>>> WELCOME BACK TO "HARDBALL." MAYOR PETE, THIS IS WHAT WE’VE

MAYOR PETE, THIS IS WHAT WE’VE ALL BEEN WAITING FOR ON OUR

ALL BEEN WAITING FOR ON OUR PROGRAM RIGHT NOW.

PROGRAM RIGHT NOW. THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME

THIS IS NOT THE FIRST TIME YOU’VE BEEN ON "HARDBALL" AT A

YOU’VE BEEN ON "HARDBALL" AT A LIVE EVENT.

LIVE EVENT. IN FACT, MANY YEARS AGO YOU

IN FACT, MANY YEARS AGO YOU ASKED A QUESTION OF A

ASKED A QUESTION OF A PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO

PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE WHO VISITED YOUR COLLEGE, HARVARD.

VISITED YOUR COLLEGE, HARVARD. HERE YOU WERE BACK IN 2003

HERE YOU WERE BACK IN 2003 ASKING DICK GEPHARDT ABOUT YOUNG

ASKING DICK GEPHARDT ABOUT YOUNG VOTERS.

VOTERS. >> CONGRESSMAN, WHY ARE YOU THE

>> CONGRESSMAN, WHY ARE YOU THE ONLY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE NOT

ONLY PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE NOT ATTENDING TOMORROW’S YOUTH

ATTENDING TOMORROW’S YOUTH ORIENTED ROCK THE VOTE CAMPAIGN

ORIENTED ROCK THE VOTE CAMPAIGN AND DO YOU THINK YOUNG VOTES

AND DO YOU THINK YOUNG VOTES MATTER?

MATTER? >> THEY MATTER A LOT.

>> THEY MATTER A LOT. I’VE GOT A PRESET MEETING IN

I’VE GOT A PRESET MEETING IN IOWA, SO I’M GOING TO BE IN IOWA

IOWA, SO I’M GOING TO BE IN IOWA TOMORROW NIGHT.

TOMORROW NIGHT. I TALK TO YOUNG PEOPLE

I TALK TO YOUNG PEOPLE EVERYWHERE I AM.

EVERYWHERE I AM. I’VE GOT LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE ON

I’VE GOT LOTS OF YOUNG PEOPLE ON MY CAMPAIGN.

MY CAMPAIGN. MAYBE I OUGHT TO SAY THIS NOW,

MAYBE I OUGHT TO SAY THIS NOW, WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, JACK

WHEN I WAS IN COLLEGE, JACK KENNEDY WAS PRESIDENT AND I WAS

KENNEDY WAS PRESIDENT AND I WAS MOVED WHEN HE SAID TO YOUNG

MOVED WHEN HE SAID TO YOUNG PEOPLE LIKE ME, GET INVOLVED IN

PEOPLE LIKE ME, GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS, GIVE PART OF YOUR LIFE

POLITICS, GIVE PART OF YOUR LIFE TO POLITICS, SO I JUST WANT TO

TO POLITICS, SO I JUST WANT TO SAY TO ALL OF YOU HERE, GET

SAY TO ALL OF YOU HERE, GET INVOLVED IN PUBLIC LIFE, GIVE

INVOLVED IN PUBLIC LIFE, GIVE BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY, DON’T JUST

BACK TO YOUR COUNTRY, DON’T JUST TAKE FROM IT AND GET INVOLVED IN

TAKE FROM IT AND GET INVOLVED IN THIS CAMPAIGN.

THIS CAMPAIGN. IF IT’S NOT FOR ME, GET BEHIND

IF IT’S NOT FOR ME, GET BEHIND SOMEBODY AND GET OUT THERE AND

SOMEBODY AND GET OUT THERE AND WORK TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY A

WORK TO MAKE THIS COUNTRY A BETTER PLACE.

BETTER PLACE. YOU CAN DO THIS.

YOU CAN DO THIS. >> YOU HAVEN’T AGED A YEAR.

>> YOU HAVEN’T AGED A YEAR. LOOK AT THIS GUY.

LOOK AT THIS GUY. SO WAS THAT THE STIMULATION THAT

SO WAS THAT THE STIMULATION THAT YOU NEEDED TO MAKE A MOVE FOR

YOU NEEDED TO MAKE A MOVE FOR PUBLIC LIFE?

PUBLIC LIFE? >> FIRST OF ALL, I’M A LOT MORE

>> FIRST OF ALL, I’M A LOT MORE SYMPATHETIC TO SCHEDULING -- I

SYMPATHETIC TO SCHEDULING -- I WAS PRETTY HARD ON HIM.

