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CLINICAL REPORT A MARCIA KRAMER
DEMANDED ANSWERS.
Reporter: IT MAY TURN OUT TO
BE THE BURNING QUESTION OF THE
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN. JUST WHAT
IS THE DEFINITION OF A WALL ON
THE MEXICAN BORDER?
IN 2006 NEW YORK SENATOR CHUCK
SCHUMER I NOW ONE OF THE
LEADERS OF THE ANTI-WALL FORCES,
VOTED TO BUILD 700 MILES OF
OFFENSE. THREE YEARS LATER HE
SAID PROGRESS AND ENDING
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION WAS DEFINED
BY --
CONSTRUCTION OF A 630 MILE
BORDER FENCE THAT CREATE A
SIGNIFICANT BARRIER TO ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION ON OUR SOUTHERN
LAND BORDER.
Reporter: HE SLAMMED PEOPLE
WHO CALLED ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
UNDOCUMENTED WORKERS.
ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION IS WRONG
. PLAIN AND SIMPLE.
UNTIL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE
CONVINCED THAT WE WILL STOP
FUTURE FLOWS OF ILLEGAL
IMMIGRATION WE WILL MAKE NO
PROGRESS. ON DEALING WITH THE
MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS
WHO ARE HERE NOW.
Reporter: WHY NOT A WALL,
SENATOR SCHUMER?
I DEMANDED ANSWERS.
IN 2006 YOU SUPPORTED THE
SECURE FENCE ACT. IN 2009 YOU
SAID YOU WOULD SPEND COMING YOU
WOULD PAY FOR 630 MILES OF
BORDER FENCE.
IN 2013 SECURE BORDER SECURITY,
ECONOMIC OPPORTUNITY.
ALL OF THESE THINGS SUPPORTING
A WALL.
NONE OF THEM HAVE WALL IN
IT.
0. THAT'S WHY NO ONE WAS EVER
BUILT.
THERE IS NOT A NICKEL OF WALL UP
BECAUSE --
WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE
BETWEEN A WALL AND DEFENSE?
A LOT.
A FENCE WORKS.
YOU ASK THE EXPERTS.
A BIG CONCRETE WALL IS
EXPENSIVE AND DOESN'T WORK.
WHEREAS, DRONES, YOU DON'T JUST
NEED FENCING, YOU NEED DRONES,
HELICOPTERS AND YOU NEED ROADS.
THE AGENTS CAN'T GET PEOPLE
CROSSING THE BORDER BECAUSE
THEY CAN'T GET THERE.
Reporter: IN ADDITION TO
FENCING SCHUMER ALSO ARGUED THE
PRESIDENT DOESN'T NEED FIVE
ALIEN DOLLARS FOR A WALL
BECAUSE HE HAS YET TO SPEND THE
$1.7 BILLION FOR BORDER
SECURITY THEY ALREADY GAVE HIM.
THE PRESIDENT HAS BEEN $341
MILLION ACCORDING TO CUSTOMS
AND BORDER PATROL FIGURES.
I WONDERED IF SCHUMER'S
OPPOSITION WAS JUST A TAD
POLITICAL?
IF BARACK OBAMA HAD ASKED FOR
FIVE IF BARACK OBAMA HAD ASKED
FOR $5 MILLION FOR A WALL WOULD
YOU HAVE GIVEN IT TO HIM?
FIRST, HE WOULDN'T HAVE MADE
SUCH A DUMB PROPOSAL THAT
NOBODY SUPPORTS.
Reporter: SAME QUESTION TO
CONGRESSMAN PETER KING, A
REPUBLICAN AGAINST THE
GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN .
IF BARACK OBAMA HAD ASKED
DEMOCRATS FOR FIVE DEMOCRATS
FOR $5 BILLION TO BUILD THE WALL
WITH A HAVE GIVEN IT TO HIM?
THEY WOULD BE DOWN THERE WITH
THE BRICKS AND CEMENT PUTTING
IT RIGHT UP.
Reporter: I ASKED SCHUMER
ABOUT THE PRESIDENT'S
INSISTENCE THAT HE CHANGE HIS
POSITION ON BORDER SECURITY.
WHAT YOU SAY TO HIM WHEN HE
SAID YOU FLIP-FLOPPED?
I HAVE BEEN CONSISTENT FROM
2006 NO WHEN HE WOULD TALKED
ABOUT A WALL IN 2006, 2009, 13.
Reporter: IN 2009 HE ALSO
SAID --
WE MUST DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN
TO GAIN CONTROL OF OUR BORDERS
AS SOON AS POSSIBLE.
Reporter: IN 2019 THAT MEANS
NO WALL.
CONGRESSMAN HSING SAYS SHE