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  • Welcome back to M and F retro Good evening.

  • If you're just joining us for the first time, hoping the word is spreading that we are showing you some football this evening on sky sports.

  • Okay, it's not like we've dipped into the archive, but some great games.

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  • And you can put your questions tonight to Gary Neville on Dhe Jamie Carragher.

  • Those tweets are pouring in already.

  • Daryn Judge Physical Those black football boots on show, Daniel Winter says.

  • Goose bumps watching MNF retro on seeing Paducah score those goals, how much he misses football.

  • I think that's the view expressed by a lot of people who are joining us this evening.

  • So we have just seen Leeds United beat Liverpool by four goals to three great comeback from November 2000 and Jamie, playing in that game, give us some of your initial thoughts just watching that the kind of emotions it must have stood in you watching it back.

  • Well, I said at the top of the shoulder it was a big rival between ourselves in Leeds trying to overtake United, saintly join them.

  • The thing I find what should not is compared with that sort of the games we've been analyzing the last few years that the technical quality, the abortionists of that game, not a Golden Cross.

  • Just she is completely different, replete with that lead.

  • Seeing both going to leave was it was talk, wasn't it, then were really aggressive.

  • There's an aggressive team.

  • All young, energetic players was talk cause me.

  • Yeah, I think you were particularly.

  • We went to play in legal.

  • It was the same for you.

  • It was brutal, probably more brutal.

  • And Liverpool, in some ways the rival between Liverpool United shoes.

  • But Liverpool, The leads months United was like a A deep a trip.

  • There's a little bit of respect between Look, just just a little bit with lead.

  • It just felt like there was a real nasty notes, like a real They would come on the pitch if he called you.

  • He was that type of feeling and you felt the players at the time to be fair, you know, going to speak to one of them in a minute.

  • Who represented that sort of, you know, You think David Batty in Who played for the A bit early in that and then you had Lee Boya plays.

  • You saw about that sort of tenacity in that ever a narc iness about them, and I think that's how it always felt when we went there.

  • But in terms, the ability of the teams, I mean, it's strapped strikes when we played in this area here, the technical ability that players now in the football, the coach is asking the players to play now is so much better.

  • I mean, 1st 5 goals in that game crosses nothing against crosses.

  • You think about the intricate play we see now the technical ability, everyone taking the ball.

  • And do you think the technical ability is better now alone the way it is now?

  • Ask the place slightly differently with this manages the except it was clear in the ball down the line with us.

  • Now they will know that the board you have to play it almost.

  • Maybe I think what we were playing and we cleared the ball down the line and you're never gonna say, Don't do that.

  • I don't mean it.

  • If he manages different now as well If I got the balls a fullback in the first part of game Old Trafford and didn't put it down the line, it was you didn't put it on the line.

  • It's good ball.

  • Get in behind them.

  • I mean, that was That was literally what?

  • You know what we were told.

  • But turn them early on, make sure they faced on playing their half.

  • I just don't think that that's the game nowadays and you look so I don't see many channel balls nowadays.

  • The idea of a managed to city or Liverpool fullback, the two best teams in the country that won't play long balls down the channel for a striker really now very rarely happens and I think it is about the game change and it's it's just developed incredibly thing in the last few years with pap, your clock, part 13 over the cultures that we've had, it's changed dramatically.

  • I mean team that played in that area, which was it was a basic football team and you want us to play intricate play food would feel weird, you know what I mean?

  • I think a lot of seems ourselves included.

  • Maybe yourselves and an Arsenal slightly different quality, different players.

  • I think we was very much a 442 Wasn't too much.

  • Players get into pockets and don't even think people knew what a pocket was that whatever it waas.

  • But I think I think we're actually looking at Leeds in this, Do you?

  • Do you think that leads seem wounded, achieved or actually achieve what it WAAS was?

  • Because sometimes I'll be I'll be honest with Yet that season, Woody, we won three troll Teepees.

