STICK TO ECONOMICS. VERY PRO ROE V. WADE, LEAVE IT

VERY PRO ROE V. WADE, LEAVE IT ALONE, JUST LEAVE IT ALONE.

ALONE, JUST LEAVE IT ALONE. COMMON SENSE.

COMMON SENSE. >> AND PENNSYLVANIA COULD BE

>> AND PENNSYLVANIA COULD BE QUITE A BATTLE GROUND.

QUITE A BATTLE GROUND. >> I SAID IT BEFORE, AS TIM

>> I SAID IT BEFORE, AS TIM RUSSERT SAID IN 2000, IT WAS

RUSSERT SAID IN 2000, IT WAS ABOUT FLORIDA, FLORIDA, FLORIDA.

ABOUT FLORIDA, FLORIDA, FLORIDA. THIS YEAR IT’S GOING -- OR 200

THIS YEAR IT’S GOING -- OR 200 IT’S GOING TO BE PENNSYLVANIA,

IT’S GOING TO BE PENNSYLVANIA, PENNSYLVANIA, PENNSYLVANIA.

PENNSYLVANIA, PENNSYLVANIA. AND ONE OF THE I THINK MOST

AND ONE OF THE I THINK MOST IMPORTANT THINGS THAT JOE BIDEN

IMPORTANT THINGS THAT JOE BIDEN BRINGS TO THE TABLE IS THE FACT

BRINGS TO THE TABLE IS THE FACT THAT HE WOULD WIN AND HE IS

THAT HE WOULD WIN AND HE IS WINNING NOW IN POLLS, THE

WINNING NOW IN POLLS, THE SCRANTON MEDIA MARKET IS A

SCRANTON MEDIA MARKET IS A MARKET THAT DONALD TRUMP WON BY

MARKET THAT DONALD TRUMP WON BY DOUBLE DIGITS.

DOUBLE DIGITS. THAT CHANGES THE WHOLE DYNAMIC.

THAT CHANGES THE WHOLE DYNAMIC. CHRIS, PEOPLE WHEN THEY LOOK

CHRIS, PEOPLE WHEN THEY LOOK BACK AT 2016, THEY OVERLOOK THE

BACK AT 2016, THEY OVERLOOK THE FACT THAT HILL HLARY CLINTON TOO

FACT THAT HILL HLARY CLINTON TOO WHAT SHE NEEDED OUT OF

WHAT SHE NEEDED OUT OF PHILADELPHIA, ABOUT 420,000

PHILADELPHIA, ABOUT 420,000 VOTES BUT SHE GOT WIPED OUT IN

VOTES BUT SHE GOT WIPED OUT IN THE RURAL AREAS AND IN SCRANTON.

THE RURAL AREAS AND IN SCRANTON. THAT’S WHAT JOE BIDEN BRINGS TO

THAT’S WHAT JOE BIDEN BRINGS TO THE TABLE.

THE TABLE. >> WHAT HIT ME YESTERDAY WAS JOE

>> WHAT HIT ME YESTERDAY WAS JOE P

P BIDEN, DR. BIDEN WAS FANTASTIC.

BIDEN, DR. BIDEN WAS FANTASTIC. IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, HER LOVE OF

IT WAS BEAUTIFUL, HER LOVE OF HER COUNTRY, HER BELIEF IN HER

HER COUNTRY, HER BELIEF IN HER HUSBAND AND WHAT HE CAN DO FOR

HUSBAND AND WHAT HE CAN DO FOR THIS COUNTRY.

THIS COUNTRY. BIDEN IS BASICALLY RUNNING FOR

BIDEN IS BASICALLY RUNNING FOR AMERICA AGAINST TRUMP.

AMERICA AGAINST TRUMP. HE’S TRYING TO RESCUE US FROM

HE’S TRYING TO RESCUE US FROM TRUMPISM AND TRUMP HIMSELF.

