AnditsoundsjustlikeleftpartnerswhohasbeendoingseveralinterviewsandlistentothisexchangethatthepresidenthadwithhimaboutthedynamicsbetweenRussiaandUkraine, wherethepresidentisaskinghowlongtheythinkUkrainecouldlastiftheygotinto a knackShewellcombatwithRussia.
Theyhaveeverythingthere.
Theyjustrightnowwaitingforyoursupport a littlebittomakesure, becauseobviouslyiftheygoontheirown, Russiawillwon't lethimdoitbecausethey'llcutoff a lotoftheirrevenue.
Howlongwilltheylastin a fightwithRussia?
Withoutwithout?
ButRussiaalsokeepinmindtalks a biggame, butthey'renotreadyto.
Thatissomethingthatifyou're a diplomatorsomeoneinthegovernmentinUkraine, it's gottafrightenyouthatthepresident, in a cavalierwaylikethat, wastalkingaboutthepossibilitythatRussiawouldmoveonUkraineandwonderinghowlongtheycouldtake.
Well, I'm notsurethattherearemanysenatorswhoput a lotofweightintowhatLoveHarnesshastosay.
ButthisisnotwhatLoveParnessissaying.
Thesearethepresident's ownwords, and I thinkat a minimumithastogivethempauseabouthowmuchadditionalinformationisouttherethattheydon't alreadyknowabout.
I mean, oneofthethingsthatthepresident's lawyerssaidtodaythatactually, I thinkleavesthedooropenformorewitnesseswaswhentheysaidnoneofthesewitnesseshad a directconversationwiththepresident, wherehesaidhewaswithholdingsecurityaidbecausehewantedtheseinvestigations.
Sohowsignificantdoyouthinkthisisfrom a legalperspective?
Well, from a legalperspective, whatitunderminesisthepresident's notionthathedoesn't knowwholiveParnessis.
That's a verysmallgatheringofhighdollardonors, andthey'retalkingpolicy.
They'retalkingUkrainepolicy.
Thatisnotsomethingthatyoucancrediblybelievewhenhesays, I don't knowthisguy.
Soheknowsthisguy.
AndthenthetwoconversationstogetherseemedtoindicatethattheyunderstandwhatisimportantwithrespecttoUkraine, andthatsets a predicateforwhatthey'regoingtodolateron.
It's a yearearlier, butitseemstomethatthisislikethebeginningoftheconversationthatwillseeculminateintheJuly 25thphonecall.
YouknowCaitlyn, thepresidenthasnotrepeatedlysaid, andyou'vebeencoveringhimfor a while.
I believethere's onewithMikePence, thevicepresident.
Thereareseveralphotosofhimwith a lotofpeopleinthisadministration, butthepresidenthasdeniedknowinghimsayingYes, we'vetaken a picture, butwedonotknoweachotherwell.
Hetookwiththemattheirwordforwhattheyweresayingaboutanambassadorandthegovernment, a careerforeignserviceofficerandthenit's sayingtoremoveherfromherpost.
Sothatdoesputin a newlightwiththepresidentsayinghedoesn't knowhim, andnowhewasjusttakinghimathiswordforwhathewassayingabout.
Someonereallydoesleave a lottobedesired.
Tobeexplainedbythepresident.
That's veryimportant.
PointJudgeJohnHarwood.
She's a verydistinguisheddiplomaticcareer.
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