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  • KIM, GREAT TO SEE YOU

  • TONIGHT.

  • >> THANK YOU.

  • >> Tucker: ONE OF THE STAR

  • WITNESSES DURING THE HOUSE

  • IMPEACHMENT HEARINGS WAS

  • LIEUTENANT COLONEL ALEXANDER

  • VINDMAN.

  • REMEMBER HIM?

  • THE GUY WHO GETS UPSET WHEN

  • PEOPLE CALL HIM MR. .

  • >> MR. VINDMAN, YOU

  • TESTIFIED IN YOUR DEPOSITION

  • THAT YOU DID NOT KNOW THE

  • WHISTLEBLOWER.

  • >> RANKING MEMBER, IT'S

  • LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN,

  • PLEASE.

  • >> YEAH, IT'S LIEUTENANT

  • COLONEL TO YOU, POW.

  • YOU MAY ALSO REMEMBER THAT

  • LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN

  • KEPT GETTING OFFERED

  • UKRAINE'S TOP MILITARY POST.

  • >> YOU WENT TO UKRAINE FOR

  • THE INAUGURATION?

  • >> CORRECT.

  • >> AT ANY POINT DURING THAT

  • TRIP DID MR. DANNY LUCK

  • OFFER YOU A POSITION WITH

  • THE UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT.

  • >> HE DID.

  • >> HOW MANY TIMES DID HE DO

  • THAT.

  • >> I BELIEVE IT WAS THREE

  • TIMES.

  • >> Tucker: HUH?

  • JUST A QUICK TEST.

  • YOU CAN ADMINISTER TO

  • YOURSELF.

  • HOW MANY TIMES HAS THE

  • UKRAINIAN GOVERNMENT OFFERED

  • TO GIVE YOU CONTROL OF ITS

  • MILITARY?

  • ZERO?

  • MR. VINDMAN HAS BEEN OFFERED

  • THREE TIMES.

  • PRETTY REMARKABLE.

  • HERE IS SOMETHING EVEN MORE

  • REMARKABLE.

  • THIS SHOW HAS LEARNED THAT

  • EVEN AFTER SAYING WHAT YOU

  • JUST SAW, EVEN AFTER

  • TESTIFYING AGAINST HIS BOSS,

  • THE PRESIDENT, EVEN AFTER

  • ADMITTING A FOREIGN POWER

  • KEEPS TRYING TO RECRUIT HIM,

  • SPEAKING OF RECRUITMENT BY

  • FOREIGN POWER MRS. VINDMAN

  • IS STILL SERVING ON THE

  • WHITE HOUSE NATIONAL

  • SECURITY COUNCIL RIGHT NOW.

  • HARD TO BELIEVE THAT BUT

  • APPARENTLY IT'S TRUE.

  • HE IS NOT ALONE EITHER.

  • JENNIFER WILLIAMS IS A MIKE

  • PENCE AIDE WHO ALSO

  • TESTIFIED IN THE SAME VEIN.

  • SHE IS STILL ON HER JOB,

  • TOO.

  • CONGRESSMAN DEVIN NUNES

  • REPRESENTS THE STATE OF

  • CALIFORNIA.

  • HE WAS UNELECTED, UNLIKE THE

  • PEOPLE YOU JUST SAW, HE

  • JOINS US TONIGHT.

  • THANKS FOR COMING ON.

  • THIS IS A SMALL THING THAT

  • REPRESENTS SOMETHING MUCH

  • LARGER, I THINK.

  • NOT OUR JOB TO GO AFTER

  • MR. VINDMAN.

  • BUT HOW COULD SOMEONE LIKE

  • THAT KEEP HIS JOB ON THE

  • NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL?

  • >> WELL, THERE IS A LOT OF

  • PROBLEMS WITH THE THE

  • NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL

  • AND THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION

  • IS TRYING TO GET IT UNDER

  • CONTROL.

  • THE KNEW NATIONAL SECURITY

  • ADVISOR IS DOING WHAT THE

  • PREVIOUS NATIONAL SECURITY

  • ADVISORS UNDER TRUMP DIDN'T

  • DO.

  • THAT IS TO TRY TO REDUCE THE

  • SIZE AND SCOPE SO THERE'S

  • HUNDREDS AND HUNDREDS OF

  • PEOPLE OVER AT THE NATIONAL

  • SECURITY COUNCIL WHICH,

  • LOOK, I HAVE NEVER BEEN ON

  • THE NATIONAL SECURITY

  • COUNCIL BUT IF YOU GO BACK

  • 20, 30 YEARS AGO DURING THE

  • REAGAN DAYS, I'M TOLD THAT,

  • YOU KNOW, YOU HAD A COUPLE

  • DOZEN PEOPLE.

  • MAYBE THREE, MAYBE FOUR

  • DOZEN PEOPLE TOTAL ON THE

  • NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL.

  • OBAMA PUT HUNDREDS FROM ALL

  • THIS, DON'T FORGET, YOU ALSO

  • HAVE PEOPLE THAT WERE ON THE

  • NATIONAL SECURITY STAFF THAT

  • WENT OVER TO ADAM SCHIFF'S

  • STAFF, THAT KNEW THE

  • WHISTLEBLOWER.

