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Hello and welcome to another addition off their jumps.
Race in podcaster.
This is Episode four on.
We're in for another cracking episode as well.
We've got so much look back on over the weekend that shell them on over in Island is well, post will be looking ahead to the action this coming Saturday, both at Ascot On hate up Thio.
I'm Bobby being a visit, as always.
I'm delighted to be joined by Nick Said it, Nick.
Great to see you is always on.
We have got so much to go through reviewing what we start over the weekend.
Hello, baby.
Yeah, great.
See you as always Great to be back for another episode of the Jumps Racing podcast.
And this undoubtedly the best one we've had yet So far, so much to talk about from Child Abandoned Island and so much.
The preview is, well, it could be one of the biggest Saturday to the season coming up.
It's certainly good in day.
Some rail top stars could be on show.
They said come in Saturday, exciting times ahead to say the least.
But just before we get into what's happening this Saturday Haydock on a Scotch is.
Well, let's just have a look.
But what we saw over the weekend at shelter him on that.
First of all, the champion bomb perform is that working out really well, isn't it?
It is.
It is.
So the opening race on the Saturday wasthe e Ballymore sponsored hide novices Hurdle switch from the Friday which was claimed by the weather.
And it was one really well by time Hill, who is now two from two over hurdles, both of those in Grade two company.
He seemed to handle the step up to two miles and five really well, and it was really good performance.
He looks a stay in the making, but I thought the most interesting angle here was, she said, Bobby's how good this champion bomb performs looking now sometimes it works out well.
Sometimes it really doesn't.
The jumping mice perform If you head back 10 10 years or so, Cue card course being set out for off.
Yeah, probably the most famous renewal desperately sacrum when the finished third and that date, even he starred in that champion bumper behind cue card or spent a second thoughts, third in the supreme, possibly behind out for Frank You, Karl Roebuck, you fourth district Trying to think this is why you can improvise.
I'm describing.
But anyway, go back to this year's champion bumper off the 1st 4 of all come out and they've done really well over hurdles.
You know, we know all about viral.
And we spoke about him a couple weeks ago.
Type in hell was come out.
Andi also Blue Sari as well as the time he was third in the champion.
But he's command one too great to events over hurdles believe Sorry.
Now he was the runner up last year, has come out and made a winning debut on the same day on the Saturday over It punches town.
He probably got the job done a bit more rather than being visually impressive.
But this Lois multi come from them and we can't forget about our favorite.
The named horses.
Well, abracadabra who was forged in the Temple member, and he has made a really good start over timber as well, So that form is proving really, really hot.
We had a try on fertile trail on the day as well.
They've actually another train fertile trail going up as well that such that the next meeting at Charles Lindbergh, all mankind looks at a cracking recruit from the flatter to join it.
Done.
Skelton?
Yeah, on paper.
Probably an unlikely recruit from the flat because he really never got going Is a three year old for Michael Bell.
Last year, just a couple of runs and really disappointing for all that we knew he was good on Dhe.
He looks so at home in this completely different assignment on Saturday was in tough conditions for a bonus for, you know, for Ross, switching from the flat.
One really, really well scooted clear and 20 to 1 now for the triumph urd or next March and challenge them.
It's far too early to make any kind of informed call in that division, as we know, but he said three year old and then a four year old next year to follow.
It certainly does now.
Just fair, I think base reasons to be, I should, but I don't think at the same time I think you should go for the straight.
I mentioned there that Caspian caviar, Gold Cup day.
They have another try infertile trail.
There we may see him go for that.
However, there's also a tray off Hurdle Trail on the same day at Doncaster in the Summit Juvenile Hurdle.
That's a great too contest, and I personally near kind light seemed turned up there.
Now.
It was some years ago that certain peace and co he won that race.
Of course, he went on to win the trail head.
All that sees it as well.
So I'd like to seem to know Patel more.
What's your thoughts?
