>> Martha: BREAKING RIGHT NOW,

>> Martha: BREAKING RIGHT NOW, PRESIDENT TRUMP CLEANING HOUSE

PRESIDENT TRUMP CLEANING HOUSE AFTER BEING ACQUITTED THIS WEEK

AFTER BEING ACQUITTED THIS WEEK ON BOTH ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT.

ON BOTH ARTICLES OF IMPEACHMENT. THE PRESIDENT APPEARS TO HAVE

THE PRESIDENT APPEARS TO HAVE DECIDED TO LET GO SEVERAL OF THE

DECIDED TO LET GO SEVERAL OF THE PEOPLE INVOLVED.

PEOPLE INVOLVED. INCLUDING LIEUTENANT COLONEL

INCLUDING LIEUTENANT COLONEL ALEXANDER OFFENDED MEN, THE

ALEXANDER OFFENDED MEN, THE DEMOCRATS STAR WITNESS WAS

DEMOCRATS STAR WITNESS WAS ESCORTED WHITE HOUSE

ESCORTED WHITE HOUSE GROUNDS TODAY.

GROUNDS TODAY. HIS TWIN BROTHER WHO WORKED AT

HIS TWIN BROTHER WHO WORKED AT THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL AS

THE NATIONAL SECURITY COUNCIL AS WELL ALSO OUT OF A JOB TONIGHT.

WELL ALSO OUT OF A JOB TONIGHT. AND JUST MOMENTS AGO, WORRIED

AND JUST MOMENTS AGO, WORRIED THAT U.S. AMBASSADOR GORDON

THAT U.S. AMBASSADOR GORDON SONDLAND REVEALED THAT HE’S BEEN

SONDLAND REVEALED THAT HE’S BEEN RECALLED FROM HIS POST AS

RECALLED FROM HIS POST AS AMBASSADOR TO THE E.U.

AMBASSADOR TO THE E.U. REMEMBER HIS ROLE IN ALL OF

REMEMBER HIS ROLE IN ALL OF THIS?

THIS? >> I KNOW MEMBERS OF THIS

>> I KNOW MEMBERS OF THIS COMMITTEE FREQUENTLY FRAME THESE

COMMITTEE FREQUENTLY FRAME THESE COLLOCATED ISSUES IN THE FORM OF

COLLOCATED ISSUES IN THE FORM OF A SIMPLE QUESTION.

A SIMPLE QUESTION. WAS THERE A QUID PRO QUO?

WAS THERE A QUID PRO QUO? AS I TESTIFIED PREVIOUSLY WITH

AS I TESTIFIED PREVIOUSLY WITH REGARD TO THE REQUESTED

REGARD TO THE REQUESTED WHITE HOUSE CALL IN THE

WHITE HOUSE CALL IN THE WHITE HOUSE MEETING, THE ANSWER

WHITE HOUSE MEETING, THE ANSWER IS YES.

IS YES. >> Martha: JOINED ME NOW IS

>> Martha: JOINED ME NOW IS REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND MATT

REPUBLICAN CONGRESS AND MATT GAETZ.

GAETZ. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE. I MEAN, THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE

I MEAN, THAT WAS DEFINITELY ONE OF THE BIGGEST MOMENTS WHEN

OF THE BIGGEST MOMENTS WHEN GORDON SONDLAND SAID, YES, WHEN

GORDON SONDLAND SAID, YES, WHEN HE SAW THE EXCHANGE IN THE

HE SAW THE EXCHANGE IN THE MEETING OF THE INVESTIGATION OF

MEETING OF THE INVESTIGATION OF THE QUID PRO QUO.

THE QUID PRO QUO. TONIGHT, HE’S OUT OF A JOB.

TONIGHT, HE’S OUT OF A JOB. YOUR THOUGHTS?

YOUR THOUGHTS? >> HE SAW IT THAT WAY.

>> HE SAW IT THAT WAY. THAT WAS LARGELY A PRESUMPTION

THAT WAS LARGELY A PRESUMPTION BUT IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATIONS

BUT IMPEACHMENT INVESTIGATIONS UNDOUBTEDLY CREATE SECOND AND

UNDOUBTEDLY CREATE SECOND AND THIRD ORDER EFFECTS, WE ALL KNOW

THIRD ORDER EFFECTS, WE ALL KNOW A LOT MORE ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN IF

A LOT MORE ABOUT HUNTER BIDEN IF NANCY PELOSI AND ADAM SCHIFF DID

NANCY PELOSI AND ADAM SCHIFF DID NOT START THIS INVESTIGATION.

