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  • So, we've got a general election and everyone

  • is scrambling around looking at tactical voting.

  • I find it very confusing.

  • Personally, not convinced that it works.

  • Right, and I can see where you're

  • coming from because we've got different websites,

  • different sources making different recommendations.

  • So we, today, are going to talk about which of these you

  • can maybe have more faith in, which less.

  • Does it work at all?

  • We're going to be your tactical voting guides.

  • So, I've been getting loads of text messages from friends,

  • or even colleagues have been asking me who to vote for.

  • I feel like I have so much power that I shouldn't have.

  • And a lot of them, in fact all of them,

  • live in marginal constituencies and what they've been doing

  • is looking at 2017 results but then

  • hearing different, conflicting answers from these websites.

  • So we really dug into this.

  • Now, why now?

  • Why is tactical voting happening now?

  • It's because the two major parties -

  • Labour and the Conservatives - haven't really been dominating

  • the polls as much as they used to.

  • Now, we've looked at polling data in the last two years

  • but really we could go back quite a bit more in history

  • and what we would see - let's say this is like,

  • 50 per cent of the vote - is that the Conservatives

  • have been jostling for the top position for a while.

  • More or less, this is what's been happening.

  • We have the Conservatives at 42 per cent in the most recent

  • poll of polls and Labour are at 29 per cent.

  • The Lib Dems have sort of re-emerged from obscurity

  • and are now at 14 per cent.

  • The Green party is also.

  • .... is, yeah, the Brexit party, and they have...

  • They're on six.

  • ...gone up to 6 per cent, and they had some big results

  • in the European elections in May.

  • So, let's put the SNP in there.

  • Apologies to the SNP.

  • I think they're around about four, aren't they?

  • So just at that.

  • This is a political panorama.

  • It's all split, so it's no surprise

  • that people are so confused.

  • Right, because I guess back when we had a two-party system

  • and it was fairly stable you could just

  • look at the last result and say, oh, it

  • will probably be something like that.

  • Whereas, now, if we've got areas where the Lib Dems have gone up

  • and Labour have gone down, you could actually have a situation

  • where...

  • let's say you were a Remainer and your strategy is

  • to minimise the chance of the Tories winning in your seat.

  • Obviously what you want to do is vote

  • for the party that is closest behind the Tories in your seat.

  • Now, that may have been Labour last time,

  • but if they've gone down a bit and the Lib Dems have gone up,

  • it may now be the Lib Dems.

  • And so, yes, as you say the issue is,

  • voters who are trying to vote tactically just

  • don't know where their vote should go.

  • So, luckily for them there are loads of websites

  • advising them, right?

  • There are.

  • So let's see if I can just grab another sheet.

  • Another thing that's confusing is their names,

  • because they all sound the same.

  • Whack that one over there.

  • So, we have tactical.vote, tacticalvote.co.uk -

  • I'll do a different colour and this one - tactical-vote.co.uk,

  • getvoting.org, and finally, on the Remain side,

  • remainunited.org.

  • Is this just a Remainy thing?

  • Tactical voting?

  • Or Brexiteers do it too, surely, right?

  • Right.

  • So you could be confused for thinking

  • this is only Remainers, but we did

  • find one pro, sort of pro-Brexit tactical voting site, which

  • is called oneuk.org.

  • So, there's a lot going off.

  • I found that one quite amusing because the results were

  • something like 360 seats for the Conservatives, 160 for Brexit,

  • then 60 for Ukip, but then one Independent, one Labour.

  • It was something like that.

  • It was very crazy.

  • I mean, if everyone follows their advice then

  • it's plausible, perhaps.

  • Or is it?

  • That's the thing, I guess this is the point.

  • These are different sites, all sorts

  • of different numbers going on.

  • So it's hard to know.

  • It's hard to know where to look and which you should

  • trust more or less than others.

  • I'm still very sceptical about this because I put in...

  • I tried to use one... because my friend was asking me and I

  • thought, well, let's try this.