Yeah, we are very guilty, perhaps in national hunt for Considering Cheltenham.
You know it's known as the H Q.
On dhe.
It'll roll revolves around there.
It's easy to forget that there is some really good prize money and really good graded races away from challenge and particularly the North.
No more so than it.
Don't Custer.
And yeah, it will be nice.
And I know you're a proud Yorkshireman.
Say nice of you, that mazel industrial.
But yeah, I would be good.
Good Tiu C.
It's spread out a bit on.
Do you know, rather than everything revolving around, tell me that it's probably as well to be a great set.
Stepping stone and trail along the way.
Also, let's talk about the other Stay in handicap.
Chase it Sheldon as well.
On Saturday afternoon, it went in the way of West approach.
The Collinses aren't Andrabi Power was speaking a few weeks here about certain horses, trainers in connections.
They're already thinking about the Grand National in April on.
They're also doing the same with it.
With West approach, he could turn up in the Grand National.
Yeah, another one to add into the mix, you know, showed again on Saturday that he's very reliable, tough, genuine performer.
Stamina is his forte.
And, yeah, it's a logical target to aim for entry.
Whether all of these horses, as we know we'll get there is into the thing.
But yeah, it makes sense.
I will touch on this race that we spoke about Ramses to teii about 23 weeks ago.
Now he was really good when winning on reappearance in a handicap hurdle race switchback defenses, and it was disappointing with me.
Um, his mark looks pretty high.
Run off 153 Now in on on Saturday, you wonder what they're gonna do with him next.
He's another that you would think the Grand National be a logical point, but he's probably got something to prove now.
Next time out.
The big race of the day, of course, was the bet Victor Gold Cup, and it went in the way off.
Happy Diva.
Just before, though, we get the thoughts off it, Nick.
Let's say now, from our very own winning trainer, Carrie Lee had a brilliant winner on Saturday in the bet Victor Gold cooked with happy diva.
First of all, congratulations.
Thank you very much, Nick.
Great day on.
Yeah, it must be a real thrill to win a race like that.
Now I know it's a sort of question that's difficult to quantify, but just how expected?
My You have a big run on Saturday?
Did you think that she had a real shot at winning?
Well, to be honest with me, I want to be the right truck racing.
If she kept walking, running and get a ride, I'm pretty sure you're in the frame on behalf of the race is run hanging out with fucking to learn.
I'm kind of going off by convention to the public, vote on everything.
Just one in her direction is burning.
Richard Patrick gave her a beautiful ride.
Yeah, as you say, Brilliant.
Right from Richard.
Patrick is one.
And the man.
If he showed so much hard and she to go all the way to the line, she's around trash proper.
Rachel, she needs a job.
Some, possibly Bridas.
Well, like he enjoyed it.
Felt very good.
Rachel's on?
Yes, she she certainly.
But believe, but very bloody like yet brilliant, really great attitude in that hand.
And what does it mean to the yard in general, to you and to all the staff to have such a big winner like this challenge?
Well, when you compound the country, everyone the traitor in that race, nothing to save lives 24 horses on most of the trainers are least double trouble that mind on going to be taking on the last with champion trainer Pool Nicholas David Piper.
Initially, I'm beating them at the home of right wing It it really does mean a lot.
And a quick word on happy Deaver as well.
I mean, of course, she usually nothing, but what would the Plan B for her next?
Could we perhaps expected to see her in something like the Caspian caviar Or would you go back against her in sex?
Now it's certainly a possibility.
Got up six for this race for this way.
What you giving away five times two secretaries as well?
I'd probably be looking to stay in her own against regs that, like the lady's catchers get.
Generally, I'm certainly was being hard on her, and I think I want a quick turnaround.
Good life, chuckling in December for I mean, she had a tough right, but never say never want to go back Lovely talking to carry.
Anyway, in there, we'll catch up with you seen So that was heavily and delighted.
