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>>> WELCOME BACK TO "HARDBALL."
>>> WELCOME BACK TO "HARDBALL." YOU REMEMBER FROM THE LONGEST
YOU REMEMBER FROM THE LONGEST TIME WHEN YOU POLL THE QUESTION
TIME WHEN YOU POLL THE QUESTION OF IMPEACHMENT IT REALLY WASN’T
OF IMPEACHMENT IT REALLY WASN’T MOVING, IT WASN’T BUDGING.
MOVING, IT WASN’T BUDGING. A LOT OF THIS WAS BACK DURING
A LOT OF THIS WAS BACK DURING THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, THE
THE MUELLER INVESTIGATION, THE RUSSIA PROBE.
RUSSIA PROBE. YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE
YOU MIGHT HAVE SOMEWHERE IN THE 30s, YOU MIGHT HAVE ON A GOOD
30s, YOU MIGHT HAVE ON A GOOD DAY FOR DEMOCRATS GET TO LOW 40s
DAY FOR DEMOCRATS GET TO LOW 40s IN TERMS OF FINDING SUPPORT IN
IN TERMS OF FINDING SUPPORT IN TERMS OF IMPEACHING THE
TERMS OF IMPEACHING THE PRESIDENT.
PRESIDENT. IT HAS STARTED TO CHANGE THOUGH
IT HAS STARTED TO CHANGE THOUGH SINCE THE UKRAINE SITUATION CAME
SINCE THE UKRAINE SITUATION CAME TO LIGHT AND SINCE HOUSE
TO LIGHT AND SINCE HOUSE DEMOCRATS ANNOUNCED THEY WERE
DEMOCRATS ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING FORWARD WITH AN
GOING FORWARD WITH AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, AND TODAY
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY, AND TODAY WE HAVE THREE NEW POLLS THAT
WE HAVE THREE NEW POLLS THAT CAME OUT.
CAME OUT. THE QUINNIPIAC, "THE WASHINGTON
THE QUINNIPIAC, "THE WASHINGTON POST" AND OUR VERY OWN NBC NEWS
POST" AND OUR VERY OWN NBC NEWS WALL STREET GERM POLL, THREE NEW
WALL STREET GERM POLL, THREE NEW POLLS THAT COME OUT AND TODAY
POLLS THAT COME OUT AND TODAY SHOW JUST HOW MUCH THE GROUND
SHOW JUST HOW MUCH THE GROUND HAS SHIFTED WHEN IT COMES TO
HAS SHIFTED WHEN IT COMES TO IMPEACHMENT.
IMPEACHMENT. LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT I MEAN.
LET ME SHOW YOU WHAT I MEAN. REMEMBER TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS
REMEMBER TWO DIFFERENT QUESTIONS THAT ARE BEING ASKED IN THESE
THAT ARE BEING ASKED IN THESE POLLS.
POLLS. THE FIRST QUESTION IS NOT
THE FIRST QUESTION IS NOT FULL-FLEDGED IMPEACHMENT.
FULL-FLEDGED IMPEACHMENT. THE FIRST QUESTION IS JUST THE
THE FIRST QUESTION IS JUST THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. DEMOCRATS SAY CONGRESS IS NOW,
DEMOCRATS SAY CONGRESS IS NOW, THE HOUSE IS NOW LAUNCHING AN
THE HOUSE IS NOW LAUNCHING AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. THE THREE NEW POLLS TODAY 53 IN
THE THREE NEW POLLS TODAY 53 IN THE QUINNIPIAC, 55 IN THE"THE WA
THE QUINNIPIAC, 55 IN THE"THE WA STREET JOURNAL" POLL AND 58 THE
STREET JOURNAL" POLL AND 58 THE HIGHEST NUMBER WE’VE SEEN YET
HIGHEST NUMBER WE’VE SEEN YET SUPPORTING THE IMPEACHMENT
SUPPORTING THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
INQUIRY. LOW 40s, HIGH 30s IN TERMS OF
LOW 40s, HIGH 30s IN TERMS OF OPPOSITION.
OPPOSITION. THIS IS PRETTY SOLID SUPPORT FOR
THIS IS PRETTY SOLID SUPPORT FOR THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND PUT
THE IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY AND PUT THIS IN BIGGER CONTEXT, OVER THE
THIS IN BIGGER CONTEXT, OVER THE LAST TWO WEEKS HERE’S ALL THE
LAST TWO WEEKS HERE’S ALL THE POLLS THAT HAVE COME OUT ABOUT
POLLS THAT HAVE COME OUT ABOUT AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY.
AN IMPEACHMENT INQUIRY. COUNT THEM UP, ONE, TWO, THREE,
COUNT THEM UP, ONE, TWO, THREE, FOUR, FIVE, SIX OF THOSE 8 ARE
FOUR, FIVE, SIX OF THOSE 8 ARE OUTRIGHT MAJORITY SUPPORT, AND
OUTRIGHT MAJORITY SUPPORT, AND OVER 50% AND THE OTHER TWO STILL
OVER 50% AND THE OTHER TWO STILL PLURALITY SUPPORT, 49%, 43%, AND
PLURALITY SUPPORT, 49%, 43%, AND IN ALL EIGHT POLLS THERE’S MORE
IN ALL EIGHT POLLS THERE’S MORE SUPPORT THAN OPPOSITION FOR THE
SUPPORT THAN OPPOSITION FOR THE INQUIRY AND IN 6 OF THE 8
INQUIRY AND IN 6 OF THE 8 THERE’S OUTRIGHT MAJORITY
THERE’S OUTRIGHT MAJORITY SUPPORT.