  • There's no difference between us and lead to finish 11 position above the book.

  • Leads are always remember.

  • There's a team nearly one on to the semi final of the Champions League on Dhe.

  • Even though we won trophies, it's almost sort of this.

  • Next.

  • I would feel a little bit for the players on General.

  • Julian probably doesn't get credit Lee for that season.

  • Really, when you think of who was going up against Syria, but that that leaves seem should have achieved more, I think that lead see, probably he looked at the modern equivalent is probably top of the last of the last few years.

  • The Taliban team last few years we've loved but it hasn't gone on to do what it should have done.

  • Maybe she'd want a Premier League the year that last one.

  • That should have maybe one a champion.

  • Lee, further bit more.

  • Look, But you think about this top team is now coming to an end or has come to her then about my new cash is, well, the key.

  • Yeah.

  • You think you can catch your eye But he never went on to do it.

  • Didn't have this something missing something missing that didn't quite have that ability to go on.

  • When I think the thing that Liverpool has always had going for it and I think all the clubs that are still the same months united when you've got built that history you go win troll because the mentality is in the club to intro for leads.

  • To be fair in that here, we're trying to build that mentality again.

  • Do you think that's something in in what quality always says noble actually man city in the Champions League.

  • And I think sometimes he says it, it gets people don't really understand.

  • What he means by that is, if we're not one of the becomes available history We haven't got this thing behind.

  • People say What does it mean?

  • But But I believe that when we play for Liverpool its way into five, we were probably in the top 10 teams in your cozy in Liverpool.

  • You have this belief that you are supposed to be, Oh, you can do this and I think that's what it means.

  • But I think it's I think, that it takes a lot to shake that off.

  • I think if you've got an inbuilt success in the club, I think Papazian stole that.

  • Now it says to the other winning trophies to getting this season a couple of weeks.

  • A few weeks ago, there was a troll for I think it to turn into a club from, um in a losing mentality into a winning mentality.

  • Takes level.

  • Once you get a club doing that leads, you felt we get nearer, nearer, just like you thought talked them would get in there and there but just didn't quite get there.

  • And then you think, Well, how are we gonna get back and leads?

  • I always felt was a huge club when we were playing against them.

  • Always felt was a big club.

  • People say, What's a big club?

  • I was Leeds United.

  • We want them back.

  • Yeah, absolutely.

  • Because just the feeling when you gonna play football there's unbelievable.

  • It is different.

  • It's a different place to play football.

  • Can I ask you about it?

  • I totally agree with the technical side of the game.

  • Would you actually miss Kate?

  • Things like that.

  • But it's just it is that sort of, I think, sometimes feeling in the family, with a lot of teams trying to play the same way.

  • I love the way the game go on technical.

  • I'm rightly so, but sometimes it isn't something about a game like that.

  • Ridge End and both teams actually gone for the hammer and tongs.

  • Both ends is noted that sitting back, we do see some games that nowadays I don't think we think we do.

  • But we do see some games lab.

  • I know what you mean.

  • Where is a little bit.

  • It's like it's almost like carnage in some way.

  • There's no way she's actually, there's no possession, There's no shape, everything, but he seems to be everywhere.

  • The cycles go in, the referees letting it flow and they are the best games in football and you would see that.

  • I mean, looking at Mark Viduka there who I think would grace the family today if he was playing.

  • He's such a great player, technically, was brilliant.

  • It's hold up play almost to get ahead of his time in terms of the way in which he played the game.

  • He would have enjoyed a lot more today than he would have done back then.

  • When he was probably getting booted, he was probably getting was going to pick up there.

  • Yeah, there's some interesting defending in that game.

  • Let me just interrupt with a couple of tweets guys.

  • Sam Johnson is asked to you, Do you want leads back in the primary?

  • Both of you?

  • I think you both answer that because of the atmosphere and the kind of fervor around Ellen Road, someone else wanted to say that the new could Ian here.