  • And it gave me completely contradictory results

  • depending on which website I was using,

  • and also, when I checked with the 2017

  • results of her constituency, it just seemed like the result

  • that it was giving me made no sense.

  • Yeah, and this is the point.

  • Some people have now made a, sort of,

  • meta-tactical voting sites, which

  • collates all of the different recommendations

  • and they find there are well over 100, just

  • on the Remain side, where different sites give

  • different recommendations.

  • So, shall we take a look at one?

  • Let's look at one.

  • Let's look at Finchley, which we thought

  • was particularly interesting, right?

  • Yeah.

  • Finchley and Golders Green.

  • This is in London and there's a couple of interesting things

  • about this place.

  • One is a relatively large Jewish population and, I think,

  • it's well known that Labour has had some problems there with

  • the accusations of anti-Semitism.

  • And then we have a former Labour MP, Luciana Berger.

  • Whose now running for the Lib Dems.

  • Whose now running for the Lib Dems, and is a Jewish MP

  • and was born in London.

  • So, you'd think, maybe Lib Dems have a chance here.

  • You would, but...

  • But if you check the 2017 results, what would you see?

  • So, let's have a look at this.

  • Do you want to slap 2017 somewhere

  • and I'll put them next to that.

  • Awesome.

  • So, that's the general election.

  • Yeah.

  • 2017.

  • These blocks, we're going to say that each of these big ones

  • is 10 per cent of the vote and the little ones are 5 per cent.

  • So what we're looking at there is 2017 general election

  • result, Finchley and Golders Green,

  • where the Conservatives got about 47 per cent of the vote.

  • Labour would just be under 43 per cent.

  • It's clearly a hugely marginal constituency.

  • Marginal constituency, but very much a two-party race,

  • and the Lib Dems only got 6.6 per cent.

  • So anyone looking at those numbers would, of course,

  • think, okay, if I want to prevent the government's Brexit

  • deal going through then I've got to vote Labour.

  • But let's see what these different sites say.

  • So, if we were to look at the remainunited.org site,

  • this is associated with...

  • That's this one?

  • Gina Miller's organisation.

  • You get something a little bit different.

  • The numbers I'm going to show you

  • here are what they think voting intentions currently are

  • in Finchley and Golders Green.

  • So this is based on polling?

  • Yeah, they've done a big poll of about 6,000 people

  • across the country and used to make projections

  • for every seat, and they reckon the Conservatives are still

  • ahead, but on 42 per cent, down from 47 per cent.

  • They reckon Labour are 29 per cent and the Lib Dems are on 28

  • per cent.

  • So, essentially neck and neck.

  • And, we're talking about a gap there

  • of 13 per cent between the top two,

  • which, if these two coalesced, could be overturnable.

  • So the question is, 29 per cent, 28 per cent,

  • who do you vote for?

  • Then we look at getvoting.org.

  • This is the site in association with Best for Britain

  • and they go even further.

  • So in that situation we've got the Conservatives on 40 -

  • on 36 per cent, sorry.

  • The Lib Dems on 26 per cent and Labour on 25 per cent.

  • What method is that based on?

  • That's similar to remainunited but an even larger poll.

  • They polled 46,000 people, which meant they had enough to see

  • what...

  • That's 46,000 across the country?

  • Across the country.

  • Not just in that constituency?

  • Not just in that constituency, no.

  • That would be crazy.

  • But, amazing.

  • That would be the whole.

  • Whole lot.

  • So two methods here which do a big poll,

  • these were carried out more recently.

  • Sort of, September, October, November time.

  • So much more up to date than 2017 and they have essentially

  • Labour and Lib Dems neck and neck.

  • And that's not all.

  • We can then look at the pollster Survation and Deltapoll,

  • and each of these have been doing individual polls

  • in the local area.

  • So looking at this, I'm still very confused.

  • If I had a friend in that constituency,

  • obviously that's not where I live, but I wouldn't know...