TRUMPISM AND TRUMP HIMSELF. I DON’T KNOW IF I’M GOING TO GO

I DON’T KNOW IF I’M GOING TO GO ALL THE WAY THROUGH TILL MILL

ALL THE WAY THROUGH TILL MILL MILLION AT THE

MILLION AT THE -- MILWAUKEE AT THE CONVENTION,

-- MILWAUKEE AT THE CONVENTION, I DON’T KNOW.

I DON’T KNOW. THERE’S ALWAYS A FRONT-RUNNER

THERE’S ALWAYS A FRONT-RUNNER AND A MAIN CHALLENGER.

AND A MAIN CHALLENGER. BUT HIS EMOTION IS PATRIOTIC,

BUT HIS EMOTION IS PATRIOTIC, IT’S NOT ANGER.

IT’S NOT ANGER. RIGHT NOW UNFORTUNATELY IT IS

RIGHT NOW UNFORTUNATELY IT IS ABOUT ANGER.

ABOUT ANGER. LISTENED TO BERNIE SANDERS

LISTENED TO BERNIE SANDERS YESTERDAY ON "MEET THE PRESS."

YESTERDAY ON "MEET THE PRESS." IT WAS ALL ANGER.

IT WAS ALL ANGER. HE WAS ANGRY AT ED RENDELL,

HE WAS ANGRY AT ED RENDELL, ANGRY AT EVERYBODY.

ANGRY AT EVERYBODY. BIDEN IS GOING TO HAVE TO GRAB

BIDEN IS GOING TO HAVE TO GRAB THAT ANGER AND TURN IT GIVEN

THAT ANGER AND TURN IT GIVEN TRUMP.

TRUMP. BLACK SUPPORT IS A BIG THING

BLACK SUPPORT IS A BIG THING WITH BIDEN.

WITH BIDEN. SUPPORT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN

SUPPORT OF AFRICAN-AMERICAN COMMUNITY LEADERS, I WAS AT THE

COMMUNITY LEADERS, I WAS AT THE AWARD LEADERS YESTERDAY IN

AWARD LEADERS YESTERDAY IN PHILLY, STANDING WITH THEM IN

PHILLY, STANDING WITH THEM IN THE CROWD, HE HAD A GOSPEL

THE CROWD, HE HAD A GOSPEL CHORUS CAME ON AND SANG, THE

CHORUS CAME ON AND SANG, THE LEAD SINGER THAT DID THE

LEAD SINGER THAT DID THE "STAR-SPANGLED BANNER" WAS AN

"STAR-SPANGLED BANNER" WAS AN AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN.

AFRICAN-AMERICAN WOMAN. I KNOW HE’S A WHITE GUY BUT HE

I KNOW HE’S A WHITE GUY BUT HE WANTS TO BE A CHAMPION OF THE

WANTS TO BE A CHAMPION OF THE BLACK COMMUNITY.

BLACK COMMUNITY. IRONICALLY, A 76-YEAR-OLD WHITE

IRONICALLY, A 76-YEAR-OLD WHITE GUY BUT THAT’S WHERE HE’S

GUY BUT THAT’S WHERE HE’S COMFORTABLE.

COMFORTABLE. >> YOU KNOW, MIKA, THAT’S ONE OF

>> YOU KNOW, MIKA, THAT’S ONE OF MAYOR PETE’S BIGGEST CHALLENGES

MAYOR PETE’S BIGGEST CHALLENGES IS THE FACT THAT JOE BIDEN RIGHT

IS THE FACT THAT JOE BIDEN RIGHT NOW IS DOING EXTRAORDINARILY

NOW IS DOING EXTRAORDINARILY WELL AMONG BLACK VOTERS.

WELL AMONG BLACK VOTERS. I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT

I WANT TO FOLLOW UP ON WHAT CHRIS SAID ABOUT DR. JILL BIDEN.

