TALKED ABOUT THE VOTERS HE STILL NEEDS TO WIN OVER AND HIS

NEEDS TO WIN OVER AND HIS RIVALS’ RECENT ATTACKS.

RIVALS’ RECENT ATTACKS. WHAT DOES A WIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE

WHAT DOES A WIN IN NEW HAMPSHIRE MEAN TO YOU?

MEAN TO YOU? IS IT LIFE OR DEATH?

IS IT LIFE OR DEATH? >> IT’S CERTAINLY IMPORTANT FOR

>> IT’S CERTAINLY IMPORTANT FOR US TO DO WELL.

US TO DO WELL. JUST LIKE IOWA WAS, THOUGH THIS

JUST LIKE IOWA WAS, THOUGH THIS IS A VERY DIFFERENT STATE IN

IS A VERY DIFFERENT STATE IN MANY WAYS.

MANY WAYS. >> Reporter: YOU’VE BEEN TALKING

>> Reporter: YOU’VE BEEN TALKING ABOUT IMPROVING YOUR NUMBERS

ABOUT IMPROVING YOUR NUMBERS WITH THE BLACK E LEKLECTORATE.

WITH THE BLACK E LEKLECTORATE. BUT SO FAR, IT HASN’T PAID ANY

BUT SO FAR, IT HASN’T PAID ANY DIVIDENDS.

DIVIDENDS. CAN YOU SHOW ANY PROGRESS IN

CAN YOU SHOW ANY PROGRESS IN THAT REGARD?

THAT REGARD? >> ABSOLUTE RYLY.

>> ABSOLUTE RYLY. VOTERS OF COLOR WHO ARE

VOTERS OF COLOR WHO ARE LASER-FOCUSED ON DEFEATING THIS

LASER-FOCUSED ON DEFEATING THIS PRESIDENT, WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU

PRESIDENT, WANT TO KNOW THAT YOU CAN ACTUALLY WIN.

CAN ACTUALLY WIN. THE PROCESS OF PROVING THAT HAS

THE PROCESS OF PROVING THAT HAS ONLY BEEN UNDER WAY FOR THE LAST

ONLY BEEN UNDER WAY FOR THE LAST FEW DAYS AFTER CAMPAIGNING,

FEW DAYS AFTER CAMPAIGNING, PROPOSING, TALKING AND THAT’S

PROPOSING, TALKING AND THAT’S GIVING US THE LOOK WE NEED, AS

GIVING US THE LOOK WE NEED, AS WE WILL TRAVEL DIRECTLY TO

WE WILL TRAVEL DIRECTLY TO STATES LIKE NEVADA, SOUTH

STATES LIKE NEVADA, SOUTH CAROLINA AND THE SUPER TUESDAY

CAROLINA AND THE SUPER TUESDAY STATES THAT HAVE A LOT OF RACIAL

STATES THAT HAVE A LOT OF RACIAL DIVERSITY AND WE CAN MAKE THAT

DIVERSITY AND WE CAN MAKE THAT CASE EYE-TO-EYE.

CASE EYE-TO-EYE. >> OUR NBC NEWS NATIONAL POLL

>> OUR NBC NEWS NATIONAL POLL SHOWED YOUR SUPPORT WITH

SHOWED YOUR SUPPORT WITH AFRICAN-AMERICANS DROPPING.

AFRICAN-AMERICANS DROPPING. WHETHER IT WAS AS 3% NOW IT’S AT

WHETHER IT WAS AS 3% NOW IT’S AT 0%.

0%. >> AND SOME POLLS SHOW THE

>> AND SOME POLLS SHOW THE REVERSE.

REVERSE. >> I KNOW YOU DON’T LOVE POLLS.

>> I KNOW YOU DON’T LOVE POLLS. BUT LET ME GIVE YOU ONE OTHER.

BUT LET ME GIVE YOU ONE OTHER. AND THERE’S A NEW POLL SHOWING

AND THERE’S A NEW POLL SHOWING MICHAEL BLOOMBERG GETTING 22% OF

MICHAEL BLOOMBERG GETTING 22% OF THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE.

THE AFRICAN-AMERICAN VOTE. AND HE’S NEW ON THE SCENE.

AND HE’S NEW ON THE SCENE. AND YOU GOT 4%.

AND YOU GOT 4%. TO YOUR ARGUMENT THAT BLACK

TO YOUR ARGUMENT THAT BLACK VOTERS WANT TO SEE SOMEONE WHO

VOTERS WANT TO SEE SOMEONE WHO IS A WINNER, HOW COME IT’S NOT

IS A WINNER, HOW COME IT’S NOT SHOWING UP FOR YOU YET, IN

SHOWING UP FOR YOU YET, IN EFFORT?

EFFORT? >> I DON’T HAVE BILLIONS OF

>> I DON’T HAVE BILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PUT ON THE AIR WAVES.