  • VINDMAN, THE GUY, YOU KNOW,

  • HE SERVED HIS COUNTRY,

  • THAT'S GREAT.

  • HE WANTS TO BE CALLED

  • LIEUTENANT COLONEL, THAT'S

  • FINE.

  • HIS BROTHER IS ALSO THERE AS

  • A LAWYER.

  • SO ALL OF THESE PEOPLE

  • COLLUDED AND COORDINATED

  • WITH THE WHISTLEBLOWER.

  • THEY COORDINATED WITH ADAM

  • SCHIFF'S STAFF, SO, YOU

  • KNOW, REALLY WHAT YOU HAD

  • THERE A DEN OF THIEVES THERE

  • AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY

  • COUNCIL AND LOOK, I HAVE

  • SAID THIS OVER AND OVER AND

  • OVER AGAIN.

  • I SAID THIS TO MCMASTER, I

  • SAID IT TO BOLTON AND I SAID

  • IT TO THE NEW NATIONAL

  • SECURITY ADVISOR O'BRIEN

  • THAT THEY JUST NEED TO GET

  • ALL THOSE PEOPLE OUT OF

  • THERE.

  • LIKE, IF YOU WERE THERE AND

  • WORKED FOR OBAMA AND YOU

  • WERE A HOLDOVER, JUST, YOU

  • KNOW, GET A USED BUILDING

  • SOMEWHERE ON THE OTHER SIDE

  • OF THE POTOMAC.

  • JUST GET THEM OUT OF THERE.

  • THEY HAVE DONE SO MUCH

  • DAMAGE TO THE PRESIDENCY I

  • COULDN'T AGREE WITH YOU

  • MORE.

  • >> Tucker: WHY NOT SAY

  • MR. VINDMAN AND YOUR LAWYER

  • BROTHER, TAKE A HIKE.

  • THEY ARE NOT IN CONTROL OF

  • THE GOVERNMENT.

  • IT'S NOT THEIR GOVERNMENT.

  • NO ONE ELECTED MR. VINDMAN

  • TO ANYTHING OR HIS LAWYER

  • BROTHER OR ANY OF THESE

  • PEOPLE.

  • THE GOVERNMENT EXISTS FOR

  • OUR BENEFIT AND IT'S NOT

  • WORKING.

  • AND SO WHY IS IT SO HARD TO

  • DO THAT?

  • I HONESTLY DON'T UNDERSTAND.

  • HAVING SPENT MY LIFE HERE, I

  • DON'T UNDERSTAND THAT.

  • >> LOOK, I HAVE NO IDEA.

  • THAT'S WHY I THINK I GAVE

  • THEM VERY GOOD ADVICE WHICH

  • IS THERE IS PLENTY OF EMPTY

  • BUILDINGS, LOOK, THANK YOU

  • FOR YOUR SERVICE.

  • JUST GET OFF THE PREMISES.

  • >> Tucker: GO WORK FOR

  • UKRAINE.

  • >> SPY ON THEM.

  • MAYBE HE WILL AT SOME POINT.

  • >> Tucker: YEAH.

  • I'M SORRY TO VENT TO YOU EYE

  • KNOW IT'S AS FRUSTRATING

  • FROM YOUR VANTAGE AS IT IS

  • FROM OURS.

  • >> IT IS VERY MUCH.

  • LOOK, I ALSO THINK, TUCKER,

  • THERE IS MORE GOING ON HERE.

  • I LISTENED TO YOUR OPENING

  • MONOLOGUE AND YOUR

  • DISCUSSION WITH KIM

  • STRASSEL.

  • WHAT'S HAPPENING TODAY IN

  • THE SENATE FLOOR AND LAST

  • THREE DAYS AND LAST THREE

  • MONTHS PREVIOUSLY IN THE

  • HOUSE OF REPRESENTATIVES,

  • THIS MAKES JOSEPH MCCARTHY

  • THE FORMER SENATOR IN THE

  • 1950s LOOK LIKE NOTHING.

  • IT LOOKS LIKE NOTHING.

  • REMEMBER, THIS IS A MAN WHO

  • HAS ACCUSED -- ADAM SCHIFF

  • HAS ACCUSED AND PELOSI THE

  • LEADERS OF THE DEMOCRATIC

  • PARTY HAVE ACCUSED ME OF

  • BEING A RUSSIAN ASSET.

  • TULSI GABBARD, A DEMOCRATIC

  • CANDIDATE OF BEING A RUSSIAN

  • ASSET.

  • THE SENATE MAJORITY LEADER

  • OF BEING A RUSSIAN ASSET.

  • DONALD TRUMP OF BEING A

  • RUSSIAN ASSET.

  • I THINK HE EVEN ACCUSED YOU

  • OF BEING A RUSSIAN ASSET.

  • >> Tucker: HE CERTAINLY DID.

  • CAN I SAY THE IRONY IS THIS

  • CITY IS BRIMMING WITH AGENTS

  • OF FOREIGN GOVERNMENTS AND

  • THEY'RE INFLUENCING POLICY

KIM, GREAT TO SEE YOU

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