There is that urge to say, like, "This is how I feel sometimes," and then have fans say, "Oh, my God, like, I feel that way sometimes, too!"

I think a documentary, if you are open enough, you can connect with people.

♪ I tell you that you'll never find another like me-hee-hee. ♪

Being in the studio was⏤that was some of my favorite stuff that we filmed.

That was the first time I've ever had a camera crew in the studio.

It's always been really off-limits.

It was actually amazing having you in the studio because, like, we'd finish writing a song, and, like, a sound guy would be like,

"This is really a⏤that's a really good song!"

It'd be like, "Thank you."

Actually, we never get this in the studio⏤nobody ever is like, "Hey, you know, that's... that's goo⏤that's a good one."

Right; keep going, keep going.

I just had no⏤honestly, had no idea how it would affect the creative process.

We ended up with you in the studio writing songs like "Me" and "The Man".

♪ Hey, then I'd be the man ♪

♪ I'd be the man ♪

That is a concept I've thought about for so many years, but I just always thought, like, "I wanna say it in a way that's, like, a satire."

And it's kind of like... kind of funny.

But it's also making a very serious point.

I think when I hit on this idea of like, "If I was a man, I'd be 'the man'."

Like, you guys would think I was so cool if I was doing this stuff and I was a guy.

Like, you know, and I could get away with this, I could get away with this.

I could get away with this; I'd get applauded for this.

♪ We drink to the pen and the bottles ♪

♪ To the bitches and models ♪

♪ To the da-da-da-da-das ♪

Working with Joel Little, who has two very strong, wonderful, intelligent young daughters, and I think, you know, I think he was writing for them.

- Yeah. - And I love showing that we really do have allies in the male civilization.

What I love about the scene in the film is that, you know, sometimes the camera is right here as you come up with a lyric.

How much did you notice that?

I mean, I think, yeah, I know what you mean.

'Cause you really were very close to my face in a lot of it, and I didn't⏤

I don't think we ever, like, asked you guys, like, can you go?

- Right. No. - 'Cause you just weren't invasive at all.

I think I was really in my feelings; I, like⏤

- Yeah. You're in the zone. - I just get really in it when I'm writing a song.

And I disappear into my phone because my phone is where I keep my notes and my phone is where I'm editing.

♪ ... the field ♪

♪ I know I found someone to commit to ♪

Every time I wake up in the middle of the night, or every time I think of a title, or every time I think of a common phrase and flip it,

I love doing that.

I'll put it in my... in my notes, but...

Yeah, there was a real speed to it, too, like...

- Yeah. - It seems like writing a song has a kind of dynamic, where you go, go, and you kind of have to keep going for many hours.

A lot of the time until it's done.

Yeah, I have to do that; I'm not...

- Everyone's different with their writing. - Sure.

A lot of people are stop-start.

I know people who will write a verse for one song and decide to just put it on another song.

Or like, I like this chorus, but I like it with this pre-chorus from this song.

And I'm like, "Oh, never done that once."

I kind of have to capitalize on the excitement of me getting that idea and see it all the way through, or else I'll leave it behind and I'll just assume it wasn't good enough.

♪ Baby that's just what I mean; hoo, hoo, hoo ♪

- Damn. - Holy shit!

Oh, my God, did we just do, like, this whole verse and chorus?

The ideas are my favorite part of the enti⏤of everything that I do.

That moment where you're like, "Oh, I know what it's called."

Or you're like, "I know what the hook is now."

And there's one point in the movie where you actually see on your face, you go like,...

'Cause you have an idea.

You get to see it.

♪Took the money in the bag and I stole...♪

- Took the money, took the money. - Put the money in the bag, and I stole the keys.

That was the last time you ever saw me.

I remember when I used to get an idea when I was 12 years old in my room.

I'd first get an idea and I'd be like, "Yes! Idea!"

And then I'd get this, like, fear and almost sorrow that no one was ever gonna hear it.

I'm never gonna get to make this into something; it's just mine.

And then, like, there's something cute about that, but, like, I want to make something.

Getting to capture on films, you know, getting an idea, that's one thing that I'm glad I'll have forever.

I'll always have, kind, of a memory of when that idea happened, that idea happened.

I'd never had that before.

Anyway, it's good that we both get to make things now.

We're so lucky!