WAS PRETTY HARD ON HIM. I FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT NOW.

I FEEL BAD ABOUT THAT NOW. WOW.

WOW. HOW DID YOU EVEN FIND THAT?

HOW DID YOU EVEN FIND THAT? >> WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION NOT

>> WE HAVE ONE MORE QUESTION NOT FROM THE AUDIENCE, IT’S A REMOTE

FROM THE AUDIENCE, IT’S A REMOTE QUESTION.

QUESTION. SIR, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR

SIR, DO YOU HAVE A QUESTION FOR THE MAYOR?

THE MAYOR? DICK GEPHARDT.

DICK GEPHARDT. >> HEY, MAYOR PETE, YOU REALLY

>> HEY, MAYOR PETE, YOU REALLY TOOK ME SERIOUSLY, DIDN’T YOU?

TOOK ME SERIOUSLY, DIDN’T YOU? >> HOW IS HE DOING?

>> HOW IS HE DOING? HOW DO YOU THINK HE’S DOING AS A

HOW DO YOU THINK HE’S DOING AS A CANDIDATE?

CANDIDATE? >> GOOD FOR YOU.

>> GOOD FOR YOU. >> HOW DO YOU THINK?

>> HOW DO YOU THINK? >> HE’S DOING GREAT.

>> HE’S DOING GREAT. SO HERE’S MY QUESTION, MAYOR

SO HERE’S MY QUESTION, MAYOR PETE.

PETE. SO I GET ASKED ALL THE TIME BY

SO I GET ASKED ALL THE TIME BY PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WHAT

PEOPLE ALL OVER THE COUNTRY WHAT ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR

ABOUT THE FUTURE OF OUR DEMOCRACY, OF AMERICA?

DEMOCRACY, OF AMERICA? AND MY ANSWER IS VERY SIMPLE,

AND MY ANSWER IS VERY SIMPLE, I’VE ALWAYS BEEN OPTIMISTIC

I’VE ALWAYS BEEN OPTIMISTIC ABOUT AMERICA BECAUSE THE PEOPLE

ABOUT AMERICA BECAUSE THE PEOPLE ARE GOOD AND THEY’RE GOOD

ARE GOOD AND THEY’RE GOOD CITIZENS.

CITIZENS. YOU’RE OUT THERE NOW MEETING

YOU’RE OUT THERE NOW MEETING THOUSANDS OF THEM.

THOUSANDS OF THEM. AM I STILL RIGHT?

AM I STILL RIGHT? >> YEAH.

>> YEAH. THAT’S MY EXPERIENCE.

THAT’S MY EXPERIENCE. >> DICK GEPHARDT IS NOW A

>> DICK GEPHARDT IS NOW A CALIFORNIA VOTER.

CALIFORNIA VOTER. >> UH-OH.

>> UH-OH. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. >> HE’S A RESIDENT AND VOTING

>> HE’S A RESIDENT AND VOTING RESIDENT OF SANTA ROSA.

RESIDENT OF SANTA ROSA. >> GOT TO GET ON HIS GOOD SIDE.

>> GOT TO GET ON HIS GOOD SIDE. THAT’S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE.

THAT’S BEEN MY EXPERIENCE. LOOK, PEOPLE JUST WANT TO KNOW

LOOK, PEOPLE JUST WANT TO KNOW THAT THEY’RE GOING TO BE OKAY,

THAT THEY’RE GOING TO BE OKAY, BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN HAVE

BUT, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE CAN HAVE GOOD AND BAD THINGS CALLED OUT

GOOD AND BAD THINGS CALLED OUT FROM WITHIN US.

FROM WITHIN US. WE’RE ALL CAPABLE OF GOOD AND

WE’RE ALL CAPABLE OF GOOD AND BAD THINGS.

BAD THINGS. JUST ASK SOMEBODY YOU LOVE.

JUST ASK SOMEBODY YOU LOVE. AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE

AND, YOU KNOW, PEOPLE INDIVIDUALLY AND ALSO

INDIVIDUALLY AND ALSO COLLECTIVELY, I THINK WE BECOME

COLLECTIVELY, I THINK WE BECOME WORSE WHEN WE’RE NOT SECURE.

