Onecouldargueitwouldn't belanguagethat I woulduseeither.
And I'vesaid I'm not a bigfanofyoursjustnow.
But I defendhisrighttousethosedescriptionsatsayingthat a womanwhoiswearingahkneecapsoyoucanonlyactuallyseeheroureyesessentiallyexactly a slitin a letterboxor a bankrobberwithsomeonewho's wearing a balaclavais a perfectlyaccuratedescription.
Wouldyousayif a womanwaasum, scantilydressed?
Well, tobefairtosayshelookslike a prosecutoror a tart.
I don't thinkyou I thinkyou'llfindout.
Probablysaythingslikethatallthetime.
I thinkwemakejudgmentsaboutwhatpeoplewearallthetime.
Itdependsthecontext.
He's wearing a bikinion a beach.
No, ifshe's wearing a she's veryshe's gotbig, everysinglepartofherbodyhangingoutwalkingonthestreet.
I finditoffensivethatanywomanwouldwear a burkaorkneecap.
A regularpeopledon't know.
Kneecapiswhereyoucanjustseeit.
Sincethestateoftheiceburkeofthewholefaceiscovered, it'llgrillthatpeopleseethroughbutwithwomenconceivethroughBender, wherethesethingsobviouslyAh, I find a defensive.
I probablywalked, passed a womanwearingeither a burkaroadkneecap.
MostdaysincentralLondon, I find I findthatoffensive.
I don't thinkitshouldbeallowed.
I thinkthatitshouldbebannedinpublicplacesinthiscountrythatweshouldfollowBoGermond, underMarkandinFrance, Ondahave a bandaswell, because I thinkitsendsout a very, veryunpleasantmessageabouttherelationshipbetweenmenandwomenandisveryoppressiveon.
I don't thinkit's ever a viablefreechoicethatanywomanwouldmakeoffherownfreewillifshehadn't beenindoctrinatedinterview, thinkingthatshehadtocoveruptoengendergettingrespectfrommen.
So I'm offendedby a womanwearing a burqa, akaor a kneecap.
Sodo I have a righttohaveyouknow, imamsapologizedtomeforseeingthatwherepeoplearedemandingthatBorisshouldapologizeforusingwordsthataccurately, ifnotverypleasantly, describedtheappearanceof a burgerin a cap.
Doyouseehow a lotofpeoplemightfindthat a bitstrange?
No, becauseyou'recomparinganappleand a pair.
Whatyouseewithyoureyes, yourchoicetowalkaway.
No, I tellyou, if I'm sittingonthetrainopposite a ladywearing a burqaonortheotherwayaround, if a womanwaswalkingaroundscantilydressed, do I havetowritetonotsee?
A womanwearing a bikiniOrmaybe a womanwearing a vestinitand a miniskirt.
Whatwouldgiveme a clearwhatyou'retalkingabout?
I'llgiveyou a verygoodexample.
When I wenttoIsrael, notlongertellintheholyareafortheWailingWall a Jewishwomancametoprayandhowskirtwasuptoherneeds.
AndiJewish.
I knowtheJewishladywhowasguardingtheareacameandstoppedherandgaveher a longerscarredsotheywouldcomeuptoherankle.
I wenttoSpainwhen a ladywalkedinto a Catholicchargewithoutheadactual.
We'renottalkingaboutgoingtoplacesofworship.
We'retalkingaboutpeoplewalkingaroundthestreet.
If a womanwantstowear a burkaor a kneecapin a placeofworshipthatsincethat's betweenherandherconscienceofgolden, howeveryou'rewalkingalongpublicstreetsinBritain.
Inmyview, I wouldliketobeabletoseeyourface.
Soyourpartofsociety, I couldengagewithyou.
Wecansmileateachother.
I knowwhoyouareonweandweandweareandyou'reandyou'renotsayingtome.
I'm otherthanthree.
Keythingis, youknowaswellas I dothattheBurkeofthenewpopeisnotsortofaninnocentpieceofcloth.
It's meaningless.
It's not.
It's a statement.
It's a statementofpoliticalideologyratherthanreligions.
DayrequirementinIslamforwomentoweareitherDocGarmentasweknow, becausethevastmajorityhundredsofmillionsofMuslimwomendon't whereeitherneedcabor a burka.
I thinkit's offensivetomen, incidentally, aswellaswomen.
Well, theideathatunless a womanisdressedheadtotoein a shroud, I'm indangeroflosingphysicalAlmenareindangeroflosingselfcontrolandleapingonthemandravishingthem.
I mean, whatonearthdoesthatsayabout a culturethatbelievesthatisright?