CHRIS SAID ABOUT DR. JILL BIDEN. ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME

ONE OF THE THINGS THAT STRUCK ME IN TALKING WITH HER AND YOU IN

IN TALKING WITH HER AND YOU IN PHILADELPHIA WAS ALSO WHAT

PHILADELPHIA WAS ALSO WHAT STRUCK ME AND I KNOW MIKE

STRUCK ME AND I KNOW MIKE BARNICLE CAN ATTEST TO THIS AS

BARNICLE CAN ATTEST TO THIS AS WELL AS ANYBODY, JUST HOW --

WELL AS ANYBODY, JUST HOW -- WHAT A CONTRAST THEY ARE TO THE

WHAT A CONTRAST THEY ARE TO THE TRUMPS AND THE TRUMP FAMILY WHO

TRUMPS AND THE TRUMP FAMILY WHO SEEM TO WANT TO COME OFF AS SOME

SEEM TO WANT TO COME OFF AS SOME EUROPEAN PLUTOCRATIC RULING

EUROPEAN PLUTOCRATIC RULING FAMILY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM.

FAMILY WHEN YOU LOOK AT THEM. THAT IS THEIR POST.

THAT IS THEIR POST. I’VE GOT TO SAY WITH BOTH JILL

I’VE GOT TO SAY WITH BOTH JILL BIDEN AND JOE BIDEN, THEY ARE

BIDEN AND JOE BIDEN, THEY ARE ABOUT AS NORMAL AND AMERICANA AS

ABOUT AS NORMAL AND AMERICANA AS THEY CAN BE.

THEY CAN BE. I REMEMBER SITTING ON THE BACK

I REMEMBER SITTING ON THE BACK PORCH WITH JOE BIDEN IN

PORCH WITH JOE BIDEN IN WILMINGTON TALKING.

WILMINGTON TALKING. I WAS DOWN THERE, HE HAD JUST

I WAS DOWN THERE, HE HAD JUST FINISHED DOING "MEET THE PRESS,"

FINISHED DOING "MEET THE PRESS," MUST HAVE BEEN 2009, 2010.

MUST HAVE BEEN 2009, 2010. WE LOOKED AROUND AND THERE WERE

WE LOOKED AROUND AND THERE WERE SECRET SERVICE MEN AND AND HE

SECRET SERVICE MEN AND AND HE POINTED TO THIS MANY AND HE SAID

POINTED TO THIS MANY AND HE SAID LOOK AT THEM, LOOK AT THEM, WHAT

LOOK AT THEM, LOOK AT THEM, WHAT ARE THEY DOING?

ARE THEY DOING? CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING SO MUCH OF

CAN YOU IMAGINE BEING SO MUCH OF A LOSER THAT YOU WOULD TRY TO

A LOSER THAT YOU WOULD TRY TO KILL A VICE PRESIDENT?

KILL A VICE PRESIDENT? I MEAN, COME ON, MAN!

I MEAN, COME ON, MAN! AND

AND BUT HE WAS ALWAYS MAKE FUN OF

BUT HE WAS ALWAYS MAKE FUN OF HIMSELF, POKING FUN AT HIMSELF,

HIMSELF, POKING FUN AT HIMSELF, PUTTING OTHERS AT EASE.

PUTTING OTHERS AT EASE. THEY ARE, AND I SAY THIS IN THE

THEY ARE, AND I SAY THIS IN THE MOST COMPLEMENTARY WAY IN THE

MOST COMPLEMENTARY WAY IN THE AGE OF INSANITY AND CRAZINESS

AGE OF INSANITY AND CRAZINESS AND HYPERBOLE, THEY ARE ABOUT AS

AND HYPERBOLE, THEY ARE ABOUT AS NORMAL AS IT GETS.

NORMAL AS IT GETS. AND YOU SAID THAT JILL BIDEN

AND YOU SAID THAT JILL BIDEN SEEMED TALKING TO HER BECAUSE

SEEMED TALKING TO HER BECAUSE YOU’VE GROWN UP AROUND PEOPLE

YOU’VE GROWN UP AROUND PEOPLE AFFECTED BY WASHINGTON, D.C. AND

AFFECTED BY WASHINGTON, D.C. AND THE POWER, THAT IT WAS AS IF SHE

THE POWER, THAT IT WAS AS IF SHE HAD NEVER BEEN TO WASHINGTON

HAD NEVER BEEN TO WASHINGTON BEFORE, THAT SHE WAS JUST A

BEFORE, THAT SHE WAS JUST A COMMUNITY COLLEGE PROFESSOR.

