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  • I I watch a lot of football on eye on him there for aesthetic reasons.

  • Um, I like to just watch the drama as it unfolds that there's always a human story to be found in every game, so I tend to just pick games completely at random.

  • I quite like seeing teams I've never heard off.

  • I've never bean to their town or village before just to get an experience of what's going on on the drama that could be found.

  • Then, as the afternoon unfolds, I love it when all these little subplots come to the fall, see what's going on.

  • See if there is a dramatic end to the game.

  • You know that the tension convey build through the game as, ah, full time approaches you seeing who's gonna win, who's going to lose.

  • I like plenty of drama in it, but of course I don't mind which team supplies the victory.

  • I spent many years as a parties.

  • I'm following ah, largely unsuccessful lower division team.

  • Well, it was Sheffield United, a team that's had more than its fair share of misery on it continues to this day.

  • So we we had ah Farmall defeats and victories.

  • But what I found is, Ah, parties on is that while you could appreciate the good play the beauty, you could appreciate the aesthetics off your own team.

  • You weren't in a position to take that same kind of enjoyment from the other team.

  • Okay, so it seemed that only half of the aesthetics of sport were accessible to you as a party zone.

  • Now, looking back now, as I've matured and become more of a purist, I think back some of the games I saw where we lost the game in the last minute.

  • And I think that was a really dramatic game at the time.

  • I couldn't appreciate that at all.

  • You know, for Maia defeat Waas catastrophe A lot of people think that the purest is missing out on something by not supporting the team.

  • Okay, so that there is this discussion in the journals in philosophy of spot on.

  • One idea is that the party's on.

  • They feel such intense joy when the team wins that the purest is missing out on what spots all about.

  • Sport is all about competition, and at the end of it, there's a winner.

  • There's also a loser.

  • Here's what I would say in response to that, I drawn a distinction that John Stuart Mill makes between Higher and lower pleasures.

  • Mill gets a lot of criticism, and there's a lot of discussion about, um, and just really can you defend this distinction?

  • But here's a case where I think you might be ableto so.

  • The party's on doors have a very intense joy when the team's goes ago are at the end of the game.

  • They're the winners, but I don't argue that it's a rather shallow joy.

  • Because victory doesn't last long.

  • There's always the next contest to come toe.

  • Okay, where is the purest?

  • Although they may be comma, they could be taking a deeper, more satisfying pleasure from sport.

  • I'm not trying to suggest that we shouldn't have any joy in life or intense moments of satisfaction.

  • There are all sorts of reasons why you might feel that kind of intense joy, but I feel that the purest way of watching spot hasn't been given a fair hearing on some People think it's just insane that anyone would bother going to what spot when they had no interest in who won't.

  • So I'm just trying to make the case for it is a reasonable way to what spot where there is a concentration on the aesthetics.

  • I think we have to distinguish between the support of the party's on on, then just observer who forms of you about who deserves to win.

  • Okay, So if he takes an example of the last World Cup final between Spain and Holland, Um, I was one of those people who went into the game slightly rooting for Holland because I remember the cry fear in the seventies.

  • They were a great team.

  • They never quite won the World Cup.

  • They came very close and I thought, Yeah, Holland really deserves this victory.

  • Once the game started, I saw the way in which, uh, Holland were playing the game on the way in which Spain will play in the game.

  • Along with, I think, almost everybody else other than those who don't live in the Netherlands.

  • I thought, you know, they don't deserve to win this game.

  • They're not playing in the right way.

  • So yeah, I formed a view about who deserved to win what would be a just result.

  • And so I was pleased to see the the team playing football in the right way ended up winning it.

  • But I don't think that that counted as support or parties on ship, the support of someone, I think who stands by their team no matter how they're playing, you know it's it's a kind of longer term loyalty.

  • So the very next time Spain play Holland, it might be the Holland play.

  • All the good football again on Spain play dirty.

  • It's hard to imagine now because that's such a good team.

  • But if that were to be the case, then I would immediately form the view that island deserve to win that particular gang.

I I watch a lot of football on eye on him there for aesthetic reasons.

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