I mean, thethingis, isthatwhatevertherightsandwrongsofdebateasyouwerejust a baby.
ThewillplaywellwithToryactivistswhowillseeBorisJohnsonofstandingup, orwhattheyseeis a liberalvaluesortheirvaluesagainstpeoplelikeTheresaMayon a wingoftheTorypartythatthey'reveryfrustratedwith.
I have a funnyfeelingthatanawfullotofTorysupportersonBrexitvoterswhowouldberatherkeenonBorisonbeingthetourreligionbeingprimeministerwouldactuallygofurtherwouldwant a ban.
Yeah, absolutely, althoughalthough I thinkyouknowthatthemerefactthattheywillseeBorisbeingcriticizedforsomeofthelanguageheusedinthearticle, evenifhedidn't comeoutonthesamesideoftheargumentofthem, ultimatelymightbeenoughof a signaltothekeysortofsynthesizersorempathizeswiththeirviews.
Theonethingthat's verystrikingisthealmostallthepeoplewhohavecriticizedfor a safeofffromtheTorypartynowthatstartsfromTheresaMay, downtothebackbenchstory's soundingoffonTwitterareremaining.
Now.
ThisisnotaboutBrexit, butitdoesshowthatthereis a sortofwargoingonforthefutureoftheToryparty.
HecouldhavecalledoutrightfortherunningoftheburqaontothereleaseofliberationofmanywomenintheUKwhoarecompletelyisolatedon a visibleandsegregatedfromsocietyon.
I alsodon't agreewithhiscommentthatwomenshouldbefreetochoosewhattheywerebecausemanyofthesewomenaren't evenfreetochoosetheirownhusband.
Certainlynotgoingtochoosetobein a lesbianrelationship, A morecountrythatcelebratesgayprideongaymarriage.
I don't believethisisaboutvoicescommentswhatsoever.
I actuallypersonallybelievethattheprimeministeronothers, probablyyoucaneveneconomicordertheburgerbytheburger.
Theywouldbedoingthis.
What?
ThenameofthegamenowistokeepBorisdownbecausepollshavejustshownrecentlythatheisonceagainthenumberonepersontotalktoanyleadershipitandthatfrightenspeopleinnumber 10 on.
LordShake, a Torypeerfounder, theconservativeMuslimforhim, he's calledforBristolisthepartywithmesaidHehassaidthatwhathewroteinflames, bigotryandIslamophobia, I couldn't agree.
No, I don't agree.
Andlike I can't sayitoftenenough, youknow, I donotsupportbiases.
Comment.
Womenshouldcontinueinthiscountryin a countrythatcelebratesgayprideandbraces.
I thinktheydoingjusticetothosewomenwhodon't evengettochoosetheirownhusband, whohadabsolutelynooptionofhaving a gaymarriageor a lesbianrelationship, orevenbeingabletoworkorspeakEnglish.
I think, baby, thosewomen, thosesilentwomen, a hugeinjusticeontheyreallytolookatthemselvesonthink.
Theimagesofthetelegraphdoesalsoprintholdnumberofcountrieswhichhavedecidedthatithasgonetoofarintherethereis a caseforabandonthebutinmanycasesthathasbeenbanned.
Sohonest, I thinkyoucouldsaybutbothinhisofficeandsaiditwasthevoicethevoiceofreasonableisn't itreallymadememake a coupleofforevercomparisonswithletterboxes.
Songswillhaven't saidwhathashappenedtofreespeech?
Sothereyouare.
That's myline.
That's that's youropinion.
Youdon't thinkheshouldapologizesomethingthatthisisjust a stormin a teacupwhich I suspecthasbeingkicksupbytheLabourPartyon.
Itisorderedthatmyfinalquestiononthisorisitthecasethatactuallythisisstormin a teacupteacupdeliverykickedupbyBorisJohnsonis a bittoosortoftutortoflaguphisviewstotheTorypartyfaithfulaheadof a leadership.
ItNo, I don't thinkso.
I thinkonallofthat I talk.
I talktoyouaboutthat.
I thinkheisactuallyraisingsomerivets, reallydeadgenuineissues.
So I don't knowhowfarwegetinthiscountry.
Andi, Andi, I thinkthatwedoneedtohave a debateonthishelp.
It's heldkneecapbusiness.
And I thinkthatactually, thepointyoumadeinyourintroductionthisisanexampleofthewaymencontinuetobrutalizethebrutalizedwomen.
And I thinkthatnotitinthosetermsisveryliberal.
WhatdidBorisdowrong?
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