WORSE WHEN WE’RE NOT SECURE. AND PART OF WHAT’S HAPPENING

AND PART OF WHAT’S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN A WORLD WHERE WE’VE

RIGHT NOW IN A WORLD WHERE WE’VE GOT EVERYTHING FROM THE RISE OF

GOT EVERYTHING FROM THE RISE OF CHINA TO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE

CHINA TO ARTIFICIAL INTELLIGENCE AND AUTOMATION AND THE ECONOMY’S

AND AUTOMATION AND THE ECONOMY’S CHANGING IS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN

CHANGING IS PEOPLE HAVE BEEN MADE LESS SECURE AND IT MAKES IT

MADE LESS SECURE AND IT MAKES IT POSSIBLE FOR A CYNICAL LEADER TO

POSSIBLE FOR A CYNICAL LEADER TO DRAW OUT THE WORST OF US.

DRAW OUT THE WORST OF US. >> RIGHT.

>> RIGHT. >> BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT ONE

>> BUT I ALSO BELIEVE THAT ONE OF THE BEST REASONS TO GET

OF THE BEST REASONS TO GET INVOLVED IN POLITICS, AS I FELT

INVOLVED IN POLITICS, AS I FELT CALLED TO DO WHEN I WAS A

CALLED TO DO WHEN I WAS A STUDENT BY PEOPLE LIKE SPEAKER

STUDENT BY PEOPLE LIKE SPEAKER GEPHARDT, IS THAT YOU CAN ALSO

GEPHARDT, IS THAT YOU CAN ALSO USE THE TOOLS, THE SKILLS THAT

USE THE TOOLS, THE SKILLS THAT YOU LEARN AS AN ELECTED LEADER

YOU LEARN AS AN ELECTED LEADER TO DRAW OUT THE BEST IN PEOPLE.

TO DRAW OUT THE BEST IN PEOPLE. AND I THINK THAT, EVEN MORE THAN

AND I THINK THAT, EVEN MORE THAN POLICY AND ADMINISTRATION IS THE

POLICY AND ADMINISTRATION IS THE THING WE’RE MISSING MOST IN THE

THING WE’RE MISSING MOST IN THE WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW.

WHITE HOUSE RIGHT NOW. >> GOING BACK TO DICK GEPHARDT,

>> GOING BACK TO DICK GEPHARDT, WE HAVE HIM ON THE PHONE.

WE HAVE HIM ON THE PHONE. DICK GEPHARDT, YOU WOULD HAVE

DICK GEPHARDT, YOU WOULD HAVE BEEN A GREAT PRESIDENT.

BEEN A GREAT PRESIDENT. I THINK YOU KNOW I BELIEVE THAT.

I THINK YOU KNOW I BELIEVE THAT. DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE TO THIS

DO YOU HAVE ANY ADVICE TO THIS YOUNG FELLA, 37 YEARS OLD,

YOUNG FELLA, 37 YEARS OLD, RUNNING HARD WITH 20-PLUS

RUNNING HARD WITH 20-PLUS RIVALS.

RIVALS. HOW DOES HE GET AHEAD OF ALL OF

HOW DOES HE GET AHEAD OF ALL OF THOSE GUYS AND WOMEN?

THOSE GUYS AND WOMEN? >> KEEP DOING -- JUST KEEP DOING

>> KEEP DOING -- JUST KEEP DOING WHAT YOU’RE DOING.

WHAT YOU’RE DOING. WORK HARD EVERY DAY.

WORK HARD EVERY DAY. IT’S A BIG JOB BUT YOU’RE DOING

IT’S A BIG JOB BUT YOU’RE DOING A GREAT JOB OF BEING OUT THERE

A GREAT JOB OF BEING OUT THERE TALKING TO PEOPLE AND LISTENING

TALKING TO PEOPLE AND LISTENING TO PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE MOST

TO PEOPLE, WHICH IS THE MOST IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO.

IMPORTANT THING YOU CAN DO. YOU’RE DOING GREAT.

YOU’RE DOING GREAT. JUST KEEP ON GOING.

JUST KEEP ON GOING. I’M PROUD OF YOU AND ALL THE

I’M PROUD OF YOU AND ALL THE OTHER CANDIDATES.

OTHER CANDIDATES. WE’RE GOING TO WIN THIS THING.

WE’RE GOING TO WIN THIS THING. >> BY THE WAY, THAT’S HOW DICK

>> BY THE WAY, THAT’S HOW DICK GEPHARDT GOT AHEAD.

GEPHARDT GOT AHEAD. I WATCHED HIS CAREER.

I WATCHED HIS CAREER. THANK YOU, DICK GEPHARDT, FROM