COMMUNITY COLLEGE PROFESSOR. >> IT’S ACTUALLY STUNNING WHEN

>> IT’S ACTUALLY STUNNING WHEN YOU THINK ABOUT THE LIFETIME IN

YOU THINK ABOUT THE LIFETIME IN THE WASHINGTON WORLD THAT THEY

THE WASHINGTON WORLD THAT THEY HAVE SPENT TOGETHER BECAUSE HE

HAVE SPENT TOGETHER BECAUSE HE HAS SERVED FOR DECADES AND HE

HAS SERVED FOR DECADES AND HE COMMUTED BACK AND FORTH AND THAT

COMMUTED BACK AND FORTH AND THAT TRAIN TRIP THERE AND BACK, THEY

TRAIN TRIP THERE AND BACK, THEY HAVE STAYED NORMAL, THEY HAVE

HAVE STAYED NORMAL, THEY HAVE STAYED NORMAL IN A SEA OF

STAYED NORMAL IN A SEA OF INSANITY IN THESE POLITICAL

INSANITY IN THESE POLITICAL TIMES AND, GET THIS, CORIN NENE,

TIMES AND, GET THIS, CORIN NENE, HAVE TO APPRECIATE THIS, THEY

HAVE TO APPRECIATE THIS, THEY WANT TO GO BACK.

WANT TO GO BACK. MOST PEOPLE, AND YOU CAN TALK

MOST PEOPLE, AND YOU CAN TALK ABOUT THE OBAMAS, THEY’RE SO

ABOUT THE OBAMAS, THEY’RE SO GLAD TO BE GONE.

GLAD TO BE GONE. THEY ARE OUT OF THERE.

THEY ARE OUT OF THERE. IT IS SO INSIDIOUS, IT’S SUCH A

IT IS SO INSIDIOUS, IT’S SUCH A DIFFICULT LIFE WITH PEOPLE

DIFFICULT LIFE WITH PEOPLE PULLING AT YOU AND GRABBING AT

PULLING AT YOU AND GRABBING AT YOU AND GETTING UNDER YOUR SKIN

YOU AND GETTING UNDER YOUR SKIN AND TRYING TO BASICALLY RIP

AND TRYING TO BASICALLY RIP APART YOUR WORLD EVERY SINGLE

APART YOUR WORLD EVERY SINGLE DAY IN WASHINGTON AND YET THE

DAY IN WASHINGTON AND YET THE BIDENS WANT TO GO BACK AND SERVE

BIDENS WANT TO GO BACK AND SERVE THIS COUNTRY.

THIS COUNTRY. I THINK IT SAYS A LOT.

I THINK IT SAYS A LOT. I WOULDN’T WANT TO GO BACK.

I WOULDN’T WANT TO GO BACK. >> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU.

>> I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. I THINK I SAID THIS ON THE SHOW,

I THINK I SAID THIS ON THE SHOW, I GOT TO KNOW BOTH VICE

I GOT TO KNOW BOTH VICE PRESIDENT BIDEN AND DR. BIDEN

PRESIDENT BIDEN AND DR. BIDEN WHEN I WORKED IN THE OBAMA

WHEN I WORKED IN THE OBAMA ADMINISTRATION.

ADMINISTRATION. I TRAVELED WITH THEM A WHOLE

I TRAVELED WITH THEM A WHOLE LOT, AND WHEN WE WOULD GO TO

LOT, AND WHEN WE WOULD GO TO PENNSYLVANIA, HE WAS REALLY THE

PENNSYLVANIA, HE WAS REALLY THE THIRD SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA

THIRD SENATOR FROM PENNSYLVANIA AND THERE HE GOT A LOT OF LOVE

AND THERE HE GOT A LOT OF LOVE THERE.

