE

FRONT OF THE NECK, FOR HE WAS

FOUND.

SO HE WAS DEAD FOR A LONG TIME.

BUT WE COULD BE MORE SPECIFIC

ABOUT THAT IF SOMEBODY TESTED

OUT THE STIFFNESS OF THE BODY,

ET CETERA, AT THE SCENE.

BUT A LOT WAS LOST WHEN THE BODY

WAS REMOVED.

AND A LOT CERTAINLY IS LOST

UNTIL, FOR SOME REASON, THE

GUARDS TELL HOW THE BODY WAS

FOUND.

>> Bill: 'S OF THE BIG

QUESTION IS WHETHER OR NOT HE

HANGED HIMSELF OR WHETHER HE WAS

STRANGLED.

>> YES.

>> Bill: HOW DO WE DETERMINE

THAT?

>> WE CAN DETERMINE THAT IT

AUTOPSY.

IN HANGING, ONE DOES NOT GET

THREE FRACTURES OF THE ADAM'S

APPLE AND THE BONE, THE HIGHWAY

GOING ABOVE IT.

THAT

JUST DOESN'T HAPPEN.

I HAVE BEEN LOOKING AT ALL OF

THE SUICIDAL HANGINGS IN

NEW YORK STATE, PRISONS, JAILS,

LOCKUPS --

>> Kennedy: WHAT ARE WE

LOOKING UP, WHILE THIS IS ON THE

SCREEN?

>> THAT IS THE LIGATURE THAT WAS

FOUND AT THE SCREEN, AND THE

NOOSE, WHICH PRESUMABLY IS WHAT

HE WAS FOUND HANGING WITH.

AND YET THERE IS NO TRANSFER OF

ANY BLOOD ON THAT LIGATURE FROM

THE NECK.

IT DOESN'T MATCH THE LIGATURE

MARK ON THE NECK.

IT'S TOO WIDE, IT'S TOO SMOOTH,

AND IT DOESN'T HAVE ANY TRANSFER

OF SKIN OR BLOOD.

>> Sandra: WHY HAS HIS FAMILY

HIRED YOU?

>> THE ONLY REASON THE BROTHER

AND THE ESTATE HIRED ME IS

BECAUSE THEY WANTED TO KNOW

RIGHT AWAY WHAT THE CAUSE OF

DEATH WAS.

THE ONLY REASON, USUALLY, THAT

MEDICAL EXAMINERS GET HIRED TO

DO SECOND -- TO BE PRESENT AT

AUTOPSY, IT TAKES WEEKS OR

MONTHS.

IT'S NOW FIVE MONTHS AND THEY

HAVEN'T RELEASED THE WHOLE THING

YET.

UNTIL YOU GET AN ANSWER.

SO THEY WANTED TO HAVE AN

ANSWER, FOR WHATEVER REASON, AS

SOON AS POSSIBLE.

THEY HAVE THEIR OWN EXPERT

THERE, AND THE NORMAL THING --

YES, I AGREE THIS IS A HANGING,

THAT THE END OF IT.

THE AUTOPSY FINDINGS AND SUPPORT

THAT.

THAT'S WHY THE MEDICAL EXAMINER

WHO DID THE AUTOPSY DID NOT CALL

IT A SUICIDE WHEN THAT WAS OVER.

THE ISSUE, THE DEATH CERTIFICATE

PENDING FURTHER STUDY, THAT WAS

CLOSED DOWN WITHIN A COUPLE OF

DAYS.

>> Bill: SO NO CAMERAS,

CAMERAS WERE NOT WORKING.

>> THEN IT TURNS OUT THE VIDEO

CAMERAS WERE CORRUPTED.

THE ONE THAT LOOKS IN THE CELL

AND THE ONE THAT LOOKS IN THE

SPACE, THE DOORWAY.

>> Bill: BUT WERE THERE OTHERS

THAT WERE FUNCTIONING?

>> NONFUNCTIONING.

>> Bill: THE GROWTH OF A

CRIMINAL CASE.

THEY HAVE NEVER TALKED, IS THAT

WITH DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU ARE

THINKING MEXICO PRESUMABLY PAY

THIS WITH THE CRIMINAL CASES.

THAT BECAUSE

THEY REFUSE TO TALK, THEY ARE

BEING INDICTED.

>> Bill: WENT TO BE

DEFINITIVELY FIND AN ANSWER?

>> AS SOON AS THE GUARDS WILL

SPEAK UP.

WE ARE TOLD THAT THERE IS A

TRIAL SCHEDULED IN MARCH OR

APRIL.

WE HAVE MANY GUARD TO FALL

ASLEEP.

ON DUTY COME AROUND THE STATE.

NEVER HAD A CRIMINAL CASE

AGAINST IT.

USUALLY THEY GET A PAT ON THE

WRIST OR SOMETHING.

NOBODY HAS EVER BEEN CHARGED

CRIMINALLY FOR FALLING ASLEEP

WHEN THEY WERE ON DUTY.

IT DOESN'T MAKE SENSE.

>> Sandra: IT SOUNDS LIKE

YOU'VE COME UP WITH YOUR OWN

THEORY ON WHAT HAPPENED.

>> MY CONCERN IS THAT THE

EVIDENCE IS THAT IS NOT A

HANGING, BUT IT IS A HOMICIDAL

STRANGULATION.

WHO DID IT, HOW IT HAPPENED,

CAN'T TELL.

BUT THAT THE FINDINGS ARE NOT --

ARE MORE INDICATIVE OF HOMICIDE

THAN AN ACCIDENT.

THEN SUICIDE.

>> Bill: THERE ARE QUESTIONS