Carrie Lee Just to wear to emphasize is, well, we're in the big race off the day on Saturday.
Or what a brave performance it was from her.
As as, well, for happy Even Nick.
Yeah, brilliant to see Carrie do so well, it's no secret that we sponsor here.
A horse racing don't net so very much.
I think the PR team were being the hands together when they when they could see the logo and I see the cameras.
That's job done from our perspective.
But yeah, brilliant success.
Great to see you get a big Saturday win in happy dealers.
So likeable isn't she?
Is a man really consistent type and just ran all the way to the line.
And, you know, what more is there to say?
Just a brilliant performance.
And great to see Carrie back, Back where it matters.
On a Saturday Slade house.
Hey, came to grief it to out dont but it was traveling really well.
Big question is love.
You know it from books.
Really?
But should he have stayed on his feet?
Do you think he was gonna be the winner?
He was traveling notice to be well, wasn't It is no secret that lots of people fancied him for this no more.
Say probably then the tis odds.
We sort of felt that the secret might've been out when he wouldn't say Well last month, a child him traveling really really well.
And then just it was a straight a strange fall.
He didn't look like he was gonna tip over and then ultimately couldn't finish the race.
Yet he would have gotten very close, wouldn't he?
Um, He's one to follow.
I think you mentioned that he looks Is that you think he's a prime candidate for the Caspian Caviar.
I personally would go for that myself because, you know, should have won the bet Victor Gold Cup.
Then you could have had the case.
He'll try and go and do the double, but I think the way he was traveling, I've really liked the way his combat this year, because I mentioned it on the park just a few weeks ago, did inside.
I said I was there.
I was doing shots radio at the time, a couple of years ago, when Hey wanted the opening meeting is done that again this season and so should say what's or two years ago I expect him to really kick on.
That stated, Did it quite kick all like I thought you would?
But But this year I've really like in what I say.
So so for May.
Yes, I would go in December, back to Cheltenham custody and cover our Gold Cup ongoing and train and go win that race.
That's the way I would plate it with him because I really want to say and I think connections.
I think they'll be thinking that anyway, you know, to go for there for the Caspian caviar gold because the question is, what would happy diva turn up for that as well?
You think so, wouldn't you?
Um, he and I, we we tried to get the picture of Carrie from that, and you know it's still up in the air, but it's a logical choice for her or whether they put it back into mayor's races.
It's it's exposed.
It's up to carry at the end of the day.
But yet it's got to be a temptation to go to go for the double like that.
You know, such a such a high profile double to go for.
But what about safe House?
Do you think he is a graded level chaser?
Because he has got this great victory over hurdles and he's in handicap coming the moment does he look to you?
And then you said it is impressed you.
Does he look to you like a graded horse in 100 cats?
Don't get excited, you know about this horse.
That's that's my honest opinion.
Foot.
From what we've seen so far, you know, should have sent this fee.
I think he wants the likeliest winner in all furnished so in answer to your question is, yes, that most definitely I think it's gonna happen, you know, sooner rather than than later.
To, to say the least, are just sticking.
We're with Children.
Also, just have a look at what we saw on Sunday.
Of course, put the cattle on one in the in the Ark.
Will try was all over Al Dancer.
So it's to get the job done here.
But your opinion, Nick, you know how much is that?
Put the kettle on now a serious contender for elections are called.
It's a really interesting one, isn't it?
Because coming into the race, this just looked like a match between two smart, always hurdlers from last season.
Aren't answering getaway trump Andi as it panned out.
They just couldn't get past this really gay mayor put the cattle on.
She did everything right, and I thought there was a shade of black courted about it because of that that she started so early in the season.
She's four from five over.
Fences already started all the way back in May, and she just keeps going.
The question will always be how far she can take this, but she's got the article trial under about I.
I think the headline act is still without dancer and get away from there.
Probably still the two that will be favored to turn into bona fide Arkle, um, contenders next March.