NOT START THIS INVESTIGATION. WE KNOW MORE ABOUT GORDON

WE KNOW MORE ABOUT GORDON SONDLAND AND WE LEARNED MORE

SONDLAND AND WE LEARNED MORE ABOUT COLONEL VINDMAN.

ABOUT COLONEL VINDMAN. TIM MORRISON, WHO WAS A SENIOR

TIM MORRISON, WHO WAS A SENIOR OFFICIAL TO LIEUTENANT COLONEL

OFFICIAL TO LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN USED POOR JUDGMENT AND

VINDMAN USED POOR JUDGMENT AND COULD ENTRUST THE CONCLUSIONS HE

COULD ENTRUST THE CONCLUSIONS HE CAME TO.

CAME TO. THAT INFORMATION WAS TO A HIGHER

THAT INFORMATION WAS TO A HIGHER DEGREE BECAUSE OF IMPEACHMENT

DEGREE BECAUSE OF IMPEACHMENT AND IF YOU LOOK AT GORDON

AND IF YOU LOOK AT GORDON SONDLAND, NO ONE REALLY VIEWED

SONDLAND, NO ONE REALLY VIEWED HIM AS CENTRAL TO THE DELIVERY

HIM AS CENTRAL TO THE DELIVERY OF U.S. POLICY.

OF U.S. POLICY. I THINK WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO

I THINK WE WILL STILL BE ABLE TO GET BY IN THE DELIVERY OF

GET BY IN THE DELIVERY OF UNITED STATES FOREIGN POLICY

UNITED STATES FOREIGN POLICY ABSENT GORDON SONDLAND.

ABSENT GORDON SONDLAND. HE WAS VIEWED AS AN

HE WAS VIEWED AS AN INTER-METTLER AND HEARD PEOPLE

INTER-METTLER AND HEARD PEOPLE TALK ABOUT THE GORDON PROBLEM

TALK ABOUT THE GORDON PROBLEM WOULD EMERGE AS HE WAS OUTSIDE

WOULD EMERGE AS HE WAS OUTSIDE THE NORMAL WORK OF AN E.U.

THE NORMAL WORK OF AN E.U. AMBASSADOR.

AMBASSADOR. THE PRESIDENT HAS THE AUTHORITY

THE PRESIDENT HAS THE AUTHORITY TO REMOVE THESE FOLKS IF HE

TO REMOVE THESE FOLKS IF HE CHOOSES TO.

CHOOSES TO. >> THE REASON THEY SAID THAT,

>> THE REASON THEY SAID THAT, CONGRESSMAN, THEY WERE SURPRISED

CONGRESSMAN, THEY WERE SURPRISED HE WAS WORKING ON YOUR CRANE

HE WAS WORKING ON YOUR CRANE POLICY BECAUSE HE WAS THE

POLICY BECAUSE HE WAS THE AMBASSADOR TO THE E.U.

AMBASSADOR TO THE E.U. THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ASSIGNED TO

THE PEOPLE WHO WERE ASSIGNED TO THE UKRAINE ISSUE WANTED TO KNOW

THE UKRAINE ISSUE WANTED TO KNOW WHY GORDON SONDLAND WAS INVOLVED

WHY GORDON SONDLAND WAS INVOLVED IN IT AT ALL AND IT TURNED OUT,

IN IT AT ALL AND IT TURNED OUT, YOU KNOW, HE WAS WORKING WITH

YOU KNOW, HE WAS WORKING WITH RICK PERRY AND RUDY GIULIANI.

RICK PERRY AND RUDY GIULIANI. THAT’S WHY -- ISN’T THAT WHY

THAT’S WHY -- ISN’T THAT WHY THEY REFERRED TO AS THE GORDON

THEY REFERRED TO AS THE GORDON PROBLEM?

PROBLEM? >> WELL, RIGHT.

>> WELL, RIGHT. THERE WAS CONTINUED LACK OF

THERE WAS CONTINUED LACK OF CONFIDENCE IN HIS DIPLOMATIC

CONFIDENCE IN HIS DIPLOMATIC WORK THROUGHOUT THE DEPOSITIONS

WORK THROUGHOUT THE DEPOSITIONS AND HEARINGS.

