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CONTINUE TO COME AT IT FROM DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, BUT I
DIFFERENT DIRECTIONS, BUT I DON’T HAVE ANY DOUBT ABOUT THE
DON’T HAVE ANY DOUBT ABOUT THE SINCERITY OF THE GOALS.
SINCERITY OF THE GOALS. >> IN TERMS OF SENATOR
>> IN TERMS OF SENATOR SANDERS --
SANDERS -- >> UH-HUH.
>> UH-HUH. >> -- HE SAID THIS WEEK THAT
>> -- HE SAID THIS WEEK THAT HE’S SPOKEN YOU IN THE LAST FEW
HE’S SPOKEN YOU IN THE LAST FEW DAYS.
DAYS. >> HE HAS.
>> HE HAS. >> SO THAT ONE’S ACCURATE.
>> SO THAT ONE’S ACCURATE. >> UH-HUH.
>> UH-HUH. THAT’S RIGHT.
THAT’S RIGHT. >> THAT’S GOOD.
>> THAT’S GOOD. WHAT’S YOUR RELATIONSHIP LIKE
WHAT’S YOUR RELATIONSHIP LIKE WITH SENATOR SANDERS?
WITH SENATOR SANDERS? YOU OBVIOUSLY SHARE A LOT OF
YOU OBVIOUSLY SHARE A LOT OF IMPORTANT POLICY GOALS, BUT SOME
IMPORTANT POLICY GOALS, BUT SOME DIFFERENCES AND YOU’VE BEEN
DIFFERENCES AND YOU’VE BEEN COMPETITORS OVER THESE LAST FEW
COMPETITORS OVER THESE LAST FEW MONTHS.
MONTHS. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> WHAT’S YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH
>> WHAT’S YOUR RELATIONSHIP WITH HIM?
HIM? >> SO, BERNIE AND I HAVE BEEN
>> SO, BERNIE AND I HAVE BEEN FRIENDS FOR LONG, LONG TIME
FRIENDS FOR LONG, LONG TIME DATING BACK WAY BEFORE I EVER
DATING BACK WAY BEFORE I EVER GOT INVOLVED IN POLITICS, AND
GOT INVOLVED IN POLITICS, AND THROUGH THE HOUSING CRASH, IN
THROUGH THE HOUSING CRASH, IN PARTICULAR, KIND OF HERE WERE
PARTICULAR, KIND OF HERE WERE CENTRAL ISSUES WE WERE WORKING
CENTRAL ISSUES WE WERE WORKING ON.
ON. I CAME UP -- IN FACT, THE FIRST
I CAME UP -- IN FACT, THE FIRST TOWN HALLS I’VE EVER DONE WERE
TOWN HALLS I’VE EVER DONE WERE IN VERMONT, WERE FOR BERNIE
IN VERMONT, WERE FOR BERNIE SANDERS.
SANDERS. >> WOW.
>> WOW. >> AND BRUCE DROVE ME UP ON A
>> AND BRUCE DROVE ME UP ON A SATURDAY AND WE DID A COUPLE OF
SATURDAY AND WE DID A COUPLE OF TOWN HALLS, AND, BUT IT’S A SET
TOWN HALLS, AND, BUT IT’S A SET OF ISSUES WE’VE WORKED ON, BOTH
OF ISSUES WE’VE WORKED ON, BOTH OF US, FOR A VERY, VERY LONG
OF US, FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
TIME. >> THAT’S --
>> THAT’S -- >> I RESPECT THAT.
>> I RESPECT THAT. >> THAT IS USUALLY GROUNDS FOR
>> THAT IS USUALLY GROUNDS FOR MUTUAL TRUST OR AT LEAST MUTUAL
MUTUAL TRUST OR AT LEAST MUTUAL UNDERSTANDING WHEN YOU’VE HAD A
UNDERSTANDING WHEN YOU’VE HAD A RELATIONSHIP LIKE THAT.
RELATIONSHIP LIKE THAT. >> I SURE HOPE SO.
>> I SURE HOPE SO. YEAH.
YEAH. UH-HUH.