THERE. HE GETS A LOT OF LOVE FROM

HE GETS A LOT OF LOVE FROM STATES LIKE THAT.

STATES LIKE THAT. THE TWO ARE PROBABLY TWO OF

THE TWO ARE PROBABLY TWO OF THE MOST NORMAL PEOPLE THAT YOU

THE MOST NORMAL PEOPLE THAT YOU WOULD EVER, EVER MEET.

WOULD EVER, EVER MEET. JUST FULL OF HEART.

JUST FULL OF HEART. >> AND YET, DAVID IGNATIUS, HE

>> AND YET, DAVID IGNATIUS, HE HAS FOREIGN POLICY FROM THOSE

HAS FOREIGN POLICY FROM THOSE DECADES OF SERIOUS.

DECADES OF SERIOUS. >> HE HAS FOREIGN POLICY

>> HE HAS FOREIGN POLICY EXPERIENCE.

EXPERIENCE. SOMETIMES HE’S SERIOUS TO A

SOMETIMES HE’S SERIOUS TO A FAULT.

FAULT. THE THING THAT I THINK IS SO

THE THING THAT I THINK IS SO INTERESTING IS THE FACT THAT

INTERESTING IS THE FACT THAT BIDEN HAS OPENED STRONG.

BIDEN HAS OPENED STRONG. WE ALL WONDERED WILL DO

WE ALL WONDERED WILL DO NOTHING --

NOTHING -- >> THAT WAS VERY FRENCH OF YOU

>> THAT WAS VERY FRENCH OF YOU WHAT YOU JUST DID.

WHAT YOU JUST DID. >> BUT IT MEANS ANYONE WHO BEATS

>> BUT IT MEANS ANYONE WHO BEATS JOE BIDEN IN THE DEMOCRATIC

JOE BIDEN IN THE DEMOCRATIC FIELD IS GOING TO BE A REALLY

FIELD IS GOING TO BE A REALLY GOOD CANDIDATE.

GOOD CANDIDATE. THAT’S WHAT WE KNOW.

THAT’S WHAT WE KNOW. WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A STRONG

WE’RE GOING TO HAVE A STRONG LEADER AND THAT WHOEVER BEATS

LEADER AND THAT WHOEVER BEATS HIM IS GOING TO SHOW QUALITIES

HIM IS GOING TO SHOW QUALITIES THAT THE VOTERS REALLY LIKE AND

THAT THE VOTERS REALLY LIKE AND HAVE THAT ENERGY.

HAVE THAT ENERGY. >> MIKE BARNICLE.

>> MIKE BARNICLE. >> AS WE JUST WATCHED THE VICE

>> AS WE JUST WATCHED THE VICE PRESIDENT AND TALK ABOUT HIS

PRESIDENT AND TALK ABOUT HIS WIFE JILL BIDEN, THEY CLEARLY

WIFE JILL BIDEN, THEY CLEARLY ARE A RELATABLE COUPLE.

ARE A RELATABLE COUPLE. EVERYONE WHO HAS ENCOUNTERED

EVERYONE WHO HAS ENCOUNTERED THEM KNOWS THAT BUT THERE’S

THEM KNOWS THAT BUT THERE’S CERTAINLY ELSE TO THE BIDENS

CERTAINLY ELSE TO THE BIDENS THAT THEY BRING TO THE COUNTRY

THAT THEY BRING TO THE COUNTRY THAT I’M WONDERING IF THE WHITE

THAT I’M WONDERING IF THE WHITE HOUSE IS COGNIZANT OF OR THINKS

HOUSE IS COGNIZANT OF OR THINKS ABOUT AND DWELLS UPON?

ABOUT AND DWELLS UPON? IT IS THIS, BOTH BIDENS, BUT

IT IS THIS, BOTH BIDENS, BUT MORE SO THE THE MORE VISIBLE

MORE SO THE THE MORE VISIBLE BIDEN, THE CANDIDATE HIMSELF,

BIDEN, THE CANDIDATE HIMSELF, THEY UNDERSTAND LOSS, THEY