SUPPORT. SO DEMOCRATS IN TERMS OF TAKING
SO DEMOCRATS IN TERMS OF TAKING THAT STEP, THEY HAVE TO LIKE
THAT STEP, THEY HAVE TO LIKE WHAT THEY’RE SEEING IN TERM OF
WHAT THEY’RE SEEING IN TERM OF THE PUBLIC OPINION POLLING.
THE PUBLIC OPINION POLLING. TAKE A STEP FURTHER?
TAKE A STEP FURTHER? WHAT ABOUT OUTRIGHT IMPEACHMENT,
WHAT ABOUT OUTRIGHT IMPEACHMENT, AND THEN THE SENATE CONVICTS AND
AND THEN THE SENATE CONVICTS AND TRUMP IS REMOVED FROM OFFICE?
TRUMP IS REMOVED FROM OFFICE? AND THE THREE NEW POLLS THAT
AND THE THREE NEW POLLS THAT CAME OUT TODAY, IT IS A
CAME OUT TODAY, IT IS A DIFFERENT STORY.
DIFFERENT STORY. YOU SEE IN QUINNIPIAC, REMEMBER
YOU SEE IN QUINNIPIAC, REMEMBER OUTRIGHT SUPPORT FOR THE
OUTRIGHT SUPPORT FOR THE INQUIRY, OPPOSITION BY A 49%,
INQUIRY, OPPOSITION BY A 49%, 45% MARGIN TO IMPEACHIC AND
45% MARGIN TO IMPEACHIC AND REMOVING TRUMP.
REMOVING TRUMP. IN OUR OWN POLL OPPOSITION BY A
IN OUR OWN POLL OPPOSITION BY A 49%, 43% MARGIN AND 49%, 44% AND
49%, 43% MARGIN AND 49%, 44% AND CERTAINLY LESS THAN THERE WAS IN
CERTAINLY LESS THAN THERE WAS IN TERMS OF SUPPORT FOR THE
TERMS OF SUPPORT FOR THE INQUIRY.
INQUIRY. SO MUCH MORE SUPPORT FOR
SO MUCH MORE SUPPORT FOR ININQUIRY.
ININQUIRY. THE QUESTION OF ACTUALLY
THE QUESTION OF ACTUALLY IMPEACHING AND REMOVING, THAT
IMPEACHING AND REMOVING, THAT GETS TO BE A LOT MORE CONTESTED
GETS TO BE A LOT MORE CONTESTED IN TERMS OF PUBLIC OPINION.
IN TERMS OF PUBLIC OPINION. PARTISAN DIVIDE, HERE DEMOCRATIC
PARTISAN DIVIDE, HERE DEMOCRATIC STRONG SUPPORT ACROSS THE BOARD,
STRONG SUPPORT ACROSS THE BOARD, THIS IS THE NUMBER, THOUGH,
THIS IS THE NUMBER, THOUGH, WE’RE LOOKING AT IN EVERY ONE OF
WE’RE LOOKING AT IN EVERY ONE OF THESE POLLS THAT COMES OUT
THESE POLLS THAT COMES OUT THERE, AND ONLY 46% OF
THERE, AND ONLY 46% OF REPUBLICANS SUPPORT IMPEACHABLE
REPUBLICANS SUPPORT IMPEACHABLE AND REMOVING TRUMP.
AND REMOVING TRUMP. THAT’S THE NUMBER TRUMP AND HIS
THAT’S THE NUMBER TRUMP AND HIS ALLIES WANT TO KEEP SEEING.
ALLIES WANT TO KEEP SEEING. THEY THINK THAT KEEPS REPUBLICAN
THEY THINK THAT KEEPS REPUBLICAN NUMBERS IN LINE.
NUMBERS IN LINE. ON THE OTHER END, "THE
ON THE OTHER END, "THE WASHINGTON POST" POLL, THAT
WASHINGTON POST" POLL, THAT NUMBER WAS 18%.
NUMBER WAS 18%. RIGHT NOW THAT LOOKS LIKE AN OUT
RIGHT NOW THAT LOOKS LIKE AN OUT LIAR.
LIAR. IF THAT BECOMES THE NORM, IF
IF THAT BECOMES THE NORM, IF THAT NUMBER OR HIGHER BECOMES
THAT NUMBER OR HIGHER BECOMES THE NORM IN SUBSEQUENT POLLING,
THE NORM IN SUBSEQUENT POLLING, THAT MIGHT START TO MAKE THE
THAT MIGHT START TO MAKE THE WHITE HOUSE NERVOUS, THEY DON’T
WHITE HOUSE NERVOUS, THEY DON’T WANT TO SEE ANY DISSENSION WHEN
WANT TO SEE ANY DISSENSION WHEN IT COMES TO REPUBLICANS ON THIS,