UH-HUH. >> ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED
>> ONE OF THE REASONS I WANTED TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT
TO ASK YOU ABOUT THAT RELATIONSHIP WITH SENATOR
RELATIONSHIP WITH SENATOR SANDERS IS SOMETHING I TALKED TO
SANDERS IS SOMETHING I TALKED TO HIM ABOUT LAST NIGHT WHEN I WAS
HIM ABOUT LAST NIGHT WHEN I WAS IN VERMONT AND THAT IS THERE
IN VERMONT AND THAT IS THERE HAVE BEEN SOME REALLY UNTOWARD
HAVE BEEN SOME REALLY UNTOWARD ATTACKS BY SENATOR SANDERS’
ATTACKS BY SENATOR SANDERS’ SUPPORTERS, NOT BY HIM, HIMSELF,
SUPPORTERS, NOT BY HIM, HIMSELF, AGAINST YOU, PARTICULARLY
AGAINST YOU, PARTICULARLY ONLINE.
ONLINE. HIS SUPPORTERS HAVE CALLED YOU A
HIS SUPPORTERS HAVE CALLED YOU A SNAKE.
SNAKE. THEY USED THE SNAKE EMOJI FOR
THEY USED THE SNAKE EMOJI FOR YOU.
YOU. THEY’VE CALLED YOU A TRAITOR.
THEY’VE CALLED YOU A TRAITOR. THEY TRIED TO ORGANIZE SOMEBODY
THEY TRIED TO ORGANIZE SOMEBODY TO PRIMARY YOU TO FORCE YOU OUT
TO PRIMARY YOU TO FORCE YOU OUT OF YOUR SENATE SEAT HERE IN
OF YOUR SENATE SEAT HERE IN MASSACHUSETTS.
MASSACHUSETTS. AND THE SENATOR SAID LAST NIGHT,
AND THE SENATOR SAID LAST NIGHT, HE RESPONDED, HE SAID, "I
HE RESPONDED, HE SAID, "I CONDEMNED THAT."
CONDEMNED THAT." AND HE’S DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM
AND HE’S DISTANCING HIMSELF FROM WHAT HIS SUPPORTERS HAVE DONE.
WHAT HIS SUPPORTERS HAVE DONE. I WANTED TO ASK IF -- IF THAT
I WANTED TO ASK IF -- IF THAT ROSE TO YOUR LEVEL OF
ROSE TO YOUR LEVEL OF CONSCIOUSNESS, IF YOU WERE AWARE
CONSCIOUSNESS, IF YOU WERE AWARE THAT WAS GOING ON, IF YOU HAVE
THAT WAS GOING ON, IF YOU HAVE ANY REACTION TO THAT OR TO HIS
ANY REACTION TO THAT OR TO HIS COMMENTS ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT.
COMMENTS ABOUT IT LAST NIGHT. >> YOU KNOW, IT’S -- IT’S NOT
>> YOU KNOW, IT’S -- IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT ME.
JUST ABOUT ME. I THINK THERE’S A REAL PROBLEM
I THINK THERE’S A REAL PROBLEM WITH THIS ONLINE BULLYING AND
WITH THIS ONLINE BULLYING AND SORT OF ORGANIZED NASTINESS, AND
SORT OF ORGANIZED NASTINESS, AND I’M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT WHO
I’M NOT JUST TALKING ABOUT WHO SAID MEAN THINGS.
SAID MEAN THINGS. I’M TALKING ABOUT SOME REALLY
I’M TALKING ABOUT SOME REALLY UGLY STUFF THAT WENT ON.
UGLY STUFF THAT WENT ON. YOU KNOW, IN THE -- OUT IN
YOU KNOW, IN THE -- OUT IN NEVADA WHEN THE UNITE HERE HAD
NEVADA WHEN THE UNITE HERE HAD PUT OUT AN ANALYSIS OF THE
PUT OUT AN ANALYSIS OF THE DIFFERENT CANDIDATES AND THEIR
DIFFERENT CANDIDATES AND THEIR VIEWS ON HEALTH CARE AND OTHER
VIEWS ON HEALTH CARE AND OTHER ISSUES AND SOME OF THE BERNIE
ISSUES AND SOME OF THE BERNIE SUPPORTERS ONLINE TOOK EXCEPTION
SUPPORTERS ONLINE TOOK EXCEPTION TO IT AND THEY DIDN’T JUST TAKE
TO IT AND THEY DIDN’T JUST TAKE EXCEPTION THAT WE DISAGREE, YOU
EXCEPTION THAT WE DISAGREE, YOU KNOW, OUTRAGEOUS TOWAY TO DO THI
KNOW, OUTRAGEOUS TOWAY TO DO THI WHICH ANYBODY CAN DO, THAT’S
WHICH ANYBODY CAN DO, THAT’S FINE.