  • Viduka doesn't get enough credit again.

  • I think you've addressed that was what was he like to actually play against Jamie and we saw a lot of the time there you were backing off towards your own goal.

  • It was kind of play that made you do that?

  • Yes, to be fair, if I was fooled by Helen.

  • Come up against what the Duke awas is.

  • Even that type of thing, the seating players who physically you can't cope with them is a pleasure.

  • You have to insulate play against them a different way.

  • So the dude who was always someone who came to the ball to receive the ball, wasn't it to his feet.

  • And then it's going to be back in 10 years, probably very much like my Hughes and some ways for Manchester United.

  • So you would never, ever gonna get in front of him.

  • You're never gonna know.

  • Come off the balls exactly.

  • Gonna hold the ball up, make sure you don't tend.

  • Do you know?

  • Really?

  • Sure you want to run away from you on?

  • Then it was about making people making runs in behind Lee Bowyer, especially.

  • How did Q maybe Island Smith.

  • Robbie Keane will be found a common later also.

  • So he did have that ability, but it was always you couldn't stop.

  • The do could do more.

  • He wanted to do, which was basically hold the ball and get his team.

  • I think when we played against my Duke.

  • We always used to put somebody in front of it because he very rarely wanted to room the channels and run out.

  • Why there, Matson, You would never do it.

  • But if you put something in front of him, you brought the ball into his feet.

  • You actually took away a lot of game, which was one trying to roll you in turn if he got close to gold.

  • But even he's holed up way.

  • You could get near him so I could get around him on the ball, get played into you.

  • Just barred you off with a stick, his backside into you.

  • And I think that we tried to get players in front of him.

  • I make him run that way, and then you'd always have a chance with him.

  • And I think that's something we always you know, the box.

  • When we were a team talks against him, he was issued a respectful of Mark Viduka.

  • You know one thing that Sir Alex used to do before any any game you would attend to the big players in the opposition team, and he would say you need to attend to him and he would give you the deceased with me, it is a 10 year you said exploit you nothing in terms of sort of someone like Viduka.

  • I even remember Tim Kale when he played Everton.

  • You would talk for maybe a minute or two about what you have to do to attend to that place.

  • And if you don't stop this player, you like problems.

  • Today they would make it quite clear is quite simple instructions.

  • But it would be on whoever the center back, what's photos on that day or whether it be the midfield player after getting front and play in front of him.

  • That was your job and it was the Duke was a play that needed attention on.

  • I think that my view of the nuclear issue could have played for any team in Europe at that time.

  • I think he was one of the best center forwards in Europe.

  • I think he was capable of playing in a technical team capable playing along bold, seem capable, played any type of scene but in terms of your liver pill T.

  • I mean, when you went to when you went to lead yourselves, was it as hostiles?

  • It was for us at Manchester United.

  • Or was it a little bit?

  • So it was a little bit nicer because they're No, actually, it was this hostel where I think we both realized we were pretty soon.

  • We're both at the same jobs to try and almost this young open currency.

  • David, Ladies, come in.

  • Janet, Who is coming?

  • Andi was almost come.

  • We I think along with probably pretty challenging at that time.

  • We just start again.

  • Going a bit younger.

  • Maybe.

  • Frank Lampard.

  • John Tandy.

  • Common in book.

  • We have to talk to Sign E mean, General Julia moved Lee Bowyer adored me with some of the soldiers speak to meetings about how good lead, but it was actually tried to sign on as a 7 44 was probably fell through at that time.

  • I mean, it was a massive final.

  • We've got him joined shortly.

  • Now what say?

  • But he was He was He was a massive part of that reading, that sort of energy and drive from its available.

  • We had some great gains.

  • Anything Event should have to ask.

  • A couple of years, we just We just gotta wait for a shelter.

  • Just left lead behind.

  • Really beat him times in the corporate world.

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