But this division looks really open at the moment.
A time recording.
It's Tuesday.
Lorena, I think, is due to run on Thursday.
Yes, she could be the one that really becomes the star name in the division in terms of taking out outright favoritism, because I think it's 8 to 1 the field at the moment.
Yeah, it's it's a little check what it is at the moment.
I think you're right there that want to be fair.
And I think it is wrong about the the one they feel right there.
We have the slur.
Didn't weigh on Sunday afternoon as well.
I want a great performance.
Itwas from definite soy.
What a great race.
Only four runners in there on you, You know, you always think Crikey, it's gonna be hard to be a spectacle is so few in the field, but all four coming towards the closing state of the race still had a chance, including the 12 year old simply Madhu for half a second.
I thought, Oh my God, he's going to do it really good race on the really good finish in this winner Deputy Soy toughed it out.
Probably not his ideal trip, but in winning in the slow distance, We just shaved to two miles.
He's opened up a world of possibilities, you know, It could be a champion chase telling him personally, I think he could be more of a Ryanair horse born.
It sounds like he's gonna go for the Tingle Creek.
Next on Dhe.
They must be I and go shock and post wa.
You know, I was in the same boat to jail for the brief.
Second of thought is simply Ned, the 12 year old going to get the job done effort for Nikki Riches, a membrane heels.
But I think one thing we can say about simply that is that he's gonna go back to Wyland, isn't see over the festive period and going try and win that great one for the third consecutive year as well.
That'd be great.
If he could do that again, we'll be keeping a very close eye to see it what will happen with him?
The great would Wow we talk about You know what a cracking race there.
The Schlehr.
Where?
What about the great Would knew Miss One set in with chances.
Personally, I thought gumball, that was gonna be the one to get the head out in front.
When?
When the time mattered.
But Harambe great great performers, dog.
Indeed there.
Cracking bit of steering, we have to say for from the jockey Tom Bellamy, sure he's gonna be content if it for one of the right of the month suet to say the late It's not the first time that some Bellamy as that a big winner at this meeting, Of course.
A couple years ago, Nicky won the bet Victor Gold cooked into with the sets and splash of change.
He's got all the big winner, though, at the meeting and this time it's it's set Harambe in the great wood.
Yeah, good ride.
A good race.
Great name Always brings a smile from the old Harambe.
A means for a few years ago around his legacy lives on in this awesome.
You know, I did a preview night at the the Yorkshire Racing Club a couple of years ago, I was asked to put a few horses up to follow Predictive put upsetting because I'm a shambles.
But I also put up Harambe thinking that he was really good in bumpers.
I thought he would transition into being a real novice hurdle to follow.
It never really got going from last season.
It was, hey, run really well in his final start of last time.
And he's come back this year and looks a really improved model, the one on Sunday off 137.
Which means he's probably still scope for him yet.
And I think he's going to be a staple in thes two mile handicap.
Save the season the likes of, you know later in the season, the Imperial Carpets under Let's Have a Look.
That's what we saw over in Ireland.
And I think this is the part of podcast where we need to mention Nick, these old favorites coming back to the four, getting the job done on How fantastic was it to see Dover?
Yeah, really, Really good.
Um, really good to see him.
Um, 539.
Daybreak.
I must admit I have my doubts is if we never see him again.
But he was great to see him back.
A calm, well, even better to see.
And when our back on Thursday on from what he showed his wow, it beating a great to field on a great one before in Monterey.
Looks like you still got an awful lot to offer as well on the step up Thio.
Was it two and 1/2 or two mile five?
The Carmel chase that sort of territory anyway, The rare sort of territory opens up loads of doors for him because I'm not sure he's a champion chase horse anymore.
Um, so it's gonna be really interesting to following this year.
Divan is is back, and it will be great to see whether he can get back to that Grade one winning level.
I was looking these entries earlier.
He's entered in the John Durkin, which is over two and 1/2 a beginning of December.