FINE. YOU CAN BE CLEVER AND CAN FIND
YOU CAN BE CLEVER AND CAN FIND CLEVER WAYS TO BE KIND OF MEAN
CLEVER WAYS TO BE KIND OF MEAN SOMETIMES.
SOMETIMES. OKAY.
OKAY. I GET THAT PART, TOO.
I GET THAT PART, TOO. BUT THEY ACTUALLY PUBLISHED THE
BUT THEY ACTUALLY PUBLISHED THE PHONE NUMBERS AND HOME ADDRESSES
PHONE NUMBERS AND HOME ADDRESSES OF THE TWO WOMEN, THE EXECUTIVE
OF THE TWO WOMEN, THE EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR AND THE COMMUNICATIONS
DIRECTOR AND THE COMMUNICATIONS DIRECTOR, WOMEN OF COLOR,
DIRECTOR, WOMEN OF COLOR, IMMIGRANT WOMEN, AND REALLY PUT
IMMIGRANT WOMEN, AND REALLY PUT THEM IN FEAR FOR THEIR FAMILIES,
THEM IN FEAR FOR THEIR FAMILIES, OF -- THEY -- THESE ARE -- THESE
OF -- THEY -- THESE ARE -- THESE ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE
ARE NOT, YOU KNOW, THESE ARE TOUGH WOMEN.
TOUGH WOMEN. TOUGH WOMEN WHO’VE RUN LABOR
TOUGH WOMEN WHO’VE RUN LABOR ORGANIZING CAMPAIGNS AND REALLY
ORGANIZING CAMPAIGNS AND REALLY EARNED THEIR JOBS IN THEIR
EARNED THEIR JOBS IN THEIR UNION, I MEAN, THE HARD WAY.
UNION, I MEAN, THE HARD WAY. AND, YET, SAID FOR THE FIRST
AND, YET, SAID FOR THE FIRST TIME BECAUSE OF THIS ONSLAUGHT
TIME BECAUSE OF THIS ONSLAUGHT OF ONLINE THREATS THAT THEY FELT
OF ONLINE THREATS THAT THEY FELT REALLY UNDER ATTACK AND -- AND
REALLY UNDER ATTACK AND -- AND THAT WASN’T THE FIRST TIME IT
THAT WASN’T THE FIRST TIME IT HAPPENED.
HAPPENED. WORKING FAMILIES PARTY, TWO
WORKING FAMILIES PARTY, TWO WOMEN THERE, WOMEN OF COLOR, WHO
WOMEN THERE, WOMEN OF COLOR, WHO WERE ATTACKED RIGHT AFTER THEY
WERE ATTACKED RIGHT AFTER THEY ENDORSED ME.
ENDORSED ME. AND I THINK THIS FUNDAMENTAL
AND I THINK THIS FUNDAMENTAL QUESTION ABOUT WHAT GOES ON
QUESTION ABOUT WHAT GOES ON ONLINE AND WHERE THOSE LINES ARE
ONLINE AND WHERE THOSE LINES ARE AND HOW MUCH EACH OF US -- AND I
AND HOW MUCH EACH OF US -- AND I WANT TO SAY THIS FOR ALL OF THE
WANT TO SAY THIS FOR ALL OF THE CANDIDATES, BACK WHEN THERE WERE
CANDIDATES, BACK WHEN THERE WERE LOTS OF US -- WE ARE RESPONSIBLE
LOTS OF US -- WE ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO BE
FOR THE PEOPLE WHO CLAIM TO BE OUR SUPPORTERS AND DO REALLY
OUR SUPPORTERS AND DO REALLY THREATEN, UGLY, DANGEROUS THINGS
THREATEN, UGLY, DANGEROUS THINGS TO OTHER CANDIDATES.
TO OTHER CANDIDATES. >> AND IT’S A PARTICULARLY --
>> AND IT’S A PARTICULARLY -- IT’S A PARTICULAR PROBLEM WITH
IT’S A PARTICULAR PROBLEM WITH SANDERS’ SUPPORTERS.