AND HEARINGS. WHETHER THAT MEANT EXCEEDING THE

WHETHER THAT MEANT EXCEEDING THE SCOPE OF HIS AUTHORITY OR

SCOPE OF HIS AUTHORITY OR WHETHER IT MEANT JUST SORT OF

WHETHER IT MEANT JUST SORT OF THE BUNDLING OF ASSIGNMENTS, I

THE BUNDLING OF ASSIGNMENTS, I DO NOT THINK HE CAME OUT OF THE

DO NOT THINK HE CAME OUT OF THE IMPEACHMENT LOOKING LIKE SOME

IMPEACHMENT LOOKING LIKE SOME GREAT DIPLOMAT.

GREAT DIPLOMAT. I DO NOT THINK IT’S A SURPRISE

I DO NOT THINK IT’S A SURPRISE TO SEE THE PRESIDENT CHOOSE TO

TO SEE THE PRESIDENT CHOOSE TO MAKE A CHANGE THERE.

MAKE A CHANGE THERE. ALSO LIEUTENANT COLONEL

ALSO LIEUTENANT COLONEL LIEUTENANT COLONEL BENJAMIN.

LIEUTENANT COLONEL BENJAMIN. >> LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN’S

>> LIEUTENANT COLONEL VINDMAN’S LAWYER SAID THAT HE SADDENED NOT

LAWYER SAID THAT HE SADDENED NOT TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COUNTRY

TO BE ABLE TO SERVE THE COUNTRY ANYMORE.

ANYMORE. HERE’S A QUICK SOUND BITE TO

HERE’S A QUICK SOUND BITE TO REMIND EVERYBODY.

REMIND EVERYBODY. >> IT’S IMPROPER FOR THE

>> IT’S IMPROPER FOR THE PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES TO

PRESIDENT OF UNITED STATES TO DEMAND A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO

DEMAND A FOREIGN GOVERNMENT TO INVESTIGATE A U.S. CITIZEN AND

INVESTIGATE A U.S. CITIZEN AND OPPONENTS.

OPPONENTS. THERE WAS PROBABLY AN ELEMENT OF

THERE WAS PROBABLY AN ELEMENT OF SHOCK, MAY BE IN CERTAIN

SHOCK, MAY BE IN CERTAIN REGARDS.

REGARDS. MY WORST FEAR OF HOW THE UKRAINE

MY WORST FEAR OF HOW THE UKRAINE POLICY COULD PLAY OUT.

POLICY COULD PLAY OUT. >> Martha: AND A LOT OF PEOPLE

>> Martha: AND A LOT OF PEOPLE LOOKED AT THAT.

LOOKED AT THAT. PEOPLE TOOK A DIFFERENT WAYS.

PEOPLE TOOK A DIFFERENT WAYS. THEY HAD SOME PRETTY DEEP POLICY

THEY HAD SOME PRETTY DEEP POLICY DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF THE WAY

DIFFERENCES IN TERMS OF THE WAY THAT THINGS SHOULD BE CARRIED

THAT THINGS SHOULD BE CARRIED OUT WITH UKRAINE AND ALTHOUGH HE

OUT WITH UKRAINE AND ALTHOUGH HE EXPRESSED STATUS AT BEING PUSHED

EXPRESSED STATUS AT BEING PUSHED OUT OF THE POSITION TONIGHT, YOU

OUT OF THE POSITION TONIGHT, YOU WONDER WHY HE WOULD WORK FOR THE

WONDER WHY HE WOULD WORK FOR THE PRESIDENT IF HE HAS SUCH DEEP

PRESIDENT IF HE HAS SUCH DEEP DISAGREEMENTS WITH HIM.

DISAGREEMENTS WITH HIM. HE THOUGHT THE WAY HIS HANDLING

HE THOUGHT THE WAY HIS HANDLING WAS WRONG.

WAS WRONG. >> MANY ERUPTIONS THAT GAVE RISE

>> MANY ERUPTIONS THAT GAVE RISE TO THE IMPEACHMENT WERE ROOTED

TO THE IMPEACHMENT WERE ROOTED IN POLICY DISAGREEMENT.

IN POLICY DISAGREEMENT. DIFFERENT APPROACH FROM A

DIFFERENT APPROACH FROM A DIFFERENT STYLE, AT TIMES A

DIFFERENT STYLE, AT TIMES A DIFFERENT OUTCOME FOR VARIOUS

DIFFERENT OUTCOME FOR VARIOUS ELEMENTS OF THE UKRAINE POLICY.

ELEMENTS OF THE UKRAINE POLICY. I CAN’T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD

I CAN’T IMAGINE THAT WE WOULD OUTSIDE THE WORLD OF IMPEACHMENT

OUTSIDE THE WORLD OF IMPEACHMENT HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY,

HAVE THE OPPORTUNITY TO REALLY, I THINK OF MENTEES AT THOSE

I THINK OF MENTEES AT THOSE DIVISIONS MORE THAN IN THIS

DIVISIONS MORE THAN IN THIS IMPEACHMENT.