A certain presenting Percy's also in that hay has a King George entry, and then I've also read that he could reportedly dropped two miles next time out, so he's gonna be a fascinating one to follow certainly will it rain there?
It would be at my port of call if I was to where to go anywhere with dove in and we talk about dove in.
But what about four hin the machine?
He got the job done there on a chase.
Said debut.
Just something.
Look, it was granted.
Is that rented for the stays?
Isn't say at shelter next year for him, but for May Go for the jail, T.
Yeah, I just need to repeat everything I've just said about Duvan.
We were both that entry with me when he was pulled up with a reported heart problem back in April on I just thought, This is game over for Dean, and he owes is nothing.
He's 11 years old.
Um, time to retire him.
And crikey is proving me wrong.
He's come back and made a winning chase debut at 11.
Um, a bit tiddly didn't always look likely.
You made a real bad mistake but roared on state.
I'm really well wouldn't really well, and we could end up here with a horse who is a bona fide challenger in a Grade one novice at 12.
This doesn't happen very often I've read that he could go to this grade one of its chase that I think it's Limerick on Boxing Day or the day over in Ireland.
But yet it certainly you think, I think that with the horse lifer, he now he's 11 rising 12 very, very soon in six weeks or so, it's more important to just keep him enthusiastic for the game on Dhe.
Take it one race at a time, and he looks like he's gonna be loads of fun to just follow this year.
It's great to see it for Hin, but in action, right in the cross country, we need to speak about Yum with fantastic Nick.
Yeah, we know all about Youngworth Way today is he's a jewel grade one, winning her there from what seems like eons ago.
Now on, then he never got going over fences.
A chaser on was disappointing for a longer time, switched to end a boulder.
Who is the king or queen?
If you speak to Twitter to call him at?
Um, queen of the cross country race is king of the cross country race is made a winning start, and you would think that all roads now would lead to march.
And I suppose in Weston is could bearing in mind that we know that he's a bit of a maverick, a talented maverick.
There's another ex maverick that is at the top of the cross country division in Tiger roll.
Would he ever on peak form?
Considering the tiger roll, we're becoming heir of the back of an absence.
Be able to play up to it?
Never, Never?
No, no, no, no.
Joking aside, you make about take a role.
You know, it is not the biggest source we know that don't we bought, You know, Tiger roll, you know, at the top of his game is undefeatable.
He really is when we're talking about lost what may be going for the Grand National Book, I personally believe.
And I know we're only in November at the moment, but I personally believe that saiga role will go on and win 1/3 grand national.
I really don't see that happening.
I'm sure he turned up in the cross country.
I think you'll win it again.
I really do.
I think young with could be a brave second, you know, second and third, you know, depending on how the race watched to it too.
And fall.
Of course.
You know, Tiger rolls have the setback.
You know, we may not see him a special maybe the cross country teach what you've just alluded to there.
But now I should say, girl, be beyond song.
I really can't see.
I think that took everything at him.
But I think young with would come up short because I think Tiger Oh, it is such a unique horse with what he's done.
What he's achieved here is, actually, you know, Thai girls, one of the greats.
You know it.
They'll go down as one of the greats, you know?
L join your lights off, off cold.
You know, it is up there with those sorts of great horses, you know, caught, oh, stars Damon's.
He's got that.
That legendary, legendary status, if you like with it with Tiger.
Also, I can't really see it happening myself.
But having said that, though I do with it Young with it would run around to the good race.
Decent race, actually turn up in March.
Right then sell dear.
For Willie Mullins.
No win for classic or dream.
I sell dear, though got the job done.
Another great one for Celia.
Yeah, bubble burst for classical dream, but I think he's It's worth remembering that he this is his first room back.
A.
Was a multiple grade one winner is a novice.
Last year you're come on for this.
We need to keep an eye on him.