SANDERS’ SUPPORTERS. >> IT IS.
>> IT IS. IT JUST IS.
IT JUST IS. JUST A FACTUAL QUESTION.
JUST A FACTUAL QUESTION. AND IT IS.
AND IT IS. AND THAT’S SOMETHING I THINK
AND THAT’S SOMETHING I THINK THAT -- THAT --
THAT -- THAT -- >> HAVE YOU EVER TALKED WITH
>> HAVE YOU EVER TALKED WITH SENATOR SANDERS ABOUT THAT?
SENATOR SANDERS ABOUT THAT? >> I HAVE.
>> I HAVE. >> WHAT WAS THAT CONVERSATION
>> WHAT WAS THAT CONVERSATION LIKE?
LIKE? >> IT WAS SHORT, BUT, YEAH,
>> IT WAS SHORT, BUT, YEAH, WE’VE TALKED ABOUT IT.
WE’VE TALKED ABOUT IT. BUT I THINK IT’S A REAL PROBLEM.
BUT I THINK IT’S A REAL PROBLEM. >> DOES HE NOT SHARE YOUR VIEW
>> DOES HE NOT SHARE YOUR VIEW THAT HE’S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE
THAT HE’S RESPONSIBLE FOR THE BEHAVIOR OF HIS SUPPORTERS?
BEHAVIOR OF HIS SUPPORTERS? >> YOU KNOW, I SHOULDN’T SPEAK
>> YOU KNOW, I SHOULDN’T SPEAK FOR HIM.
FOR HIM. IT’S SOMETHING HE SHOULD SPEAK
IT’S SOMETHING HE SHOULD SPEAK FOR HIMSELF ON, BUT I DO THINK
FOR HIMSELF ON, BUT I DO THINK IT’S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO
IT’S SOMETHING THAT WE NEED TO RECKON WITH IN OUR POLITICAL
RECKON WITH IN OUR POLITICAL DISCOURSE, IN PARTICULAR,
DISCOURSE, IN PARTICULAR, BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT POLITICS IS
BECAUSE THIS IS WHAT POLITICS IS ABOUT IS TO GET OUT AND PUT YOUR
ABOUT IS TO GET OUT AND PUT YOUR IDEAS OUT THERE.
IDEAS OUT THERE. PEOPLE CHOOSE SIDES.
PEOPLE CHOOSE SIDES. PEOPLE VOTE.
PEOPLE VOTE. PEOPLE SAY, I’M HOLDING A SIGN
PEOPLE SAY, I’M HOLDING A SIGN FOR HER, I’M HOLDING A SIGN FOR
FOR HER, I’M HOLDING A SIGN FOR HIM.
HIM. THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE DO, BUT
THAT IS PART OF WHAT WE DO, BUT WHAT UNDERLIES THAT IS A
WHAT UNDERLIES THAT IS A FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN DECENCY AND
FUNDAMENTAL HUMAN DECENCY AND RESPECT FER OOCHOR EACH OTHER AN
RESPECT FER OOCHOR EACH OTHER AN UNDERSTANDING THAT NOBODY TRIES
UNDERSTANDING THAT NOBODY TRIES TO PUT SOMEBODY’S FAMILY AT RISK
TO PUT SOMEBODY’S FAMILY AT RISK OR SOMEBODY PERSONALLY AT RISK
OR SOMEBODY PERSONALLY AT RISK BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE WITH YOU
BECAUSE THEY DISAGREE WITH YOU ON THE POLITICS OF IT, BECAUSE
ON THE POLITICS OF IT, BECAUSE THEY SEE THE POLICY DIFFERENT,
THEY SEE THE POLICY DIFFERENT, BECAUSE THEY DON’T SUPPORT YOUR
BECAUSE THEY DON’T SUPPORT YOUR CANDIDATE AND THEY SUPPORT SOME
CANDIDATE AND THEY SUPPORT SOME OTHER CANDIDATE.
OTHER CANDIDATE. NO.