  • I wouldn't know what to advise.

  • Right.

  • And if we just add in the most recent of all of those polls,

  • which is the Deltapoll one , I'll just show you how then

  • the picture may be changed even more.

  • They have Conservatives on 46 per cent - this is Deltapoll -

  • they've got the Lib Dems 32 per cent and Labour on 19 per cent.

  • Ah.

  • That's a bit more clear cut, I suppose.

  • A little bit more clear cut.

  • And then, so they would now be saying this very much,

  • if you want to stop the Tories getting into this seat

  • you would vote Lib Dem.

  • So, yeah.

  • Clear as mud.

  • And if we look at where these are coming from.

  • So, tactical.vote and tacticalvote.co.uk are basing

  • their recommendations mainly on 2017,

  • so tacticalvote in Finchley would tell you to vote Labour.

  • Remainunited and getvoting.org would

  • both tell you to vote Lib Dem.

  • So it's really not clear.

  • And in the end you might not be voting with your conscience.

  • You just had this one thing in mind

  • and you're being pulled in different directions.

  • Which is the result that you want?

  • But also, you've got to be thinking

  • - it's almost like game theory - is everyone else going

  • to be tactically voting as well and whose advice

  • are they going to follow?

  • And I find that even more confusing

  • because we don't actually know how many people are

  • looking at tactical voting?

  • According to one poll it's going to be around 60 per cent

  • and another poll found just 6 per cent,

  • and obviously they phrased the question differently so

  • that made a huge impact.

  • But on top of that, there have been studies that show that,

  • actually, tactical voting in 10 per cent of cases, I think,

  • can be very counterproductive.

  • It can, it can sort of split the vote entirely.

  • Exactly, yeah.

  • Because if you think about this case,

  • if one person is going to tactical.vote just

  • because maybe that's their top result on Google,

  • and the other goes to one of the other sites,

  • then you've got two people who both think

  • they're voting to prevent the Tories getting a majority,

  • but they end up voting for different parties

  • and so the vote is even more split.

  • There are, however, some substantial ways

  • in which these sites are doing things differently.

  • So, for me - and we're not going to say

  • one of these sites is great and the others are bad

  • and that kind of thing - but I think

  • you can think about these sites differently.

  • So, tactical.vote and tacticalvote.co.uk

  • are mainly basing their recommendations on 2017.

  • The getvoting.org and remainunited

  • are basing theirs on these more up to date polls,

  • and they are both going to be updating their recommendations

  • with new polling data over the next couple of weeks.

  • So for me, I would just say that if the data's recent

  • and if the data is specialised for that local area,

  • such as the stuff from getvoting and remainunited,

  • that's probably going to give me the best idea of who my best

  • choice is.

  • And I would also say check the sample size

  • in the survey to make sure that it's the most accurate one.

  • Exactly.

  • If you look at the Deltapoll and Survation local surveys,

  • they surveyed a few hundred voters.

  • And sure, a constituency is smaller than a country

  • so you don't necessarily need to survey 1,000 people,

  • but it means the error margins on these numbers are big.

  • So again, if you're trying to work out who's second

  • and who's third and they're close to another,

  • it essentially means we don't really know.

  • So your friends have been texting you.

  • What advice have you been giving them?

  • I'm going to be a bit of a politician

  • and swerve this question a little bit.

  • I sort of answered tactically, as it were.

  • In one case it was a marginal constituency, but it was...

  • there was a consensus across the different websites

  • and the 2017 result showed that there was a consensus there,

  • so that was really easy.

  • In the case where it was really difficult to make a decision,

  • I just told my friend, well, check the candidates.

  • See what their policies are, see what you care most about,

  • the sort of old-school way of voting in an election.

  • Vote with your conscience.

  • Yeah.

  • So you could do both, I suppose.

  • I guess, good luck to all the tactical voters out there,

  • and we'll see what happens on the night of December the 12th.

  • Let's see who wins amongst these websites.

  • Indeed.

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