But sold here is very much going on the radar, Hosni, because if you go back to the beginning of last season, hey was traveling all over a certain a spider land.
The ill fated a spider land at Nice.
My handwriting's terrible at Nice when falling, suffering every fall and injuring himself, I think, broke his nose or something along those lines.
Um, so he missed all of last season.
He's come back and he's taken.
If we if we think that he would have held on and beaten a sweater and he's taken another scalp here in the form of classical dream on these, rightly now right at the top of the market for the champion head or 5 to 1 joint favorite with Beaver there on holds an entry in the fighting fifth against that particular rival.
Don't you think you're gay there, But he's right.
Lee, now at the top of the division.
What's wide open division but their baby have a quick turnaround.
Wanted to christen the fight in fifth grade?
When I put new customers a week on substance, it falls on the same day A CZ.
You'll be sure that would be a very quick turnaround, looking forward to preview it.
The fighting with actually on it next week.
CSI Episode right than before.
We talk about the Lie Brooks Trophy on and the fighting fit next week.
Let's talk about what we're going to bay helpfully seen this Saturday.
Started first at Ascot with their within 1965 out.
See over surname.
What a mouthwatering prospect this could be.
Yeah, this is a race that has been It feels like it's been height for about 12 months now.
It's been going on, and it looks like it is good it is on.
They both been declared at the five day stage, and it is absolutely fascinating.
And it's a sort of topic that is really Stokes something with national fans because you've got this horse in lt or who is 19 from 19 ever obstacles and we've run out of superlatives for it, you know.
Is he one of four Children festivals?
Three.
Tell the festival's Yep, pretty Marchal teacher.
My four Children festivals on, and he seems unbeatable.
And yet we've got this poor Nichols train chaser who was one grade one win under his belt on officially is rated £1 higher than I'll Tear.
That essentially means it thes two in Fantasy Land with a race in a handicap, surname would have to give out your weight.
At first glance, it does seem very strange, but at the same time, I suppose, on the figures, you have to think that it was an impressive grade one when sending absolutely romped home in the Scott Chase over two mile of five, he'd be a string of top level performers.
Andi, he really has looked at improved model, safe or in 2019.
So there is method to the madness.
For all that, I probably don't agree with the official ratings on, But yet it does feel like Al Seo is facing a bona fide top class rival.
And what is interesting as well is that this is very much an away from home fixture for lt always having to go to certain names.
Home ground.
It's the scene of his Ascot Chase success, its course and distance.
And Alice here is gonna be facing a top class front running rival.
He was gonna get him out of his comfort zone, pushes limits and really serve it up to him.
It's It's it, really.
Is it cup?
It is going to overshadow the bat for chase, isn't it?
It's gonna read Absolute Butte off a race.
And the more you say out loud as well, you just appreciate, um, which of, ah, have a great race.
It's going to be Halsey over.
Certainly we have wanted these two to come together for some time now on hopefully fingers crossed.
It will happen on on Saturday in the 1965.
Now, the great one on Saturday is the bet Fair chase up at Haydock with men notes on all that five of those.
That's it.
Hopefully I said big problem.
Every men notes on for those results.
Your beg your pardon scented We know where he'll be and you know s so it looks like it's gonna be ah, foreign of contest.
So bristled.
I'm a lost in translation.
Froedtert also wants five barley optic elegant escapes.
Must was right the first time they're missing out.
Elegant escape.
The at the bar.
Today, she looks, I think there's going to be five.
I'd say that we'll start first.
There were with Bristled to May.
Of course, he's going to try and win the race for their third consecutive year.
We want it first time outs 12 months ago.
The time before we want the Charlie Hall first before heading to wear to Haydock, Bristol Domain than he is currently.
The market later to get the job done again.
Yeah, I'm gonna recycle cliche here because we talk about home games in the 1965 Chase surname.
Very much at home.
There, this is a home.
Is it?
Gets for Bristol?