NO. AND IF WE FOLLOW THAT SAME KIND
AND IF WE FOLLOW THAT SAME KIND OF POLITICS AND DIVISION THAT
OF POLITICS AND DIVISION THAT DONALD TRUMP FOLLOWS, THAT
DONALD TRUMP FOLLOWS, THAT NOTION OF -- HE DRAWS STRENGTH
NOTION OF -- HE DRAWS STRENGTH FROM TEARING PEOPLE APART, FROM
FROM TEARING PEOPLE APART, FROM DEMONIZING PEOPLE, FROM SAYING,
DEMONIZING PEOPLE, FROM SAYING, OH, THOSE ARE BAD PEOPLE AND
OH, THOSE ARE BAD PEOPLE AND THAT’S -- THAT’S KIND OF HOW
THAT’S -- THAT’S KIND OF HOW THEY DRAW THEIR STRENGTH.
THEY DRAW THEIR STRENGTH. IT’S NOT WHO I WANT TO BE AS A
IT’S NOT WHO I WANT TO BE AS A DEMOCRAT.
DEMOCRAT. IT’S NOT WHO I WANT TO BE AS AN
IT’S NOT WHO I WANT TO BE AS AN AMERICAN.
AMERICAN. AND TO THE EXTENT I HAVE ANY
AND TO THE EXTENT I HAVE ANY POWER TO CONTROL THAT, I DO WHAT
POWER TO CONTROL THAT, I DO WHAT I CAN AND I CALL ON OTHERS TO DO
I CAN AND I CALL ON OTHERS TO DO THE SAME AND I THINK WE HAVE TO
THE SAME AND I THINK WE HAVE TO HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY AROUND
HAVE SOME ACCOUNTABILITY AROUND THAT.
THAT. >> IF THAT IS A PERSISTENT
>> IF THAT IS A PERSISTENT PROBLEM IN THE MOVEMENT AROUND
PROBLEM IN THE MOVEMENT AROUND SENATOR SANDERS, THAT WAS A
SENATOR SANDERS, THAT WAS A PROBLEM THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE
PROBLEM THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE COMPLAINED ABOUT IN 2016 AROUND
COMPLAINED ABOUT IN 2016 AROUND HIS PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN.
HIS PRESIDENTIAL CAMPAIGN. ALL THE MORE SO THIS YEAR.
ALL THE MORE SO THIS YEAR. AND THE SENATOR, YOU KNOW, SAYS
AND THE SENATOR, YOU KNOW, SAYS THAT HE’S AGAINST IT AND SAYS
THAT HE’S AGAINST IT AND SAYS THAT HE’S CONDEMNED IT.
THAT HE’S CONDEMNED IT. I’VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT
I’VE TALKED TO HIM ABOUT IT DIRECTLY, BUT IF IT IS A
DIRECTLY, BUT IF IT IS A PERSISTENT PROBLEM AND
PERSISTENT PROBLEM AND THERE’S -- FOR WHATEVER REASON
THERE’S -- FOR WHATEVER REASON HE CAN’T CONTROL IT OR IT’S NOT
HE CAN’T CONTROL IT OR IT’S NOT BEING CONTROLLED BY HIM, IS
BEING CONTROLLED BY HIM, IS THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT THE
THERE SOMETHING ELSE THAT THE PARTY COULD DO ABOUT THAT?
PARTY COULD DO ABOUT THAT? I ASK BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT
I ASK BECAUSE I THINK THAT IT HAS AN ONGOING SCHISMATIC EFFECT
HAS AN ONGOING SCHISMATIC EFFECT IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY.
IN THE DEMOCRATIC PARTY. >> YEAH.
>> YEAH. >> I THINK IN 2016 IT MADE IT
>> I THINK IN 2016 IT MADE IT VERY HARD FOR THE POST-PRIMARY
VERY HARD FOR THE POST-PRIMARY GENERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN OF
GENERAL ELECTION CAMPAIGN OF HILLARY CLINTON TO GET ANYWHERE
HILLARY CLINTON TO GET ANYWHERE NEAR SUCCESS, AND I THINK IT’S
NEAR SUCCESS, AND I THINK IT’S GOING TO DO THE SAME THING
GOING TO DO THE SAME THING WHETHER OR NOT SENATOR SANDERS
WHETHER OR NOT SENATOR SANDERS IS THE NOMINEE THIS TIME.
IS THE NOMINEE THIS TIME. I SEE IT AS FACTIONALIST,
I SEE IT AS FACTIONALIST, SCHISMATIC AND INJURIOUS.
SCHISMATIC AND INJURIOUS. IF HE CAN’T FIX IT, I DON’T KNOW
IF HE CAN’T FIX IT, I DON’T KNOW IF THERE’S ANYBODY ELSE WHO CAN.
