Now everybody runs around with costumes with long here, no one can virtually way or anything.

But this wasn't so until somewhere.

The middle late sixties.

I at one point was teaching in Berkeley, and people came to class in loincloths on.

That was appropriate at the whole business of men wearing much longer here sandals.

All of that came in.

So there was a dramatic change in the way people appeared.

And look, there was a very different way of talking.

Of course, no, some of it became very, very quickly.

Some sort of didn't know deteriorated towards the volume that the more four letter words you could use, especially in class Visa VI a teacher, the more left you clearly had managed to yourself too.

Uh, I think as far as teaching goes, you would have to say it was good and bad.

It was both know it was good in the sense that boy know that sense off.

Don't horse around with us now.

Don't just talk about things that don't matter.

You better deliver.

There was a sense off.

We want something from you.

We're here and we're not here to waste our time, and this is totally different from now.

Now you have the feeling that they are docile.

They are cowed.

They're willing to put up with absolutely everything.

No matter what you would say to them, they will faithfully write it down on their notes and reproduce it.

None of that was in the sixties.

On the other side, there was this impatience now also had its obvious.

Now it's easy to think out sort of negative effects that if you wanted to say, Now, wait, wait, wait.

I mean, this will take a little time.

It'll pay off.

But give me some time to explain how this really has to be understood.

And I'll need a little time to lay foundations.

They're difficult to do and in general.

So if there was a sense of been cried literally that people didn't want to have any structure and this went to the extent of saying, Let's abolish a schedule.

Let's meet whenever we want to meet now.

No, no preordained time.

Let's abolish teachers.

Anybody can get out coupons to get up who has something to say, and people were quite serious about this.

And in fact, to my mind, this was such a such a grotesque misunderstanding of what freedom meant.

And still, that's what freedom did mean to everybody.

That that's prompted me to write the book about freedom.

You have to look at this from both sides.

That, uh, yes.

Now, Clearly, there were some things that probably they didn't learn because they didn't have the patience for But no.

If you insist on the comparison right now, the whole country is belly aching and vining about the fact that we don't have enough imagination.

We don't have enough initiative.

We don't have people who have any, get up and go.

We don't have people who are dedicated to things.

Everybody sort of just quickly wants to get a safe little career and stash away something interest and have done with it.

Well, that was different in the sixties.

Now what they look Or did they assimilated?

Boy did it moon something.

And there was a sense of really acquiring knowledge.

You know, if you talked, for example, I I At the time I was teaching Camus, I was teaching sack.

I was teaching about freedom.

I was teaching nature I was teaching political philosophy Well, it wasn't had, really not that much to do with with my teaching.

But you couldn't get into the class now because people wanted that stuff.

And maybe a good example with is how people reacted to literature.

I mean to teach literature now, and I do.

Some of it is a pale, not a pale, miserable shore compared to what it was like to teach literature there.

Because when people at that point red, yes, sir, or even Hemingway or Faulkner or whatever they read, they related it to their own experience.

And now they went to fire.

Sometimes they took it and they lived it out.

Now they read something, and the next day they acted as if they were character in history, and that was gorgeous in one way.

But of course, if you wanted to teach something that they weren't interested in, they had wax in their ears.