No, my he seems to be a different horse here at Haydock.
He's four from four, probably about £15 better, eh?
Don't than anywhere else on.
Not only is he fall from 43 of those winds have been by absolutely huge margins, usually when the conditions are testing and in doing so in winning his four races to the last two.
But for Chase's as well.
He's taken some serious scowls.
Native River Fissile Crack might buy clambers oboe.
Cue card.
The list goes on.
Conditions will suit on DDE.
He's 65 for the reason.
He is bidding to win this for the third year running, and he's the one to beat.
He's currently the market leader.
Have he said that, though I do really like the look off lost in translation and even more so based on what we saw last time out at Carlisle, of course, they're calling twos are no stranger to win in the bet Fair Chase, but lost in translation, I think a person serving all to myself.
Sure, the first.
The first line I've got my notes is, So you want to be a goal Corpus.
Now all the vibes about lost in translation have been that he, except for a really stellar season on the tis odds have not been shy with their comments.
And you know the secrets out with him.
He's going to go for the Gold Cup.
There was everything to like about is when, as you say in the Colin Parker, Carlao jumped magnificently.
You traveled all over too smart novices from last season on Dhe on the evidence of his Grade one winner, Aintree, back in April, was a novice.
He's a bona fide top class chaser, but crikey, it's it's some assignment.
The common defeat Bristol Jamai in this race, ADA parking conditions that they're going to play into Bristol demise hands.
We've just read out a long risk list of horses that haven't been able to do it.
So it sounds really silly to say that if lost in translation wins this, he becomes a riel Triple Crown contender.
But the amount of times that the non Morse of the Bristol de my hasn't been able to translate that into the King George what day he fell in the race last year.
It was last year.
Did the Raceway felon brought wait impatiently down?
Yeah, yeah, I think I think he did.
To be fair to I think he did dispel the Aurora around invested in my last year that he was I don't want to say flat track bully, but well suited by paid up because he ran so well.
He couldn't show anything at camp because he felt so early.
But you ran so well in the gold cup of chowder them noticeably well, that years of he is a very, very good horse.
But this is a home game, and it lost in translation can win this.
He goes into the King George not only his favorite for the kid, George, but favor the gold Cup.
And favorite.
I'm, you know, a very good price, I imagine to do the Triple Crown I, Frode on four.
Paul Nichols on Brain The Frost, of course, is that the one runs so far this season that was in the old Rohan.
I've gone through my notes of triple, tracked it to make sure at this distance the bet fair chase distance Which, of course, we all know is the extended three males.
One fair longs Frode on his only run once at this distance on one on that was in the cops will chase actual, um so undefeated at the strip is Frode a good start?
One of the most likable horses in training isn't the Ryanair when it from last year.
Andi, you can forgive the old brain.
It was there that day, you know.
It was it was a reappearance run.
Then he was giving away lumps and bumps and lumps and waits to the field.
He will come on for that.
What interests me with him is that he seems to be really at home at Cheltenham.
Tell them is his home ground.
This is his first run over Fences at Haydock.
He's run over here over hurdles here in the past.
I think he needs a little bit more to trouble the 1st 2 and this race is probably in danger, becoming a match race.
We've seen it before, haven't way when we talk about by the optical horse, winning the Charlie hold, then going on to a way to win the bet Fair chase by the optic it winning the Charlie Holic, or ple weeks ago at Beverly.
Just just for him, though in regards to the Optic Nick, he needs that ground.
He needs that juices and say, Yeah, um, we said a few weeks ago, when we were reviewed the Charlie Hole, that he's always promised to be a top class chaser.
Yeah, he's, too, from two this season.
He's won the Charlie Hall, which is a good indicator for this race in the Gold Cup division in general.
on Dhe.
Quite simply.
This is a shark.
This is his chance.
He's very, very likely, you'd say, to get juice in the ground that hate a park.
I mean, I live in Manchester.
It's always raining in Manchester.