IF THERE’S ANYBODY ELSE WHO CAN. >> I THINK OF IT MORE AS HAS THE
>> I THINK OF IT MORE AS HAS THE TIME COME FOR US TO START
TIME COME FOR US TO START THINKING MORE CREATEIVELY ABOUT
THINKING MORE CREATEIVELY ABOUT HOW TO DO THIS?
HOW TO DO THIS? DO YOU SET UP SOMETHING, FOR
DO YOU SET UP SOMETHING, FOR EXAMPLE, FROM THE CAMPAIGN THAT
EXAMPLE, FROM THE CAMPAIGN THAT EVERY SINGLE DAY ANSWERS BACK TO
EVERY SINGLE DAY ANSWERS BACK TO THIS WITH THE -- THE AUTHORITY
THIS WITH THE -- THE AUTHORITY OF THAT PERSON’S CAMPAIGN AND
OF THAT PERSON’S CAMPAIGN AND SAYS, WE’RE NOT DOING THIS, I’M
SAYS, WE’RE NOT DOING THIS, I’M FLAGGING THESE.
FLAGGING THESE. WE DON’T LIKE THIS, WE DON’T
WE DON’T LIKE THIS, WE DON’T WANT THIS, WE DON’T WANT ANY
WANT THIS, WE DON’T WANT ANY PART OF THIS, WE CONDEMN IT, HOW
PART OF THIS, WE CONDEMN IT, HOW MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY
MANY TIMES DO I HAVE TO SAY THIS.
THIS. AND I -- AND I WANT TO SAY
AND I -- AND I WANT TO SAY IT’S -- IT’S -- LET’S WORK ON
IT’S -- IT’S -- LET’S WORK ON DOING THIS CREATIVELY.
DOING THIS CREATIVELY. CAN GIVE YOU JUST AN ANALOGY
CAN GIVE YOU JUST AN ANALOGY HERE?
HERE? >> PLEASE.
>> PLEASE. >> YOU KNOW HOW WE TALK ABOUT
>> YOU KNOW HOW WE TALK ABOUT MONEY IN POLITICS AND WE TALK
MONEY IN POLITICS AND WE TALK ABOUT THE SUPERPACs AND THE
ABOUT THE SUPERPACs AND THE OUTSIDE MONEY AND SO ON, PEOPLE
OUTSIDE MONEY AND SO ON, PEOPLE HAVE ALWAYS JUST SAID THERE’S
HAVE ALWAYS JUST SAID THERE’S NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT.
NOTHING WE CAN DO ABOUT IT. IT’S TOO BAD.
IT’S TOO BAD. WHEN SCOTT BROWN AND I RAN IN
WHEN SCOTT BROWN AND I RAN IN 2012, REMEMBER, WE DEVELOPED A
2012, REMEMBER, WE DEVELOPED A CONTRACT BETWEEN THE TWO OF US
CONTRACT BETWEEN THE TWO OF US AND SAID WE’RE GOING TO KEEP
AND SAID WE’RE GOING TO KEEP SUPERPAC MONEY OUT OF THIS
SUPERPAC MONEY OUT OF THIS CAMPAIGN.
CAMPAIGN. AND WE FIGURED OUT OUR OWN
AND WE FIGURED OUT OUR OWN ENFORCEMENT DEVICE AND WE MADE
ENFORCEMENT DEVICE AND WE MADE IT WORK.
IT WORK. NOW, IT’S NOT A PERFECT ANALOGY,
NOW, IT’S NOT A PERFECT ANALOGY, BUT THE POINT IS YOU DON’T HAVE
BUT THE POINT IS YOU DON’T HAVE A CREATIVE SOLUTION TO SIT DOWN
A CREATIVE SOLUTION TO SIT DOWN AND TRY A CREATIVE SOLUTION.
AND TRY A CREATIVE SOLUTION. AND IF THE FIRST ONE DOESN’T
AND IF THE FIRST ONE DOESN’T WORK, MOVE IT ASIDE AND LET’S
WORK, MOVE IT ASIDE AND LET’S TRY THE SECOND, AND IF THAT ONE
TRY THE SECOND, AND IF THAT ONE DOESN’T WORK, MOVE IT ASIDE AND