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  • prosecutor in the case.

  • He wanted to find some piece of evidence, you know, a murder weapon, a print that somehow tied Larry Vanner to the active murdering in Sinjin.

  • What they came up with was cat litter.

  • There was a huge pile of kitty litter on top of Vincent's body.

  • 10 bags worth a kitty litter.

  • If we can find out where he bought all this cat litter, there might be a store employee who actually remembers it.

  • It would be like a needle in a haystack to try to locate the store where he bought the cat.

  • Litter is just so many pet stores would be nearly impossible.

  • And so Roxanne sort of takes on that challenge and spots a detail.

  • I had been notified by the bank that there was some video of him at a T M.

  • Using unsuited credit card.

  • I remembered that where that bank was that little in that little shopping center.

  • There was this really cool pet store, and based on nothing more than that, she takes a ride out to the pet store.

  • I walked in and I said Things happen.

  • Maybe that somebody came in and bought a significant quantity of cat litter out of the blue.

  • And he goes, Yeah, there was this guy that came in and he bought 10 of them and they described him to a teeth older guy.

  • Gray hair, mustache, beard, scruffy beard, bright blue eyes, you know, and he goes in.

  • He paid cash.

  • Ultimately, the cat litter was the key.

  • The pretrial hearings for Larry's murder trial begin, and he pleads guilty.

  • He doesn't fight it at all.

  • He just says, I'm done.

  • Send me to jail.

  • I don't want to talk about anything anymore.

  • It was a huge shock to everyone in the judge, the prosecutor banners own lawyer Roxanne has a hunch that Larry Vanner is hiding something.

  • That he had.

  • This little girl that he said was his daughter and he gave her away.

  • Like what?

  • What was this charge of abandoning a child about?

  • I think he believed if he pled guilty, I would stop investigating that aspect of his past.

  • He goes to jail thinking it's done, but the case haunts Roxanne and she keeps digging, keeps digging.

  • I was really centered on the little girl on Lisa.

  • There were, like little fingerprint cards, like with these little tiny little hands and little.

  • They were dead there for little footprints on the back of him and little tiny fingerprints.

  • And it just made me angry and curious like, Was this really his daughter?

  • If it's not his daughter, where did he get her?

  • Who did he get her from?

  • I put in a request to do a definitive paternity test.

  • She got a blood sample from Vanner, who is now in prison, and she tested it against the sample they took from five or ELISA.

  • He was not biologically related to Lisa.

  • Larry Banner is not Lisa's father.

  • Curtis Kimble was not Lisa's father.

  • Gordon Jensen Gerald Ma Qimin.

  • There wasn't her father.

  • Maybe Lisa's not Lisa.

  • Once Roxanne's saw the results of the paternity test, she called the San Bernardino Sheriff's Office.

  • They had handled Lisa's case 17 years ago, and she was about to drop shocking news on here.

  • I am years, years later, showing up on going, Hey, you have ah found Jane Doe.

  • I believe initially they were like we don't have a case like that, and I'm like, Yeah, you D'oh!

  • Roxanne basically tells them you have a missing person on unidentified victim who was alive, who still has a family out there to meet.

  • It just made me determined to do everything that I could possibly do to try to find out who she waas.

  • In 2003 when the San Bernardino Sheriff's Department opened a new investigation aimed at finding her true identity, Lisa was 22 years old.

  • I called Lisa and talked to her.

  • She really wanted to know who she waas.

  • By this time, Lise is an adult.

  • She had grown up.

  • So this rocks her world even more.

  • Lisa learns that her father is not her father.

  • She still has no idea where her mother is.

  • She didn't even know what her given birth name may have been with the realization that he was not Lisa's father.

  • Way started investigating who she waas where he took her from me.

  • So then the mystery becomes whose daughter is she and and who is her mother?

  • And where is her mother?

  • Because we know this guy kills people.

  • We might be dealing not just with someone that killed one person, but we're dealing with a serial killer.

  • That was the genesis of the investigation that would ultimately lead back New Hampshire into their break.

  • State Park police have still not identified the bodies of one woman and three young girls found in 1985 and 2000 in metal drums.

  • In my Judeo Christian heritage, there's the sentiment around murder that the blood of the innocent will call out from the ground to God.

  • And it's going to find justice because its DNA is going to point at perfect traitors on How amazing is it that it was blood of the innocents?

  • It was blood of little Lisa would go on to solve this mystery.

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