DOLLARS TO PUT ON THE AIR WAVES. WE HAVE TO EARN EVERY VOTE GOING

WE HAVE TO EARN EVERY VOTE GOING THROUGH THE PROCESS, BEGINNING

THROUGH THE PROCESS, BEGINNING IN THE EARLY STATES, WHERE YOU

IN THE EARLY STATES, WHERE YOU SHOW VERSUS TELL.

SHOW VERSUS TELL. >> YOU’VE BEEN A SUCCESSFUL

>> YOU’VE BEEN A SUCCESSFUL FUND-RAISER.

FUND-RAISER. >> UH-HUH.

>> UH-HUH. >> YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND.

>> YOU HAVE MONEY TO SPEND. >> AND WE’RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE

>> AND WE’RE TRYING TO MAKE SURE WE SUCCEED IN IOWA AND

WE SUCCEED IN IOWA AND NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND THEN, ON TO

NEW HAMPSHIRE, AND THEN, ON TO SOUTH CAROLINA.

SOUTH CAROLINA. >> LET’S TALK ABOUT JOE BIDEN.

>> LET’S TALK ABOUT JOE BIDEN. HE PUT OUT AN AD THAT WAS PRETTY

HE PUT OUT AN AD THAT WAS PRETTY SNARKY.

SNARKY. HE SEEMS HE IS TAKING SHOTS AT

HE SEEMS HE IS TAKING SHOTS AT YOUR RECORD OF MAYOR AND

YOUR RECORD OF MAYOR AND COMPARING IT TO HIS RECORD AS

COMPARING IT TO HIS RECORD AS VICE PRESIDENT.

VICE PRESIDENT. >> UNDER THREAT UNDER A NUCLEAR

>> UNDER THREAT UNDER A NUCLEAR IRAN, JOE BIDEN HELPED TO

IRAN, JOE BIDEN HELPED TO NEGOTIATE THE IRAN DEAL.

NEGOTIATE THE IRAN DEAL. AND IN FEAR OF MISSING PETS,

AND IN FEAR OF MISSING PETS, BUTTIGIEG PUT LICENSES ON PET

BUTTIGIEG PUT LICENSES ON PET CHIP SCANNERS.

CHIP SCANNERS. >> TO BE BLUNT ABOUT IT, HE’S

>> TO BE BLUNT ABOUT IT, HE’S SAYING YOU DON’T HAVE RELATIVE

SAYING YOU DON’T HAVE RELATIVE EXPERIENCE.

EXPERIENCE. >> IF YOU’RE OUT FOR THE MOST

>> IF YOU’RE OUT FOR THE MOST YEARS SPENT IN THE WASHINGTON

YEARS SPENT IN THE WASHINGTON ESTABLISHMENT.

ESTABLISHMENT. I WILL NOT BE YOUR CAPPED DATEND

I WILL NOT BE YOUR CAPPED DATEND I THINK WHAT AMERICANS ARE

I THINK WHAT AMERICANS ARE LOOKING FOR IS A DIFFERENT

LOOKING FOR IS A DIFFERENT PERSPECTIVE, TO CHANGE WHAT’S

PERSPECTIVE, TO CHANGE WHAT’S GOING ON IN WASHINGTON BEFORE

GOING ON IN WASHINGTON BEFORE IT’S TOO LATE.

IT’S TOO LATE. >> SENATOR KLOBUCHAR SAID WE

>> SENATOR KLOBUCHAR SAID WE DON’T NEED A POLITICAL NEWCOMER.

DON’T NEED A POLITICAL NEWCOMER. THE ARGUMENT YOU’RE MAKING WAS

THE ARGUMENT YOU’RE MAKING WAS ONE OF DONALD TRUMP.

ONE OF DONALD TRUMP. HE WAS NEW TO POLITICS AND AN

HE WAS NEW TO POLITICS AND AN OUTSIDER TO WASHINGTON.

OUTSIDER TO WASHINGTON. >> THE PROBLEM WITH DONALD TRUMP

>> THE PROBLEM WITH DONALD TRUMP IS NOT THAT HE’S A NEWCOMER.

IS NOT THAT HE’S A NEWCOMER. THE PROBLEM WITH DONALD TRUMP IS

THE PROBLEM WITH DONALD TRUMP IS THAT HE’S DONALD TRUMP.

THAT HE’S DONALD TRUMP. I’M NOT A STRANGER TO UNIFORM OR

I’M NOT A STRANGER TO UNIFORM OR OFFICE.

OFFICE. I’M NOT A STRANGER TO

I’M NOT A STRANGER TO GOVERNMENT.

GOVERNMENT. >> YOU LOOK AT BERNIE SANDERS.

>> YOU LOOK AT BERNIE SANDERS. IS THIS SOMEONE THAT CAN WIN?