Not too far from Hey, Doc.
I imagine it will be the right sort of going belly up thick.
This is his chance to sit at the top table, but is a stablemate of Bristol de Mai, and he's very much the it's number you hope.
And it's not just that Tristan Davis so still represents.
Colin Desert is as well.
He's got elegance escape now.
He's never actually run a Haydock before.
Which is, which is really interesting is never had a run on Hey Doc, And I'm kind of questioning that roots or this route, shall we say, ahead of the Welsh Grand National, should it turn up, sit out at the Bucket of December?
Yeah, it's time for the klaxon because I'm going to say this phrase is going to say every single week.
It's probably my favorite ones in racing.
He's a bottom topper, which is that he is good enough to be contesting these races, probably not quite good enough to win them.
But is one of those, isn't it?
And he's all about stamina.
Elegant escape.
He was staying on noticeably well in the Charlie Hall when the ones in front got tired and it was really turning into a test of stamina.
So we mentioned that the tea is ours.
We're gonna have to be a bit coy about where they were going away, ma'am, and I do understand the logic and put him in in a race like the bet fair where it is likely to be testing, it is likely to turn into a test of stamina.
He would be the ideal candidate, but my concern about him is that I'm not sure he's quite got the turn of pace, too.
Deal with running in a championship level race like the bet fair chase.
I think he's always gonna be giving himself a bit too much to do and staying on late in the day as sick in with the bet for Chase's Well, let's hear now from call the well in ahead of Nigel sources on Saturday, so firstly called his head of the bet fair Chase will start first with their Bristol de May.
How's your being since he's been back in training at home run.
I mean, plenty of time to get ready.
And he's he's a good form.
So you company work.
So what I have here that that he'll say horses for courses?
Don't.
Then if I've got this right call, I believe is only 14 times that.
Hey, look in the past, I second the chap.
Um um, uh, third job by good writers, you know, But I'm going forward with the same rules as last year.
So we're King George on Boxing Day.
Um, I wouldn't be surprised if they came.
Well, we'll see what happens.
There wasn't a dry and get up to get it off.
Naturally, Jilly represented in the field.
He's also got barley.
Optic is Well, it was a certain defeat of the season two from two nights way I was on the court, it was his race.
But this morning in the Charlie hold, there was there was a lot to like about that call was a lot stakeouts of it.
Yeah, I'm not dragging it.
Maybe I could have made a big difference, but in terms of the ground as well.
What would you say is his ideal ground?
That the reason why I put that question serious?
Because we know he's got the form on testing ground.
But at the same time, he's also got the former on good ground as well.
I know he's won a race before.
I'm good.
When it was second in the Scottish National, that was also on good ground as well.
So what do you think this is ideal ground It, would you say?
Probably more versatile.
Maybe more right.
Good.
Well on display for with him is well, call what will it be?
A poppet.
The Grand Nationals again?
Maybe that the Welsh National.
It's not here.
Thank you very much for your time and in the vessel with both bristled in May and also by the uptake on Saturday.
Thank you for your time.
So I was called the Well and speaking today earlier on That's it day.
And it's great to get your call on the on the podcast it to say that you know, of course, they're very successful jockey in its time.
Yeah, great to hear from a legend of the game.
Now I must admit I'm showing me age.
Here is a little bit before my time and I think I said Thio the other week that I've actually got a North A graft from Carla well, in from hate apart back in 2005 ish when he was on been dory and I barely remember it.
But I know that he's a big name in this sport and its great get in sight like that in the podcast and hopefully for them.
At least it's a woman to win the bet for Chase.
Yeah, the fantastic to see it.
As always, they killed everybody who was there tuned into it the jumps, racing, poker.
See if episode for myself and Nick will be.
But next week, as we look ahead to love books trophies at Newbury on, of course, in the great one, this time in the way off the fighting at gospel part.
But from myself, Bobby are Nikas.