IMPEACHMENT. IN THIS WORLD, I THINK WE WERE

IN THIS WORLD, I THINK WE WERE ABLE TO SEE DISAGREEMENTS,

ABLE TO SEE DISAGREEMENTS, PERHAPS SOME DISCORD BETWEEN

PERHAPS SOME DISCORD BETWEEN LIEUTENANT COLONEL ADMIN AND

LIEUTENANT COLONEL ADMIN AND OTHERS AT THE NSC WHO HELD A

OTHERS AT THE NSC WHO HELD A DIFFERENT VIEW AND NOW WE ARE

DIFFERENT VIEW AND NOW WE ARE MOVING FORWARD.

MOVING FORWARD. THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES

THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CHANGES THERE.

THERE. VERY WELL MAY BE THE CHASE DOWN

VERY WELL MAY BE THE CHASE DOWN A CHANCE THAT VINDMAN WOULD BE

A CHANCE THAT VINDMAN WOULD BE OUT BEFORE IMPEACHMENT BUT

OUT BEFORE IMPEACHMENT BUT DURING IMPEACHMENT YOU DON’T

DURING IMPEACHMENT YOU DON’T WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE TO MAKE A

WANT TO MAKE A CHANGE TO MAKE A LIVING RETRIBUTION AND WITH A

LIVING RETRIBUTION AND WITH A LOT OF CHANGES AT THE NSC, IT’S

LOT OF CHANGES AT THE NSC, IT’S A LOT OF A BETTER CREW.

A LOT OF A BETTER CREW. >> Martha: THE NEW HEAD OF THE

>> Martha: THE NEW HEAD OF THE NSC, THE NATIONAL SECURITY

NSC, THE NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT, SAID

ADVISOR TO THE PRESIDENT, SAID DAYS AGO THAT HE WANTED TO THIN

DAYS AGO THAT HE WANTED TO THIN THE RANKS OF THE NSC

THE RANKS OF THE NSC DRAMATICALLY AND THERE IS LONG

DRAMATICALLY AND THERE IS LONG BEEN A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR

BEEN A QUESTION ABOUT WHETHER OR NOT EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE,

NOT EVERYBODY WHO WAS THERE, SOME OF THE HOLDOVERS WERE

SOME OF THE HOLDOVERS WERE SUPPORTIVE OF THE POLICY OF THE

SUPPORTIVE OF THE POLICY OF THE WHITE HOUSE, CORRECT?

WHITE HOUSE, CORRECT? >> THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF

>> THERE HAVE BEEN A LOT OF CONCERNS THAT THE NSC MAY HAVE

CONCERNS THAT THE NSC MAY HAVE EMANATED OTHER LEAKS.

EMANATED OTHER LEAKS. OBVIOUSLY NEVER SOMETHING YOU

OBVIOUSLY NEVER SOMETHING YOU ARE ALWAYS ABLE TO TRACK DOWN

ARE ALWAYS ABLE TO TRACK DOWN AND FULLY PROVEN EVIDENCE, BUT I

AND FULLY PROVEN EVIDENCE, BUT I THINK YOU WANT A PRESIDENT, AND

THINK YOU WANT A PRESIDENT, AND NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR TO

NATIONAL SECURITY ADVISOR TO HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN THE NSC

HAVE FULL CONFIDENCE IN THE NSC IF FRESHENING UP THAT TEAM GOING

IF FRESHENING UP THAT TEAM GOING INTO THE NEW POST IMPEACHMENT

INTO THE NEW POST IMPEACHMENT ERA IS HELPFUL TO THE COUNTRY,

ERA IS HELPFUL TO THE COUNTRY, I’M ALL FOR IT.

I’M ALL FOR IT. THE DELIVERY OF U.S. FOREIGN

THE DELIVERY OF U.S. FOREIGN POLICY IS GOING PRETTY WELL.

POLICY IS GOING PRETTY WELL. I’M SO PROUD OF THE PRESIDENT

I’M SO PROUD OF THE PRESIDENT TAKING OUT THE AL QAEDA LEADER

TAKING OUT THE AL QAEDA LEADER IN YEMEN.

IN YEMEN. THAT GROUP CLAIM THIS FOR

THAT GROUP CLAIM THIS FOR KILLING MIKE INTO