IS THIS SOMEONE THAT CAN WIN? >> I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY

>> I THINK IT WOULD BE VERY DIFFICULT.

DIFFICULT. AND NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE

AND NOT JUST BECAUSE OF THE LABELS.

LABELS. IT’S BECAUSE OF THE APPROACH.

IT’S BECAUSE OF THE APPROACH. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT HE’S

WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT HE’S PROPOSING IN TERMS OF THE DOUBLE

PROPOSING IN TERMS OF THE DOUBLE AND WHAT HE’S PUT FORWARD AND

AND WHAT HE’S PUT FORWARD AND HOW TO PAY FOR THEM.

HOW TO PAY FOR THEM. THERE’S A $25 TRILLION HOLE TO

THERE’S A $25 TRILLION HOLE TO PAY FOR EVERYTHING HE’S PUT

PAY FOR EVERYTHING HE’S PUT FORWARD.

FORWARD. >> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO BERNIE

>> WHAT DO YOU SAY TO BERNIE SANDERS WHEN HE SAYS YOU’RE IN

SANDERS WHEN HE SAYS YOU’RE IN THE POCKET OF BILLIONAIRES?

THE POCKET OF BILLIONAIRES? >> THAT’S JUST WRONG.

>> THAT’S JUST WRONG. WE HAVE TO INVITE EVERYBODY WE

WE HAVE TO INVITE EVERYBODY WE CAN TO HELP DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP.

CAN TO HELP DEFEAT DONALD TRUMP. >> THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT IN THE

>> THE PROGRESSIVE LEFT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY TALKING ABOUT

DEMOCRATIC PARTY TALKING ABOUT DEFICITS, IS NOT IN FASHION.

DEFICITS, IS NOT IN FASHION. THEY THINK THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE

THEY THINK THAT REPUBLICANS HAVE CO-OPTED THE POLICY DEBATES.

CO-OPTED THE POLICY DEBATES. SO, YOU REALLY STUCK YOUR NECK

SO, YOU REALLY STUCK YOUR NECK OUT THERE.

OUT THERE. IS THAT SOMETHING YOU PLAN TO

IS THAT SOMETHING YOU PLAN TO CONTINUE TO DO?

CONTINUE TO DO? IS THE DEFICIT OF MAJOR CONCERN

IS THE DEFICIT OF MAJOR CONCERN TO YOU?

TO YOU? >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT

I THINK WE HAVE TO TAKE THAT BACK.

BACK. IF YOU LOOK AT MY LIFETIME, IT’S

IF YOU LOOK AT MY LIFETIME, IT’S ONLY BEEN DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS

ONLY BEEN DEMOCRATIC PRESIDENTS THAT’S DONE SOMETHING ABOUT THE

THAT’S DONE SOMETHING ABOUT THE DEFICIT.

DEFICIT. BUT MY PARTY IS ALLERGIC TO

BUT MY PARTY IS ALLERGIC TO TALKING ABOUT IT OR FOCUSING ON

TALKING ABOUT IT OR FOCUSING ON IT.

IT. BUT YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP

BUT YOU HAVE DONALD TRUMP CREATING A TRILLION-DOLLAR

CREATING A TRILLION-DOLLAR DEFICIT AND DOING IT FOR TAX

DEFICIT AND DOING IT FOR TAX CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY.

CUTS FOR THE WEALTHY. THE BIGGER THAT GETS, THE HARDER

THE BIGGER THAT GETS, THE HARDER IT IS TO FUND THE PROGRAMS WE

IT IS TO FUND THE PROGRAMS WE BELIEVE IN.

BELIEVE IN. >> Reporter: WHILE THE FORMER

>> Reporter: WHILE THE FORMER MAYOR HAS TAKEN AIM AT THE

MAYOR HAS TAKEN AIM AT THE PRESIDENT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL,

PRESIDENT ON THE CAMPAIGN TRAIL, HE’S MOSTLY ESCAPED ANY

HE’S MOSTLY ESCAPED ANY COUNTERATTACK.

COUNTERATTACK. >> BIDEN LIKES TO SAY, THE

>> BIDEN LIKES TO SAY, THE PRESIDENT GOES AFTER HIM BECAUSE

PRESIDENT GOES AFTER HIM BECAUSE HE’S THE ONE THAT HE WORRIES

HE’S THE ONE THAT HE WORRIES ABOUT MOST.

ABOUT MOST. HE DOESN’T GO AFTER YOU.

HE DOESN’T GO AFTER YOU. >> I DON’T THINK HE DOESN’T KNOW

>> I DON’T THINK HE DOESN’T KNOW WHAT TO DO WITH ME.

WHAT TO DO WITH ME. THEY DO THE SAME THING.

THEY DO THE SAME THING. HE’S GOING TO FIND A