CONNELL WILL UPDATE US ON THE LATEST.

LATEST. WHO KNOWS THAT BETTER THAN MY

WHO KNOWS THAT BETTER THAN MY NEXT GUEST, KARL ROVE, DEPUTY

NEXT GUEST, KARL ROVE, DEPUTY CHIEF OF STAFF.

CHIEF OF STAFF. THE LAST FOUR DEMOCRATIC

THE LAST FOUR DEMOCRATIC NOMINEES STARTED THE BALL

NOMINEES STARTED THE BALL ROLLING, THE RECORD FOR

ROLLING, THE RECORD FOR REPUBLICANS IS MORE SPOTTY.

REPUBLICANS IS MORE SPOTTY. HOW IMPORTANT WILL IT BE FOR

HOW IMPORTANT WILL IT BE FOR BERNIE SANDERS TO SECURE THE

BERNIE SANDERS TO SECURE THE WHEN HE APPEARS TO BE BUILDING

WHEN HE APPEARS TO BE BUILDING TOWARD IN SOME OF THESE POLLS?

TOWARD IN SOME OF THESE POLLS? >> WITH HAVE A CAUTIONARY NOTE

>> WITH HAVE A CAUTIONARY NOTE ABOUT POLLS, WE ARE TALKING

ABOUT POLLS, WE ARE TALKING RELATIVELY SMALL SAMPLE SIZES.

RELATIVELY SMALL SAMPLE SIZES. HERE’S THE REAL CLEAR POLITICS

HERE’S THE REAL CLEAR POLITICS AVERAGE.

AVERAGE. IT DOES SHOWS SANDERS AHEAD BUT

IT DOES SHOWS SANDERS AHEAD BUT LET’S LOOK AT THE RECENT POLLS

LET’S LOOK AT THE RECENT POLLS IN IOWA.

IN IOWA. MONMOUTH HAD SANDERS 21, BIDEN

MONMOUTH HAD SANDERS 21, BIDEN 23, BUT PLUS OR MINUS IS 4.2 SO

23, BUT PLUS OR MINUS IS 4.2 SO SANDERS COULD BE 25 OR 17 AND

SANDERS COULD BE 25 OR 17 AND BIDEN COULD BE 27 OR 19, IOWA

BIDEN COULD BE 27 OR 19, IOWA STATE, SANDERS AHEAD 24-15,

STATE, SANDERS AHEAD 24-15, NEARLY A 5 POINT PLUS OR MINUS,

NEARLY A 5 POINT PLUS OR MINUS, SANDERS COULD BE A SIZE 29 OR AS

SANDERS COULD BE A SIZE 29 OR AS LOW AS 19 AND BIDEN COULD BE A

LOW AS 19 AND BIDEN COULD BE A 10 OR 20 AND SO WE HAVE TO BE

10 OR 20 AND SO WE HAVE TO BE CAREFUL ABOUT HARD TO PULL THE

CAREFUL ABOUT HARD TO PULL THE PRIMARY AND THESE ARE RELATIVELY

PRIMARY AND THESE ARE RELATIVELY SMALL SAMPLE SIZES WITH A LOT OF

SMALL SAMPLE SIZES WITH A LOT OF ROOM FOR ERROR AND THEN YOU HAVE

ROOM FOR ERROR AND THEN YOU HAVE THE 15% PROBLEM.

THE 15% PROBLEM. IF YOU ARE IN A PRECINCT WHERE

IF YOU ARE IN A PRECINCT WHERE THERE IS AN ALSO-RAN, TOM

THERE IS AN ALSO-RAN, TOM STEINER OR AMY KLOBUCHAR OR

STEINER OR AMY KLOBUCHAR OR ELIZABETH WARREN OR PETE

ELIZABETH WARREN OR PETE BUTTIGIEG, THEY HAVE TO PICK A

BUTTIGIEG, THEY HAVE TO PICK A SECOND CHOICE IN ORDER TO HAVE A

SECOND CHOICE IN ORDER TO HAVE A VOICE OR GO HOME AND WE DON’T

VOICE OR GO HOME AND WE DON’T KNOW WHERE THOSE PEOPLE ARE OR

KNOW WHERE THOSE PEOPLE ARE OR HOW THEY PLAY OUT.

HOW THEY PLAY OUT. IT WILL BE A LONG NIGHT IN MY

IT WILL BE A LONG NIGHT IN MY OPINION AND WE ARE LIKELY, I

OPINION AND WE ARE LIKELY, I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE

WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE THREE PEOPLE GET A BUNCH OF

THREE PEOPLE GET A BUNCH OF DELEGATES, FOUR CANDIDATES SPLIT

DELEGATES, FOUR CANDIDATES SPLIT UP THE STATES 41 DELEGATES.

UP THE STATES 41 DELEGATES. I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE

I WOULD NOT BE SURPRISED TO SEE 5 CANDIDATES SHARE THAT 40 ONE

5 CANDIDATES SHARE THAT 40 ONE PERSON DELEGATE POOL.

PERSON DELEGATE POOL. >> YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT.

>> YOU ARE QUITE RIGHT. I WAS LOOKING AT THE POLLS

I WAS LOOKING AT THE POLLS LARGELY FOR THE DEMOCRATS

LARGELY FOR THE DEMOCRATS CONSISTENTLY UNDERSTATED THE

CONSISTENTLY UNDERSTATED THE SUPPORT FOR THE EMERGING WINNER

SUPPORT FOR THE EMERGING WINNER OF THE STATE, THERE COULD BE

OF THE STATE, THERE COULD BE MULTIPLE WINNERS BUT WHATEVER

MULTIPLE WINNERS BUT WHATEVER YOU MAKE OF BERNIE SANDERS’S

YOU MAKE OF BERNIE SANDERS’S CHANCES I’M CURIOUS WHAT YOU

CHANCES I’M CURIOUS WHAT YOU MAKE OF THE GROWING CONCERN

MAKE OF THE GROWING CONCERN AMONG PARTY HIRE AS, RAHM

AMONG PARTY HIRE AS, RAHM EMANUEL THE LATEST IN THE WALL

EMANUEL THE LATEST IN THE WALL STREET JOURNAL, TO SAY WE ARE

STREET JOURNAL, TO SAY WE ARE BLOWING OUR CHANCES RIGHT NOW

BLOWING OUR CHANCES RIGHT NOW WITH A BIG FOCUS ON REALLY BIG

WITH A BIG FOCUS ON REALLY BIG PROGRESSIVE SPENDERS.

PROGRESSIVE SPENDERS. WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT?

WHAT DO YOU MAKE OF THAT? >> THIS IS A SIGN OF TWO THINGS

>> THIS IS A SIGN OF TWO THINGS THE ONE, A SIGN THAT PEOPLE ARE

THE ONE, A SIGN THAT PEOPLE ARE ACKNOWLEDGING THAT BERNIE IS

ACKNOWLEDGING THAT BERNIE IS REAL, BERNIE HAS BEEN MOVING, IN

REAL, BERNIE HAS BEEN MOVING, IN IOWA AND NATIONWIDE BERNIE HAS

IOWA AND NATIONWIDE BERNIE HAS BEEN MOVING UP IN THE POLLS AND

BEEN MOVING UP IN THE POLLS AND SECOND OF ALL OF REAL CLEAR THAT

SECOND OF ALL OF REAL CLEAR THAT A SELF-PROCLAIMED DEMOCRATIC

A SELF-PROCLAIMED DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST WHO HONEYMOONED IN THE

SOCIALIST WHO HONEYMOONED IN THE FORMER SOVIET UNION WHICH WAS

FORMER SOVIET UNION WHICH WAS THEN THE SOVIET UNION AND HAD

THEN THE SOVIET UNION AND HAD THIS UNBELIEVABLE ARRAY OF BIG

THIS UNBELIEVABLE ARRAY OF BIG SPENDING PROGRAMS DIDN’T KNOW

SPENDING PROGRAMS DIDN’T KNOW HOW MUCH THEY WOULD COST AND IT

HOW MUCH THEY WOULD COST AND IT DIDN’T MATTER.

DIDN’T MATTER. A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WORRY THAT

A LOT OF DEMOCRATS WORRY THAT THAT IS THE KIND OF PERSON WHO

THAT IS THE KIND OF PERSON WHO IS GOING TO ALIENATE THE

IS GOING TO ALIENATE THE SUBURBANITES WHO VOTED IN 2018

SUBURBANITES WHO VOTED IN 2018 AFTER VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP,

AFTER VOTING FOR DONALD TRUMP, THEY ARE AFRAID HE’S GOING TO

THEY ARE AFRAID HE’S GOING TO SEND THEM BACK IN THE REPUBLICAN

SEND THEM BACK IN THE REPUBLICAN COLUMN AND I THINK THEY ARE

COLUMN AND I THINK THEY ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THIS.

ABSOLUTELY RIGHT ON THIS. IF THERE IS AN ADVANTAGE DONALD

IF THERE IS AN ADVANTAGE DONALD TRUMP HAS, THE LEFT-WING THE

TRUMP HAS, THE LEFT-WING THE DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS THE EASIER

DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS THE EASIER IT IS TO MAKE A DISCIPLINED CASE

IT IS TO MAKE A DISCIPLINED CASE TO THE SUBURBANITES WHICH YOU

TO THE SUBURBANITES WHICH YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE THE WAY I HANDLE

MIGHT NOT LIKE THE WAY I HANDLE MYSELF, YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE MY

MYSELF, YOU MIGHT NOT LIKE MY POLICIES, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE

POLICIES, YOU ACKNOWLEDGE THE ECONOMY IS GOOD BUT PREFER NOT

ECONOMY IS GOOD BUT PREFER NOT TO VOTE FOR ME BUT TAKE A CLOSE